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Speaker 1: Gold. It's jonesy Amanda driving you home.

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Speaker 2: You know, Amanda used to be on a science show

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Speaker 2: long before she did all this other TV stuff that you.

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Speaker 1: See you doing.

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Speaker 2: It was called Beyond two thousand, in which you and

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other Clean Cup presenters in matching knits

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Speaker 2: would present Invengeance of the future.

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Speaker 3: Tell me when you're finished. Oh, we've run out of time.

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Speaker 3: That's the last show.

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Speaker 2: Largely these inventions wouldn't come true. Like you didn't see

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Speaker 2: the Internet, you didn't see Wi Fi.

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Speaker 1: Largely it was just pushbikes, wacky pushbikes, and they get you.

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Speaker 3: To ride them, and it was not true.

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Speaker 1: Invariably ride it into a tree.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people still talk to me about that

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Speaker 3: show in more glowing terms than you have.

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Speaker 1: But that's not glowing. But you like to keep your

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Speaker 1: finger in the pie. Are you okay?

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Speaker 4: And we have Munsey's Science wrapped science.

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Speaker 3: I need a volunteer for the thing I'm about to

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Speaker 3: talk about. Brendan Jones, come and sit next to me

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Speaker 3: over here, we sit on opposite sides of the studio.

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Speaker 3: Come and sit next to me please for this experiment.

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Speaker 1: Why do you use Ryan?

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Speaker 3: No, Ryan hasn't signed the waiver that you have come, come,

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Speaker 3: come around, Copperfield says, why don't you talk over me?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: Jones, And you're talking over me just like he does Sweeney. Right,

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Speaker 3: all right, Brenda, put your headphones on please, just for.

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Speaker 1: The record, this microphone is terrible.

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Speaker 3: Am I allowed to touch your personage? Can I touch you?

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Speaker 3: Because this experiment involves me touching you? I like your

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Speaker 3: permission please?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, yeah? We are you touching on your nipple?

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Speaker 3: So here we go?

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Speaker 1: Can I touch you on the not?

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Speaker 3: When I touch your nipple?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where is it?

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Speaker 3: That's a wreck? When I touch your nipple? Do you

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Speaker 3: do you have a feeling of sadness or homesickness, or

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Speaker 3: nostalgia or maybe even dread?

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Speaker 1: How much are you supposed to be touching it?

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Speaker 3: Well? Do you have any feelings?

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Speaker 1: It just feels chafy.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't make you feel those emotional things I've I've just.

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Speaker 1: Said, what's it supposed to make me feel?

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Speaker 3: You just want me to keep playing, keep going. Sadness, homesickness, nostalgia,

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Speaker 3: maybe some anxiety, maybe a feeling of dread.

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Speaker 1: No, it feels relaxing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well yeah, well maybe you can go back over there.

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Speaker 1: Now Ryan take over, because this is the.

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Speaker 3: Thing I've been reading about called sad sad nipple syndrome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, on tell me more.

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Speaker 3: Can I do it to Sydney?

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Speaker 1: Sweet? Is Jamie Dunpack? Right?

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Speaker 3: So, sad nipple syndrome. A lot of breastfeeding women feel this,

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Speaker 3: but not always some people. It's just people who feel it.

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Speaker 3: It's an emotional reaction some people get when their nipples

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Speaker 3: are stimulated, often during breastfeeding, but it can also be anytime.

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Speaker 3: As I said, a sudden wave of sadness, anxiety or

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Speaker 3: dread makes you feel low or irritable, even tearful. Only

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Speaker 3: lasts for a couple of seconds, maybe a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 3: and then it's gone. This is called sad nipple syndrome.

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Speaker 3: And people don't know. The scientists have recognized this, but

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Speaker 3: don't know why we get it. And I remember feeling

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Speaker 3: this sort of when I was breastfeeding that and you

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Speaker 3: think it's because you're being a new mum and all

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Speaker 3: the emotions that go with that. But it's thought to

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Speaker 3: be linked to the rapid drop in the brain chemical

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Speaker 3: dopamine when oxytocin, the hormone involved in milk let down

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Speaker 3: and in bonding is released. The brief chemical shift can

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Speaker 3: trigger a negative emotional dip, so there's a certain melancholy.

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Speaker 1: A certain is that when the milk's flowing out that can.

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Speaker 3: Be or it can just be when someone is stimulating

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Speaker 3: your nipple or touching your nipple. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be when you're breastfeeding.

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Speaker 1: Should I come back when we try again? No, But

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Speaker 1: if it.

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Speaker 3: Does happen to you, don't feel bad. Researchers think that

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Speaker 3: it's probably, as I said, hormonal fluctuations, and it's like

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Speaker 3: a reflex. It's like hitting your funny bone, so you

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Speaker 3: have no control over it, and it doesn't last for long.

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Speaker 3: So if you feel this, don't be anxious. Are you anxious, Brendan.

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Speaker 1: No, you will be when we have to get to

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Speaker 1: hr though.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm just bringing you up to speed with sad

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Speaker 3: nipple syndrome. Don't say I haven't told you.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating I am.

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Speaker 3: That's why should invite me to dinner party