1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Question. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Talking us Small and then on The Christian O'Connell Show 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: about family secrets. She found out Jason at a family funeral. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: My wife found out that her uncle worked for I Six. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: For years, we always told he was an undercover cop. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: All these secrets are amazing. This is an amazing one. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: We found out after my mom passed away. She was 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: a codebreaker during the Second World War at Bletchley Park. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: If you've all heard about what they did at Bletchie Plants, 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: incredible they cracked the codes. Never told a soul about it, 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: Not even my dad, her husband knew about it other 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: than that she worked during the war and it only 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: became released. It was then we found out about it 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: when the Official Secrets Act. A load of rare documents 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: came out as well backed it all up that she 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: was a senior codebreaker. Amazing. Yeah, Christian. When I was thirty, 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: I started getting messages on Facebook. I wonder how many 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: of you have found out about other family members through Facebook. 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: When I was thirty, started getting message on Facebook from 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: someone claiming to be my sister. Found out it was 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: completely true, Like Jack was saying earlier another family, this 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: is an amazing one. This feels like the plot to 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: a movie. In around nineteen thirty, my granddad died in 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: a trench he was digging out after being hit in 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: the head with a shovel accidentally by his best friend 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: at the time. The best friend went on to marry 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and move in with my nan. Accident. Hey in quotation, 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: that's going on with that, Jody, Good morning money, Good 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: morning Jody. So a family secret you found out. 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: My mom grew up with a single mum. And this 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: is back in mum's eighty four, so a long time 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: ago where that probably wasn't the norm. And it was 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: only once we put my grandmother into age care and 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: she handed over her documents. She thought her father had 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: been dead that whole time, and when she handed over 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: her documents, mum found divorce papers. But mom loved her 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: her mum so much that she never investigated. So we 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: don't know if there's other family out there. 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: That's incredible. So her dad hadn't passed away, the divorced 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: and the mom tuld to just rub him out the picture. 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So it was back in the Second World War, 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: so she thought he had died in the war. 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I do understand also why your mom didn't want to 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: say anything, especially when your mum's in a care home 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: as well. You just don't want to. You just don't 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: want to bring up all all that pain and shame. 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: I guess around it all. 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very well, very well. Could have been that, 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: you know, the stigma of divorce at that time. 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so amazing. 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: That's our little mystery that's still to this day. 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. And have you thought about looking into any more yourself. 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: Jody, I certainly have, but I'm a bit like my mum. 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: I suppose I'm respecting her wishes. She like it's her father, 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: and she hasn't wanted to investigate, so I've left it alone. 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: Have you done any of those, you know, the genealogy 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: stuff like the DNA testing and the ancestry. 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: No, we haven't, we haven't. I sort of think it's 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: mum's story. And if mum wanted to find out, you know, 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: I would certainly support her in that and do whatever 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: I could. But she's obviously comfortable about it. And again 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: it's become like a little mystery in the family because 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: once so that the divorce papers were found and there 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: was a bit of a discussion, not with my grandmother, 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: but we think the immediate family, and that's the last 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: time it's been brought up. Hasn't been brought up here. 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I think, you know, we're talking about sort 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: of family secrets you found out, but there are I 70 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: guess there are so many secrets that never ever get 71 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: found out that all families have. Really Yeah, that's incredible, Jody. 72 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, Jodi, thank you very much for sharing that 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: with us. No way, Well, Christian Connell's show podcast us email. 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: I've just remembered him someone who doesn't want to come 75 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: on here, but they found out their Italian grandfather who 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: suddenly had to move to Australia was a hit man 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: in the Matthew in Italy who came over there to 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: height from the authorities. 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: Wow. 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm now worried about what happens to when my parents 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: passed away whenever. That is what I'm going to find out. 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it's exotic as that just probably be 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: debts that have been bossed on to me. But that 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: is incredible. All right, we're talking this morning about family 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: secrets you found out after I found out when I 86 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: was back in Britain a couple of weeks ago during 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the Easter break that my dad trained to be a 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: priest for five months. Quit when you find out you 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: can't have a girlfriend, which I thought everyone everyone knew. 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: So family secrets? What did you find out? Nine four 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: one four three John, Good morning, Good morning, Christian, John, 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: what family secret did you find out? 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: Well, Christian, I'm a man of fifty four years of 94 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: ig I had my father insisted when I was a boy. 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: He insisted that. 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: I've become a charlesand supporter. Yeah, otherwise I was to 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: sleep with the dog. When he died, I found a 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: calling wood jumper and several teeth in his wardrobe. 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: And a very old joke. Wow. Wait, that's a big 100 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: family six. Do you think he was a closet fan then? 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: Uh? Possibly? 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 103 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Okay, John, we're gonna have to go now. It's quite 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot of gaps and we're trying to piece them 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: together and have a conversation. John, We're gonna have to 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: move on, But thank you for cool, Thank you question. Yeah, 107 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: chat night, but we can with the show. But make 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: a note of that he's not Sylarity. 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: Roslyn, good morning. 110 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, this is control or reset the show, 111 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: turn it on and off. We're back into it. Back 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: of the room, seeing Rosalind, what was the family secret 113 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: you found out? 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: So my family secret was my father found out when 115 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: he was nearly sixty that he was adopted. 116 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, you hear about this happening, don't you. 117 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 4: But it gets better that he had worked with his 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: little sister, his half sister, for ten years and didn't 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: know it was his sister. 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Wow. What do you mean work with them? What in 121 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: the same office. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Or he was a mechanic or doing refrigeration stuff. And 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: the place that she worked at was an old age 124 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 4: center and he used to go in there and fix 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 4: the appliances. And they got on very well and. 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: H not too wellwisey. Yes, well when they were going 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: they got on very well. 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: Yes, they became mates and then found out that it 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: was his little sister. 130 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: That is incredible. That is some story, isn't it, Roslyn. 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone in the family assumed that he knew 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: that he was adopted. 133 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Wow, awesome. Thank you very much for sharing that with us. Rawson, 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: have a good day, thank you, Okay, bye. That's incredible. 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: Does everyone in the family, though, assume that he knows 136 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: it's your job, as the parents and the other people 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: in the family tell him. Families are odd. No one 138 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: told you that. I'm sure we mentioned it listening, Kathy, 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Kathy. What's your family secretly found out? 140 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 6: Okay, my grandfather, when my dad and his siblings were little, 141 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: went out to get the milk and didn't come home 142 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 6: for eleven years, and nobody knows where he was. 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, the obviously sold out quite few of those milk 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: biles and he just kept looking. 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well he didn't even come back with the milk. 146 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: Didn't work out well, did it? 147 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: I think he found his milk, right, He just disappeared. 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 6: For disappeared for eleven years, and nobody to this day 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 6: knows where he went or what happened, or if he 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 6: had another family. Nothing. 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: If I just disappeared for an hour, my wife's at 152 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: where have you been eleven years? I'm just going to 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: walk in and go, oh is everyone, where have you been? 154 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: In prison? An affair never came up in conversation. No, 155 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: we just never got around to it. Kathy, this is extraordinary. 156 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure there is a family out there somewhere, 157 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 6: but nobody ever asked questions. We don't know whatever happened, 158 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 6: It just got pushed under the carpet. 159 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Just turn up one day after eleven years. Pretty big 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: baggage to sweep under the carpet. Wow, I can't stop 161 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: thinking about this, Kathy, that's an incredible one. Thanks you cool, 162 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's finally get Craig in. Craig welcome to 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: the show. 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 7: Thank you, Christian. How you doing. 165 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm good great. So the family secretly found out what 166 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: was it? 167 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 7: I was the family secret my friend so pretty much 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 7: like I was adopted, and back in twenty sixteen got 169 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 7: a mysterious letter from the government asking me to reach 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 7: out with the government about so and so. Turned out 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 7: my mother decided to reach out and try and connect 172 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 7: with me, which I did, and pretty much found out 173 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 7: that the reason that happened was like that wasn't mind 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 7: our sister. They were talking about keeping secrets and stuff, 175 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 7: and my mum opened up to her that she had 176 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 7: a son. I'm forty seven this year, so obviously forty 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 7: seven years ago that she had a son. And yeah, 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 7: so we're all recently well six years ago now recently 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 7: all connected again with each other. But we all lived 180 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 7: in the same same city and stuff like that. She 181 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 7: kind of worked in Malvern and she had an aunty 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 7: who lived in Devin Meadows, which is kind of like 183 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 7: the area I'm from, so we always were in the 184 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 7: same vicinity, but it never knew. 185 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what was it like the first time you 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: saw your your birth mother when you went to meet 187 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: up for the first time, What was that like? 188 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: It was? 189 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 7: It was pretty amazing. Look, I guess for her it 190 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 7: was kind of more emotionally. It's more emotional for her 191 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 7: because obviously holding a secret for forty forty you know 192 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 7: back then, well, I'm crapping mats with forty five. I 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 7: guess it was more like, like I don't know how 194 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 7: to more of a thing for her. Like to me, 195 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 7: I was just like, because I don't always known my 196 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 7: whole life and the guilt someone I guess could feel 197 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 7: like forty odd years later coming out with a secret 198 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 7: like that would be more of a shock to them. 199 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 7: But like my sister has always supported her in that 200 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 7: and like we like we're like now, like we've got 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 7: an incredible relationship together. So it all worked out quite well. Yeah, 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 7: Like you do hear some disaster stories, but this one 203 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 7: turned out really well. Like I'm I'm still in contact 204 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 7: with her now, mother's they coming up, obviously I might 205 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: go down and play a visit there for that time. 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, and how did your adoptive parents feel about 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: it all as well? It must have been hard for 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: them as well, because there always know that moment might happen, 209 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: might come along. 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 7: They've always been encouraging, Like ever since I was little, 211 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 7: that always I've always known and they were always encouraging. 212 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 7: My adopted mother was always like, if you ever need 213 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: any help finding finding your natural birth mother, that's we 214 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 7: can go go ahead. Yeah, but I've always felt the 215 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 7: support there. But yeah, pretty crazy. 216 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh awesome, great, thank you very much for trusting and 217 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: sharing us with that one. It's amazing story. 218 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 7: Thanks Risian. 219 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: This is the Christian o'connells Show podcast