WEBVTT - Who will Kamala Harris choose as her VP?

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily OS. It is Friday, the second of August.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm billy, I'm Zara. We are now less than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred days out from the US election in November, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is nearly time for Kamala Harris to pick her

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<v Speaker 1>vice presidential candidate. We are expecting an announcement any day now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so today we wanted to go through who some

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<v Speaker 1>of the top contenders are. What exactly is Harris looking

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<v Speaker 1>for and what kind of difference to her campaign is

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<v Speaker 1>she hoping a vice presidential pick could make. In today's

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<v Speaker 1>deep Dive, we are going to tell you what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know. But first, Sarah, what is making headlines today?

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi has reiterated calls for a de

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<v Speaker 2>escalation of conflict in the Middle East, as tensions between

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and her Bo and Israel and Humas continued to

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<v Speaker 2>mount following a series of recent attacks in the region.

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<v Speaker 2>Albanesi said the government wants to see a ceasefire in

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza and the release of hostages taken by Hummas. On

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh of October, speaking at an event in Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, the PM also said he wants to see

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<v Speaker 2>quote a plan for peace and security in the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East where both Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace

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<v Speaker 2>and security with prosperity. Albanesi reiterated calls from Foreign Affairs

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Penny Wong for Australians not to travel to Lebanon

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<v Speaker 2>and for those in Lebanon to return home as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Two Victorian men have been charged over an illegal betting

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<v Speaker 1>scandal tied to the Australian of the Year awards. According

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<v Speaker 1>to police, a federal public servant shared confidential information about

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen award winners

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<v Speaker 1>with an outside source. A thirty eight year old man

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<v Speaker 1>placed bets on the ceremonies before receiving a thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars payout. A thirty nine year old man has been

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<v Speaker 1>charged with abusing his role in public office, while the

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<v Speaker 1>other man has been charged over encouraging criminal acts. Each

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<v Speaker 1>face five years imprisonment.

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<v Speaker 2>Violent far right protests have erupted in England's Northwest after

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<v Speaker 2>a stabbing attack on a children's dance class. A seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>year old boy has been charged with murder and attempted

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<v Speaker 2>murder after three children were killed and several others were injured.

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<v Speaker 2>A mosque in Southport has been targeted during this escalating violence,

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<v Speaker 2>which authorities have blamed on misinformation surrounding the attacker's identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Local police believe the unrest has been led by supporters

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<v Speaker 2>of the English Defense League, a far right Islamophobic group.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's good news, Australian babies with pean art allergies

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<v Speaker 1>will be included in a world first treatment initiative. The

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<v Speaker 1>program aims to safely build patient's tolerance by gradually exposing

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<v Speaker 1>them to small traces of peaan arts. Over two years.

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<v Speaker 1>About three in every one hundred Australian children are a

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<v Speaker 1>lerge to peanuts. The new government funded treatment will be

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<v Speaker 1>available in ten children's hospitals across Australia. Professor Kirsten Perrot

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<v Speaker 1>from the National Allergy Center of Excellence says the program

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<v Speaker 1>will help quote change the trajectory of peanut allergies so

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<v Speaker 1>that quote more children can go to school without the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of a life threatening reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>So Billy I wanted to start quite broad my first

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<v Speaker 2>question what will Kamala Harris be looking for in her

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<v Speaker 2>vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are two main things that experts are

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<v Speaker 1>saying Harris will really want for her vice presidential pick,

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously she knows a lot about this because she

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<v Speaker 1>is currently the vices. She has a unique So the

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<v Speaker 1>first will be for her vice presidential pick to be

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<v Speaker 1>from a battleground state or also known as a swing state.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is basically just any state in the US

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<v Speaker 1>that could be won by either the Democratic or the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican candidate each election. So if we look at history,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's either been Democrat or Republican. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been safe. And there are states that we call safe states.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, California is known as a safe state. They

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<v Speaker 1>are a pretty solid Democratic.

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<v Speaker 2>State where Harris is from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so at the national level they for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time now have voted Democrat. But then there are also

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<v Speaker 1>swing states where each election it really could go either way,

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<v Speaker 1>either Republican or Democratic. So some of the key ones

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<v Speaker 1>this year are Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania is a really

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<v Speaker 1>key one, and Wisconsin. And so those are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the states where Harris and Trump will be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of campaigning in the lead up to the election.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the first thing that she will be looking

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<v Speaker 1>for someone who is popular in one of those key

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<v Speaker 1>swing states. The second thing that I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reporting on is that Harris might be looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a vice president who can quote unquote balance is the

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<v Speaker 1>word that a lot of reporting has been using to

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<v Speaker 1>balance the voting paper. We know, if Kamala Harris becomes president,

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<v Speaker 1>she would be the first Black American woman and the

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<v Speaker 1>first South Asian American to be elected president. And what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of commentators are saying is that to possibly

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to more conservative voters. You know, there obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>always been a big topic that we have never had

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<v Speaker 1>a female president in the US, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>commentators have said that the US wasn't ready for a

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<v Speaker 1>woman in twenty sixteen. So again, what a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>commentators are saying now is that to appeal to more

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<v Speaker 1>conservative voters, Kamala Harris will possibly pick a white man

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<v Speaker 1>to again quote unquote balance that ticket. Another way that

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<v Speaker 1>it can be interpreted is that there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of criticism from Trump, in particular calling Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>a radical and saying that she is way too left

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<v Speaker 1>for the country. Obviously she disagrees with that, but she

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<v Speaker 1>might consider picking a vice presidential candidate who is more

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<v Speaker 1>moderate than her to appeal to swing voters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people who aren't tied to a party and aren't yet

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<v Speaker 1>sure which way they will vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the fact that she was Joe Biden's vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>still is Joe Biden's vice president. It's almost what she

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<v Speaker 2>did for him. Yeah, he was a white man who

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<v Speaker 2>was deemed to be this kind of moderate Democrat, and

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<v Speaker 2>he brought on Kamala Harris, who was a black woman

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<v Speaker 2>who appealed to again, that left voter base. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting now that she's doing exactly the same thing exactly

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<v Speaker 2>for her VP. So on that topic, who are the

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<v Speaker 2>strong contenders that might be in the running for VP here?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd say that there are three main top contenders

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<v Speaker 1>that are being thrown around, and all of them are

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<v Speaker 1>no surprise men.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go through each of those.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first one is Mark Kelly, who is an

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Senator. And remember Arizona is one of those key

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<v Speaker 1>swing states that I mentioned before Tick there, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they were actually one of the key states that

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<v Speaker 1>helped Biden win in twenty twenty. Now, a few things

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<v Speaker 1>to know about Mark Kelly. Fun fact, he's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>former astronaut for Nasal. He's been too space.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there you go, but it's not fun fact.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll get to the politics. So he is particularly

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<v Speaker 1>strong on campaigning for stricter gun control, and that comes

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<v Speaker 1>after his wife, who is a fellow politician but who

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<v Speaker 1>is now retired. Her name is Gabby Giffords. She survived

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<v Speaker 1>an assassination attempt in twenty eleven. Now he is seen

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<v Speaker 1>as a moderate, which, as we said before, is possibly

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<v Speaker 1>what she could be looking for. He has a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a reputation for working across the aisle on policies,

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<v Speaker 1>so working with Republicans on some policies. He's also particularly

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<v Speaker 1>strong on immigration. He believes that Democrats should adopt a

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<v Speaker 1>tougher stance on border issues, which we know is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the key issues in this election that Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>been really attacking Democrats on. He's especially strong on this

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<v Speaker 1>because Arizona has a border with Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's Mark Kelly. Who else are we looking

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<v Speaker 2>at here?

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<v Speaker 1>The next one is Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz. He has

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<v Speaker 1>been the governor of Minnesota since twenty nineteen. Now, Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>isn't really considered a swing state. In fact, the last

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<v Speaker 1>Republican who win Minnesota was Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>But importantly, it is somewhat considered to still be competitive

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<v Speaker 1>and somewhat of a swing state because Trump is saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he plans, In fact, he says that he promises

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<v Speaker 1>to win Minnesota, and he has still been visiting the

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<v Speaker 1>state for campaign, so there's definitely still some competition there.

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<v Speaker 1>And one other thing to note about Waltz is that

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<v Speaker 1>he has gained a lot of attention recently after he

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<v Speaker 1>called Trump and JD. Vance quote unquote weird.

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<v Speaker 2>These are weird people on the other side. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to take books away, they want to be in your

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<v Speaker 2>exam room.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it comes down to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you get sugar coating this.

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<v Speaker 1>These are weird ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I love politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you might have heard this around because it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of this new strategy that a lot of Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>adopting of calling Trump and Vance weird, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>created this shift in how the Democrats are talking about them.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to give you an example of this shift,

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton, who was then the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic candidate, she used the word to play horrible a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to describe Trump. Obviously, we know that that didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there's this shift to now just calling them

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<v Speaker 1>simply weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It is almost Trumpian, like that's what Donald Trump does.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls them one word and like fixates on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the Democrats are using that in their own campaigning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they're really using it a lot. A number

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<v Speaker 1>of high profile Democrats have been adopting the language, including

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. One other thing to note about Wolves is

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<v Speaker 1>that he was the governor of Minnesota at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the murder of George Floyd by police in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>and Wolls has been criticized quite a bit for his

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<v Speaker 1>response to the protests that occurred after that murder, and

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<v Speaker 1>there has been criticism that he didn't do enough to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the damage that followed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting, and so we've got these two men

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Who is the third contender.

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<v Speaker 1>The third is the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania is one of the really, really important swing states.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an absolute must win. When election day rolls around,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be hearing about Pennsylvania a lot. So Josh Shapiro.

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<v Speaker 1>He rose to prominence when he beat his Republican opponent

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<v Speaker 1>by a significant margin in twenty twenty two in the

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<v Speaker 1>race for governor. I saw this so much when I

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<v Speaker 1>was researching this. He's often praised for overseeing a quick

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<v Speaker 1>repair of a bridge that collapsed last year, and just

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<v Speaker 1>generally he has really quite relatively strong approval ratings in Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>which again is a must win for Harris this election.

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<v Speaker 1>If Harris does pick Shapiro and then they go on

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<v Speaker 1>to win in November, he would be the first Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>vice president of the US. And I'll also add that

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<v Speaker 1>he has voiced strong support for Israel in the war

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any other names being mentioned or is it

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<v Speaker 2>just the three that you've spoken about?

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<v Speaker 1>No, there are so many other options. Also, this week

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<v Speaker 1>we've had two high profile candidates dropping out. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many names going around in this podcast, so I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go through them, but just two others to quickly

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<v Speaker 1>mention as Kentucky governor and I Bishiah. Now Kentucky is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a pretty safe Republican state, so the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a Democratic governor has always been seen as quite

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<v Speaker 1>impressive and potentially something that Kamala Harris might be attracted to.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also Pete Boudagitch, who is currently the

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Transportation under the Biden administration, so he has

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Kamala Harris in that role. He's quite often

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<v Speaker 1>seen as one of the most effective communicators from the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been everywhere, like they have really wheeled him

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<v Speaker 2>out in the last couple of days and he's been everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, he's really doing the media rounds at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>If he is picked, he would be the first openly

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<v Speaker 1>gay person to be nominated for vice president. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole list of other potential ones. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say those are the five of the current front runners,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure, no matter what, we will likely be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing those names come up as future Democratic presidential candidates

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<v Speaker 1>in either twenty twenty eight or twenty thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this is always a really interesting process.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, it identifies who the up and coming

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<v Speaker 2>stars are and from here it's hard to tell, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to kind of get that straight from the sows.

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<v Speaker 2>When are we expecting to hear from Harris about who

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<v Speaker 2>she'll pick.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it will be in the next few days.

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<v Speaker 1>So Harris's campaign has told media outlets that her first

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<v Speaker 1>rally with whoever the new vice presidential nominee will be

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<v Speaker 1>will be next Tuesday. So she's planning to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a rally with the vice presidential pick on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll be quite soon, Okay, And just quickly before

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<v Speaker 2>we go, Billy, the last time we did an episode

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<v Speaker 2>on the US was just when Biden had dropped out.

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<v Speaker 2>So much has happened since then. A day is like

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<v Speaker 2>a year in US politics. Can you give us a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of what else has happened with Kamala Harris's campaign

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<v Speaker 2>since that last episode we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think at the time of that episode being recorded,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even certain yet if Kamala Harris would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>be the Democratic nominee. Now it definitely is certain. She

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely gained enough support and there's been this significant

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<v Speaker 1>shift in you know, the Democratic Party really uniting and

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<v Speaker 1>getting around her. She has actually raised two hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the week since she became the Democratic presidential candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is more than Biden raised in the first

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<v Speaker 1>three months of the year, So you compare one week

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<v Speaker 1>to three months, that really gives you an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>just this shift that we've seen. And she's also signed

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<v Speaker 1>up one hundred and seventy thousand new volunteers for her campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's been quite positive for her. The campaign has, though,

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<v Speaker 1>as we have likely expected, it has become quite ugly. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump questioned Kamala Harris's racial identity while speaking at a

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<v Speaker 1>convention for black journalists. He basically said that she has

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<v Speaker 1>only become a black person recently.

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<v Speaker 3>She was always of Indian heritage and she was only

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<v Speaker 3>promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until

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<v Speaker 3>a number of years ago when she happened to turn black,

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<v Speaker 3>and now she wants to be known as black. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know is she Indian or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she black?

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<v Speaker 1>She has always.

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<v Speaker 3>Black college either one, but she obviously doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to be clear, Harris's mother was born in India

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<v Speaker 1>and her father was born in Jamaica, and her official

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<v Speaker 1>White House profile says she's the first Black American and

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<v Speaker 1>the first South Asian American to be elected to the

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<v Speaker 1>position of vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>And just on the topic of Donald Trump, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>latest with him?

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<v Speaker 1>So Trump has continued his campaigning. He's obviously ramped up

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<v Speaker 1>his attacks on Kamala Harris since she became the Democratic candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we just heard, he has started questioning her

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<v Speaker 1>racial identity, which has been making a lot of headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>The polls, though, they show that Trump is still ahead

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<v Speaker 1>in this race. So the latest New York Times poll

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<v Speaker 1>shows that Trump leads Harris by one point, although she

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<v Speaker 1>has tightened the gap with Trump compared to when Biden

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<v Speaker 1>was the Democratic nominee, but Trump is still ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly one that we will be keeping a keen eye

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<v Speaker 2>on and can't wait to see who Kamala Harris pixes

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<v Speaker 2>her VP as we go through another twist and turn

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<v Speaker 2>of this election cycle. Now, before we go, we just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to shout out all the wonderful episodes that we

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<v Speaker 2>have covered this week on the Daily OS. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been quite an array of topics here. We've had a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive into tourism, but most importantly over tourism. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we had the latest on Hezbollah and Israel. We had

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<v Speaker 2>another episode on Rex the Airline that has gone into

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<v Speaker 2>voluntary administration. This week and yesterday we covered off on

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<v Speaker 2>the government's response to the Disability Royal Commission, with Harry

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<v Speaker 2>answering whether anything will change for Australians with disabilities. We

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<v Speaker 2>will throw all of those links in today's show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for supporting the Daily Oas. We hope you

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