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Speaker 1: Is that time of the year.

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Speaker 2: We're on the eve of maps God, we I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but we love this show.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad we're ten seasons in. So delightful to

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Speaker 3: be able to share it knowing that it started back

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Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen and no one really knew that it

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Speaker 3: would go anywhere, and now it's gone into one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty countries around the world, which relationship experts.

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Speaker 4: Good to see back in Perth here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. I mean, I can't believe it's the

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Speaker 2: tenth season. Tenth season, But haven't things changed over those

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Speaker 2: ten years? John, Absolutely, ten years ago when those people

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Speaker 2: were on the couch, they would not in a million

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Speaker 2: years have thought of giving you the batchat that you

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Speaker 2: get these days.

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Speaker 4: So innocent, they hadn't seen any previous series.

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Speaker 3: That's right, And you make a really good point. Now

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Speaker 3: when we sit down at those commitment ceremonies, it is

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Speaker 3: game on. We are going to have to hold a

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Speaker 3: mirror up to them and call them out for their

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Speaker 3: bad behavior. Please do also know that they're coming after us,

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Speaker 3: and in a way that's some of the secret source

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Speaker 3: to the show, because you don't see that normally in reality. TV,

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Speaker 3: whether where the hosts or the experts are called out

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Speaker 3: by the participants on our show, that happens regularly, and

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Speaker 3: you know, at times you have to yell at them.

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Speaker 4: Right, and they're unapologetic when they're coming back.

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Speaker 2: That's because at times they act like children.

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Speaker 3: And it is becoming last years and it's more and

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Speaker 3: more now a role of us as experts to really

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Speaker 3: hold their feet to the fire. And frankly, a number

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Speaker 3: of them have never been spoken to like that before.

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Speaker 3: It's a real shock to them.

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Speaker 5: But in your role, you have a responsibility because there's

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Speaker 5: vulnerable souls coming on these shows as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And because it's such a short, sharp

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Speaker 3: period of time that we have with them, really a

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Speaker 3: commitment serremony once a week, we have to make sure

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Speaker 3: that when we do go hard at them, that they

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Speaker 3: can that has traction, that it's going to resonate, and

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Speaker 3: that they might just think I could do this differently,

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Speaker 3: I could do this better, even though they don't.

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Speaker 2: That's an element of the show that's never lost on

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Speaker 2: me really is that you know, we watch it all

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Speaker 2: week and we said what they're saying to each other

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Speaker 2: is that, but you guys only do get And I

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Speaker 2: often think, well, you don't know, these guys don't know

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Speaker 2: what might have happened during the week, and that's such

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Speaker 2: and such and what such and such said to the

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Speaker 2: couple down the hallway. And that's sort of the dynamics

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Speaker 2: that go on there because everyone's in everyone's business throwing.

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Speaker 3: You're right, And I think about private practice, which I

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Speaker 3: used to work in. You don't know what has gone

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Speaker 3: on with the couples you've seen since last week, so

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Speaker 3: you're just really responding to whatever's in front of you.

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Speaker 3: And Maps is very much like that, and she's literally

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Speaker 3: you're going into the commitment ceremonies and you're just flying

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Speaker 3: by the city of Pants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. John married at First Sight, Australia, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 5: not far away from starting. Let's talk about a problem

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Speaker 5: called Harrison. So this guy is going to cause a

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Speaker 4: Oh he is.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be a lightning odd for the season.

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Speaker 3: He's very confident, he's been apologetic about who he is,

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Speaker 3: his opinions, and you know when you watch him, you

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Speaker 3: will have different reactions. So how he behaves not only

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Speaker 3: think there are people that have that sort of strong

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Speaker 3: personality out there. It's a slash life, it is, and

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Speaker 3: people often say, you know, it must be scripted.

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Speaker 4: They're not real.

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Speaker 3: These people. They are and they're very unpredictable and they

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Speaker 1: And he's just one of the many this year that

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Speaker 1: he has bombshells that go off throughout the season that

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Speaker 1: will keep you absolutely riveted.

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Speaker 2: In addition to the usual, you know, bombshells that do

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Speaker 2: twist this season. Can you tell us anything?

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Speaker 3: What I can tell you is we do this so

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Speaker 3: that we keep the participants on their toes because after

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Speaker 3: And so we've got to throw things at them that

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Speaker 3: what their relationships like. You know, because when you're a

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Speaker 3: someone close to them saying, hey, think again what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Here's some honest feedback for It's very fascinating to see

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Speaker 3: how they handle that, and there's a couple of real

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Speaker 5: We can't give too much away about the first episode,

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Speaker 5: which we've played ls LO at the Channel nine four Love,

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Speaker 5: but what.

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Speaker 3: I can say is that there is a huge bombshell

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Speaker 3: on throughout the experiment and the group struggles with it.

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Speaker 3: We also see in that first episode the issue of sex,

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Speaker 3: particularly who initiates it, how much you have in a relationship,

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Speaker 3: That topic comes up very early on. So I think

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Speaker 3: this first episode it's a ripper. But also it told

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Speaker 3: me something that I wasn't aware of, which is that

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Speaker 3: the show is now very international. I didn't know it

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Speaker 3: went into one hundred and twenty countries.

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Speaker 2: As in the Australian version.

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Speaker 4: In the UK and yeah, yeah, and I just.

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Speaker 2: Over Christmas I watched the UK version because Mel went

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Speaker 2: over and did the UK version, and I thought, these

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Speaker 2: people are modeling themselves on our couples. They've really I

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Speaker 4: Down that right, adopted that. Yeah, they've adopted it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right, and it's a very real

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Speaker 3: option for them now after our show, the participants to

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Speaker 3: of reality TV over.

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Speaker 2: The end up on The Only Way Is Essex Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Last year, I've got to be honest, I didn't like

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Speaker 2: a lot of the people. It's last year. It was

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Speaker 2: tough to watch. Is there any chance of a bit

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Speaker 2: of a cam and jeweles type, you know, match this year?

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Speaker 3: There is some real love in the.

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Speaker 4: Wedding seems like an absolutely sweet story.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, they can change, I can turn but yeah no,

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a great, great match. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: What we can't be sure of is what the camera

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Speaker 3: the pressure they get under. They can't pretend when they're

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Speaker 3: you're left with who is this real person? And do

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Speaker 3: they really want to commit? And look at their behavior

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Speaker 3: and longevity, and you know a number of them just

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Speaker 1: But it is.

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Speaker 3: It is compelling, and I think it appeals to those

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Speaker 3: got to avoid that person, and couples watch it and

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Speaker 3: we've got to stop talking like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it has this really large reach that I

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Speaker 3: don't even think we set out to do that, but

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Speaker 3: that seems. And people learn what not to do by

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Speaker 2: That's a cautial retail, but it's not a bad way

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Speaker 3: It is very real when you watch someone and you

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Speaker 3: go oh. Because this year particularly, some of the communication

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately a lot of our participants like to say

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Speaker 3: I'm just speaking my truth and that comes out a lot.

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Speaker 3: So one of our roles is to teach them that

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Speaker 3: being honest is fine, but you've got to be respectful.

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Speaker 3: Being offensive and cruel that's not being honest, that's just

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Speaker 2: Because they are the first ones then to jump up

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Speaker 2: find We've got to find where we're sitting here on

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Speaker 2: all this about speaking our truth and looking out for

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the big challenges we have this

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Speaker 3: year is just how they speak to each other. And

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Speaker 3: we saw it last year with the women, Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: a much bigger role to play. Throughout the series, you

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Speaker 5: The look out for Harrison the trade, who's across between

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Speaker 5: a rugby league kind of body and a Hymnsworth.

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Speaker 2: It starts seven point thirty January thirty on Channel nine.

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Speaker 2: As always, we can't wait. Thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 3: Good to chat with you in person, mate, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: look its great to be Thank you for supporting it

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Speaker 3: and it's so nice to be able to do this.

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Speaker 4: For a decade.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know, it's changed my life. Very privileged

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Speaker 3: to be a part of it. It's more to come.

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Speaker 4: Thanks John, Thanks thanks guys. Married at First Sight Mats

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Speaker 4: is back John aikm