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Speaker 1: This is gem nation with Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy demand of arms

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Speaker 2: for the pub test. Piercing babies ears?

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Speaker 3: Does it pass the pup test well.

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Speaker 4: A woman has had to defend herself against online trolls.

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Speaker 4: She pierced her newborn babies ears. She put little flower

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Speaker 4: earrings in sure, and she posted the picture and it's

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Speaker 4: gone viral with people saying, it's a newborn baby. Come on,

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Speaker 4: I know culture culturally, some culturals do this. She said,

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Speaker 4: she did it because you just.

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Speaker 3: Like the look at that.

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Speaker 4: It's a hairy baby. And Chloe Kardashian has also had

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Speaker 4: her daughter Tru's ear is pierced when she was about

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Speaker 4: six months old, and same thing, people going, you know,

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Speaker 4: are you making all this stuff public? Do you really

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Speaker 4: feel you what to pierce your child's ear is before

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Speaker 4: they have a chance to say that that they want

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Speaker 4: there is pierced.

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Speaker 3: But as you say, culturally, think I got a Maltese

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Speaker 3: mate were years ago. He and his daughters is pierced,

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Speaker 3: you know when almost when it came out of the womb.

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Speaker 4: And did you have a comment, No.

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Speaker 3: Not really, it's just what they do, you know.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it myself because it seems like a

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Speaker 2: lot of effort, you know, because they maybe you're ready.

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Speaker 3: There's all these little things that can upset it. Why

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Speaker 3: would you upset it further by piercing its ease?

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess because then they're going to be crying anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I want them to be crying, Okay, later on when

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Speaker 4: they look at you accusingly.

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Speaker 3: Let's get a neck tattoo as well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: The pop test piercing babies ears? Does it pass the

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Speaker 4: pub test?

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Speaker 1: Both my daughters that have had their ears after eight

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Speaker 1: weeks and they're fine better that way, the way the

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Speaker 1: ears an't getting infected because they're not playing with them.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, much further.

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Speaker 6: My mum pierced lying when I was six weeks old.

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Speaker 6: Of course, it was the dumb thing over the toils.

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Speaker 6: I use ears piers and boys did not.

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Speaker 5: The only place is that will pierce babies is are

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Speaker 5: people who use piercing guns, and they're really dangerous to you,

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Speaker 5: so you can cause a lot of damage to the ears.

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Speaker 6: You'll find anybody who actually sayes piercing in a professional

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Speaker 6: sense will not pierce somebody under the age of sixteen

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Speaker 6: as somebody who had my ears pierced as a baby.

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Speaker 6: It caused a lot of scarring and damage, and it

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Speaker 6: was done incorrectly and I had to get it redone,

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Speaker 6: which is why it was so painful. When I got redone.

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Speaker 5: Oooo.

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Speaker 2: Word of warning, you got your ears pissed at the

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Speaker 2: tender age of forty two.

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Speaker 3: I did to ask you permendition.

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Speaker 4: I got them redone. And because the similar story, because

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Speaker 4: you have to work around the gristle that was already there,

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Speaker 4: because it had kind of closed over.

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Speaker 3: Incredibly painful. Paul Gallum with your ears. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that would have been that gristly.

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Speaker 4: No, but it was painful.

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Speaker 3: Of course it would have been.

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Speaker 4: So that's something to think about.

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Speaker 3: Beauty is pain, as they say Europe pain