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Speaker 1: A comprehensive plan has been put together by the Darwin

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Speaker 1: It is all in collaboration with Stadiums North Australia and

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Speaker 1: Larochie Development Corporation. Now joining us on the line to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about this is AFL and

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Speaker 1: T chairman Sean Bowden. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Sean, Yeah, good morning Cody. Thanks for having me Alligan.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on the show. Now, firstly, why

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, the stadium of course, people will be aware

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Speaker 2: that we're working towards positioning ourselves an opportunity to have

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Speaker 2: twentieth license become available, and we think that license will

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Speaker 2: become available at some point and the work we've done,

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Speaker 2: we've set a seven to ten year plan, a trajectory

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Speaker 2: So we hope to be positioned for the twentieth and

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Speaker 2: we've done the work and we've got a reasonable idea

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Speaker 1: Are that plan that has been released Obviously, it outlines

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that's for the people of Darwin and

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Speaker 2: So when I'm just talking about a standalone stadium, where

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Speaker 2: that would be a tremendous iconic site. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: Like if the traditional owners don't want a hotel there,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So I'm just trying to wrap my head

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Speaker 2: There's two things to it. One is nine and teams.

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Speaker 2: if it gets that AFL team bring you also bring

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Speaker 2: Collinwood won't be able to duck us Cody, no one

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Speaker 1: To come, No one will be able to get away

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the AFL in T website's got the plan up there,

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Speaker 2: it's got the master plans for the Darwin sites. It's

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Speaker 2: also got the strategic business case up there, and it's

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Speaker 2: got a form that can be filled out. And I

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Speaker 2: believe the INT News ran that as well on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So those links will be with the INT News and

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Speaker 2: they'll be on the INT website. And if people are

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Speaker 2: having difficulty, maybe contact contact the al And office and

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Speaker 2: we'll make sure that we put it in a place

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Speaker 2: where it's easy to access. But we really do look

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Speaker 2: for that feedback. We've been talking to a lot of

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Speaker 2: the major stakeholders, but it's really for the public to

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Speaker 2: tell us as well what they think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think it's a really good opportunity

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Speaker 1: for people to have their say. Sean Bouten, af l

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Speaker 1: NT Chairman, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a good again for the chance to chat Katy.

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Speaker 1: No worries at all, thank you,