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Speaker 1: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Daily OS. It is Friday, the second of August.

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Speaker 1: I'm billy, I'm Zara. We are now less than one

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Speaker 1: hundred days out from the US election in November, and

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Speaker 1: deep Dive, we are going to tell you what you

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Speaker 1: need to know. But first, Sarah, what is making headlines today?

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi has reiterated calls for a de

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Speaker 2: escalation of conflict in the Middle East, as tensions between

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Speaker 2: Violent far right protests have erupted in England's Northwest after

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Speaker 1: In today's good news, Australian babies with pean art allergies

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Speaker 2: So Billy I wanted to start quite broad my first

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Speaker 1: The next one is Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz. He has

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Speaker 1: Now, you might have heard this around because it's kind

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Speaker 1: If he is picked, he would be the first openly

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Speaker 1: there's a whole list of other potential ones. I would

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Speaker 2: I think that this is always a really interesting process.

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Speaker 2: it's good to kind of get that straight from the sows.

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Speaker 2: When are we expecting to hear from Harris about who

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Speaker 1: We know it will be in the next few days.

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Speaker 1: So Harris's campaign has told media outlets that her first

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Speaker 2: So it'll be quite soon, Okay, And just quickly before

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at the time of that episode being recorded,

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Speaker 1: as we have likely expected, it has become quite ugly. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Trump questioned Kamala Harris's racial identity while speaking at a

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Speaker 3: She was always of Indian heritage and she was only

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Speaker 3: I don't know is she Indian or.

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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, Harris's mother was born in India

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Speaker 1: So Trump has continued his campaigning. He's obviously ramped up

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Speaker 2: Certainly one that we will be keeping a keen eye

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