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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer and health coach,

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Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife, and dog mum. On the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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Speaker 2: Are you with me?

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Speaker 1: Your friends, Let's rise and conquer. Hi, guys, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of the Rise and Conker Podcast. Today

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Speaker 1: we are joined by guests Amy Shepherd. Amy is part

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Speaker 1: of the well known band Shepherd, but today we are

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Speaker 1: talking more than just her amazing music career. Amy unknowingly

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Speaker 1: her back on editing and showing the real Amy on

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Speaker 1: her social media accounts. She works hard and is proud

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Speaker 1: of her body. After years of filtering her image to

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Speaker 1: try and conform, Amy posted a raw, unedited and real

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Speaker 1: photo to Instagram in January. By doing so, she unknowingly

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Speaker 1: ignited social media and began her call for fans to

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Speaker 1: unreal fantasy that lives on social media. In one post

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Speaker 1: after another, she started breaking down the stigma about women's

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Speaker 1: if you don't like it. She was quickly joined by

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Speaker 1: a cascade of support from women around the world. Today,

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Speaker 1: we chat about this movement and how it got started.

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Speaker 1: We chat about how any deals of trolls and why

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Speaker 1: now as a society we are craving real and raw

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Speaker 1: content opposed to filters and airbrush. This episode is a

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Speaker 1: must listen for body positivity and self love. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into it, Hi, Amy, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so we're going to get into heaps of

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Speaker 1: exciting and really important issues. But something I ask all

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Speaker 1: my guests is, as this is the Rise and Conquer podcast,

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Speaker 1: what is one thing, big or small that you are

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Speaker 1: rising up and conquering this week.

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Speaker 3: I've actually been asked to do a lot of public

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Speaker 3: this really terrifies me. I know that I speak on

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Speaker 3: So I'm actually I've been asked to do the Australian

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be an interesting learning curve. But I

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Speaker 3: just keep saying yes to these opportunities because it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, congratulations, that's an epic honor for

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Speaker 1: you to be doing that, And I kind of know

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Speaker 1: what you mean, like I'm the exact same, even though

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Speaker 1: you know I talk my podcast and I'm on Instagram

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Speaker 1: It's definitely overwhelming. But like you said, you keep doing

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Speaker 3: I am a member one one fifth now it used

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Speaker 3: is an Australian indie pop band. I actually am, I guess,

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Speaker 1: You definitely are. Do not understand yourself.

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to like describe yourself for like introduce

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Speaker 1: I don't own it. You are your epic and you

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Speaker 1: do so much more than that, which we're going to

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Speaker 1: What does the day in a life of a singer

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Speaker 1: Aline, I am much like your partner. I am so

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Speaker 1: And I love that this movement is happening, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I love that this is

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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely. The kiss my fat Ass movement. Even though

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm striving for now. I want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And so let's get into the

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Speaker 1: so the whole video. Guys, after this podcast, make sure

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Speaker 1: really want to congratulate you on doing that. Tell us

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just trying to figure out how I

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Speaker 3: And of course the only thing I know how to

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Speaker 3: Ass really quickly. In about a day it was done,

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Speaker 3: really easy to write. Obviously, I've got a lot of

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Speaker 3: were really super keen on it, and there was just

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: That night then and there we were having all these

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Speaker 3: I want to do almost like a spin off of

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Speaker 3: I felt really bad about myself when I watched it

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Speaker 3: bloodline video clip, I was like, oh, like that's what

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Speaker 3: perky tits walking around you know, these successful men like,

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Speaker 3: found all these women on or who we were just

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Speaker 3: like in my life, women who have inspired me along

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Speaker 3: cool chick. Okay, you've inspired me. Would you be in

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Speaker 3: this film clip? And I'm actually so surprised that I

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Speaker 3: actually got people to agree to walk around in their

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Speaker 3: underwear nude underwear with me publicly. But I'm so glad

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Speaker 3: ripple effect and I've seen the change in those girls

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Speaker 3: as well, and yeah, and then it affects the people

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Speaker 3: around there, and then it's just yeah, it's amazing to

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Speaker 3: see it was.

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Speaker 1: It was so cool. And I even noticed that Tiffany

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Speaker 1: Haare was in the video and so most people know

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Speaker 1: her from the Biggest Loser Australia. What made you want

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Speaker 1: to get other women to join the movement? In the video,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it like everyone felt quite exposed, like what

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Speaker 1: was that process?

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Speaker 3: Like, well, I just chose women who have inspired me,

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Speaker 3: as I said, but I did pick women who I

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Speaker 3: knew pushed themselves out of the barrier, you know, push

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Speaker 3: the barriers and push themselves out of the box and

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Speaker 3: say yes to things that are scary. So not everybody

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Speaker 3: said yes, but most of them did, which is nice.

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Speaker 3: And I asked Tiffany to be in the video because

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of her work in the way

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Speaker 3: that she does fitness, because she's she's just inspiring and

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Speaker 3: she's not you know, she's just like I watched her videos,

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Speaker 3: she's like, just put on your shoes and go for

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Speaker 3: a walk. If that's all you can manage to do today,

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Speaker 3: just do that, you know. And she's really wholesome in

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Speaker 3: the way she does things. She was very honest once

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Speaker 3: she had her baby, and she was very very honest

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Speaker 3: with her followers about that process. And you know, she

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Speaker 3: was saying that everybody wanted to bounce back photos and

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Speaker 3: everyone herd bounce back and how did you do it?

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Speaker 3: But she rejected that idea and she said no, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that because that would be

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Speaker 3: detrimental to myself but also to my baby who I'm breastfeeding,

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Speaker 3: So she kind of did her like ages before I

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Speaker 3: posted anything back. I felt as she was already doing

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Speaker 3: the body positivity stuff. So of course she was a

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Speaker 3: natural fit for me, and I did want a lot

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Speaker 3: of body types represented. I didn't want just all Kirby women.

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Speaker 2: I wanted people.

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Speaker 3: Who were fit, people who are skinny, different colors, different shapes.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Tiffany was definitely a natural choice for me.

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Speaker 1: You are just doing amazing things. Thank you so much, Amy,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time and talking about

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Speaker 1: these really important issues. Before we finished the podcast, I

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Speaker 1: do have a question that I asked all my guests,

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Speaker 1: and it's for a recommendation. So this can be anything

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Speaker 1: you can be reading it, watching, listening to it, just

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Speaker 1: something that you know would be beneficial for the audience.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you haven't seen Tarren brumfitz Embrace documentary, go

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Speaker 3: and see it right now. It's on iTunes and she

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Speaker 3: just puts everything that I've been feeling and thinking into

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Speaker 3: one place. She's got a book as well, but it's

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Speaker 3: similar to the documentary. So I really when I watched

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Speaker 3: the documentary, it just like hit me right in the field.

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Speaker 3: So if you haven't seen that, go and watch it.

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Speaker 1: Oh amazing, Sorry what was it called again?

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Speaker 3: It's called Embrace, So the Embrace documentary and it's by

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Speaker 3: Tarren Bromfitt.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. I'll make sure I put that in the show

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Speaker 1: notes too. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Amy.

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Speaker 1: Can you let the audience know where they can find you,

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Speaker 1: where they can follow you and all those good stuff,

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Speaker 1: So you can.

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Speaker 3: Find me on Instagram at Amy Shepherd Pie or Facebook,

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Speaker 3: you know all the usual places, and you can find

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Speaker 3: the band at we.

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Speaker 1: Are Shepherd Amazing. Thank you so much, Amy, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Georgie, thanks so much for listening into this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: If you love to Rise and Conquer and you're craving

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Speaker 1: more community, I have got you, girl friend. I was

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Speaker 1: feeling the exact same. So I'm very excited to announce

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Speaker 1: that we have made a close Rise and Conquer Facebook

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Speaker 1: and search Rise and Conquer podcast community, or head to

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Speaker 1: to ask for advice, and interact together. Lastly, if you

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Speaker 1: really appreciate all the support, and this is a total

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Speaker 1: independent podcast, so any sort of sharing involved I really

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Speaker 1: really appreciate. Also, if you want to go beyond this episode,

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Speaker 2: I hope you have.

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Speaker 1: An amazing day or night whenever you're listening, by for

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