1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: land on which we record this podcast. There were innerie people. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: This land was never seated, always was, always will be. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: We are the pride of Queens. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: You need to start again, you need to say, I mean, 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: we just lost fifty percent of the listeners. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: No, no, we haven't. No, we haven't, Jelly, because we're 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: going to a decider. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 4: All right, I'm taking it. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to too Good Sports. It sports news 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: told differently. I'm haby Jermy and Georgie Tunney is off ahead. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: I've lost my mind because we wrote them off. They're 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: flat track bullies over in the West, usually the Blues, 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: but the Morons have done it. They've forced a decider 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: in state of origin DCE out Tommy did and in 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: who knows if that was why they did it. But 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: my god, also Western Australia sought your weather out. 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Oh I can't, I can't tell me, for this is 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: a bit of a spoiler to our chat ahead, dear listeners. 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: But I have concocted an axis of evil from the 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: night and an axis of good from the night, and 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: we'll see where Perth weather falls in that later on, 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: but before we kick off our origin chat, we have 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: so much other sport to talk to you about as well. 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: Good sport, bad sport. Tell me what have you got 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: for us? So this is a little bit belated because 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. We had the Prime Minister on the 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: podcast last week, so I didn't get a chance to 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: talk about my good sport bad sport. 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: Then also elbow massive good sport listeners. He was here 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: for two hours. 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, he really was. 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: And if you listen back to the EPP you can 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: tell where Georgie and I are like, we really need 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: to move this on, and he keeps going, keeps going, 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: and we only want to move it on because we're 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: very aware that I don't know, if you haven't seen 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 3: him in the last couple of weeks, he's been brushed 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: by Trump, there's been different things going on in his life. 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: We were like, he's been and he was the one 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: that was like, no, have we got more to chat about? 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: Let me let me about gi. Yeah, continue chat was 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: even warmer. 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: He tried to find videos of himself kicking a Sharon. 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right for us to enjoy and Albo 47 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: come back. 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: We'll see him find him. 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: Definitely, he's a friend of the pod. Honest he's a 50 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: friend of the pod. 51 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: But something that we unfortunately did have to glaze over 52 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: because Ah needed to give the PM ample times was 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: the French Open and what was unbelievable results in two parts. Firstly, 54 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: the men's final, Yes, was one of the greater games 55 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: of tennis that you'll ever see. As much as I 56 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: don't know about the dubious drug sing, I love Yannick Sinner. 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: It's hard not to like him because he's a runway model. 58 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: Jelmy, it's because he looks like he modeled for Berbury 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: in the early two thousands. 60 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: No, it's honestly's Eddie Redman life. 61 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: He is the opposite of Arena Sabolenka in that he 62 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: is so humble when he loses. Yes, and again, if 63 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: you squint at Corlos Alcarez, you're like, oh, still. 64 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: A Spaniard winning on clay? Is that hello? Hello Dahl? 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 4: Is that you? 66 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: But I love the stat that they were literally the 67 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: exact same age to the day as when Nadahle won 68 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: his fifth Grand Slam, as when Alcoraz one to the 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: day to the day, and again, I love tennis people 70 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: because they're nuffies and they find these things out. I mean, 71 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: who even knows that? So firstly Alcaraz or Sinner. 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Oh al Choraz. Actually I do quite like Sinner. But 73 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: in terms of watching I have had the pleasure of 74 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: watching both of those athletes on court in the stands, 75 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: and Yannick's just a little bit boring because he's so good, 76 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: like he's so good and he like he just but he. 77 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: He's very lark. 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: He's very long limbed, very. 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Long limbs, so I'm never seeing any volleys. I'm never 80 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: really seeing him straight like Alcaz because he gets his 81 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: arms out. I was actually with you and you're like, wow, 82 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: guilty enjoy he's running around, you know what I mean. 83 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: It's a little bit more high stakes. There's a bit 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: of we really enjoy it. You know. 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that. So yeah, I am team Alcoraz. 86 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Neither of those my good sports okay, but sorry. My 87 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: good sport though, is cocoa gol And this is why 88 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: we love her. So did you know this? This is 89 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: leaning into fun fact territory. The trophy they hold up 90 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: at the French Open and that they kiss and all 91 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: of that. 92 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: They don't get to keep what. Let's I just want 93 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 4: to fridge joke in or rolling garows. And this is 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: a trophy that you guys see, the one that we 95 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: teake pitchers with, depressed with and all that. But actually, 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: if you don't get to take this home, this stays 97 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: with the tournament. And I'm gonna show you, guys the 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: one can take home. 99 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: It's a lot smaller. So that's just the one we 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: take home. 101 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 4: It's like many replica of the triphy. And yeah, I 102 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: guess to compare. 103 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: It's really small. 104 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: Reference She's put it next to a bottle of water 105 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 5: and it's all like small. Sorry, I've got distracted by 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: the private She's just casually on a paj which of 107 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: calls you. 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 6: Are like, so they may count with the trophy. Tennis players, 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 6: they kiss it lot, they look it, they do all 110 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: the things they have to give it back. Sorry, who's 111 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: licking and never. 112 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: Try it with a coffee cut again. 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: She's on a private jet, so I don't feel so 114 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: sorry for her, and the fact that she's chosen to 115 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: film this on the private jet also sliding scale. 116 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: But I'm with you in good sport territory because Coco 117 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: is showing us what life is like as one of 118 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: the athletes. This is the next gen, this is what 119 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: they do and this I adore her for it. She also, 120 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: fun fact, forgot all of her rackets in the first 121 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: game of that tournament. 122 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: You had to remember that. She walked unto the court 123 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: and is like, ah, God, damn it, this. 124 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: Bag is empty. I didn't bring any rackets. 125 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: Guys, help help me. Do you know who wouldn't do that? 126 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: Alchoriz because he counts them five times and put them 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: into numerical order. 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: But how's that? 129 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's amazing. And also this wasn't planned, 130 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: but my good sport bad sport for this week is 131 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: a little bit of both. And it's also tennis related. 132 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, god, we're just absolutely telepathic. So from the 133 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: French Open, we moved to the US Open, and the 134 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: US Open is doing something new with its doubles draw, 135 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: and that is essentially making it more palatable to the 136 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: casual tennis fan. They're making it shorter, and they're opening 137 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: up the qualification of who is deemed to be a 138 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: doubles pairing, so it's going to be based on your 139 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: singles ranking. So just let that sink in because there 140 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: are professional doubles players who singles ranking not so good, 141 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: So there's going to be a cap for. 142 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: That, which at one point was ASHPARTI by the way. 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So the reigning champions in the women's doubles 144 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: of the US Open, based on their singles ranking technically 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: may not even qualify for the doubles draw of this 146 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: year's tournament because their singles ranking is so low. But 147 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: they won the doubles last year, if that makes sense. However, 148 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: as a sports says Koreas doubles players, that's the thing. 149 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: So as a sports lover, I think it's a bad sport. 150 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: As a tennis fan, there's talk of one of the 151 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: pairents being an aaomia saka and. 152 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: Curious, which also you want to pick two pole of 153 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: personalities like I'm just here because I love tennis, okay, 154 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: and Nick's like fuck everyone? 155 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: So how does that actually is that tennis? What I'm 156 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: here in my basketball shorts? 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's both good sport and bad sport, because 158 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: I do think all sports are looking at how they 159 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: can be more palatable to an audience, i e. 160 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: Trying to do their T twenty version. 161 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: They are, and they're changing this game. They're not going 162 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: to advantage points, They're making their actual sets shorter. It's 163 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: a it's going to be rapid fire. 164 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: Ten And if you've ever gone to tennis, especially at 165 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: night session, and been like it is three am, the 166 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: players look tired. Everything about this needs to be quicker 167 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: that actually checks out. I mean, I I can't wait 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: to watch. I love the US Open anyway. I think 169 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: the crowd are awesome. There's always someone sculling something. 170 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and there's always a fight the celebrity, the 171 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: tennis player and someone in the crowd. 172 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: It's amazing. And the celebrity spotting is I'm I mean 173 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: you don't. I mean I like the wimbled and fashion 174 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: like I love watching how To Cratic. Everyone goes to 175 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: have their strawberry and cream. But we love the US 176 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: Open and it's just one of those slams that, for 177 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: whatever reason, I think it just is a bit rock star. 178 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: And it sounds like they're trying to make the doubles 179 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: match it. 180 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: A little bit rockstar. The performance of the Queensland Maroons. 181 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: There it is. 182 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: And by that I mean at times poetic, at times, 183 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: our stresses we get into it. 184 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 7: Next it means a lot ah to be able to 185 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 7: captain this team and walk out, sorry run out with 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 7: his team and the obviously the pressure and and all 187 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 7: the criticism that Billy Slater's been getting for us and 188 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 7: we're this guyd We played for him tonight. He deserves everything. 189 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 7: He loves Queensland, loves his group and I'm as proud 190 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 7: of our boys to turn up for him because there's 191 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 7: been a lot of speculations in media and we need 192 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 7: to turn up for our coach to nine and we 193 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 7: fucking did. 194 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: Wefen did Yes. That was the Queensland skipper, Cameron Munster 195 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: in his first match as the Queensland skipper and he's 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: got one hundred percent success right and he was Player 197 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: of the match. Well done sir. 198 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: He also done one hundred percent success rate at swearing 199 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: in the postmatch as captain. Tell me you're not used 200 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: to making a captain address without telling me. It's one 201 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: of you boomed out over the stadium and you drop 202 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: an FM. 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: It's one of I mean, we're going to go on 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: a tangent already de listener, but it's one of my 205 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: favorite things. When you compare like a rugby league Grand 206 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: final and an Ossie rules Grand Final and you do 207 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: the lap of honor with whatever team has won. You've 208 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: got that poor reporter there being like how many times 209 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: am I just going to have to ignore the fact 210 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: that you have sworn on national television and in rugby 211 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: league it's literally every second word in Ossie rules you 212 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: might get one and. 213 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: They're like, well, like, sorry, didn't me do? 214 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: Sorry? But yes origin two we are off to a 215 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: decider twenty six points to twenty four Queensland over New 216 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: South Wales, and I tell you what, I lost years 217 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: of my life. 218 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: They decided just not to score. 219 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Jeremy sent me in teggs halfway through 220 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: the first half, which. 221 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: Was nobody make any sudden movements because we've been here, 222 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 6: except it was the Broncos, and I literally said to you, 223 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 6: I'm like, well this is done, congratulations. 224 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Next minute the Panthers decided to panther and when Nathan 225 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: Clear is involved, you just never know. You just never 226 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: And they were coming Georgie, but they're kicking game. 227 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: Let them down again. 228 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh I score more tries and lose. 229 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: What a fantastic segue by you, Because I did tease 230 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: at the start of this podcast. I had an access 231 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: of evil and an access of good. Now this is 232 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: obviously through the eyes of a one eyed Queensland are 233 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: so my access of evil? Number one? The Bunker, what 234 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: are you doing that decision late in the game, which 235 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: nearly cost the Morons the win of Kayl and Ponger 236 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: knocking on which it wasn't the ball went backwards? 237 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: Are you blind? Are you blind? Bunker? You're on the list. 238 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: That's number one another axis. Angus Crichton and Stephen Crichton. 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: You're great players. I've had enough of you. Stop being 240 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: so good for your South Wales. Okay, access ofero point 241 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: three Perth weather, tell me what was happening? 242 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: People think that Perth is sunshine all the time. When 243 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: it rains, it buckets. 244 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: I will say though, for this fifty seven thousand people 245 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 2: that were there to watch in horrific conditions like it 246 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: would have tested my allegiance to even day night. I 247 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: was like, this is desired, I'm going to even see. 248 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: But the spectacle itself was great, like this was a 249 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: thrilling origin game. 250 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: This speaks more largely to my opinion about sport. 251 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: It starts so goddamn late, Oh my god, and AFL 252 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: I haven't. 253 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: Seen and this is lifting behind the veil. So two 254 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: good sports listeners. If you could keep it between us, 255 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: that'd be awesome. I haven't seen the end of a 256 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: football match this year. 257 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: Last night included. I have small children that wake up 258 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: at all hours. If I get to nine o'clock, I'm like, 259 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: the eye starts drooping. I start going like, I actually 260 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: AFL goes for four hundred hours. 261 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: It does, it really does. 262 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: And then last night, obviously because it's of the time difference, 263 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: they don't start until eight o'clock. Wolf Mother's playing and 264 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, this should be the second half. I'm so tired. 265 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Where is that and where is the stated? 266 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Someone someone begin I know, I know, it is late. 267 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: It is really really late, and especially for those spectacle 268 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: pieces like even the NRAL. 269 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Finals together later and later and later and later. 270 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is difficult. It is totally difficult. And for them, 271 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 2: though at least in Perth it was earlier. Yeah technically 272 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: so maybe that's why they had such a good turnout. 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: But it I think as an advertisement for the game, 274 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: it was a good one for rugby league. I think 275 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: it passed. I think it passed, which brings me to 276 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: my axis of good in the twenty six to twenty 277 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: four point victory for the Maroons. 278 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary's dodgy hamstring. 279 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: I was good, and yet he still had that beauty 280 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: full try or he ducked and weaved. 281 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: I was awake for that. 282 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: He was taking off him. He can find space though, 283 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh he can find space. That was like a little 284 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: warning bellot. I thought, it's. 285 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: Happening again, and you're also taking do you know who 286 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: you shouldn't. 287 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Let's sneak up on you Nathan Clary. 288 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, because he was injured. Is the only way that 289 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: the Queensland Morons did not lose that in those final moments, because. 290 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: You didn't win, you didn't lose. 291 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: We didn't lose. We held on. We held on because 292 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary's hams. To everyone's like, do you actually think 293 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: he's injured? I was like, can you see the full 294 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: layers of strapping on that right hamstring. I mean, I'm 295 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: just putting it out there that I think maybe it's 296 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: a bit tight, and that is a great thing for 297 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: Queensland fans. My other access point in the axis of good, 298 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: the kicking hex continues. So from game one, Nathan Cleary 299 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: could not kick anything. Zach Lomax came in kicked a couple, 300 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: but they have not been able to convert their tries. 301 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: That continued last night. You were right, Jelmy. 302 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: New South Wales scored five triest the year four. 303 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something they really do need to look at 304 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: because it cost them the game last night. And then 305 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: my other access point, Tommy did and he had to 306 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: be put in as the halfback. Billy Slader has copped 307 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 2: a lot of criticism about that, the dumping of the 308 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: Queensland captain daily Cherry Evans. Tommy did and repaid that 309 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: play last night. He was very, very good, very strong. 310 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm excited for the next years that we will see 311 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: him in the Morons. 312 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: Jesse, and you mentioned the fact that DC was dropped, 313 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: and I think this began what was not unprecedented, but 314 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: a continuation of the. 315 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: Criticism that we saw leveled at Billy Slater. 316 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: And what I do know about Queenslanders is their parochial 317 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: and they're used to winning Georgia. 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: Is that fair? That's a fair statement, very fair. So 319 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: they're going in an unusual. 320 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: Form slump and by that I mean they might have 321 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: lost three in a row. What I heard of that 322 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: gets you sacked, though he does get so all of 323 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: a sudden there is this pressure cooker of comments and 324 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: it's almost like who can say the most outlandish thing 325 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: and who can make the biggest headline. And that's when 326 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: we saw a former Blues champion and Aaron Woods come 327 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: out in the media and use a particular term that 328 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: I have to be said, it's used in sporting circles 329 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: more than it is anywhere else, and it's personal because 330 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: you can't come out and call someone a grub without 331 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: making comment on who they are. And this was the 332 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: hot take that then blew up in the NRL circles. 333 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: Let's have a listen. 334 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 8: You watch these blokes up north and they say they 335 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 8: don't get it, we don't get origin, and they use 336 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 8: this pick and stick mentality. Well, really, you've just turned 337 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 8: on your skipper. I want to see the real Billys 338 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 8: later come out the grub that we know of, because 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 8: this is a bloke had they got six weeks suspension 340 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 8: of luck at over. 341 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Someone. 342 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 8: Oh he's such a nice bloke. Well mate, you've lost. 343 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 8: You won your first two series as coach, you've lost 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: last series. You picked the side that we all expecting. 345 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 8: So I was win thirteen plus luckily thee didn't play well. 346 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 8: You go on in another game if you lose this 347 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 8: second series, is that meaning going to get sacked because 348 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 8: Kevin Wald's got sacked up the two series losses and 349 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 8: he only coached for Yeah. 350 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: I mean that's personal. Yes, there's no there's no other 351 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: way to look at that. 352 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think so, and you are 353 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: right Jellmy. 354 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: I mean I like Aaron woods He was an excellent 355 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: stalwart for the New South Wales Blues and the West 356 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: Tigers and the Canterbury Bulldogs during his playing career. But 357 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: part of your role when you are a commentator and 358 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: get we feel this pressure as well, is to make 359 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: pretty strong statements to get traction and to get eyes 360 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: on you and to get followers and to build the 361 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: narrative around certain games. So Woodsy has completely lent in there. 362 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Did he cross the line? 363 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: I think so? And I think you and I we 364 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: play in this world. I'm primarily a sports commentator. You 365 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: obviously we work in sport here, but obviously you work 366 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: across other things as well. And I think we are 367 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: seeing more more than ever because of the saturation in 368 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: the marks of people having hot takes on sport, this 369 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: need to one up or be better. And also I 370 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: would say having a lens across American sport. You've got 371 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: Steven a Smith who's literally at war with Lebrones and 372 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: the two of them are talking about the fact that 373 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: they would have a punch up and that's all adds 374 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: to the fodder. So I think there's this idea that 375 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: you can be antagonistic and there's no limit on where 376 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: that can be. We've seen that Caine Corns was actually 377 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: banned from the North Melbourne rooms and seven weren't allowed 378 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: in the room's pregame or post game, which I will 379 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: be on the record. From what I've met of Caine personally, 380 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: he's only ever been delightful to me. I know that 381 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: he works really hard and consumes more footy than anyone. 382 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: But what he said about Harry Sheesel essentially stats padding 383 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: and he called it sheaesel ball. Once you start applying 384 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: personal nicknames to things like grub or sheaesel ball, it 385 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: does become immensely personal, and so it gets to a 386 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: point where it's like you're just doing your job, but 387 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: you're being unkind doing it, and there are going to 388 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 3: be repercussions for that. 389 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: And I think those repercussions sometimes aren't they're not your intention, 390 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: but regardless of that, they kind of become your responsibility 391 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: because you have said that, right, Like we don't know. 392 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: Like grub for me is a word that I toss 393 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: around at the television all the time. It's watching rugby league. 394 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: You say grub writting rugby league? Yeah, watching is it 395 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: a rugby league? Because I've never said grub in our 396 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: In our podcast with Ryan Hoffman, I was like, Queens 397 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Eye needs more grub, like we the sentiment of. 398 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: I use the term grub. 399 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: I was watching the line kicks and it was Simon 400 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: and Pumba looking for some grub. Because I've never thought 401 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: about it in any I'm trying to think, I'm like 402 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: grub when would I ever? 403 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: And I'm like, they're going to rustle up some grub and. 404 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 6: You know how they're very see that they look like 405 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 6: that is the only reference because grub isn't necessarily an 406 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 6: AFL T. 407 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: It's a very rugby league term, right, but there's a 408 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 2: way in which it is used. I use it as 409 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: a compliment a lot of times, Like I was calling 410 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: for Queensland to be grubby going into the second game 411 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: versus the first because I didn't say I didn't see 412 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: them showing enough mungrel. Yeah, they didn't have that. They 413 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: were missing that little bit of fight where it goes 414 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: into different territory there with Woodsy is you know, he 415 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily know what's going on with Billy Slater right now. 416 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: Billy's taken personal issue with that term, because you're right, 417 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: it's the pressure cooker. It's just the pressure that keeps 418 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: amping up. 419 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: And there was a gap between the statement there by 420 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 3: Aaron Woods and what Billy Slater says here, and so 421 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: Billy Slater has had time to consider this response, and 422 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: I think you can tell that in what he says. 423 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: Let's have a bit of a listen to what Billy 424 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: Slater says when he was asked about these comments. 425 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 5: Billy, you've been called a grunt by Aaron Woods. 426 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 9: Were you surprised by that? 427 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 10: And how did you will see it? 428 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 11: When you hold a position in the media in our game, 429 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 11: I feel that's a privilege and with that privilege comes 430 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 11: a responsibility. I sit in that position most weeks, and 431 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 11: you amplify your voice to millions of people, you're not 432 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 11: talking to your mates in the public. 433 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 12: Now. 434 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 11: I know Aaron Woods. I actually ran into him about 435 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 11: three or four weeks ago at a footy game and 436 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 11: he didn't voice that opinion. Then he actually brought his 437 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 11: son over to introduce him to me. When you degrade 438 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 11: someone personally in a derogatory manner, you probably don't deserve 439 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 11: one of those privileged positions that you were all in. 440 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 11: That we're all in. You don't know what people are 441 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 11: going through, and although I might be able to handle it, 442 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 11: the next person mightn't be. Maybe our last coach didn't. 443 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 11: I believe the character of a person is judged more 444 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 11: on what they say about people and how they treat 445 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 11: people than what an individual says to create attention about someone. 446 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: Strong words there, emotional words from Billy Slater. He does 447 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: make mention there to former Queensland State of Origin coach 448 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: Paul Green, who was a legend of rugby league who 449 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: died by suicide a couple of years ago, was suffering 450 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: with CT Now Billy has come out since making that 451 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: statement and apologize because he didn't mean to draw the 452 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: connection between Paul Green's death and potentially poor mental health 453 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: based on negative comments in the media. He's made that apology. 454 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Paul Green's family has accepted that. Yes, so we're going 455 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: to leave that there. But what that statement from Billy, 456 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: it's very strong, very strong, and I think he's well 457 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: within his rights to make those comments and make that 458 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: response to Woodsy. I mean, we're seeing if you are 459 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: going to say something and have your hot take, you 460 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: need to be able to take the response to. 461 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: And also, for whatever reason, and you and I have 462 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: both witnessed this, there's this weird phenomenon that happens with 463 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: some people where they will say to a camera something 464 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: they would never say if the person was present, Yes, 465 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: which for me feels like such a weird phenomenon because 466 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: not only that person's normally going to hear, millions of 467 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: others might like it's weird that you would be more 468 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: las a fair when talking to such an audience, and 469 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: perhaps it's because they don't connect with I often find 470 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: people get more nervous in a room of a thousand 471 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: people than talking down a barrel where there'll be a 472 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 3: million there. Yes, Like there's a different energy about it, 473 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: and you watch your words differently. So that's a bit 474 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: that got meet the fact that he's like, well, he 475 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 3: obviously doesn't think I'm a grub, to the point where 476 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: he goes and gets his son yes and says, come 477 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: and meet the great Billy Slater. And I think the 478 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: other thing is he took on everyone's favorite song. 479 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: Everyone loves Billy Slater. 480 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: It's true. It's very very true, including new South Welshman 481 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: like friend of the Pot Ryan Hoffman. I mean, he 482 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: was very, very obvious on the pod about how much 483 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: he loves Billy Slater. In light of his former teammate 484 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Aaron Woods's comments, he took to Instagram and said, I 485 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: get it, it's origin and being a blue we hate Queensland, 486 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: but this is a rubbish take by Woodsey. One hundred 487 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: percent question Bill selections his tactics, et cetera, but call 488 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: on mc grubb is just rubbish clickbait. 489 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: Billy's later it was also in his bridal party. There's 490 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: probably that later you're taken on one of mine. 491 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: I wear blue, but he's my own. But you still 492 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: can't take on Billy. 493 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: And I think so I post I re shared that 494 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 3: clip of Billy because I deeply feel that if you 495 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: are going to be a media exactly what he said 496 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: there's a responsibility and a privilege to it where you, 497 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: I think, need to permeate a way that you hope 498 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: your kids would talk. Yeah, in the same way that 499 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: we say to athletes, whether you like it or not, 500 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: people look up to you, whether you like it or not, 501 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: kids in particular, but people consume the way that you talk. 502 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: And there is a way that you can be critical 503 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: and very strong in your criticism, but not be personal 504 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: and unkind. 505 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 13: Yes. 506 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: And I feel like the personal and unkind is the 507 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: ones that blow up. It's that shock jock factor. 508 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: It's also driven by the media as well, though Billy 509 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: is only saying that because he's been directly asked the media. 510 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: He's not there calling that press conference here he had 511 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: to take on Aaron. 512 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: You're telling me Channel seven don't love Cane Corns for 513 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: taking hot takes. Yes, that's why he's in that pass. 514 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: But that's why they have a job as well. Exactly, 515 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: they are doing their job. Yeah, and we see that 516 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: on a larger scale again, used terms shock jock. There's 517 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: a million faces that come to mind that have done 518 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: so well in media by having those extreme takes. And 519 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: for mine, I'm like, I wonder how much you actually 520 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: believe in your extreme take or you want to just 521 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: lean into the caricatur. 522 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: But that's neither here nor there. 523 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: But I think in this circumstance, when we're talking about 524 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: comments in sports media, there has to be a level 525 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: of responsibility to it. And bizarrely this has all led 526 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: to a galvanizing of the morons going. And you heard 527 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: that there with Munster essentially going. You took on one 528 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: of ours and so I wanted to play for my coach. 529 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And he had wonderful words to say in 530 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: the post match press conference backing that up. 531 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 10: Okay, I've heard you interviewed after the game on the fields, 532 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 10: but quite emotionally, we have doing it for a billion 533 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 10: sort of the what he's made to the last forty 534 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 10: eight hours and the pressure have the last few games. 535 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 10: What do it means to you played with him being 536 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 10: coached by him? How much did that galvanize the team? 537 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, when we've got jabs or blokes in the media, 538 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 12: having got your coach and like, at the end of 539 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 12: the day, he's he's our coach and he's done everything 540 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 12: he can and tick the boxes for us, and we 541 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 12: didn't perform for him in Game one and he got 542 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 12: a lot of sluck for it and a lot of 543 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 12: stuff in the media, and he didn't deserve it. And 544 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 12: I played with Bill, he's a champion player and champion coach. 545 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 12: And when I've had a great relationship with him and 546 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 12: still do and we're better, like we're probably almost really 547 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 12: close mates. And when you have someone Javinati like that, 548 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 12: it really hurts. It hurts me personally, and I'm never 549 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 12: tell him that, but now I'm probably telling him now, 550 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 12: and I love him. 551 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 8: And what does it mean to hear that belly that 552 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 8: support from teams? 553 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 7: It has been an event for twenty four hours for you, 554 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 7: like how they reconciled it. 555 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 9: And he's ever said to me, no, like it, Like 556 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 9: I don't know, Like I know the game, I'm in 557 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 9: the game. 558 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: I understand it. 559 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 13: Sometimes you know, heeds to get pushed to the boundary, 560 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 13: but like, like it hasn't it hasn't influenced how I 561 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 13: look at myself and who I am as a person, 562 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 13: Like I'm. 563 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: Very comfortable question without notice before we wrap up, because 564 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: we could talk at length even further about this. Do 565 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: you think that the life of a shock jock and 566 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: your success is a shock jock is predetermined by you 567 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: being a man. I think it's also gendered one. We 568 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: don't see very many women in this space anyway to 569 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: be able to be afforded to have a hot take. 570 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: But I think for us. 571 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: Say that again, Yeah, I don't. 572 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: Think that there is not enough women in this industry 573 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: that have the platform to be able to have these 574 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: hot takes and have no repercussions. 575 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: Are you implying that there's a sports entertainment network that 576 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: don't have a single female host? 577 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 578 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but all they do is talk about sport and 579 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: not even on their overnight shift even their specialists in wine, 580 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 4: which they have one. 581 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I say this, I love is ye and 582 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: I listen all the time, but it blows my mind 583 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: that there is not a single female host. 584 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's also reason like even if. 585 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 3: There was, because the vitriol that would come for them 586 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: for having a hot take is so different than if 587 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: it was a bloke. 588 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: It's not you have to think of every single second 589 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: of the day that you are broadcasting. This is the 590 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: life that we live. It's me I could be here 591 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 2: with a full critical analysis with PowerPoint slides about Nathan 592 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Cleary's left side step and I would get somebody, you 593 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: don't even know the game? Did you even play? How 594 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: would you know? I know, Like it's just I can't 595 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: have hot takes because I'm not allowed to. Yeah, that 596 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: is something that I think this conversation is also missing. 597 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: You can build these narratives, you can have this whole 598 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: whirlpool of vitriol and all of this potentially just putting 599 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: it out there. If there were more female voices in here, 600 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: we may not see such a fallout. 601 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: My problem is I live in this space, but my 602 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: want to keep my own peace and not deal with 603 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: the vitriol that comes with having a hot take has 604 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: mellowed me enormously, and that I love creating a platform 605 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: for people like Ryan Hoffman to go off, but even 606 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: if I enormously agree with him, I almost won't going 607 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: hard afterwards unless it's in this format with you. Yes, 608 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can be my earnest self 609 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: still in sport without feeling like the ton of bricks 610 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: will fall on you. So I do think there is 611 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: definitely that gendered thing that blokes can go really harder 612 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: on this and we can't because we never played the game, 613 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 3: which they never say about Jared Whiteley. 614 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: I can talk about Reyes Walsh getting his head chopped 615 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: off in an Origin game and maybe probably not the 616 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: best look when it comes to CTA and everything we're 617 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: doing with concussion. 618 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: Or decigning to get punched in the head. 619 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will have hundreds of comments being like, 620 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: you don't even like rugby league? Sorry? What what? 621 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: I don't know? 622 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: And the sad thing is we're still there, and I 623 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: think it takes us to be more vocal about it. 624 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: But that's why we've created this space. And the really 625 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: nice thing for me is that we and for us 626 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: is that we created two good sports because it's the 627 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: space that we wished existed when we were getting into 628 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: sports media. And by just being ourselves, of which I've 629 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: directly had bosses tell me that I need to temper 630 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: my interest to be more palatable to a male audience 631 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: to be taken seriously. 632 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: I e. 633 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: If you post about fashion and makeup, no one's going 634 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: to believe that you know anything about sport. Direct quote 635 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: that a conversation that happened with me with a boss. 636 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: We by just being ourselves get the Prime Minister to 637 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: come in. 638 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: That's right, because. 639 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: There are people that I don't know their hobbies don't 640 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: have to include golf and dark liquor in order to 641 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: know anything about sport. And I think hopefully the audience 642 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: is pivoting that way. But I think when you see 643 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: these overt hot takes, you can have them and still 644 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: be kind. And I think, dare I say it, there 645 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: is a gendering where women are better at doing that? 646 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there is, there is, and they'll do it 647 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: in a way and still be called dramatic. And I'm like, 648 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: if you think that that could potentially be dramatic, let's 649 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: just rewind every single grab that we have played on 650 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: this episode. 651 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: If women did this, it would be labeled to cat fight. 652 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, cat fight between former play Imagine if 653 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: this was the Tillies, oh. 654 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, one hundred percent, it would be And look, 655 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: that's not necessarily what this episode is about, but I 656 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: think that it's a very very valid point that we raise, and. 657 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: If we don't raise it, no one else will. 658 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: No one else will, but Queensland heading to a decider. 659 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: That is the takeaway? 660 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: Is that the fun fact? 661 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: No, oh my gosh, yes, fun fact. This is a 662 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: complete deviation and I am so excited to hear well, 663 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: really see your reaction to my fun fact, I've gone 664 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: absolutely rogue, dear listener, in a surprise to no one. Okay, 665 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: fun fact. Did you know that Locke Neil and I 666 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: might be the same person? Have we been in the 667 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: same room together? No? Not yet. We both love the 668 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Brisbane lines. Last time I checked, we both had multiple 669 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: brand Loow medals to our name, and I've just found 670 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: out we have the same pop culture icon' Locky favorite 671 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: TV character of all time? 672 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 8: Ash from Pokemon Peak a Pokemon guy. 673 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: He goes, who is your favorite television character of all time? 674 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: Without blinking, Locky Neil aka Georgie Tunney goes Ash from 675 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Pokemon Are you joking? No one will ever say that 676 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: except for me. That's so true. No one would ever 677 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: say that. What what Lucky Neil, sir? Come on the 678 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: podcast or can you we're the same person? I don't know. 679 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: Have you been here the whole time? 680 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: HOWE come on? 681 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: So arguably one of the greatest players to ever and 682 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: to you know what, if not for Patrick Kipps getting 683 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: off that high hit that then meant that he won 684 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: a brown Low. 685 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 4: He's a three time brown Low medalist. 686 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: Locking Neil he's only one two, but he could have 687 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: potentially won three. So one of the greatest players of 688 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: all time. And your argument is you must be the 689 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: same person because you'll like the same anime. Yeah, okay, yeah, 690 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: I just really wanted to clear that up. Locking Neil 691 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: and his partner Jules, who's a legend. I'm sure that 692 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: we could get him on the pod. 693 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to call it a hot take, 694 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm happy to. 695 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: All Right, we're getting on him. 696 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Should we better go until next week? 697 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: Be a great sport? 698 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: Look at you