WEBVTT - MINI: Family Secrets

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<v Speaker 1>Question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking us Small and then on The Christian O'Connell Show

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<v Speaker 1>about family secrets. She found out Jason at a family funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife found out that her uncle worked for I Six.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, we always told he was an undercover cop.

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<v Speaker 1>All these secrets are amazing. This is an amazing one.

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<v Speaker 1>We found out after my mom passed away. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a codebreaker during the Second World War at Bletchley Park.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've all heard about what they did at Bletchie Plants,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible they cracked the codes. Never told a soul about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Not even my dad, her husband knew about it other

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<v Speaker 1>than that she worked during the war and it only

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<v Speaker 1>became released. It was then we found out about it

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<v Speaker 1>when the Official Secrets Act. A load of rare documents

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<v Speaker 1>came out as well backed it all up that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a senior codebreaker. Amazing. Yeah, Christian. When I was thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>I started getting messages on Facebook. I wonder how many

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<v Speaker 1>of you have found out about other family members through Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was thirty, started getting message on Facebook from

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<v Speaker 1>someone claiming to be my sister. Found out it was

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<v Speaker 1>completely true, Like Jack was saying earlier another family, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an amazing one. This feels like the plot to

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. In around nineteen thirty, my granddad died in

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<v Speaker 1>a trench he was digging out after being hit in

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<v Speaker 1>the head with a shovel accidentally by his best friend

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. The best friend went on to marry

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<v Speaker 1>and move in with my nan. Accident. Hey in quotation,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on with that, Jody, Good morning money, Good

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<v Speaker 1>morning Jody. So a family secret you found out.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom grew up with a single mum. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is back in mum's eighty four, so a long time

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<v Speaker 3>ago where that probably wasn't the norm. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>only once we put my grandmother into age care and

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<v Speaker 3>she handed over her documents. She thought her father had

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<v Speaker 3>been dead that whole time, and when she handed over

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<v Speaker 3>her documents, mum found divorce papers. But mom loved her

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<v Speaker 3>her mum so much that she never investigated. So we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if there's other family out there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. So her dad hadn't passed away, the divorced

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<v Speaker 1>and the mom tuld to just rub him out the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So it was back in the Second World War,

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<v Speaker 3>so she thought he had died in the war.

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<v Speaker 1>I do understand also why your mom didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything, especially when your mum's in a care home

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You just don't want to. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up all all that pain and shame.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess around it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, very well, very well. Could have been that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stigma of divorce at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our little mystery that's still to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And have you thought about looking into any more yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Jody, I certainly have, but I'm a bit like my mum.

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose I'm respecting her wishes. She like it's her father,

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<v Speaker 3>and she hasn't wanted to investigate, so I've left it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done any of those, you know, the genealogy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like the DNA testing and the ancestry.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we haven't, we haven't. I sort of think it's

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<v Speaker 3>mum's story. And if mum wanted to find out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would certainly support her in that and do whatever

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<v Speaker 3>I could. But she's obviously comfortable about it. And again

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<v Speaker 3>it's become like a little mystery in the family because

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<v Speaker 3>once so that the divorce papers were found and there

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<v Speaker 3>was a bit of a discussion, not with my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 3>but we think the immediate family, and that's the last

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<v Speaker 3>time it's been brought up. Hasn't been brought up here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. I think, you know, we're talking about sort

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<v Speaker 1>of family secrets you found out, but there are I

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<v Speaker 1>guess there are so many secrets that never ever get

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<v Speaker 1>found out that all families have. Really Yeah, that's incredible, Jody.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Jodi, thank you very much for sharing that

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<v Speaker 1>with us. No way, Well, Christian Connell's show podcast us email.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just remembered him someone who doesn't want to come

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<v Speaker 1>on here, but they found out their Italian grandfather who

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly had to move to Australia was a hit man

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<v Speaker 1>in the Matthew in Italy who came over there to

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<v Speaker 1>height from the authorities.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now worried about what happens to when my parents

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<v Speaker 1>passed away whenever. That is what I'm going to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's exotic as that just probably be

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<v Speaker 1>debts that have been bossed on to me. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible. All right, we're talking this morning about family

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<v Speaker 1>secrets you found out after I found out when I

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<v Speaker 1>was back in Britain a couple of weeks ago during

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<v Speaker 1>the Easter break that my dad trained to be a

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<v Speaker 1>priest for five months. Quit when you find out you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have a girlfriend, which I thought everyone everyone knew.

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<v Speaker 1>So family secrets? What did you find out? Nine four

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<v Speaker 1>one four three John, Good morning, Good morning, Christian, John,

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<v Speaker 1>what family secret did you find out?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Christian, I'm a man of fifty four years of

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<v Speaker 5>ig I had my father insisted when I was a boy.

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<v Speaker 5>He insisted that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've become a charlesand supporter. Yeah, otherwise I was to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep with the dog. When he died, I found a

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<v Speaker 2>calling wood jumper and several teeth in his wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>And a very old joke. Wow. Wait, that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>family six. Do you think he was a closet fan then?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Possibly?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, John, we're gonna have to go now. It's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of gaps and we're trying to piece them

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<v Speaker 1>together and have a conversation. John, We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>move on, But thank you for cool, Thank you question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>chat night, but we can with the show. But make

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<v Speaker 1>a note of that he's not Sylarity.

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<v Speaker 4>Roslyn, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, this is control or reset the show,

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<v Speaker 1>turn it on and off. We're back into it. Back

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<v Speaker 1>of the room, seeing Rosalind, what was the family secret

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<v Speaker 1>you found out?

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<v Speaker 4>So my family secret was my father found out when

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<v Speaker 4>he was nearly sixty that he was adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, you hear about this happening, don't you.

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<v Speaker 4>But it gets better that he had worked with his

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<v Speaker 4>little sister, his half sister, for ten years and didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know it was his sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. What do you mean work with them? What in

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<v Speaker 1>the same office.

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<v Speaker 4>Or he was a mechanic or doing refrigeration stuff. And

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<v Speaker 4>the place that she worked at was an old age

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<v Speaker 4>center and he used to go in there and fix

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<v Speaker 4>the appliances. And they got on very well and.

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<v Speaker 1>H not too wellwisey. Yes, well when they were going

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<v Speaker 1>they got on very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they became mates and then found out that it

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<v Speaker 4>was his little sister.

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<v Speaker 1>That is incredible. That is some story, isn't it, Roslyn.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and everyone in the family assumed that he knew

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<v Speaker 4>that he was adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, awesome. Thank you very much for sharing that with us. Rawson,

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<v Speaker 1>have a good day, thank you, Okay, bye. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Does everyone in the family, though, assume that he knows

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<v Speaker 1>it's your job, as the parents and the other people

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<v Speaker 1>in the family tell him. Families are odd. No one

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<v Speaker 1>told you that. I'm sure we mentioned it listening, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Good morning, Kathy. What's your family secretly found out?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, my grandfather, when my dad and his siblings were little,

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<v Speaker 6>went out to get the milk and didn't come home

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<v Speaker 6>for eleven years, and nobody knows where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the obviously sold out quite few of those milk

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<v Speaker 1>biles and he just kept looking.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well he didn't even come back with the milk.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't work out well, did it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he found his milk, right, He just disappeared.

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<v Speaker 6>For disappeared for eleven years, and nobody to this day

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<v Speaker 6>knows where he went or what happened, or if he

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<v Speaker 6>had another family. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>If I just disappeared for an hour, my wife's at

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<v Speaker 1>where have you been eleven years? I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>walk in and go, oh is everyone, where have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>In prison? An affair never came up in conversation. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we just never got around to it. Kathy, this is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm sure there is a family out there somewhere,

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<v Speaker 6>but nobody ever asked questions. We don't know whatever happened,

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<v Speaker 6>It just got pushed under the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>Just turn up one day after eleven years. Pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>baggage to sweep under the carpet. Wow, I can't stop

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, Kathy, that's an incredible one. Thanks you cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let's finally get Craig in. Craig welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Christian. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good great. So the family secretly found out what

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<v Speaker 1>was it?

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<v Speaker 7>I was the family secret my friend so pretty much

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<v Speaker 7>like I was adopted, and back in twenty sixteen got

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<v Speaker 7>a mysterious letter from the government asking me to reach

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<v Speaker 7>out with the government about so and so. Turned out

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<v Speaker 7>my mother decided to reach out and try and connect

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<v Speaker 7>with me, which I did, and pretty much found out

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<v Speaker 7>that the reason that happened was like that wasn't mind

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<v Speaker 7>our sister. They were talking about keeping secrets and stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>and my mum opened up to her that she had

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<v Speaker 7>a son. I'm forty seven this year, so obviously forty

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<v Speaker 7>seven years ago that she had a son. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>so we're all recently well six years ago now recently

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<v Speaker 7>all connected again with each other. But we all lived

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<v Speaker 7>in the same same city and stuff like that. She

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<v Speaker 7>kind of worked in Malvern and she had an aunty

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<v Speaker 7>who lived in Devin Meadows, which is kind of like

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<v Speaker 7>the area I'm from, so we always were in the

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<v Speaker 7>same vicinity, but it never knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what was it like the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>saw your your birth mother when you went to meet

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<v Speaker 1>up for the first time, What was that like?

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<v Speaker 5>It was?

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<v Speaker 7>It was pretty amazing. Look, I guess for her it

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<v Speaker 7>was kind of more emotionally. It's more emotional for her

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<v Speaker 7>because obviously holding a secret for forty forty you know

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<v Speaker 7>back then, well, I'm crapping mats with forty five. I

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<v Speaker 7>guess it was more like, like I don't know how

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<v Speaker 7>to more of a thing for her. Like to me,

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<v Speaker 7>I was just like, because I don't always known my

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<v Speaker 7>whole life and the guilt someone I guess could feel

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<v Speaker 7>like forty odd years later coming out with a secret

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<v Speaker 7>like that would be more of a shock to them.

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<v Speaker 7>But like my sister has always supported her in that

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<v Speaker 7>and like we like we're like now, like we've got

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<v Speaker 7>an incredible relationship together. So it all worked out quite well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you do hear some disaster stories, but this one

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<v Speaker 7>turned out really well. Like I'm I'm still in contact

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<v Speaker 7>with her now, mother's they coming up, obviously I might

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<v Speaker 7>go down and play a visit there for that time.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and how did your adoptive parents feel about

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<v Speaker 1>it all as well? It must have been hard for

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<v Speaker 1>them as well, because there always know that moment might happen,

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<v Speaker 1>might come along.

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<v Speaker 7>They've always been encouraging, Like ever since I was little,

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<v Speaker 7>that always I've always known and they were always encouraging.

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<v Speaker 7>My adopted mother was always like, if you ever need

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<v Speaker 7>any help finding finding your natural birth mother, that's we

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<v Speaker 7>can go go ahead. Yeah, but I've always felt the

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<v Speaker 7>support there. But yeah, pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh awesome, great, thank you very much for trusting and

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<v Speaker 1>sharing us with that one. It's amazing story.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Risian.

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