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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 1: Bungelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges

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Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the

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Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily oz It's the

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Speaker 2: last day of winter. Thanks God for that. Thursday, the

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Speaker 2: thirty first of August.

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Speaker 3: I'm Zara Seidler, I'm Sam Kazlowski. It's official.

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Speaker 2: We now have the date that Ozzi's will go to

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Speaker 2: the polls and vote in the referendum on an Indigenous

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Speaker 4: Today I announced that referendum day will be the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: So what exactly is going to happen on that day

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Speaker 2: let you know in today's deep dive. But fair Sam,

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Speaker 2: some inflation numbers yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Inflation has slowed for the third month in

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Speaker 3: a row to four point nine percent in July. That's

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Speaker 3: according to new data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

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Speaker 3: It means that prices were four point nine percent higher

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Speaker 3: point four percent in June. It's the lowest inflation rate

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Speaker 3: to influence the Reserve Bank's next cash rate decision. Ahead

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Speaker 3: their last two meetings.

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Speaker 2: Minimum employment standards could be introduced for delivery and ride

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Speaker 2: share drivers. A federal government proposal is expected to be

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Speaker 2: announced later today, and that will detail payment terms and

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Speaker 2: insurance agreements aimed at better protecting workers in the gig economy.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand is one step closer to lowering the voting

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Speaker 3: but change won't be legislated until after the upcoming October election.

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Speaker 3: The legislation comes after the country's Supreme Court found that

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Speaker 3: the current voting age of eighteen was inconsistent with the

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Speaker 3: human rights of children. If the current Labor government does

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Speaker 2: And the good news a world first cancer treatment that

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Speaker 2: for more than three thoy five hundred patients in England.

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Speaker 2: This treatment will be administered as an injection. The immunotherapy

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Speaker 2: treatment is expected to provide faster care for patients and

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Speaker 2: has announced the referendum date for an Indigenous voice to Parliament.

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Speaker 4: The idea for a voice came from the people and

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Speaker 4: it will be decided by the people. Today I announced

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Speaker 4: that referendum day will be the fourteenth of October. On

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Speaker 3: So this is something that all Australians who are over

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the big question, what is the Indigenous

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Speaker 2: So Essentially, in a nutshell, an Indigenous Voice to Parliament

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Speaker 2: As I said, a referendum is a public vote to

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Speaker 2: The majority of voters across Australia, as well as the

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty high bar, right.

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Speaker 2: It is a high bar. It's really hard to change

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this one's a referendum. We're all going to

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Speaker 2: So it's a yes or no question. Those are the

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Speaker 3: Ballance as inspel the word y yes or so you'll.

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Speaker 2: Read that question and you will have the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: I remember we were together on election night in May

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Speaker 2: So this request for an Indigenous voice to Parliament came

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Speaker 3: And when you're talking about the voice, what does the

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Speaker 2: So we heard from the Minister for Indigenous Australians, Linda Bernie,

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Speaker 2: Update on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, so I'll throw

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Speaker 3: So throughout the year we've heard from the government and

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Speaker 3: We get one vote each.

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Speaker 2: As powerful as the Prime.

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Speaker 3: Minister, right exactly. But in saying that, it's good to

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Speaker 2: So we'll start with the Labor Party, who are of

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Speaker 2: There's been a fair bit of polling and I think

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Speaker 2: that we can expect it to ramp up and probably

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Speaker 2: change a bit as we head closer and closer towards

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Speaker 2: that October date. But the latest poll that was published

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Speaker 2: widely was an essential poll, so that's published by The Guardian,

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Speaker 2: that found that forty seven percent of respondents intended to

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Speaker 2: vote no, forty three percent of respondents intended to vote yes,

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Speaker 2: and ten percent at the time was still undecided.

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Speaker 3: That's across Australia.

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Speaker 2: But another thing worth looking at in this data, I

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Speaker 2: think is how the polling looks state by state because

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Speaker 2: of that double majority point I said before, So at

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Speaker 2: the moment, according to that same essential poll, the only

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Speaker 2: state where the yes vote is ahead of the No

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Speaker 2: vote is in Victoria. The closest margin after that is

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Speaker 2: and the Yes campaign has forty five percent.

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Speaker 3: And we've done some of our own polling on this

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Speaker 3: question as well.

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Speaker 2: We have, but I mean again, I'm sorry that this

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Speaker 2: whole podcast seems to be caveats, but we speak to

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Speaker 2: a very specific audience. We are trying to provide a

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Speaker 2: platform for young Australians to feel like their voices and

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Speaker 2: their opinions can be heard. But that means that there

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Speaker 2: is going to be an overrepresentation of the youth voting block,

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Speaker 2: and I think we just need to put that there

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Speaker 2: before we continue. But at the time of recording, we

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Speaker 2: had over one thousand people who had responded. Eighty three

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Speaker 2: percent of them said that they intended to vote yes.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen point seven percent said that they intended to vote no. Interestingly,

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Speaker 2: when you compare those figures to what I'm about to say,

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Speaker 2: Fifty one percent said that they thought the referendum would succeed,

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Speaker 2: but forty nine percent of them said that it would fail. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: eighty one percent said that they felt they had enough

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Speaker 2: information to make an informed vote, one nineteen percent said

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Speaker 2: that they didn't. And if you are part of that

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Speaker 2: nineteen percent and you're listening today, don't worry. We will

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Speaker 2: absolutely be giving you as much information as we can

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Speaker 2: in the lead up to this vote, because the best

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Speaker 2: vote is an informed vote, and will endeavor to bring

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Speaker 2: you podcasts and videos and content as much as we

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Speaker 2: can on this so that you feel really confident when

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Speaker 2: you have to go vote on the fourteenth of October.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening to the Daily Os and

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Speaker 3: we would love to know your thoughts on the Voice

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Speaker 3: to Parliament. That poll is still live, there's a link

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Speaker 3: in the show notes and we'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back again tomorrow. Until then, have a great day.