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Speaker 1: It's about this time of year that our.

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Speaker 2: Our thoughts turned to summer and swimming, and this week

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Speaker 2: we want you to turn your thoughts also to swimming safety.

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Speaker 3: We do because of recent statistics that show we have

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Speaker 3: the worst case of drownings in the country and it's

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Speaker 3: getting worse, and it's getting worse, and it's striking older people.

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Speaker 3: All week we're speaking to various experts in the areas

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Speaker 3: of swimming and CPR, which is very important. Today we're

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Speaker 3: going to speak to Greg Rees, who's the CEO of

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Speaker 3: State Swim but we're opening up the phones now on

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Speaker 1: It is one that has to be addressed.

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Speaker 3: Have you had a near drowning or CPR experience that

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Speaker 3: In my family, we are all very strong swimmers. Yet

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Speaker 3: even the strongest of swimmers can find themselves in situations. Now,

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Speaker 3: when you're at the beach and they say swim between

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Speaker 3: the flags, swim between the flags. They've done the work

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Speaker 3: for you and they because rips are not to be

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Speaker 3: messed with, no matter how strong a swimmer you are.

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Speaker 3: We had an experience recently was earlier this year. My

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Speaker 3: my niece's husband went. A very strong swimmer. He's gone

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Speaker 3: out to help someone who got into difficulty. And you

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Speaker 3: hear this, how often do you hear this story? So

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Speaker 3: he's gone out to help her and he himself has

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Speaker 3: got caught in this rip. Now, this rip was pulling

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Speaker 3: him down. I didn't know that they did this. I

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Speaker 3: This thing was pulling him down as well as out,

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Speaker 3: and he was really really fun to stay above the

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Speaker 3: water and he was. Fortunately, it all had a happy ending.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was saved by my niece, who was practically a superhero.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not even kidding she is. She's a nurse,

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Speaker 3: she's a superhero. She's got out I think on a

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Speaker 3: paddle board. She's rescued everybody. But by the time she

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Speaker 3: got to jas, he was exhausted and he was going under.

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Speaker 3: And he is a strong young man, but he was

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Speaker 3: absolutely wasted by this rip that he was fighting to

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Speaker 3: stay above. So that's how serious it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as strong or as young as I used

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Speaker 2: to be, but I got caught in a small down

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Speaker 2: I'm getting dragged out and you just lose control of

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Speaker 2: and you try to stay calm. Yeah, a sense of

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Speaker 2: panic that kicks off and exhaust you. Yes, And that's

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Speaker 2: human nature it is.

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Speaker 3: I did not could pull you down as well.

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Speaker 2: No, well, thankfully the one I was in it wasn't

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Speaker 2: overly strong, but it was definitely still a rip and

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Speaker 2: it wasn't pulling me. I mean, if it had been

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Speaker 2: doing that as well. The exhaustion just gets.

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Speaker 3: The exhaustion, the panic, the adrenaline that comes from the

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: To anyone, they say, go with it, blah blah.

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Speaker 3: But it's not that simple. You're you're going out, and

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Speaker 3: if you're going out to see it is obviously it

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Speaker 3: is a natural, you know, reaction to to fight against it.

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Speaker 2: We we have a we have we have a nice

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Speaker 2: early call. Hello Lorraine, Good morning Lorraine.

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Speaker 3: Hello rain In Hilbert. What's what's your story?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of years ago I took my daughter

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Speaker 5: and my twins who were seven at the time, to

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Speaker 5: Queens Ran, Yes, and we went for an early morning

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Speaker 5: swim and we were between the flag. Yeah, but have

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Speaker 5: been like a morning rip or something like that. I

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Speaker 5: we all got caught in what this which was dragging

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Speaker 5: my daughter who's an adult, we made a chain. Yes,

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Speaker 5: it just took me all my strength. It was like, okay,

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Speaker 5: this is you know, terror, mother strength coming and I

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Speaker 3: That's that lifting a car mother strength.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, you hear about it a roon ex amazing, Well

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Speaker 3: well done.

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Speaker 5: You wasted from it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bet it's just that pure panic is.

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Speaker 6: Not the roin it was.

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Speaker 5: It was there with my babies and I had to

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that ended well. And you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like we talk about the flags and everything. I guess.

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Speaker 3: No one's infallible that you can't. It's not always got

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Speaker 3: to be perfectly right, but it's certainly I guess a

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Speaker 1: The Ripstone experience.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Had a happy ending year, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Mel On. The text says, when I was young, I

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Speaker 3: was in a pool at a hotel and a younger

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Speaker 3: help her. She was panicking though, and she kept pushing

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Speaker 3: me under. So luckily my dad jumped in and saved

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Speaker 2: That's one of the fears too, isn't it is that

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Speaker 2: when you're helping someone, they panic and they drag you down.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely. Leo and Morley, Good morning.

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Speaker 4: Leo, good morning. How are we going?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: So what's your what's your story?

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Speaker 4: Well, I've actually got two little stories. One is both

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Speaker 4: involving school. Actually I was at high school back out

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Speaker 4: We had a swinging lessons or sports at the time

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Speaker 4: at school and had their own pool, and right at

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Speaker 4: the end of all the lessons, the teacher thought it

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Speaker 4: would be a good thing to see who could hold

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Speaker 4: one of our chaps he hyperventilated and he could sucking

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Speaker 4: We're all looking at this, and he saw as goanos

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Speaker 4: him out, and blue lips and everything had to be resuscitated,

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Speaker 4: but he was fine. I've got chick. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 4: the second time, my wife, when she came to Australia,

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Speaker 4: At school swimming lessons, sports teachers trying to explain to

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Speaker 4: well sink or swim through it. So next thing you know,

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Speaker 4: she sank. She swam like a stone, as she said,

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Speaker 4: had told her what was going on. They jumped in,

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that teachers don't do anything.

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Speaker 3: When they give you the option sink or swim. Literally,

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Speaker 3: it's not really an option.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you leo. Oh boy, that's.

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Speaker 2: They've read the longest since from the further that's off

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mon't be doing that again.

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Speaker 3: Adam in Belmont says, about four months ago, my wife

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Speaker 3: was in the pharmacy picking up scripts when an elderly

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Speaker 3: gentleman collapsed right in front of it. She only has

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Speaker 3: basic first Aid but has some CPR, so she went

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Speaker 3: to work on this guy and he survived. Hooray. He

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Speaker 3: walked into the pharmacy a week later and he thanked

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Speaker 3: everyone for saving his life. The key takeaway for anyone

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Speaker 3: listening is in a situation where CPR may be needed,

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Speaker 3: the chances of survival for people increases if people have

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Speaker 3: training and can identify the situation where you need to

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Speaker 3: employ those skills.

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Speaker 2: And so it doesn't always have to be at the

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Speaker 2: at the chemists you can be even at the chemist

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Speaker 2: where you need CPR.

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Speaker 3: Mark and tapping hello, what is your story Mark?

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Speaker 6: Good morning? Yes, Sam, Well, I've been a marine risky

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Speaker 6: volunteer for about thirty plus years right and unfortunately during

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Speaker 6: that time but involved in a number of drownings at sea. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: mainly because people don't wear life jackets when we're out

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Speaker 6: in the boats. So it's a basic rule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean the coroner came out a few years ago

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Speaker 6: when worked out in a two year period at a

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Speaker 6: twelve dets at sea eight because they've been saved by

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Speaker 3: Do you think that people get on a boat and

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Speaker 3: they go, oh, no, I can swim. That's for people

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Speaker 3: who can't swim, I you know, make that mistake.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, you know when when your boat goes down

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Speaker 6: or capsizes, sometimes I don't even know how to put

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and once again, the exhaustion seems so quick is

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, And we always recommend people go on with

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Speaker 6: marine rescue groups. So if you do later or get

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks, thanks for your service, mam, thank you, mall right,

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Speaker 3: thank you everybody.

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Speaker 2: You would have seen some stuff over the years, yes,

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Speaker 2: some stuff that stupid stuff too, to be avoided