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Speaker 1: It's a special Woman Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mini. Hey, it's welling what It's a Monday afternoon today,

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Speaker 2: Woods there were over forty rallies across the nation, tens

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Speaker 2: of thousands of Australians hitting the streets through major cities

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Speaker 2: and regional towns in this Women's March for Justice rallies

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Speaker 2: in the wake of a whole bunch of events that

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Speaker 2: I'm sure have hit the news throughout your news feeds

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Speaker 2: about women who are being abused, mistreated, silenced across the country.

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Speaker 2: So literally tens of thousands of women everywhere. But the

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Speaker 2: big one was well, there was one day in Hobart

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Speaker 2: where Grace Tame, the Australian of the Year, who was

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Speaker 2: a sexual abuse survivor, spoke and share these are.

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Speaker 1: We killed, not just as individuals, so therefore ever collective

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Speaker 1: as so powerful and from the conversations, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we have education and the education we can use so

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Speaker 1: properly inform structures and create actual concrete change.

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Speaker 3: She speaks, doesn't She speaks really well.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what that's really contrasted with and

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Speaker 2: I actually yeah, I bleed for Britney Higgins. She just

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Speaker 2: she just she spoke at Canrich today. There was a

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Speaker 2: big rally there and you can just hear I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like a reluctance. You can feel the hurt

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Speaker 2: in her voice. That's what I want to say.

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Speaker 3: And I think that can be even more powerful in

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Speaker 3: that she's not the kind of personality wants to be

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Speaker 3: up there doing the big public speeches and whatnot, but

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Speaker 3: she realizes just how important this is for women to

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Speaker 3: be speaking at And one hundred percent credit to her

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Speaker 3: for getting up and saying, we're.

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Speaker 4: All here today not because we want to be here,

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Speaker 4: but because we have to be here. We fundamentally recognize

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Speaker 4: the system is broken, the glass ceiling is still in place,

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Speaker 4: and there are significant failings in the power structures within

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Speaker 4: our institutions.

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Speaker 3: Literally said at the start, didn't she? Not because we

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Speaker 3: want to be because we have to.

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Speaker 2: Be here now. Somebody who is on the ground in

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Speaker 2: canbrit the biggest of the rallies across the country out

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Speaker 2: the front of the nation's capital while Parliament was sitting

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Speaker 2: today as well, which is just outrageous, gear was Sarah Iisen.

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Speaker 2: She is the federal politics reporter for the Western Strange.

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Speaker 2: She joins right now, Gooday Sarah, Hey, mate, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. Can you talk to us a little bit

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Speaker 2: when we was and I just talking from watching videos

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Speaker 2: of Brittney Higgins talk, Can you talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: through what it was like to see her talk and

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Speaker 2: the vibe around her, etc.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, I think it was a surprise that

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Speaker 5: she was there. So it was this sense of her

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Speaker 5: walking through the crowd, and you know, police had to

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Speaker 5: kind of provide her this way through and you sense

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Speaker 5: it through the crowd to the rebberations and these whispers

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Speaker 5: you know, Brittany's here, Brittany here, and it was like,

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Speaker 5: it was pretty indescribable, this feeling of the whole crowd

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Speaker 5: reacting to at first, you know, the whisper that she

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Speaker 5: was there, because obviously it's very hard to see anyone clearly,

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Speaker 5: and people were thinking you should definitely hear if she not.

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Speaker 5: And then for her to get on into by Lisa Wilkinson.

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Speaker 5: It was it's a really hard feeling to describe this,

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Speaker 5: the whole aura of the entire crowd. It was, you know,

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Speaker 5: people were cheering and yelling and you know, and when

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Speaker 5: Brittany would say things like, oh, you know, I did this,

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Speaker 5: so no other woman would have to go through this.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like this corn response. Did all these

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Speaker 5: women say, and you've done so well, and everyone's yelling

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Speaker 5: thank you, Brittany, thank you, thank you, thank you. It

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Speaker 5: wasn't just this one sided speech. It was a lot

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Speaker 5: of people telling her thank you, telling her she had

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Speaker 5: done something really important, sharing for her. So it was

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Speaker 5: a very emotional, emotional speech.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're just saying you could hear that, you know.

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Speaker 2: It was such a contrast between Grace tam who's obviously

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Speaker 2: been in the spotlight most recently of being Australian of

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Speaker 2: the Year. We had her in the studio. Actually she

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Speaker 2: speaks very confidently about that, She's very sure about what

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Speaker 2: needs to happen. And I was just saying, my heart

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Speaker 2: breaks hearing Brittany talk because is exactly as she said.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be there, she feels that she

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Speaker 2: needs to be there and she's lying the flag. Was

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Speaker 2: there was there like a real sense of momentum after

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Speaker 2: the movement and was there any reflection on the Prime

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of momentum after the movement.

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Speaker 5: Julia Zamira, who was the MC said hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: over and after this get together wasn't kind of like,

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Speaker 5: oh cool, we're done, now everyone goes home. Also, the

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Speaker 5: protests were invited to a smoking ceremony. Obviously we've got

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Speaker 5: we've got the ten embassy here in Canberra, so there

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Speaker 5: was a mo mensum of this going on. There was deference,

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Speaker 5: vitriol against the Prime minister, people yelling it out. The

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Speaker 5: organizers in the MC tried to keep it pretty low

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Speaker 5: key because the march itself said it was a non

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Speaker 5: violent obviously but also a political So what they did

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Speaker 5: was they didn't let anyone speak, even labor and there

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Speaker 5: were some things of Scott Morrison's bear or whatever, but

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Speaker 5: it was kept quite brief and short. But even with

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Speaker 5: those short, short, tiny comments of he come out today, yeah, again,

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Speaker 5: the vitriol from the crowd was so intense, even to

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Speaker 5: just one off kind of handed sentence, so people kind

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Speaker 5: of read like you could feel the energy and a

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Speaker 5: lot of that. I think the rage. You know, Julia

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Speaker 5: was up there saying maintain that rage, and I think

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Speaker 5: rage was a word that was used a lot today

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Speaker 5: and it was palpable. You could feel it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm seeing photos all across the country, women holding

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Speaker 2: up signs in places like rural Victoria, like talk Key,

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Speaker 2: they wrote the word justice with their bodies on the sand,

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Speaker 2: Women holding up signs saying ask me about my nda.

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you all about it. I've been silenced.

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Speaker 2: I know. In Melbourne today some women have glued themselves

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Speaker 2: to the road out the front of the aut the

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Speaker 2: front of the Liberal Party headquarters as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's obviously rage is certainly something which is firing all

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Speaker 2: of this today, this march for Justice.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect do you expect Scott Morrison to talk

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Speaker 3: at some point? Sarah, like, is he is? He? Is

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Speaker 3: he going to hold a press conference here as we're

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Speaker 3: all saying there is rage all over the country here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if I want to stay pretty solid

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Speaker 5: on Listen, the invite remains open, he and Senator pain

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Speaker 5: just in question time in the House and then send

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Speaker 5: it now dead. Listen, that invite remains open, so a

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Speaker 5: delegation of the organizers can meet with us. Still we

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Speaker 5: haven't closed that option. The fact is whether he holds

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Speaker 5: the press confidence or not on this issue. If you

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Speaker 5: hold the press confidence about vaccines or anything from today

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Speaker 5: into the next few days, or even weeks he will

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Speaker 5: be asked about this. It's not you know, it is

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Speaker 5: going to remain on the agenda. Labor journals, different groups

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Speaker 5: are going to keep hitting it. So regardless of kind

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Speaker 5: of how much he gives it in terms of you know,

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Speaker 5: a press componence or some kind of post, it's kind

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Speaker 5: of immaterial because it is the focus of so many

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Speaker 5: people across so many different you know parliamentari parliamentary groups

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Speaker 5: and you know journalists and advocacy groups. It's just going

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Speaker 5: to remain central.

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Speaker 2: Sarah, thanks so much for joining us. We've got one

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Speaker 2: final question for you. As the federal politics support at

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Speaker 2: the West Australian. How does it as a woman of

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Speaker 2: his in a big business how does it make you

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Speaker 2: feel about your standing and who you are in the workplace.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, i'd say I guess for my workplace,

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Speaker 5: I feel very well supported in you know, the West.

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Speaker 5: But what's interesting is that I do work in Parliament House.

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Speaker 5: So when I walk through the halls Parliament now, it's

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Speaker 5: a very different feeling to when I started. So when

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Speaker 5: I started, I was walking through these huge halls. We're

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Speaker 5: just like all gratitude and thinking like this are the

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Speaker 5: halls of power. This is amazing and now it's a

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Speaker 5: very different feeling. It's a feeling of it, is everyone

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Speaker 5: safe in this building right now? Is there anyone as

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Speaker 5: I'm walking down these halls not feeling safe or something

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Speaker 5: is happening to them? Because again it happened to Brittany,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the Minister's office right So it's less

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Speaker 5: so about my company and more so just the building

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Speaker 5: in general. And I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 5: feeling that, whether they're journalists, whether they're parliamentarians or staff

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Speaker 5: or whoever. It's kind of this powerful sense in the building.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really interesting up amazing perspective for someone spends

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Speaker 2: a lot of time in there. So thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for that, Sarah. Thanks thanks for sharing that, Thanks for

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Speaker 2: giving us all the dates over there. Much appreciated pleasure

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Speaker 2: to talk to you. And yeah, thanks for illustrating exactly

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Speaker 2: what today was for you from on the ground and

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Speaker 2: then you know, for women at large, massive day in.

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Speaker 5: The here Australia. Yeah, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sarah.

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Speaker 5: Hear more of the boys on the full Show podcast.

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