1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: We know that communities in the Daily River region are 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: beginning to assess the damage after recent flooding, but for 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: many residents and small tourism operators, well, recovery is only 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: just the beginning. Now, we know that concerns are mounting 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: over prolonged power outages, limited road access, and the lack 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: of targeted disaster support. Now Margaret ray Taylor has been 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: advocating for urgent action to help locals get back on 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: their feet, and we know the Northern Territory government and 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the federal government this morning also making an announcement in 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: terms of some support. But joining me on the line 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: right now is Margaret ray Taylor. Good morning to you, Margaret. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, thanks for having me on again. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show. Margaret. First off, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: as those floodwaters received, what are you hearing from residents 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: or you know, what are you guys seeing or finding 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: out as some of those assessors get in there. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: So we've had a number of business owners able to 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: access their properties in the last sort of week week 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: or two. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: That's good. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: And the damage varies depending on the property and where 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: the property is sort of located on the river. But 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: worst case scenario. We've got people who have lost their 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: private residence and their businesses down to some people who 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: have you know, just had some water through, which is 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, does enough damage as it is, but it's 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: you know a lot of sinkholes, meters of mud. Yeah, 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: and just you know, some people who have lost their homes. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: So which is really sad. 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Oh, that is awful, absolutely awful for them, Margaret, Like, 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: does insurance cover them or for some of them, are 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: they not covered due to you know, to where they're located. 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I do want to clarify for some people 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: because you see a lot of commentary on social media 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: about you know, the community or you know this, that 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: and the other. And that's as far as the community 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: of nau goes. That's a conversation that the federal and 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: local government will have with the traditional owners. But I 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: want to point out that ninety nine percent of these 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: tourist parks were well outside the major flood level of 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: fourteen meters. So this flood was sixteen point four meters roughly, 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: which is a record breaking flood. Now, you know, you 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: can be on top of a hill, but if the 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: flood breaks all records, it doesn't matter. How high you are, 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: you know. So everyone has mitigation practices in place sort 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: of to lessen the loss or damage during a flood. 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 2: But this was a record breaking flood, so these properties 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: normally wouldn't be affected by a major flood. So they 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: want to clarify that for people. 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think sometimes people jump on social media, 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: they make comments. You think, hang on a sec. You 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: don't actually know, you know, what the situation is. 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. They don't read, you know, the information 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: save for the fundraiser. You know, they're not really reading 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: the information they see daily river. So they assume we're 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: talking about the community. But here I'm talking about nine 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: or ten small privately owned businesses, not big four caravan parks, 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: but mum and dad run businesses. Some of them have 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: been there for generations. Unfortunately, when we owned one of 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: those properties, we had insurance for the twenty fifteen sixteen flood, 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: but the premiums were astronomical. Yeah, and we're talking about 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars. We weren't offered flood insurance 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: after that, and we put a lot of We built 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: a levy bank and did a lot of work to 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: mitigate floods and dammage and loss. Yeah, but most of 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: these places aren't covered by insurance, is the bottom line. 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the poor buggers, bloody hell, it's going to be terrible, 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: you know for them, Well, it's going to be tough 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: trying to rebuild it is. Tell me the access along 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Williana Road that's also been highlighted, what impact is it 71 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: having on the cleanup and the rebuilding efforts? 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Look, it's the roads are always an issue in any 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: wet season, never mind a record sort of flood level season. 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: You know, they have to be assessed by logistics and 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: infrastructure to assess that they're okay for weighted traffic, you 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So if it's a gravel road, 77 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: the gravel road has to be able to hold the 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: machinery without getting it bogged, you know, So assessing the 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: roads always takes a little bit. In this instance, I 80 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: think they sent photos through to Kathleen yesterday. Woollly on 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: a road in one section actually has a hole that 82 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: the road's missing. It's now part of the river. 83 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Crazy stuff. 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: That is not going to be equip fit. No unfortunate 85 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: cerly as members of the public who are driving around 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: that to access fishing land based fishing, and the area 87 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: still is under emergency declaration, so there are penalties for 88 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: people accessing the area, and of course the more people 89 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: using a road, the more damage is done. So the 90 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: people who need to be there, like the owners and 91 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: residents that are trying to clean up and rebuild. 92 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: They're the ones who actually need to be on it. Yeah, 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: people wanting to go for a fish. 94 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And. 95 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Look we all love a fish, I get it, but 96 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, like just have a think about the people 97 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: that actually live out there and have businesses out there 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: and the difficulties that they are undergoing at the moment. 99 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Margaret tell me the Albanezi and the finocci Aio governments 100 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: this morning have activated more than twelve point four million dollars, 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: they're saying in support for small businesses and not for 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: profit organizations that have been impacted by the flooding. Have 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: you received much detail about that and what kind of 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: impact is it going to have? 105 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: Look so, our local member Darren Young for Daily actually 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: emailed me that this morning and I have had a 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: chat with both Ken Davies and Tony Fullock, which has 108 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: been great. To my knowledge, the financial packages are around 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars, which you know, in the bigger picture, Well, 110 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: at this point, so people who don't have electricity, and 111 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: no one has electricity, so everyone's running fuel generators. Unfortunately, 112 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: if electricity isn't restored quickly, that money is going to 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: be eaten up in fuel, the cost of fuel. But 114 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars is better than nothing. But when you're 115 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: looking at you've lost your home, so all your white goods, 116 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: your furniture, you're betting, you know, never mind your business part. 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars doesn't go very far. But in perspective, 118 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: you know, we aren't the only area that's been affected 119 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: by flooding and cyclones this wet season, and money's just 120 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: not an endless supply unfortunately. 121 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, But is there more that you would 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: like to see or is there other kind of support 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: that you'd like to see from either tier of government 124 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: at this point. 125 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, we'd like a coordinated sort of approach to what's 126 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: happening down there. Some people are being told, you know, 127 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: get your certificate of compliance organized and will put your 128 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: power back on, and other people are being told you 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: could be without power for some time. I sort of 130 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: spoke to Ken Davies this morning about that. You know, 131 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: we need a more coordinated approach so that everyone's getting 132 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: accurate communication from the government. You know, obviously extra funding 133 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: would be great, but again, you know money, money's are 134 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: always an issue, isn't it. 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret, do you know what I love about you? 136 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: You're so bloody practical. You know, you're not even good there, 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, like you're you guys have so many residents 138 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: out there, you've been through, you know, such a difficult situation, 139 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: but you're being so pragmatic about it now. I guess 140 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: that that probably shows the the absolute toughness and resilience 141 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: of the residents of the Daily region. And and you know, 142 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: your proper territory tough. But but gee, you know it's 143 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough clean up for you all. It's 144 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: going to be tough to get back to normal for 145 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: for all of those businesses. And and you know, I 146 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: think that anything that we as Territorians can do to 147 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: try and help you guys down the track, you know, 148 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: we all sort of want to want to make sure 149 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that we can. 150 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think as soon as these businesses 151 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: are in a position to open, you know, bums on 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: seats would be great for everyone. Yeah, I'm sure the 153 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: barrel will still be there. Yeah, and yeah, they'll be 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: welcoming you know, customers back to their parts as soon 155 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: as they can, so that support will be really appreciated 156 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: because I think the interstate tourists are going to be 157 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: a bit light on this season with the cost of fuel. 158 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, you're right. 159 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: So supporting local business is going to be really important 160 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: this year. 161 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Well, Margaret, please keep in contact with us, let us 162 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: know how things are going, because you know, as I said, 163 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: people are going to want to support all of the 164 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: businesses there, so please keep in contact with us. I 165 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: really appreciate the time that you've given us over the 166 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: last few weeks under what's been really difficult circumstances for 167 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: you all. 168 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. Katie really appreciate sort of having the opportunity 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: to bring the attention to what's happening out there for everyone. 170 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, we thank you and Kathleen for your time. 171 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Anytime, anytime, Margaret, thank you. We'll talk to you again soon. 172 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, take care of you two