1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've Woody and I live from Woody's front porch 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: here and you guys listen to a special podcast we 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: are doing are called sidewalk Talk. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Got a little bit of extra time in Isolation Woods. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Ordinarily all of these guests wouldn't talk to us, but 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: they've got extra time as well. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: So we are doing sidewalk. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: Talk with some brilliant people, and one of those people 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: joins us right now. 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Another guest for Sidewalk Talk is a Ryan Core. 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: This unbelievably talented Ozzie actor has started some of the 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: best hozzy and international dramas out there. Critics raved about 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: his performance in Russell Crow's The Water Diviner, and now 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: he's putting his voice behind the hashtag no Worker Left 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: Behind and want Schoema to help support the arts through 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: covid to discuss that and to talk about the brand 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: new show The Secret She Keeps. 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: It's Ryan Core. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Mate, welcome to the show, Super spicy show. Just saw 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: the trailer for The Secret She Keeps. It's going to 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: be the first episode ed last week. You guys can 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: get it on the catch up or stream it on 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: ten Play if you want to. But mate, can you 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit about that because it 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: looks riveting it is. 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: It's quite a spooky one, I mean, and that's a 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: huge amount to do with Laura Carmichael, who you might 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: know from Downtown Abbey, who's sort of turned her characters 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: on its head, and she's playing this really terrifying war 30 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: sociopath and other wonderful lead Jesster Gow And essentially Jesse 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: plays a pregnancy blog. She's blogging about her pregnancies, and 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: she has a husband, Jack, who has a best friend 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: who is me. And it's a psychological thriller that sort 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: of plays out episodically as the most outrageous of things, 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: the most unthinkable of things happen to see your family dynamic, 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: and it sort of praise upon that idea of, you know, 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: the fear associated with the paternal instinct and what if 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: something went wrong and what if they ran away in 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: the supermarket. And I think, you know, I've been saying, 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: I think it's wonderfully ironic and kind of fantastic that 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: families have to sit around the Talent Vision set and 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: watch this show about family has being terrifying. You know, 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: that gives me some sort of sick satisfaction. 44 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: I think, and I've known that for a while. 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Last time we've had an interview with you, last two 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: times we've had an interview, you've made out with Woody. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: I was going to say, I mean, this is safe. 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: This this social thing, I don't think kind of works. 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: I can't kiss you do at the computer. 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: I think we've done it twice now. 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: Have we? 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's sort of a shame we couldn't do 55 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: the third one than the Knockout Round, you know, the 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: best of the three? 57 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean the podcast is young. 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There's going to be a room in 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the future, I think. Yeah. 60 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: I think The Secrets is sort of you know, and 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: exact we're seeing, especially being in I saw at the 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: moment and everyone sort of being inside and watching so 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: much content, consuming so much stuff. We're sort of seeing, 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: you know, people won't give it their attention unless it's 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: unless it's really interesting. Less the bars sort of raised. 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: And I think there's been sort of a movement in 67 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Australia the last five ten years to really to make 68 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: really quality productions, and I think Secrets She Keeps really 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: sort of sits at the forefront of that and I think, 70 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, Channel tenth and a wonderful job, you know, 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: putting Australian drama as a priority because you know, it's 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: our stories and they're our voices, and we can we 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: can play on the international stage. And particularly with Secrets, 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: We've seen that, you know, it's been brought by the 75 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: BBC and other international outlets, so you know, I think 76 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: we have to keep making more of it great stuff. 77 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: On the topic of Australian productions, mate, you've been doing 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 5: a fair bit of work. I think the hashtag I 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 5: hope I'm saying it right leave no one behind or 80 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: leave no worker behind? 81 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they leave no workers behind? Yeah yeah. 82 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 5: And basically, you know, again on the topic of great 83 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: Australian productions, we you know, as consumers want to keep 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: seeing these amazing Australian productions and and you're you've started 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: sort of lobbying a little bit on Instagram, taking photos 86 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 5: of the work you've been doing on set and whatnot 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: to try and you know, make sure the Australian actors 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: and people who work in that in that industry get 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: looked after. Can I ask you where is that all 90 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: at at the moment? 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Look, I mean it's sort of unknown, it's quite it's 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: really concerning what's happened in the industry at the moment. 93 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: I'll say a few things. I mean, first of all, 94 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: I'm not the only one that's behind that that hashtag 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 4: or the movement. The great thing about this is artists 96 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: and creatives and people involved in the media and arts 97 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: everywhere have sort of banded together with not much support. 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: So ultimately the government rollout which supports us all through 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: this really strange time, basically overlooks a number of people 100 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: in my profession. So because we do jobs that are 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: three months long to six months long, and you know 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: that'd be we can shoot a whole series in that time. 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: I've just done a couple that you know, took two 104 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: and a half months, and my part, you know, only 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 4: a month to shoot, so the whole project is completed 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: in that time. And under the current job keeper and 107 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: seek out, you have to have held a job for 108 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: longer than three to six months, and it has to 109 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: be consistently. And the other thing part about our profession 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: is it's freelance work, contract based work, so you know, 111 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: I know, and on top of that, the industry was 112 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: one of the first to shut down because I mean, 113 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: I don't know how much your audience or yourselves know 114 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: about the workings of a film set, but it's really 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: contact based. You know, you have people wirre in your 116 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: mark every day, rehearse physically. Obviously, there's often on a 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: hundred people in a room and it's all reliant. We're 118 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: just a cog in that system, and it's a real 119 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: family dynamic, and you're close and you're in there for 120 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: six months. So it's not just the actors by any stretch, 121 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: you know, it's the crew who often have big families 122 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: and who I've known some of the crew that I've 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: just recently done a job with only a month, a 124 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 4: couple of months ago. I worked as when I was 125 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: twelve years old. So these are people that you sort 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: of keep revisiting, and they rely on the energy of 127 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: each other and each other's jobs to get productions done. 128 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: And it just seems that at the moment there is 129 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: no fine print that we can pick a box to say, well, 130 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: we work slightly outside of the lines. Now that's been 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: heard somewhat, you know, Iinberg addressed it with Goo addressed it. 132 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: But the more major problem to that is as a 133 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: result of this. As a result of this hiatus, let's 134 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: call it this isolation, there's been a couple of more 135 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: regulations put in place more recently which AA are all 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: over a number of other unions where they've lessened the 137 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: amount of Australian work, that the quota of Australian work, 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 4: the percentage of Australian work that we need to have 139 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 4: now at the moment, that's only until isolation. So the 140 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: government said we need to reduce costs. But my big 141 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: concern and my major worry is, you know, the Australian 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: content is Australia's voices. We are they, you know, I 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: think Roxburgh said, we're by no means, we're under no 144 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: illusion that we're saving lives here and we're under no 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: illusions that we're not the hospital works in the frontline 146 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 4: workers who are all doing such an incredible job. But 147 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: we are the voice of you, of of of the 148 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: people that you live with. We are the voice of 149 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: the community. And I think we're seeing now more than 150 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: ever the value in the work that artists doss the 151 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: place and it's our culture. So if we start to 152 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: lessen the amount of work that needs to be Australian 153 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: and we flooded with more and more American content. It's 154 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's a question of identity, of national identity, 155 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: and of the stories. And you know, I got into 156 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: this job as a result of those stories. You know, 157 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: a lot of Australian children tell around the twist an 158 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: Ocean Girl and you know, Blue Hills and coming up, 159 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: you know, and I identified with it because they were 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: my people. And I'm really concerned that at the end 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: of this isolation and when it starts to get back 162 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: on normal one our industry, we be one of the 163 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: last to get back and with these new regulations in place, 164 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: you know, I just hope that the government really pushed 165 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: to get us back on track and change those quotas again, 166 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: because you know, it's becoming more and moral competitive and 167 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: you know, and I'd like to be a part of 168 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: the Australian narrative. And I know that the many are 169 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: still the same. 170 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's interesting, isn't it, mate. 171 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm going to be honest, like somebody 172 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, jumping on Netflix or stan or wherever I'm 173 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: streaming a show. I you know, like for example, like 174 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I've got a real penchant for British drama, like I 175 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: love it. 176 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: I fucking love it, and I you know, I think. 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: You know, I watched Brighton Prejudice for the sixth time. No, 178 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: probably more thriller, more crime, to be honest. But even then, 179 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: like if I look at the stuff that I watch, 180 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: I have to be told by someone who is Australian 181 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: that they watched an Aussie show and it was brilliant, 182 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: brilliant for me to go, you know what, I'm gonna 183 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: go and give that a run because I've got the 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: filter on and I know what the production values are 185 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: and I know that, you know, you know, more often 186 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: than not, if I watch a BBC show and I 187 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: have a look at the cast, the production company and 188 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the director and stuff, and I know them, I'm across them, 189 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the chances are the writers are going to be good, 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: and you know, like you know, you see its speaking 191 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: of it, You've spoken about everywhere you know, like or 192 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: even shows that as big as HBO shows like, it's 193 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: so hard for you guys to compete in and amongst 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: that noise that is that industry and try and have 195 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: an Australian a take on it and to be hamstrung 196 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: in any way on top of that is crazy. 197 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's really difficult. I mean, you know, you 198 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: look at countries like in the UK for instance, in 199 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: German and a number of other European countries, they subsidize 200 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: their theater companies during this time. There's not in their 201 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: government roll out, there's a particular specified you know, we 202 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: value you and what you offer to culture and to society, 203 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: and I think that we haven't. You know, not only 204 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: have we not followed that norm while they're down, while 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: the industry is down, we're kicking it on the floor. 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: And what you know, the positive out of this is 207 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: the artists that are involved, the people they are banding together, 208 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 4: and I mean there's nothing sort of more dangerous and 209 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: sort of angry artists throughout sort of saying something. So 210 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: you know, there is some there is some positivity to it. 211 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: And I do get this feeling now speaking to my 212 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: friends and people in the industry and about jobs that 213 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: have become that when when we do get a chance 214 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: to get back where we're really going to come out 215 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: all at a gate and no screen. Australia have just 216 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: funded a number of different projects, a lot more projects 217 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: than usual, So that's a positive, but we need to 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: be supported in the meantime. 219 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: And I think just because so right, do you think 220 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: that we're a victim of the English language here? Like 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at, you know, talking about 222 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: other countries, and you know, France, for example, has a 223 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal film industry which really champions their people. But you know, 224 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: if I was a French speaker, I'd be much more 225 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: inclined to be watching French things. I mean, sure, I'd 226 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: watched some other stuff subtitled, but the pinnacle of the 227 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: film industry for those people a lot of the time 228 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: is making, you know, an epic French film for example, 229 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, with a lot of 230 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Ossie actors and stuff like, and I know you've you've 231 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: been in productions overseas as well, and that I feel 232 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: like that that that the kicker as well is that 233 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: when you look at like Chris Hemsworth for example, like 234 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: why you know, Hugh Jackman, these people, why have they 235 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: made it? Because they they're in Hollywood And you know, 236 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: there's a ceiling that's Australia. And then once you get 237 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: to that ceiling, it's like, okay, cool, now can I 238 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: break the next level? Rather than going like, oh cool, 239 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I made the ceiling in Australia. I've got enough money. 240 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I want to keep making productions here. I mean that 241 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: that never happens. No one goes, oh no thanks, I'm 242 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: not going to do Hollywood or I'm not going to 243 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: go and do something amazing for the BBC. I'm going 244 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: to stick around and do a cracking Aussie film for 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: the next you know, ten years. I mean, but I'm 246 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: joking obviously, but surely that's you know, it's almost like 247 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a paradox where on the one hand 248 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, look who want lots of support, et cetera, 249 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: and we want to try and champion in the Austraian 250 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: film industry. But on the other hand it's like, you know, 251 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: if any won, any Australian actor got a chance to 252 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: go and do work elsewhere, then they would. 253 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's there's a few things to be 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 4: said there. I mean, I mean, first of all, there 255 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,119 Speaker 4: are a number of different paths. So you cited Hemsworth 256 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, there's a number of them. There 257 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: are a number of people, particularly Australian artists, you know, 258 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: that are lesser known, particularly internationally, that have put their 259 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: art at the forefront and put the stories they're associated 260 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: with at the forefront of their decision making. So you know, 261 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you go to America, I'm not I'm not 262 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: sure how I'm sure Richard Roster's name isn't totaled around 263 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: the same as as Chris Hanner's works. You know, then 264 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 4: Mendelssohn's our our Hugo weavings, our plate branches. Ye know 265 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: me what they are their artists first and foremost, and 266 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: of course you know the exceptions to that of the 267 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 4: absolute superstars being But what I do find with them, Yeah, 268 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: you're right, some of that stardom has been found internationally. 269 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: But what I particularly like about Hemsworth and Hugh Jackman 270 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: you mentioned and then is they come back here and 271 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: blanch it. You know, they come back here and invest 272 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: in Australian culture and stories and they use that international 273 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: acknowledgment that they have and they have to bring it 274 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: back because they too. And this is to the second thing. Yeah, French, 275 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 4: I think you know French particularly, you know, they're very 276 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: proud of their culture. They're very proud of their they're 277 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: passionate people. They speak about their arts. You concede in 278 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: their buildings, you can take in their food. You know, 279 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: they philosophy and conversations, and I think, you know, there 280 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: is a certain cautiousness to to Australians that we don't 281 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: we don't we don't get involved nearly as much in 282 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: discourse about those things or like like you were saying, 283 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a friend that and we need we 284 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: need we need a lot of pride in what we 285 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: do here. And I think a big part of that 286 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: problem is too we don't know what's on you know, 287 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, you know, you know Game of Thrones is 288 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: on the next episode, you know that goes off. And 289 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: I mean other than I think stan in Australia have 290 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: done a really good job at sort of a masters champaign. 291 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: You know, I remember we blom you know, we're all 292 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: over the bush shelters and so people watched it, and 293 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: I think so we sort of got to amalgamate those two. 294 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: We've got it. We've got to We've got to incentive 295 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: sense of pride in people and the stories that we 296 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: have to tell, and that they're not all dark and 297 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: they're not all about about our blacker history and that 298 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, and I think we've we've got examples of that. 299 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: We've got multiple examples of that cross television and film, 300 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: particularly film, and and we saw going to lean into 301 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: that a little bit more and and you know it'd 302 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 4: be nicest from the top down, these systems that are 303 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: in place. You know, our Prime Minister, our you know 304 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: premier acknowledge that because you know. I think that's what 305 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: part of what makes France France. I think it's what 306 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: makes part of Italy, Italy and space cultures. It's you 307 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: can identify it and you want to be a part 308 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: of it. And I think where a much younger country, 309 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: we're learning what that is. But the arts and telling 310 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: narrative in our own stories is a really vital part. 311 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Of what it manifests. It manifests there, doesn't it. Culture 312 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: is like what you see and what you experience in art. 313 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: It's like that. It typifies culture. 314 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point you made about 315 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: people coming back and doing shows and productions. 316 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: Here. 317 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I saw Hugo Weaving in an MTC production in audience. 318 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: There's like one hundred and fifty people there. Wastous, outrageous. 319 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I think that he came in did that because he's 320 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: just you know, wanted to give back to that because 321 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: he love maltase. 322 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: He loves he loves, he loves the words. You know, 323 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: I know, I know you go personally, and and and 324 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: opportunities to work with him, and friends that have worked 325 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: with him, and you know, you go every night, will 326 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: be behind he's doing a theater play. He will be 327 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: behind the he's well passed studying, but he will behind 328 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: writing notes on his text for the next night, for 329 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: the whole of the progress. And I remember seeing Weaving 330 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: on stage early days this. It was a play called 331 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: Rifle Mind. Philip Seamow Hoffman directed it actually, and I 332 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: was at school. Yeah, I got a story for you 333 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: about that too, and we'll come back to that. 334 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: We'll come back to that and give us the Weaving first, 335 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: then we'll take the Hoffman story. 336 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: It's slightly embarrassing because he's a god to me, amazing, 337 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: but I remember that, you know, it was this incredible 338 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: play and Susan Pryor was in it, and and and 339 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: Jeremy Simms. But anyway, I remember there was about two brothers, 340 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: Martin Chokus, who's this another example of an unknown actor 341 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: who just blows my mind And Hugo Weaving playing brothers, 342 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: I think, and it was in it. It was something 343 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: to do with them being in a band and it 344 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: breaking up and slowly going to disorder, and they were 345 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: in this rageful argument. I was sitting front row and 346 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: I had a couple of compulsivets. What first time when 347 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: Martin Chokers came high and doing this and I want 348 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: to it was doing this, this powerful gestum was sort 349 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: of like pressing towards Hugo and this thing with his voice. 350 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to reach out and touch his leg. It 351 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: contained that much power, like I was like, what are 352 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: you doing? It was? It was truly transcendent and Hugo, 353 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. I remember sitting there. He'd be quite 354 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: a big man, you know, quite a muscular man. He 355 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: was sitting there with his big chest out and on 356 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: his couch and I could see I was so close. 357 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: I could see his heartbeat going in his T shirt. 358 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: But every word that came at, every word, the resonance 359 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: of his voice, every word was finesse. Every idea, every 360 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: idea that he was trying to pursue was so focused 361 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: and still, and so you could see that underneath he 362 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: was working so hard and out like this this tran 363 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: transcendental experience. And so you know, the first half finishes 364 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 4: and the audience is silent, and and you know, I 365 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: was like, that's what I want to do. That's the power, 366 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 4: and that's ultimately what all of this is. Film, television, 367 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: it's all theater. It's all only if it has an audience. 368 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: And what we're talking about here is the audience and 369 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: what what what is the theater of Australia? What is 370 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: the theater of our voices? You know? 371 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man well said you've got a Hoffmann story 372 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: to flow into. 373 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: We weren't going to forget it. 374 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so I'm at drama school and there was 375 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: a part of this at the Drama States, sorry, the States, 376 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: whereas at Sydney Theater Company. So so at neither there's 377 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: this little black book if you're a student there, and 378 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: all the theater companies across Sydney, if there's any spare 379 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: tickets for things going or previews, just quiet, quiet, and 380 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: you get your name in the book first when you 381 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 4: find out that death you can go to these places 382 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: because well is anything and living off been Yeah, so 383 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: we went to this rifle, you know, teachers like you 384 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: have to see what it is to see great act acting. 385 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: Of course it was Seema Hoffman. I watched what I 386 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 4: just told you about, and my mind was blown. And 387 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: I was out when I smoked, having a cigarette and 388 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: on the on the out sort of decking area across 389 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 4: the harbor at the Sydney Theater Company beautiful, and I 390 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: was by myself because you know, smoking is not good 391 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: for the voice in the theater's crowd. And Hoffman walked 392 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: out and and I just sort of remember thinking, you know, 393 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: if you see one of your heroes, you sort of 394 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: rehearse those lines in your head, or you know, you 395 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: think you've got to be cool. I've worked with Russell Krawwer, 396 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: with a couple of people, you know, but you know, 397 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 4: and see my Hoffman, and the only thing that. 398 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: I lead with is it Sorry, just just to check back, 399 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: you were going to lead with, Hey, Philip, I've worked 400 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: with Russia. 401 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: Because at this stage I certainly haven't. I'm just sometimes 402 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: I've tried to play my cool far better event that 403 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 4: I'm yeah, yeah, oh, no, no doubt at all. And 404 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: this is probably this is probably the catalyst and my 405 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: anxiety in meeting you know people, that I am now, 406 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: but I said, you know, he walked out and I 407 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: was like, okay, this is your moment. Halfman. He was 408 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: looking sort of like, you know, halfway through a sea 409 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: to play in which had like a bereton, and like 410 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: he was very tired, and all I can tell I 411 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: was congratulations on the first half, Philip, and he just 412 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: looked at me like I was insane and was like, oh, yeah, 413 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: thank you and just sort of wandered off, you bugget. 414 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always a bad time when they physically walk away. 415 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not enjoying conversations. 416 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: The cast was I just met a weird dude out 417 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: in the smokers. 418 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: Area, you know, and he congratulated me. 419 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: Like you thought it was a game of footy or something. 420 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 5: But I won the first half. 421 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted a half years the end. Congratulations on 422 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: the first half, Philip. I don't even see my breath, 423 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 4: continuedly finish the sentence. That's because of how much power 424 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: and how much I idolize what that man was capable of. 425 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: And it's the same as you go, It's the same 426 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: as Kate, It's it's the same as you know a 427 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: number of a number of performers and I think that 428 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: sits in a different place to this idea of celebrity 429 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: in Hollywood and what's known. And I think that's what 430 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: we're in pursuit of. You know, that's what our stories are. 431 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: It's things that move people. It's things that contact people 432 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 4: on an emotional level. It's not whether you recognize them 433 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: off a magazine cover or want to see them with 434 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: their shirt off. And that's that's sort of the that's 435 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: what we're dealing with. That's the undertone of what we're 436 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: dealing with, and we get to dictate. The great part 437 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: is we get to detect what the narrative is, who 438 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: we are, who we've been, who we are currently, and 439 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: where we want to go. And so now when I'm 440 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: focusing on projects, they're the sort of things that I'm 441 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: trying to, you know, juggle up in my mind before 442 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: before before doing it. 443 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Well, Mate, we reckon you appreciate hot and I'm sure 444 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us were choke on their words in 445 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: and around you because you are a real shining bacon 446 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: across film and TV. 447 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Seriously, and as people that want to see you with 448 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: your shirt off as well. 449 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: Ryan as he's a spoiler of people, he's nude in 450 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: the first episode of Bloom So going blown stand. 451 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: A lot of shows. It seems to be a prerequisite. 452 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: It's sort of like, you know, without doubt, getting someone. 453 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: We're only getting care if we're getting minimum ass rhyme 454 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: core butt clause. If I get to show my ass, 455 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: that's right, that's what you're hiding, right, we know it. 456 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: I'll stop showing your ass rhyme. 457 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: Come on, that's amazing exact if you guys want to 458 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: go and see the secret she keeps the first episode 459 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: last week on Channel ten, but yeah, get it on 460 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: ten play that's the place to catch up on it. 461 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: There. 462 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: Star started cast. 463 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: Including of course Ryan himself. Mate, thank you so much 464 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: for joining us, and look all the best thing you're doing, 465 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. As what he mentioned before, the hashtag 466 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: no workers get left behind. Go and check that out online, 467 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: just to try and pump the right interest right, the 468 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: right intrigue and then hopefully the right culture into the 469 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: Aussie film and theater industry because it certainly deserves it. 470 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: And I hope that something you guys can take away 471 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: from this conversation with Ryan, Mate, it's a pleasure. I'm 472 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: sorry we don't get to kiss you this time, but 473 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: we'll see. 474 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: I feel thank you, Thank you all. 475 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Man, it's been a treat. We'll speak to you soon. 476 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Matte