WEBVTT - Not Eating Enough? The Signs Your Diet Is Sabotaging Your Goals!

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought that maybe the issue with your

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<v Speaker 1>diet is not that you're eating too much, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're eating too little. It may come as a surprise

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that under eating can be just as damaging

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<v Speaker 1>to metabolism as overeating. And on today's episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Nutrition Couch, we deep dive the signs that you meet

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<v Speaker 1>actually be eating too few calories for your level of activity. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sussi Borrel and I'm Line Wood, and together we

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<v Speaker 1>bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that talks

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<v Speaker 1>about everything you need to know in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>nutrition as well as under eating. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a closer look at sausages in supermarkets. Leanne has

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<v Speaker 1>found a new low sugar dessert treat to share with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and our listener question is all about choosing the best collagen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you know. On Nutrition Couchla, we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a lot about hormones and weight control and

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<v Speaker 1>Perry and GLP one medications, but certainly I regularly have

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<v Speaker 1>clients to come to me who I actually work out

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<v Speaker 1>and not eating enough for their level of training, and

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<v Speaker 1>as such they are not reaching their fat loss related

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<v Speaker 1>goals or body composition goals. So a lady that springs

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<v Speaker 1>to mind, she trains heavy weights two to three times

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<v Speaker 1>at the gym. She was a dancer in a former life,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's got a very small frame and she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to lean up a little bit. But certainly, when I

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<v Speaker 1>assessed her diet was not a case of eating too much.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she was basically starving her body of calories.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is not as uncommon as you may think,

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<v Speaker 1>is it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, certainly not. We certainly do. I'd say the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>end of spectrum when it comes to our clients. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we give them a lot more, sometimes we give them

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<v Speaker 2>a lot less. But it is a case of where

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<v Speaker 2>less is not always better, particularly from a fat loss perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are some common signs. But I'll first start

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<v Speaker 2>by saying, if your goal is to have improvements with

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<v Speaker 2>your training, and I often have clients that say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I do exercise wise, and I'll say, great, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you feel in your sessions? When was the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you hit a bat peeb When was the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you change up your training? And there are

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<v Speaker 2>so many women out there who are just training for

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<v Speaker 2>the sake of training. They're just exercising for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of exercising, they're not actually progressing with their exercise. So

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<v Speaker 2>you do need to actually eat enough calories, certainly at

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum at maintenance, if not in a calories surplus,

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<v Speaker 2>to actively build muscle as a female, it is difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Muscle is a metabolically active tissue, so if your goal

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<v Speaker 2>is to actually put on some lean muscle mass, you

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<v Speaker 2>at a minimum have to eat it and maintenance. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very very difficult to put on muscle mass in a

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<v Speaker 2>calorie deficit. It can be done, but it is very

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult and does require quite a few different little

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<v Speaker 2>tweaks here and theres it's certainly easier to do at

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<v Speaker 2>maintenance calories if not a calories surplus. But some of

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<v Speaker 2>the common signs that we do see as dieticians that

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<v Speaker 2>you are under eating. And again a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>time people aren't actually intentionally doing this right. They're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this because they think they're doing the right thing. They

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<v Speaker 2>think that less is better is more. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the times one of the biggest signs there's just

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<v Speaker 2>that constant fatigue and low energy, Like if you are

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<v Speaker 2>under eating, you are quite literally underfueling your body. And

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<v Speaker 2>your body simply doesn't have enough fuel to actually support

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<v Speaker 2>your level of training, normal metabolism, brain function, and that

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<v Speaker 2>out on top of that, any steps you might be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to push yourself harder in a session

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<v Speaker 2>to hit a PB or run a bit faster, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not really going to be able to do that if

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<v Speaker 2>your body is running on empty. Think about it like

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<v Speaker 2>putting fuel in a car. It can't go anywhere if

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<v Speaker 2>you've constantly haven't given it enough. So I guess a

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<v Speaker 2>big sign for a lot of people is that brain flog,

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<v Speaker 2>poor concentration, really low energy, feeling really flat even after

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<v Speaker 2>you've slept really well, like you know, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>had a solid seven eight nine hours of sleep and

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<v Speaker 2>you're still feeling just that persistent tiredness. That's a really

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<v Speaker 2>common sign for a lot of us that a you

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<v Speaker 2>either have low iron and as females, that's very common.

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<v Speaker 2>And I laugh because I myself at the moment, despite

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the right things as a dietician, have been

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<v Speaker 2>told I have low iron as well, So that's always fun, Suzie.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other one is basically I guess for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of women under eating can and I guess accelerate

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<v Speaker 2>strong cravings and feeling a bit out of control around food.

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<v Speaker 2>So a big sign that someone may be underfueling consistently

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<v Speaker 2>is when they constantly have these really intense cravings, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>for that what I would call more like those soul

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<v Speaker 2>food type of things, like high energy food, sugar carbs,

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<v Speaker 2>quite high fat snacks. So often when the body is underfed,

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<v Speaker 2>the hunger hormones can increase and the brain can really

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<v Speaker 2>prioritize that quick energy type of food. So this often

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<v Speaker 2>leads to that cycle of restriction and under eating, then

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<v Speaker 2>craving and then overeating, and that repeats in a cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people kind of have the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't have enough wheel power or they're not

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<v Speaker 2>able to lose weight because you know they're not strong

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<v Speaker 2>enough for something's wrong with them. But often it's an

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<v Speaker 2>underfueling issue, and you might not be underfueling all weak,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're certainly underfueling in periods, which is then causing

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of out of control eating later on. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's I guess one another common sign where it might

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<v Speaker 2>not be that consistent underfueling, but you're underfueling enough where

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<v Speaker 2>then that's causing sort of not ideal consequences or symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>later on. Another big sign of underfueling is constantly being

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<v Speaker 2>injured or sick. I've had clients that have worked with

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<v Speaker 2>me before, like Usuuzi, where I've given them more food.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually able to achieve their body fat goals because

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<v Speaker 2>again they're not stuck in that crave restrict over each cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>But again they say to me, this is the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I work in a twelve week coaching model, so

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<v Speaker 2>over three months, in three months, I've never been sick.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I haven't had an injury at the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm not picking up all the coals that

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<v Speaker 2>my kids are bringing home. And that is a big

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<v Speaker 2>sign of underfueling's poor recovery after exercise, regularly being injured

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<v Speaker 2>or regularly getting sick, because basically, if you're not giving

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<v Speaker 2>your body enough calories, it can't repair the muscle tissue,

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<v Speaker 2>it can't replenish the glycogen stores in the muscle, so

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<v Speaker 2>that generally will lead you feeling quite sore after workouts

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<v Speaker 2>for quite a few days, you having a decline and performance,

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<v Speaker 2>or not able to make any sort of gains or

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<v Speaker 2>hit new PBS within your exercise sessions and also needing

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<v Speaker 2>longer to recover between sessions. So this is I guess

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<v Speaker 2>a particularly common one in women who do train quite

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<v Speaker 2>a lot but are actually underfueling throughout the day. And

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<v Speaker 2>then another big one is hormonal disruptions, and I'll pass

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<v Speaker 2>over to you Susie, but this is a big one

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<v Speaker 2>we both generally see because low energy intake, whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not it's intentional, can often affect hormones. And for women,

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<v Speaker 2>a big one is either irregular periods or completely missing periods.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big one that you're probably overexercising and underfueling,

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<v Speaker 2>and when mood starts to be impacted like low mood

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, low energy fatigue and poor sleep as well,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that can be more I guess linked to

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<v Speaker 2>hormonal disruptions, which is generally due to what we call

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<v Speaker 2>low energy availability as dieticians, or simply just not eating

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<v Speaker 2>enough to support the level of training that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>True, and it can be you know, if you're quite

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<v Speaker 1>stricrid your diet off and not getting enough good fat,

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<v Speaker 1>so not having sort of some extra virgin olive oil, nuts, seeds.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually I think the key thing to look for

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<v Speaker 1>if you train a lot, so I'm talking at least

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<v Speaker 1>an hour a day of high intensity. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>even within three to five kilos of ideal weight, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're already quite slim, but you want to take it

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level. If you're not feeling hungry, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a sign you're under eating, because normally metabolism should

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<v Speaker 1>work as if you have your first meal of the

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<v Speaker 1>day and three hours later you're starving if you are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fit, and if you're not, chances are you're eating

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<v Speaker 1>too little, or if you're delaying that first meal of

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<v Speaker 1>the day until late morning again because you're not hungry

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<v Speaker 1>when you wake up, these are all signs that quite

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<v Speaker 1>possibly you're under eating, and that is common where people

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<v Speaker 1>are having quite light dinners protein just invege, not much carbohydrate,

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<v Speaker 1>no pastas, no rices, and then they continue to overtrain

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<v Speaker 1>and stave through the morning. So for me, a very

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<v Speaker 1>basic measure if potentially you're under eating is if you

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<v Speaker 1>do not notice or feel hunger regularly and you're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>close to ideal weighty, but if you want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit leaner, So that's pretty simple al rightly,

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<v Speaker 1>and sausages Now, I grew up in bangers and mash,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a client sent me a food diary

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<v Speaker 1>and wrote, I had bangers and mash, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>by really like by choice, because certainly when you're having

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<v Speaker 1>that out at a pub, they're certainly not low fatten ly. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, we will preface this segment by saying

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<v Speaker 1>that we are certainly not encouraging people to eat more

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<v Speaker 1>process meat. Sausages do generally contain nitrits, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>been recommended by the World Health Organization that these foods

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<v Speaker 1>be limited in the diet due to their positive link

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<v Speaker 1>and association between increased risk of digestive health cancers. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tricky one, isn't that Leanne Because people eat sausages,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly in Australia, it's very Australian, the bunning sausage.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to a barbecue. So you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't certainly not be having them more than once

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<v Speaker 1>a week in my own house. I probably have them

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids once a fortnight. But what I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>when we're having people over and I go to get

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<v Speaker 1>some from the barbecue, there is a really big range

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them are not very good quality. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about it today for budget conscious listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are feeding children, entertaining it for that

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<v Speaker 1>once a week, once a fortnite me or what do

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<v Speaker 1>you look for because there are huge differences. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I would say is that for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time in supermarkets, Peppercorn, which is an Australian company, had

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about going back to my days at

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<v Speaker 1>the Kids Hospital around twenty years ago, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>routinely recommend this brand because they were the leaners sausages

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<v Speaker 1>in the supermarket. Now, they weren't low fat, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were low in saturated fat and as so at the

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<v Speaker 1>time had the heart foundation tick and they're still available

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<v Speaker 1>today in both collars and woolies. They've got burger patties,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a lean sausage in chicken and beef. So

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<v Speaker 1>in one of these sausages, it's just over one hundred calories,

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<v Speaker 1>almost nine grams of protein. It's got eight percent fat overall,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very low for a sausage because keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>for a sausage to cook and texture, you need some

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<v Speaker 1>fat and low saturated fat. So just one point or

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<v Speaker 1>less than three percent saturated fat, and when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the nutritionals on those, it is the high percentage

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<v Speaker 1>that got seventy percent, and Australian beef they've got carrot,

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<v Speaker 1>sauted onion, and then followed by the additions to make

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<v Speaker 1>the sausage, which is the rice flour, salt, parsley, and

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<v Speaker 1>the sulfites which is the concern, and the mineral salts,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the ones we want to ideally minimize in

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<v Speaker 1>the diet. So one of the key things with the

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<v Speaker 1>peppercorn range is that they also don't have the night

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<v Speaker 1>traits in them. So what food manufacturers are becoming aware

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<v Speaker 1>of is that the two fifty range of food additives,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the night traits, are being taken out, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the key thing. So when you're scanning an ingredient list,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure you're not seeing any two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty food additives, which is the case for the peppercorn

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<v Speaker 1>range and also a number of others. So these are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my go to gold standard Newly and you

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<v Speaker 1>do pay a bit more for the quality. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are sort of up to ten dollars per pack

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<v Speaker 1>of seven compared to five dollars, sort of cheap and

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<v Speaker 1>cheerful ones you might get from supermarkets, so there might

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<v Speaker 1>sort of go to ones. Now if I compare that

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<v Speaker 1>to the this is just the coal original beef sausages,

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<v Speaker 1>which are six fifty, so yes, a lot cheaper, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the ingredients, so they've got less. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got seventy percent beef, so similar amount, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more additives in there when I scan the list, although

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<v Speaker 1>they do not have the two fifties in their either,

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<v Speaker 1>which is positive. I think some food companies are taking

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But when I look lean at the nutritionals,

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<v Speaker 1>the fat is almost double, so sixteen percent fat and

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<v Speaker 1>over five grams eight percent saturated fat. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the peppercorn is superior. Not that they're low fat, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've got low saturated fat and they've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less fat overall than your traditional sausages at the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I had a really good look at Audi

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<v Speaker 1>sausages because I was catering for a large number of people,

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, their fat was up to twenty thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just too high. They're basically sticking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of poor quality meat in there. So the other ones

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<v Speaker 1>I do like, and both in coals and willise the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken sausages. The chicken sausages are seventy six six percent chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly high. And when you look at the fat

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<v Speaker 1>on them, again, similar to the peppercorn, they're low in

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<v Speaker 1>saturated fat overall and lower in total fat, although they

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<v Speaker 1>do contain a lot more additives. So the take home

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<v Speaker 1>message from this segment is sausages aren't great for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't do it more than once or twice a week.

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<v Speaker 1>In saying that, though, if you're getting a lean sausage

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<v Speaker 1>without night trates, you could easily have it once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the night trates you've got to be careful of.

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<v Speaker 1>So do a quick scan and you're looking for no

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<v Speaker 1>additions of the two fifty night trates on the ingredient list,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm looking for less than ten percent total

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<v Speaker 1>fat and less than three percent saturated and that is

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively healthy sausage compared to the cheap and cheer

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<v Speaker 1>four five six dollars tray options, which are upwards of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty percent fat.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll just quickly add so the night traits and

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<v Speaker 2>the night trites are two fifty two fifty one and

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<v Speaker 2>two fifty two on the labels, so there's certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>better option if it doesn't have the two fifties on

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<v Speaker 2>the label. However, the World Health Organization does consider process meats, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if they do contain nitrates or nitrites, but also if

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<v Speaker 2>they are smoked or cured, have added salts, preservatives, and

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<v Speaker 2>also the other thing that can increase the risk of

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<v Speaker 2>cancer is cooking on a very very high temperature, so

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<v Speaker 2>if you're sort of burning or charring the sausages as well,

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<v Speaker 2>this can then, they say, longer term, promote some of

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<v Speaker 2>that DNA damage in the colon, which can increase that

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<v Speaker 2>risk of val cancer long term. So it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>about the nitrites. So, as Susie said, it is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a better option, but it's not something we'd say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can serve up for dinner for the kids multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times a week, because you know, they are a cheaper,

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<v Speaker 2>more budget friendly option, but you still need to be

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<v Speaker 2>aware that, you know, the processed meat has other factors

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<v Speaker 2>involved in it, not just the two fifty I guess

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<v Speaker 2>additives in there as well, and it is also very

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<v Speaker 2>dose dependent as well, so they are saying that it's

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty grams of that sort of processed red meat,

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<v Speaker 2>so sausages, ham, salami, that kind of Devon Cabano type meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Grams of that a day, anything more than that increases

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<v Speaker 2>your risk of colorectal cancer. I think it's by about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent. So it is very dose dependent. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have sausages twice a week one week and then don't

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<v Speaker 2>have them for two weeks, you know, that risk sort

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<v Speaker 2>of flattens down that little bit as well. So it

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of that how often you have it. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, if you can try to choose better options,

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<v Speaker 2>that is certainly something that's going to help you out

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<v Speaker 2>from a health perspective long term.

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<v Speaker 1>True true true true. So yes, have a good look

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<v Speaker 1>at those nutritional labels, but there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are particularly good and worth spending a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of extra money on. And I should also say

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<v Speaker 1>that butcher sausage is traditionally not very lean, so people

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<v Speaker 1>will say I'll go to the butcher because they're better quality,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a little bit misleading because in

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, Butcher's sausages tastes great because they're hiring fat,

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<v Speaker 1>so you'll notice a lean sausage because it won't cool

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<v Speaker 1>because he's he on the barthecue. So I would argue

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<v Speaker 1>that the butcher's ones are generally not better. Don't cute

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<v Speaker 1>yourself into thinking that they're often a lot more, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot higher in fat so that tastes good. All right, Anne,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been in the dessert section and you sent me

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<v Speaker 1>through a nice little ice block, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to do it since it's going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>over into hot chocolate season pretty soon. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen these. This is the Peed's frosty fruits with fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent less sugar. Now, frosty fruits are delicious. They were

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<v Speaker 1>actually quite like calorie before, so having an option that's

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<v Speaker 1>lowan sugar is certainly appealing to reduce kids sugar intake

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<v Speaker 1>and get them off. They're super dupers, which I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say they love now. The first thing I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>about this is that they're nine dollars a box. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not insignificant for basically some fruit and water.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody pays that. Let's be honest, we wait till they

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<v Speaker 2>health for ues.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think I only buy them when they're health

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<v Speaker 1>priced for all of them, and I wouldn't pay nine

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for these because they are basically fruit and water.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pay to pay for ice cream. But nutritionally,

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<v Speaker 1>the ingredients is fruit juice thirty nine percent, a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of pineapple, orange passion, fruit water, glucose syrup sorbatoll So

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<v Speaker 1>they're using an alcohol. Sugar is the sweetener, a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more sugar, food acid, vegetable gum, and then some stevia

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<v Speaker 1>to make it sweet, which gives you an ice block

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<v Speaker 1>that contains only about seventy calories. It's got total carbohydrate

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen point one and seven point two grams of total sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would estimate that's about as third I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually reckon they've got about twenty grams of sugar

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<v Speaker 1>or four or five teaspoons, So this is just over

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<v Speaker 1>one teaspoon of sugar. Probably a delicious ice treat for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. So yeah, I would definitely buy these. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>buy them for young kids if I was having a party,

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<v Speaker 1>but I certainly wouldn't pay nine dollars for them. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>only pay four fifty. Did you try them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually really nice. So we were at NUSA, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you know NEWSID prices are not inexpensive, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were like, can we go out the ice

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<v Speaker 2>cream every day, you know, at the beach for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were sort of like, when I've gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>any money left in our bank account if we take

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<v Speaker 2>you up for Jelato every single day. So I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the shops that I found these, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>actually on dow. They were half price at four fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>It works out to me about fifty cents that ice block.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally can't beat that. I thought that was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very affordable, and I just bought one box at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously we were staying in a little holiday place

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to take them home. But the

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<v Speaker 2>kids loved them. They were so great after the beach,

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<v Speaker 2>like it gave them a bit of hydration. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 2>gave them a bit of sugar. But they've been running around,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the hot beach, in the hot sun

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of hours. Of course, very sunsafe sunscreen, hats,

0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.159
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. You know, they were hot, they were sweaty,

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.440
<v Speaker 2>they wanted some hydration. So these were a really good option.

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<v Speaker 2>They loved them. I had to bite at tillis. It

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<v Speaker 2>was quite tasty and you couldn't. I couldn't taste that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of artificially type taste. Sometimes you can taste in

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<v Speaker 2>different types of like lower sugar ice cream. So I

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<v Speaker 2>thought they were a really great option. They're also good

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<v Speaker 2>and free, and they do contain some real fruit as well,

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<v Speaker 2>So as an ice block option for kids, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're somewhere at the top of the lists, But like you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be waiting until they are on sale and

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<v Speaker 2>stocking up. But you do get eight for a pack

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<v Speaker 2>as well, which you know works out even if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to pay full price. It works out to be

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<v Speaker 2>only about a dollar or a dollar twenty a pop.

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<v Speaker 2>Will consider when you take kids out of ice cream

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<v Speaker 2>it's seven eight, nine ten dollars a serve.

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<v Speaker 1>How much is gelato? Like six seven dollars for a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny It.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like eight or nine dollars each for a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>So crazy price. Yeah, like they don't miss you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So these are I think a really really nice option.

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<v Speaker 2>It is sort of heading more into that cooler month

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, but if you do live somewhere hotter

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 2>light Queensland, it doesn't cool down as quickly as down south,

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<v Speaker 2>so we might still be able to get these in

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<v Speaker 2>from a month or two and the kids might enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are big thumbs up from me. They taste

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<v Speaker 2>really good and when you get them on sale. Really

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't make them cheaper at home, like fifty cents

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<v Speaker 2>a pop. It would not be worth making yourself at

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<v Speaker 2>home well in my opinion. Anyway, you know, I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty cent ice block any day.

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<v Speaker 1>True good find I like it very much. And again

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<v Speaker 1>you can give us a little education on collagen. The

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<v Speaker 1>question from our Design by Dieticians Instagram was how do

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<v Speaker 1>I choose the right type of collagen? Which is a

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<v Speaker 1>loaded question really because we're going to say our own,

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<v Speaker 1>but take you through the science of why renew our

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<v Speaker 1>collagen blend is nutritionally superior to others on the market

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<v Speaker 1>and why it's a good investment for your skin. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got five tips for our listeners to choose

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<v Speaker 2>the best type of collagen. You don't have to choose

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<v Speaker 2>the design by Dietitian brand, but you should follow these

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<v Speaker 2>tips because if you're going to invest money in a supplement,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that it's doing what it

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<v Speaker 2>says it will do, and you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you are getting the best quality thing because you're

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.520
<v Speaker 2>actually putting that into your body every single day, So

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that you know where it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from, where it's sourced. It doesn't actually have research

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<v Speaker 2>behind it, is it the most effective dose for the

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<v Speaker 2>result that I'm trying to get. So the first point

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<v Speaker 2>I will say is to make sure that it is

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<v Speaker 2>real collagen. So this means animal base. You cannot have

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<v Speaker 2>vegan collagen. Okay, if you are vegan, don't waste your money.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the bottom line here, because we don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>have any research to show that vegan type collagen actually

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<v Speaker 2>works or does anything from a skin or a join

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<v Speaker 2>to a ligament perspective, because vegan collagen doesn't actually contain collagen.

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<v Speaker 2>Side note, So the collagen that you should be trying

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<v Speaker 2>to source is animal base, and it will either be

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:52.440
<v Speaker 2>bovine type collagen or marine type collagen. So you basically

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<v Speaker 2>want animal based collagen. So if you are vegan, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not something I would spend my money on if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being honest. If you are going to take collagen, you

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<v Speaker 2>either want to source a bovine or a marine collagen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the second tip is to look for a hydrolyzed collagen.

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<v Speaker 2>So hydrolyzed collagen peptides, these are broken down into what

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<v Speaker 2>we call these like smaller peptide chains, so they dissolve

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<v Speaker 2>really well in terms of like putting it into drinks,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just is a bit easier for the body

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<v Speaker 2>to absorb as well. So this is the form hydrolyzed

0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 2>collagen peptides that is used predominantly in clinical research as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times people say to us, can

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<v Speaker 2>we add your collagen to hot ta your coffee? Yes,

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 2>it actually collagen dissolves better in a hot liquid than

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it does a cold liquid. So our preference is to

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 2>always put it into like a tea or a coffee

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 2>or blended into a smoothie, and we find that it

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>gets broken down a lot better as well. So make

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's animal based collagen, make sure it's hydrolyzed collagen peptides,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would always say to choose a strain

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<v Speaker 2>of collagen sort of like a probotic that has been

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<v Speaker 2>really studied. Okay, so not all collagen is the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of brands, I won't say a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say some brands which have evidence by them have

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<v Speaker 2>used strains of collagen that have specific research behind them.

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<v Speaker 2>So as an example, verasol collagen peptides is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the highest studied with multiple clinical research studies behind it

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 2>type of collagen on the market, and verasol is the

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>collagen that we use. It designed by dietitians. So a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these clinical research studies with using viasol collagen

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:27.199
<v Speaker 2>peptides have looked at things like skin elasticity, skin hydration, wrinkles,

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>collagen density, hair, skin nails, and that is why we

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>chose to use that particular patent form of collagen peptides,

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<v Speaker 2>so verasol. The other point I'll have is that vitamin

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<v Speaker 2>C is a really helpful addition as well, because if

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you are taking collagen and vitamin C together, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a few brands on the market that add that together,

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<v Speaker 2>and we do that at designed by dietitians, vitamin C

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.360
<v Speaker 2>plays a really key role in what we call collagen synthesis.

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 2>So actually taking your collagen with some vitamin C can

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 2>help uptake that and help the body to utilize that

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.640
<v Speaker 2>collagen and support the body's natural collagen production as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like to recommend collagen alongside vitamin C,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like we do with an iron supplement, like

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.120
<v Speaker 2>vitamin Z helps to uptake iron, same deal with collagen.

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<v Speaker 2>They can'd of work together almost how like calcium and

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 2>vitamin D work together to help improve the absorption as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And lastly, that consistency and the dose matter. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to take collagen, take it daily. Don't sporadically

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 2>take it once or twice a week when you remember,

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 2>because you're not really going to see any results. So

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<v Speaker 2>just like creating that consistent daily intake matters, and the

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>research really supports. If you're looking at collagen from a

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>skin health elasticity hydration perspective, you're looking at about three

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<v Speaker 2>to five grams a day daily. If you're looking at

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it from a joint health perspective, you're looking at about

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen grams a day. So if you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>for both, obviously you'd want the ten to fifteen grams

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a day. So it's sort of what are you utilizing

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.920
<v Speaker 2>collagen four? And then you need to take that consistently, right,

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is why we chose to use varisol collagen

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<v Speaker 2>with vitamin C as one of the most well researched

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 2>forms of collagen available. It is animal base. It's like

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 2>I said, it either has to be bovine or marine

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 2>based to be really effective. You want to make sure

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it has clinical research behind it. You want to have

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<v Speaker 2>an addition of vitamin C that's really important. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course you want to take the right clinical dose

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 2>of collagen as well. And I've seen some brands that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so there's twenty or thirty grams of collagen

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>in a serving, and again more is not better, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if the research shows us that three to five grams

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<v Speaker 2>a day is effective for skin health or ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen grams a day is effective for joint health, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking thirty grams a day, you're just buying way

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>more of that collagen from that brand. So to me,

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a marketing play. And again I think that buying

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>from a brand that has integrity, that understands the science

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and the clinical literature is really really important because we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to make our clients take thirty grams a

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>day when we know that for joint health ten grams

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 2>is adequate or for skin health three to five grams

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 2>a day is adequate. So I think really making sure

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>that you understand the types of collagen. How much to

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>take is probably going to be a good thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from your perspective and from a budgeting perspective longer term

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good Leyan, you're always are good with the science.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done, and have got the skin of an eight

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>year old girl with all the collagen that you're pumping.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all the collagen, not thirty grams ten grams a.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, all right. Well, that brings us to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the nutrition couch for another Wednesday. Please keep telling

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next Wednesday. Thanks for listening.