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Speaker 2: It's really about Yes, it's been a long year, but

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Speaker 2: what can you do to make it fun? What can

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Speaker 3: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 3: wants answers now and now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the stars of our show, my mum and dad.

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Speaker 2: Hello the stop to Justin coll Somelim Here with my

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Speaker 2: wife and co host missus Happy Families.

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Speaker 1: Kylie.

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Speaker 2: I'm the author of six books about raising happy families.

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Speaker 2: And the kids are upstairs right now and they're not happy.

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Speaker 1: But we've made this commitment to do a podcast, Kylie.

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Speaker 1: What have we done?

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Speaker 3: They say the show must go on? So the show

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Speaker 3: is going on.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I don't know if the children. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if the house is going to be okay.

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Speaker 1: Well we finish this, don't worry about the children. Just

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Speaker 1: make sure the house is intact. Well the other end,

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Speaker 2: But it's what they're going to do to each other

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Speaker 2: into the house, so let's let's it's funny that this

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're fine. We've just got to put the

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Speaker 1: got one. You know what it's like when one.

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Speaker 3: Has a few embers still simmering though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what one kid tries to be the parent

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Speaker 1: Parent, they start fighting.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's what we're dealing with in our house today

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Speaker 2: as we dive this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some good news.

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Speaker 2: We asked a few days ago if you could for

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Speaker 2: Christmas give us a five star rating and review on

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, and Chris three eight nine zero did that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Chris titled the review easy listening and said the best

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Speaker 2: thing about this podcast is that the information is easy

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's.

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Speaker 2: A clever way of saying they're not very smart. It's

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Speaker 2: not very complicated. But anyway, we give easy to digest information.

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Speaker 2: We thank thank you for that. Chris also said that

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Speaker 2: the hosts seem real. I can pinch you look, but

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Speaker 2: you are one hundred percent and we share expert information

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Speaker 2: with practical examples. As a schoolteacher and parent, I'm lapping

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Speaker 2: up the content. We so appreciate that five star rating

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Speaker 2: and review. Chris, thank you for doing that. Now we've

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Speaker 2: also had some feedback, and that's what the topic of

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Speaker 2: our podcast is today, based on this feedback from Brooks,

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Speaker 1: That don't roll your eyes. Brook just realized. I just realized.

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Speaker 2: Brooks said, please call me Jane or Jane Doe if

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Speaker 2: sorry Brook. Jane, Jane Brook. There's lots of Brooks in

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Speaker 2: and we'll call Brook Jane and everything will be fine.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you might just want to censor what you're reading

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Speaker 2: thing here. So basically, what Jane has said is that

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Speaker 2: it's been a really tough year with COVID. Jane loves

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Speaker 3: her name is Jane.

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Speaker 3: This year has been one of the most difficult years

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Speaker 1: Take six weeks off.

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Speaker 2: While you have six weeks off, not too many employeers

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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast with a time

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Speaker 3: poor parent who just wants answers now, And we have

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Speaker 2: You've probably spent a lot more time with the children

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so especially since we can't go away on

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully, Jane, you have found these tips to be

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Speaker 3: Well, tomorrow we're going to be talking about some more

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