1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Good morning, and welcome to the 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Daily OS. It's Thursday, the fifth of June. I'm Billy Fitzsimon. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm Emma Gillespie. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: You may have seen that Elon Musk has criticized a 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: bill brought forward by US President Donald Trump. To be specific, 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: must call Trump's bill a disgusting abomination. It comes just 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: days after Musk finished up at the White House as 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the head of the Department of Government Efficiency, also known 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: as DOGE. It's left us with one question. A Trump 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and Musk, a duo whose close relationship have been at 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: the center of political power this year in the US 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: now fighting and if so, what's it all about? Well, 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: explain what you need to know in today's podcast, Billy. 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: This is not the turn in the el mask Donald 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Trump friendship, bromance, whatever you want to call it, that 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: I saw coming. But some very strong language this week. 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Let's take a step back. Why was Elon Musk ever 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: in the White House? To begin with? 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, if you're not familiar with Elon Musk, although 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure many of our listeners are, he is one 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of the richest people in the world. He is the banks. 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: The richest man in the world. 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: He is the owner of x, the social media platform 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: formerly known as Twitter. He is also the CEO of 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Tesla and has a whole suite of very very successful companies. Now, 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: it was big news when he did become part of 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: the White House under Donald Trump, because I think it 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: is quite unusual for someone who is so successful in 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the private sector to then make this move into the 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: public sector. Yeah, although I guess it does kind of 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: mimic Donald Trump himself. 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: True. 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so Mask became part of the White House 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: because he was appointed as the leader of the Department 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency, which, as I said before, is more 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: commonly known as DOGE. And now that was, or is, 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I should say, a government agency established when Trump was 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: sworn in as president earlier this year. So it was 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: an entirely new agency. It had never been created before. Now, 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: its goal was very simple. Its goal was to reduce 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: what it labeled as wasteful spending by the US government, 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: and it did have certain targets, although like any good 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: target it changed over time. So at the start, I 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: think it was around the two trillion marks. So it 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: wanted to reduce spending by the US government buy up 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: to two trillion dollars. 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: And you might remember in the very very early days 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: of the Trump administration some quite sweeping threats or comments 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: about cuts to public sector government jobs on the line. 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: There were some pretty significant announcements in those early days. 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Yes, and then the target changed and it was reduced 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to one trillion dollars. The goal was to reduce spending 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: by one trillion dollars. Now just less than six months 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in to DOGE, it hasn't achieved that, although we are 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: just six months in and it is set to continue. 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: I mean a trillion dollars in US or Australian. Yeah, 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: it's a lot of money. It's more than my small 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: brain can even comprehend. 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Now. Last week Elon Musk said that DOGE had found 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty billion dollars in savings for the 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: next financial year, which is of course significantly less than 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: the one trillion dollars that he was planning to save, 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: but one hundred and fifty billion dollars still no small 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: amount of money. 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: I think it's also important to flag that in his 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: capacity as this advisor to DOGE, Elon Musk wasn't necessarily 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: an elected official. He was brought on in this advisory capacity, 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: which is why he's no longer in the job. It 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: was kind of always going to be this temporary role. 71 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Come in, cleaning up, so to speak, and get out 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and go and live. 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Your life, exactly. And I think that's what's important here 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: is that Elon Musk is no longer part of DOGE, 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: although DOGE will continue after he has now left, But 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: it was always planned that his involvement in this would 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: only ever be temporary. And that's because he was serving 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: as something called a special government employee, and that is 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: just a specific category of temporary contractor who can only 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: work for the federal government for one hundred and thirty 81 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: days each year. So that's a very specific thing in 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: US law and. 83 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Ties into democracy elected officials being the key decision makers exactly. 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: And he was also unpaid, so he didn't receive any 85 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: money in that role. And so all of that meant 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: that his last day was last Friday, and on his 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: last day, Trump and Mask held a press conference. It 88 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: was mostly civil, it was nothing out of the ordinary 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: for the two. They both complimented each other and Musk 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: said that he looks forward to quote continuing to be 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: a friend and advisor to the president. So as of 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: last Friday, all mostly looked good. 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: I will say it was very civil on the surface, 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: but it was a far cry from Elon Musk waving 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: a chainsaw on stage, which you might remember back in February, 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: he brought this chainsaw on stage as a kind of 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: symbol of how he was going to slash spending in 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: this role, and it was all very exciting, shiny concert 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: like rockstar like energy around this political relationship. So it 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: has been a few days since that final conference, that 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 2: departure of Elon Musk from that role. But now he's 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: come out swinging. He's been very critical of Trump. What 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: has Elon Musk said? 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yesterday we woke to the news that Musk 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: has very heavily criticized one of Trump's proposed laws, which 106 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: is called the Big Beautiful Bill. So in a po 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: x yesterday, Musk said, this massive, outrageous Porkfield Congressional spending 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted 109 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: for it. You know you did wrong, you know it. 110 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: I will say, it's actually not the first time that 111 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Musk has criticized this big beautiful bill. He also did 112 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: that last week, right before his final day, but this 113 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: is definitely his strongest criticism of it yet, at least publicly, 114 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: we don't know what has happened behind closed doors. I 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: would also point out, though, that Mask has stopped short 116 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: of naming Trump specifically, So he's criticizing this bill, but 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: he hasn't said Trump by name, although we of course 118 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: know that Trump is the one behind this bill. 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more of today's deep dive right 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: after this. Yeah, this bill really has been at the 121 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: center of Trump's second term as president. So what is 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: the quote unquote big beautiful bill? What do we need 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: to know about it? Why does it mean so much 124 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump? 125 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: So this bill sets out key parts of Trump's domestic 126 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: policy agenda. So it sets out what he wants to 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: do within the US specifically, and some of it is 128 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: about cutting spending, but then some of it also increases 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: spending by the US government. I'll go through There's so 130 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: much in it, but I'll go through some of what 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: it includes. So one is that it extends tax cuts 132 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: that were introduced during Trump's first term. Those tax cuts 133 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: were actually due to expire this year, but under this bill, 134 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: those tax cuts will extend for many more years to come. 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: So picking up where Trump left off the last. 136 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: Time exactly, and just to explain it a little bit more, 137 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: that means that the government will be earning less in 138 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: revenue from income tax So we know that government spending 139 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: relies significantly on taxes, and because of this bill, they 140 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: will now have less of that income from taxes. It 141 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: also increases spending or funding at the US Mexico border 142 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: to control or stop illegal immigration. So those two specific 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: parts of this bill will increase the deficit. But then 144 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: there are parts of the bill that will then limit spending. 145 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: So one of that is limiting who is eligible for 146 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: something called Medicaid, and that's a program which helps cover 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: medical expenses for those on lower incomes. So under this bill, 148 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Trump is wanting to limit who is eligible for the program, 149 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: which means that the government will be spending less on 150 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the program. It also wants to bring forward the expiry 151 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: date of some renewable energy initiatives, so it wants to 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: spend less money on clean energy. And then it also 153 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: wants to increase the national debt limit by four trillion dollars. 154 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: Here we are with this trillion figure. Again, So just 155 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: to recap, we've got a bill that would cut tax 156 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: revenue for the government but also reduce its spending on 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: welfare and renewable energy. What is the national debt limit though? 158 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: What does that really mean? 159 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: So this is something that I feel like, especially in 160 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the last five years or so, has come up time 161 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: and time again. It is a limit that is set 162 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: by Congress on the amount of money that the federal 163 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: US government can borrow to fund its policies and operations. Right, 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, for another day we need to explain 165 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: why all countries are in very, very large debts. 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: Yep. 167 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: But like I said, I think that is for another day. 168 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: What you need to know is that under this bill, 169 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Trump wants to increase the national debt limit by four 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: trillion dollars. 171 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like expanding America's credit limit. 172 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Yes, got it. 173 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: So back to Musk's criticism of this plan, then, is 174 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: he saying Congress are spending too much money with this plan? 175 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: Exactly? That? In a nutshell, that is exactly what he's saying. 176 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: And this is all in the context of the life 177 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: six months where he has tried to cut how much 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: the US government is spending, and now he's saying that 179 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: with this bill, the government is basically just undoing what 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: he's done because they're just spending more and more by trillions. 181 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: Just to give you more of an idea of what 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: he said yesterday, he also said, quote mammoth spending bills 183 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: are bankrupting America, and that has been a word that 184 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: has come up time and time again by Mask. He 185 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: has said that if we do not control the spending, 186 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: America will go bankrupt. 187 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: How has the White House responded to all of these comments. 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: He's obviously tabling some significant concerns around spending, very strong language, 189 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: very critical about this plan. What are officials saying to that? 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I will say that this concern about the spending of 191 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: this specific bill isn't necessarily new. So the White House 192 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Press Secretary back in May responded to concerns about it, 193 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: and she said it does not add to the deficit. 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: And she actually claimed that it will say one point 195 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: six trillion dollars, So she's saying it will do the 196 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: opposite of what Musk is saying it will do. In 197 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: terms of Trump himself, he hasn't personally responded to Musk's 198 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: most recent comments, at least at the time of recording. However, 199 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: just hours after Elon Musk sent out this post, White 200 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt she did hold a press 201 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: briefing where she was obviously asked about it. He's a 202 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: little bit of what she said. The President already knows 203 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: where Elon Musk stood on this bill. It doesn't change 204 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the president's opinion. This is one big, beautiful bell and 205 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: he's sticking to it. 206 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: So, Billy, what happens now? This bill has passed the 207 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: House of Reps. But it's not a sure thing yet. 208 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: What is in the future for the bill? 209 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: Exactly so, like you said, it has already passed the 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. Now the next step is for it 211 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: to pass the Senate. Now, the Republicans, which is the 212 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: party that Donald Trump leads, they do have a slight 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: majority in the Senate, which usually would mean that it 214 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: probably would pass. However, there have been some Republicans who 215 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: have come out criticizing this bill. I think it works 216 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: quite differently to Australia, where in Australia, if a party 217 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: supports a bill, that kind of means that everyone who 218 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: is a member of that party also has to support 219 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: it's going to toe the party line exactly. In the US, 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: they don't have that, so there can be Republicans who 221 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: don't support it. And they only have a majority in 222 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: the Senate by something like three members, so they really 223 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: do need most people to support this bill. It probably 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: will pass, but there might be some amendments, and then, 225 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: just like all bills, if there are amendments in the Senate, 226 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: it needs to go back to the House of Representatives, 227 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: and then once it gets that, it will then be 228 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: signed into law. 229 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: As with any major policy from this administration. Billy, I'm 230 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: sure this is just the beginning in terms of what 231 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: we're going to hear about this bill, and knowing Trump 232 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: and Musk as we do, I'm sure they won't be 233 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: holding back with their thoughts and feelings about it either. 234 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: So we will keep our listeners updated on that one. 235 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for explaining it to us. Thank you, 236 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: and thank you for listening to today's episode. If you 237 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: enjoyed it, feel free to share it with a friend. 238 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: Get the word out there. 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