1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:21,564 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. It's 4 00:00:21,604 --> 00:00:23,644 Speaker 2: time a man of cutting rum. 5 00:00:25,724 --> 00:00:28,884 Speaker 1: Everybody, it's time for a man gott. 6 00:00:30,324 --> 00:00:34,284 Speaker 2: It's the cuttin room on the cutting room floor today. 7 00:00:34,564 --> 00:00:36,324 Speaker 1: Do we have raccoons in Australia. 8 00:00:36,724 --> 00:00:38,004 Speaker 2: No, I don't think we do. 9 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:39,924 Speaker 1: What's our equivalent of possum? 10 00:00:40,804 --> 00:00:42,083 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd say to be a possum. 11 00:00:42,524 --> 00:00:45,964 Speaker 1: Well, this is an interesting story about raccoons in the States. 12 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:49,604 Speaker 1: Then a new study from the University of Arkansas Little Rock. 13 00:00:49,564 --> 00:00:53,204 Speaker 3: That's we got the Clinton that time of Baba well, 14 00:00:53,324 --> 00:00:57,164 Speaker 3: yes and missus Bubba Missus Bubba missus Clinton President and 15 00:00:57,884 --> 00:00:59,644 Speaker 3: Secretary of State, all of that. 16 00:01:00,364 --> 00:01:04,444 Speaker 1: But they found that urban raccoons have snouts that are 17 00:01:04,524 --> 00:01:08,124 Speaker 1: three point five percent shorter than rural ones. And what 18 00:01:08,283 --> 00:01:13,244 Speaker 1: this means is that this is signs of early domestication. 19 00:01:14,284 --> 00:01:19,523 Speaker 1: Research suggests that living around humans and relying on human trash, 20 00:01:19,604 --> 00:01:23,003 Speaker 1: this favors raccoons that are karma that are more tolerant 21 00:01:23,764 --> 00:01:28,283 Speaker 1: traits associated with tameness. So this also may relate to 22 00:01:28,404 --> 00:01:33,244 Speaker 1: neural crest domestification. Barbers with science words, sorry, what happens 23 00:01:33,284 --> 00:01:35,004 Speaker 1: is that. And I was talking you through what happened 24 00:01:35,044 --> 00:01:38,604 Speaker 1: with dogs when they were domesticated. The muzzles are shorter, 25 00:01:38,804 --> 00:01:42,164 Speaker 1: which is what we are seeing in these city raccoons right. 26 00:01:42,644 --> 00:01:45,724 Speaker 1: So when the animals, when dogs were domesticated, this is 27 00:01:45,764 --> 00:01:47,844 Speaker 1: the same thing that happened when they went from wolves 28 00:01:48,084 --> 00:01:52,444 Speaker 1: to being dogs. There were skull and facial changes, shorter 29 00:01:52,564 --> 00:01:56,764 Speaker 1: snouts because dogs wanted. If a dog is a lap dog, 30 00:01:56,804 --> 00:01:58,764 Speaker 1: and those dogs like Pickanese and things that are bred 31 00:01:58,844 --> 00:02:00,644 Speaker 1: to sit on your lap, they've been bred to have 32 00:02:00,724 --> 00:02:03,164 Speaker 1: much shorter snouts and big eyes so that they can 33 00:02:03,204 --> 00:02:04,724 Speaker 1: sit on your lap and look you in the face. 34 00:02:04,804 --> 00:02:07,084 Speaker 2: And you see more of more of them getting pushed 35 00:02:07,084 --> 00:02:09,164 Speaker 2: around in prams. Now, yeah, do you do you think 36 00:02:09,284 --> 00:02:12,444 Speaker 2: like saying one hundred years time or more would be 37 00:02:12,444 --> 00:02:14,923 Speaker 2: like a thousand years top. Well, these dogs being capable 38 00:02:14,964 --> 00:02:15,684 Speaker 2: of walking, now. 39 00:02:15,724 --> 00:02:18,043 Speaker 1: They're being pushed around in prams because they're elderly dogs. 40 00:02:18,244 --> 00:02:20,524 Speaker 1: Dogs And I learn this from Chris Brown. Dogs like 41 00:02:20,603 --> 00:02:22,364 Speaker 1: to be high up, and so if you want your 42 00:02:22,404 --> 00:02:24,404 Speaker 1: dog to have an outing but it's too old to walk, 43 00:02:24,564 --> 00:02:26,284 Speaker 1: you put it in a pram. I have new sympathy 44 00:02:26,324 --> 00:02:28,284 Speaker 1: for that. Now I've got an older dog, but also 45 00:02:28,363 --> 00:02:30,724 Speaker 1: dogs like mine. She's a Border Collie. She's got a 46 00:02:30,884 --> 00:02:33,764 Speaker 1: bit of a longer snout. German shepherds. All those dogs 47 00:02:33,764 --> 00:02:36,684 Speaker 1: that have long snouts. When you talk to them and 48 00:02:36,803 --> 00:02:37,924 Speaker 1: say do you want to go for a walkers at 49 00:02:37,964 --> 00:02:40,564 Speaker 1: time for dinner, they will move their head from side 50 00:02:40,603 --> 00:02:43,123 Speaker 1: to side when they look at you because they are 51 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:46,364 Speaker 1: trying to look around their own snout to read your 52 00:02:46,363 --> 00:02:49,684 Speaker 1: facial expressions. So dogs that are bred to be lap 53 00:02:49,724 --> 00:02:52,204 Speaker 1: dogs sit on your lap and are much and read 54 00:02:52,284 --> 00:02:55,204 Speaker 1: that much more easily. So Animals that have shorter snouts 55 00:02:56,004 --> 00:03:00,564 Speaker 1: are more cuddly cozy. So these animals also are having 56 00:03:00,603 --> 00:03:03,844 Speaker 1: a smaller body sized. Wolves were big. We forget how 57 00:03:03,844 --> 00:03:08,883 Speaker 1: big they were. Dogs became smaller. Their ears dropped. Floppy 58 00:03:09,004 --> 00:03:11,564 Speaker 1: ears is a sign of friendliness. A lot of this 59 00:03:11,684 --> 00:03:15,563 Speaker 1: stuff was changes that made them friendlier, cuter, and more 60 00:03:15,564 --> 00:03:19,404 Speaker 1: puppy like. That's what we've bred into these dogs that 61 00:03:19,524 --> 00:03:23,524 Speaker 1: started as wolves. Because they are less aggressive, they are cuter. 62 00:03:24,363 --> 00:03:28,644 Speaker 1: And one of the things too, is they canal their guts, 63 00:03:28,644 --> 00:03:32,363 Speaker 1: can handle human food and cooked foods rather just tearing 64 00:03:32,564 --> 00:03:35,924 Speaker 1: around meat in the wild, so they are less aggressive. 65 00:03:35,964 --> 00:03:38,884 Speaker 1: Their faces are less aggressive, their teeth are smaller, and 66 00:03:38,924 --> 00:03:42,644 Speaker 1: now they're starting to see all of that in raccoons. 67 00:03:43,244 --> 00:03:44,164 Speaker 1: Would you have a pet. 68 00:03:44,044 --> 00:03:49,844 Speaker 2: Raccoon, Well, they're not here, but I follow some life. 69 00:03:49,844 --> 00:03:53,964 Speaker 2: I probably have well over a possum. Yeah, I got 70 00:03:54,004 --> 00:03:56,324 Speaker 2: possums everywhere around here. But I follow a whole. 71 00:03:56,204 --> 00:03:59,764 Speaker 1: Lot of sights on social media sites of people who 72 00:04:00,044 --> 00:04:02,204 Speaker 1: animals walk in and they're injured and they look after them. 73 00:04:02,244 --> 00:04:06,044 Speaker 1: A lot of people do look after injured or orphaned 74 00:04:06,124 --> 00:04:08,684 Speaker 1: raccoons and end up sort of sitting at the table 75 00:04:08,684 --> 00:04:10,324 Speaker 1: with them and eating out of the fruit ball and 76 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:11,363 Speaker 1: part of the family. 77 00:04:12,604 --> 00:04:14,964 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was in Western Australia, there was a 78 00:04:15,004 --> 00:04:18,924 Speaker 2: family up there. They'd always look after injured kangaroos. Little 79 00:04:18,964 --> 00:04:22,484 Speaker 2: kangaroos and they grow in a big musclies. Well then yeah, 80 00:04:22,524 --> 00:04:24,204 Speaker 2: they and they can rip you a part of you. 81 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:28,724 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Michael Jackson's chimp. People who buy 82 00:04:28,804 --> 00:04:32,244 Speaker 1: little chimps have a lot of trouble when they reach adolescents, 83 00:04:32,484 --> 00:04:34,444 Speaker 1: and Bubbles had to be shipped off somewhere. 84 00:04:34,684 --> 00:04:37,644 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Bubbles was going to parties with Michael Jackson. 85 00:04:37,764 --> 00:04:40,444 Speaker 2: Was he remember that? You were telling me that we 86 00:04:40,484 --> 00:04:43,204 Speaker 2: went to the parties and Apparently he held court. 87 00:04:43,244 --> 00:04:46,164 Speaker 1: Apparently he was far more social than Michael was. People 88 00:04:46,164 --> 00:04:49,124 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Bubbles rather than Michaels. 89 00:04:48,764 --> 00:04:54,404 Speaker 2: Because Michael's hurling the feces round God. Liz Taylor right 90 00:04:54,444 --> 00:04:56,124 Speaker 2: in the mush, you can see it. More on the 91 00:04:56,124 --> 00:05:02,484 Speaker 2: White Gloves, Okay today, Come back to more for more. 92 00:05:02,684 --> 00:05:03,884 Speaker 2: Georgie Hammond