1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Right now is the independent candidate Amelda Adamson Agar's good 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: morning to you, Amelda. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: How are you very good? 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this morning. Are 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: you ready to get started? 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: No, but let's do it anyway, Let's. 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Go, Amelda. 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Why did you put your hand round in the seat 11 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: of Lingiari. 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: I put my hand up to being the next representative 13 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: fillingary because I believe it. After three plus the phases 14 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: of waiting for affirmative action, big party promises, the people 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: living near the seracy, the fruit of those promises delivered 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: as real outcomes. We need to stop promising and start delivering. 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: We're all starving for that. 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: Now. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: What do you see as being the biggest issues in 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: the seat of Lingiari. 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know it's a big seat. So just here 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: we go. Housing and homelands, management and maintenance of community 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: and town camp infrastruction, affordable housing and enough housing across 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: all towns to make local community sustainable. The addressing of 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 3: anti social behavior and the hatred that our young people 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: have for us in the community, whether it's Alice Springs, 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: Catherine or Papunya the Endmoon or whatever. These are not 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: issues of color specifically, but the actions of young people 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: whose needs are being completely ignored and left unaddressed. Living 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: in peace, aging in place, and feeling safe and assured 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: at home and or out and about needing is not 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: as competent and assured as it was just a decade 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: or more ago. Social crimes rarely have true criminal intent, 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: but nearly always relate back to underlying issues in language, literacy, 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: and culture. We must support the successful role out and 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: programmed delivery of bipartisan Aboriginal Justice Agreement signed off late 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: last year. Given a decent chance so, I believe it 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: will deliver real action and resolve Weaponizing welfare through income 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: management needs to stop sentiment. Payments need to be raised 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: to at least twenty percent above the poverty line. The 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: minimum wage rate needs to rise at least seven dollars 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: seventy five an hour for all of us. Isolated children 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: need increased supports in place, especially to enable families to 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: employ teachers in remote schools. Agle culture and horticulture businesses 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: need better access to temporary workforce through the introduction of 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: an agg visa. I could go on forever, but I 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: think I must be running out of time. 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well we've got you've got about two minutes 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: thirty left. But still a few questions left, Amelda, Why 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: do you think that you and the party that you're well, 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: you're not. 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Actually you're an independent. 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: So why do you think that you will be the 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: best place to deal with these issues? 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, I promise the people of the Electric speece independent 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: as our first independent was. His name was Vincent Lungiari, 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: and he walked away from the oppression of inaction, advocated patiently, 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: and agitated forcefully until if he saw and received real action. 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Being independent gives me the freedom to stay clear of 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: the party room. Your vote will employ me to deliver 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: the big party promises. Your vote means delivery can happen. Furthermore, 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: I will not fly in or fly out, or drive 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: and drive out of your community in a day. I 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: will sit down, i will shut up or roll out 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: my swag, and I'll listen to every one of you 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: during my time in the house. It's time we all 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: made live the area matter and four hours in every 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: day and whether I rush in or stop and stay awhile, 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: we've got to invest every hour on the ground properly. 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Now, who are you going to be preferencing no one? 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: This election, more than ever before, belongs to every voter. 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: So do you have to put somebody in second? 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Though? I've always used my pencil and I've made my 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: decision before I've gone in. I've never used a how 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: to vote card in my life. We're all big people, Katie, 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: and the way people vote will be the fastest I 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: think of this election. 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Now, why should people vote for you? You've got a 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: bit over a minute to tell. 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Us, Well, there is nothing fancy about me. What you 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: see is what you get. I'm a deep thinker and 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: I plan my response carefully. The most things, situations like 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: radio interviews on the fly, really intimidate me. But I'll 84 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: have a go. I have the broken smile because I 85 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: cannot afford the dental repair. I worry about my rent 86 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: granting paid every week. I understand some of the challenges 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: of disability because I am disabled, and every day I 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: need to think ahead of my next marriage to remain 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: safe and able, and I listen. I am steady and 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: steadfast in every undertaking. I have the patience to pursue 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: the right outcome, not the fast outcome. That I'm married 92 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: to a great woman who holds me accountable when she 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: thinks I'm slipping. I identify as more boy than girl, 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: always have, although God blessed me with a female birthday suit. 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: When you talk to me about the pain of discrimination 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: and the burden that another person's perception of you have 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: on you, I hear you. I walk in those shoes too. 98 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: People are always trying to work out who I am 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: and what I am. I am Imelder always was and 100 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: always will be. Thank you for numbering my box and 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: starting your pencil for change, you mate Lingiari matter. 102 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: Well, Amelda, you've done it with two seconds to spare. 103 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: We really appreciate your time this morning. The independent candidate 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: for Lingiari, Amelda Adamson Agaz, thanks so. 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Much for your time today. 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, thank you. 107 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: And it is just ten minutes away from eleven o'clock. 108 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: We are going to be catching up, well, we're going 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: to be catching up with Damian Ryan next. Here's the 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: COLPS candidate for the seat of Lingiari and he's in 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: and he's in the studio actually, so we're going to 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: be heading across to him in just a second. If 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: you've got something on your mind, this morning though, that 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: you would like to have a chat to us about 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: eight nine four one one four nine is the number. 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: You can also send us a message if you'd like 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: to zero four double nine seven double one three six 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: zero and no doubt there's going to be plenty of 119 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you in contact with us today to have a chat. 120 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: But well, joining me in the studio is the colp's 121 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: candidate for Lingiari, Damian Ryan. 122 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: Good morning Katie, and it's great to be in your studio. 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: I've never had the opportunity before. 125 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I did think that. 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever met in person before, 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: so I appreciate you coming in. 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: Damien. Are you ready for these questions? 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: I'm ready for your grilling. 130 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: All right, you got five minutes, let's get started. 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: Damien Ryan, why did you put your hand up to 132 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: run in the seat of Lingiari? 133 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: Katie, Alice Springs Lingiari, The whole lot seems to have 134 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: been deserted over many years. 135 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 5: Not much has happened. 136 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: It hasn't been a contested seat for a long time, 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: and for that reason and misses out on a lot 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: of things. Having grown up in Alice Springs, run small 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: business been involved in local government, been involved in rather 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: large community events. I just thought that after finishing as 141 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: the mayor in August last year, I would put my 142 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: hand up for pre selection and the country Little Party 143 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: shose me. 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Now, what do you see as being the biggest issues 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: in the seat of Lniari? 146 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Right now? 147 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: As I wander around Lingiari, and I've done a lot 148 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: of travel since the first of September last year, crime 149 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: is the one that's really hurting people. Look, territory labor 150 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: have left us in a terrible state. I understand crime 151 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: belongs to territory labor. It's their role to do it, 152 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: whether it's in Alice Springs, per Pona, out at Port Keats, 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: there are so many places Tenant Creek. It's very sad 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: that this has been just left to the point we 155 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: are at. We've been forgotten below the Behmer line. The 156 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: other big important thing is about our economy recovering. 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: It's about jobs. 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: I very proudly sit here and support what the Coalition 159 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: are doing in road construction, opening up our resources, rail construction, housing. 160 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: All of those things will create jobs and they are 161 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: probably the most important. But we do have to have liverability. 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: As an ex federal candidate for Lingiari. If chosen, I'll 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: be working very hard with the Prime Minister and the 164 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: Deputy Prime Minister to ensure that the Territory, Government, Territory 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: Labor do something about crime. 166 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Now, taking those issues into account, why do you feel 167 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: you're the best place to deal with them. 168 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been in public life for quite some years. 169 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: I've represented as the mayor of Alice Springs for a 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: long period of time, since two thousand and eight. I 171 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: chaired the Local Government Association of the Northern Territory for 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: a dozen years. I've sat on the Northern Territory Grants 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: Commission for a number of years. I've sat on the 174 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: Heritage Council. I've done a lot of work across the 175 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: whole area of Lingiari. My family have connections right across. 176 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: I mean, my father was in the trucking industry, my 177 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: uncle just a matter of interest at ran Elsey Station. 178 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: There is a lot of connective with my family and 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 4: the seed of Lingiari. 180 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Now, who are you going to be preferencing? 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: Well, the thing I can assure you is that the 182 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: Greens and Labor will fill the last two numbers on 183 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: my ballot sheet. Why, Because a vote for the Greens 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: is a vote for labor. It will really hold us 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: back if we go back a little while. We look 186 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: at the banning of the live catile export that will 187 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: cripple our industry. The Greens have already said they're going 188 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: to go after the live sheep, so we cannot afford this. 189 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: I mean, there's been discussions from the Greens about our defense. 190 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: If people sitting in the territory or anywhere in the 191 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 4: territory day and don't think defense is a massive, massive 192 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: issue going forward, they're dreaming. So I'm sorry they will 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: be bottom and labor be second bottom. 194 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: Now you've still got about a minute forty left. Why 195 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: should people vote for you. 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: Look, I'm somebody who gets involved in the community. I'm 197 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 5: known for that. 198 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: In my time in local government, I appreciated every sort 199 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: of event the community had. But it wasn't just as 200 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: the mayor of Alice Springs. It's also working with some 201 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 4: of the smaller councils. I have a lot of relationships 202 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: with different mayors, principal members, mayors and presidents across the 203 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: area of Lingiari, understanding their seven A councils in the 204 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: northern territory. Fifteen and a half of them are in Lingiari, 205 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,239 Speaker 4: so to fight for them is just a natural progression 206 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: for me for the work that I have been doing 207 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: over a long period of time. 208 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: Tourism is in my blood as well. 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: Tourism has to be encouraged and has to get that 210 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: support to go forward. Tourism in Central Australia. Alice Springs 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 4: runs on events, Tenor Creek needs events, Borrow Lula needs events. 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: All of those areas. That's the sort of work that 213 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: I can bring to it. I have a very good 214 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: connection with the government, the Coalition government, and I'm sure 215 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: with their support we can see some great things happening 216 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: in Lingiari. I say to people, give it some thought. 217 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 4: This week there's prepole going on in the bush. I've 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: been out in the bush this week. 219 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: The facts are I can. 220 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: Represent everyone in the tertary, not any one singular group. 221 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: I'll represent everybody. 222 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, Damian Ryan, you've got about twenty seconds left up 223 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: your slave, is there anything else you want to very 224 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: quickly say? 225 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: Look, I would just say that to the people of Lingiari. 226 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: Please keep me in mind, put me as number one 227 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: on your card, or give me a two. If you 228 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: have a connection to somebody else, I will fight for you. 229 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: I will be your representative. Hold me your voice in camera. 230 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Well, Damian Ryan, one second left. Thank you very much 231 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: this morning. I appreciate it.