1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, and welcome to the Daily ODS. Is Thursday, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the second of June for those along the Eastern seaboard. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: We are absolutely shivering through this start to winter, but 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: I hope everybody is having a good week. We've got 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today in the fast fashion space. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: The collapse of a big global brand has raised some 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: questions about the industry. Plenty to come about that, But 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: first Zara or what is making news this morning. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Other than how freezing cold it is? Yesterday was a 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: big day in New South Wales with affirmative consent laws 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: coming into effect in the state. What this means, basically 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: is that consent must be actively sought and communicated through 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: words or actions. We have the New South Wales Attorney 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: General Mark's Speakment saying in a statement the consent reforms 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: are not just about holding perpetrators to account, but changing 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: social behavior with clearer rules of engagement to drive down 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: the rate of sexual assaults. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Tune into this story if you are looking to buy 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: your first home. Australia has recorded its first overall fall 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: in house prices for the first time since September twenty twenty, 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: according to property research company core Logic, Overall national house 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: prices fell by only zero point one percent in May, 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: but it is still going down. The decline was led 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: by Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra regional areas, and other capital 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: cities recorded an increase. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: Shanghai, China's most populated city, has partially eased its harsh 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: lockdown after two full months. Some restrictions were relaxed at 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: midnight on Tuesday night, including on public transport and retail. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: That all said, however, some restrictions do remain in place, 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: and China remains committed to its zero COVID policy. 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: And today's good news, Monarch butterflies have seen a resurgence 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: in Mexico after being at risk for years. According to 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: a new study from the World Wildlife Funder, the area 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: occupied by Eastern monarchs in Mexican forests grew thirty five 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: percent from December twenty twenty to the same month in 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Zara, there is nothing like a butterfly 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: themed good news to bring in your Thursday morning. 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So Sam, today we are talking fast fashion. That 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: is because fast fashion Giant Misguided is on the brink 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: of collapse. On Tuesday, the company went into administration suppliers 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: say they are owed millions of dollars. The company's website 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: has been taken down and it's believed many workers have 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: been let go. I guess a good starting point, sam 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: is how did Misguided get here? And what happens next 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: in a situation like this? Well, why don't we go 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: through what Misguided actually do? They're a UK based fashion company. 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Most of their production facilities are still in the UK 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: and they are founded in two thousand and nine by 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Nithan Passi. So like rival companies Boohoo and Shean, it's 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: best known for fast fashion, which basically means very cheap 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: clothing made very quickly on mass. Misguided have had their 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: controversies over the years. In twenty nineteen, it marketed a 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: one pound bikini that's about a dollar seventy six here 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: in Australia on sale in the UK that was said 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: to encourage this idea of wearing something once and throwing 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: it away. They also have faced a number of underpayment 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: scandals over the last few years, with calls that they're 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: paying their factory workers very little and well under the 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: legal limits. And they've been a big sponsor of Love Island, 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: which has also gotten them in a bit of trouble 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: from time to time. So a question that comes up 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: a lot with these fast fashion companies is how much 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: they're worth. And we don't have the exact figure for Misguided, 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: but we do know that they turn over hundreds of 65 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: millions of dollars worth of sales every year. But like 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: many of these fast fashion operators, they have operated at 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: a loss for several years. So they recorded a loss 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: of twenty six million pounds in twenty eighteen, and this 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: was put down to the facts that the company wasn't 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: clearing stock quickly enough, the idea that they were going 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: too fast for their consumer. But like many online retailers, 72 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Misguida did pretty well during the pandemic because we all 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: shopped from home, we all spent our money online. This 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: all changed though, by the end of twenty twenty one, 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: when financial difficulties at the company really came to the 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: surface and there were reports around that the company was 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: seeking millions of dollars in emergency funding just to keep 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: their suppliers and their customers happy. These difficulties now are 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: really really at the forefront. Suppliers are complaining of outstanding 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: payments and now the company has gone into administration. For 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: anyone who is listening who isn't familiar with what administration means, 82 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: can you just take us through what it means and 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: what the implications are for when a company actually does 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: enter administration. 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think the first thing to acknowledge if you 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: haven't heard of administration, congratulations, because it's not a very 87 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: good place for a company to be. It's a legal 88 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: status available to companies. They don't have to declare themselves 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: in administration if they can't pay the money that they 90 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: owe suppliers, investors, retailers, or customers. What happens when a 91 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: company enters a period of administration is that they appoint 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: a professional administrator, and this administrator essentially comes into the 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: role of almost a CEO type of figure, and they 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: then control all the assets. And there are companies that 95 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: are built to just come in in these situations and 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: be the voluntary administrators to sort out whether a company 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: needs to be fully folded or liquidated or if it 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: can be sold or revived. Importantly, what this means is 99 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: that owners relinquished control of the company and that in 100 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: turn protects them from legal action by anyone they owe 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: money to. So it's kind of if you're the visualizer, 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: that's the founders throwing their hands up in the air 103 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: and saying, we're not sure how to save this business. 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: We're going to hand it to the professional rescuers. If 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: they can't do it, we know that in good faith, 106 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: we really did try our best. So then it's up 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: to the ads and the administrator doesn't have to pay 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: back all the debt, but they can do whatever steps 109 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: they think are necessary to resolve the situation. They can 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: shut down various arms of the company, they can make 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: whole sections of the workforce redundant. And in this case, 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: the administrators plan to sell the business and its assets. Now. 113 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: The big problems are with selling the business is that 114 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: you need a buyer. So they're looking for a buyer now, 115 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: and the buyers that have been mentioned online. There's no 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of firm leader in this race, but it seems 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: to be Boohoo, another fast fashioned giant Asos has been 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: mentioned in some of these dealings, but otherwise, you know 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: a smattering of other retailers around the world. But retailers 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: are pretty battered at the moment. There's a lot of 121 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: economic pressures and I'm not sure how many of them 122 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: are going to jump at the opportunity to buy a 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: brand with so much debt attached to it. One thing 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: to consider though, in that discussion about buying Misguided, is 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: that they could also just buy it and slap a 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: different name on it and relaunch it as a different brand, 127 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: or just make it part of their own brands, So 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: it can work in some cases. We'll have to wait 129 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: and see whether someone jumps into the bargain bin to 130 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: save Misguided from disappearing altogether. 131 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Fast fashion is clearly a really really interesting topic and 132 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: something that's coming up more and more in the news. 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: What's next for the industry, For the fast fashion industry, 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: if you can call it that, well. 135 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: I think this goes to the question of what went 136 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: wrong for Misguided. I think customers and we see this 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: when we talk to the Daily Oz audience, they're moving 138 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: towards clothing brands that preference sustainability and ethics. We're seeing 139 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: a big shift in the way that we're using our 140 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: money to express our decisions about the climate and our 141 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: political views as well. The ethics of the business model 142 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: of fast fashion is concerning. A UK government report in 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen wrote about excessive waste attached to Misguided and 144 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: shocking labor conditions in the fast fashion industry that come 145 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: from selling the products at such low prices. The committee 146 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: was shocked by how government orders were treated when they 147 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: visited Misguided's UK factories. They said in the report, if 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: this is how factory owners treat potential customers, we dread 149 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: to think of the conditions endured by their workers. That 150 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: is a pretty damning report. This report wasn't just about Misguided, 151 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: It was about sixteen retailers who had a range of 152 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: sustainability and labor ethics issues. Misguided was though, one of 153 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: the worst performers, and they only took action after the 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: report on three of the thirteen metrics. In terms of 155 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the future of fast fashion, these growing concerns about sustainability 156 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: are putting big pressure on this industry. Actually, in March 157 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: this year, the European Commission announced a proposal to end 158 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: fast fashion altogether in the European Union by twenty thirty. 159 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: This proposal would introduce eco friendly design requirements for clothes 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and measures to improve reuse, repair and recycling. And they 161 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: want to see the entire industry gone in the next 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: eight years. So if the European Union adopts that proposal. 163 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: It's fair to say the future of fast fashion and 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Misguided is not particularly bright. 165 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: It'll definitely be interesting to see whether other fast fashion 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: brands end up following this same trajectory as Misguided. I mean, 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: she certainly seems to be going from strength to strength, 168 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 2: but at some point it does appear that consumers will 169 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: turn away from this fast fashion. Whether or not that 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: happens sooner rather than later remains to be seen, but 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: definitely something that we are keeping a keen eye on. 172 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: That is all we have time for today. However, thank 173 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us on today's episode of 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 2: The Daily Odds. If you want to keep up to 175 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: date on what is happening throughout the day, follow us 176 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: on Instagram at the Daily Ods. It's wherever three hundred 177 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: and sixty thousand dollarsies get their news every day and 178 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: we would love to have you over there. Have a 179 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: brilliant Thursday