Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV reloadan podcast last week. They're by Stacy. Thank you
Speaker 1: for joining me on TV Reload today, my long standing friend,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't deleted me.
Speaker 2: Well, I've tried a million times, and you keep creating
Speaker 2: these other fake profiles reading me.
Speaker 1: Well, we've been talking garbage for about eleven years now.
Speaker 1: But you know what's really interesting about it is that
Speaker 1: we haven't collaborated on really anything since doing Big Brother,
Speaker 1: And for a lot of people listening to this, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know we did Big Brother because it was
Speaker 1: so long ago.
Speaker 2: It was very long ago. I'm definitely irrelevant now, but
Speaker 2: you're still trying to fly the flag quite hard. Then
Speaker 2: thanks for bringing me out of the fame.
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Speaker 1: rotating guests that will unpack all of your favorite TV
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Speaker 1: be discussing Australian Idol, Married at First Sight, Australian Survivor,
Speaker 1: and then we're going to finish off the pod with
Speaker 1: some you know what to watch, which is Amazon Prime
Speaker 1: have a new show with Nicole Kidman, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you about that.
Speaker 2: You're going to just talk at me about Nicole Kibben
Speaker 2: the whole time.
Speaker 1: Look, there's also a long awaited second series of a
Speaker 1: TV show on Apple Plus, which took seven years for
Speaker 1: them to make the second season, So we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about that. And there's also a new series on SBS,
Speaker 1: and I have to ask you, do you watch any
Speaker 1: SBS at all at your place?
Speaker 2: I really love SBS and I think I'm going to
Speaker 2: name a few shows and they're probably going to be
Speaker 2: ABC ones, but then also one that I am obsessed
Speaker 2: with and I know was definitely on SBS. It's not Australian,
Speaker 2: so I don't even want to talk about it. But
Speaker 2: season five of Fargo. Have you watched that?
Speaker 1: No? But should I watch that?
Speaker 2: It is the most incredible. So for those that are listening,
Speaker 2: there has been five seconds of Fargo and it's set
Speaker 2: off the show that was from years ago, and the
Speaker 2: first one had Billy Bob Thorton in it, then the
Speaker 2: second one had Curs and Dunce, but this one's got
Speaker 2: the girl from Ted lasso in It and John Hands
Speaker 2: for John Ham seest man on the like very sexy,
Speaker 2: dilfy vibes.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, have you tried to zoom in on all
Speaker 1: of his photos to see his crutch?
Speaker 2: Because oh, this is what I'm telling you about Fargo,
Speaker 2: Because in the second episode you get to see his
Speaker 2: full last wig an ass shot.
Speaker 1: It's the full Ham.
Speaker 2: We get the full wee get to eat the full Ham.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, I just I just really love it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm obsessed. I'm gonna watch it and watch all
Speaker 1: five seasons by the end of today.
Speaker 2: Report back.
Speaker 1: So we need to kick this off with merret at
Speaker 1: first sight and I don't know much about what your
Speaker 1: relationship with this show is. But it's back and it's
Speaker 1: bigger than ever. Australia's favorite social experiment returns for its
Speaker 1: most polarizing season of next level drama and a whole
Speaker 1: lot of love. But look, it's back on Channel nine.
Speaker 1: This season of Maths will push the limits on everything
Speaker 1: viewers think they know about the series. There will be
Speaker 1: even more heart pounding romance, highly addictive drama with twists,
Speaker 1: turns and shots. Even beyond final vows. There will be rivalry,
Speaker 1: betrayals and heartbreak. Of course, I mean this is maps right,
Speaker 1: so it kind of.
Speaker 2: It's totally enoughs And look, I going back to your
Speaker 2: question about you know what my relationship is. I was
Speaker 2: such a lover from the first series, like it was groundbreaking.
Speaker 2: You remember when it came out, We're all like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what was this. It was a whole gay
Speaker 2: marriage thing, they can get married. I was picketing for that,
Speaker 2: but then started to get into that wish wash and
Speaker 2: I guess it was similar to Big Brother. I remember
Speaker 2: it was so groundbreaking when it started. Everyone was obsessed,
Speaker 2: and it just starts to get into the same format,
Speaker 2: the same dramas, the same scandals, the same idiots just
Speaker 2: want to up their Instagram following. I logged off the
Speaker 2: past couple of years because it just I felt and look,
Speaker 2: I'm the dumbest bitch of at most times. But as
Speaker 2: I said, when I watched it, I felt dumber from
Speaker 2: watching these people because it was so obvious what they
Speaker 2: wanted for. But you making me want it to talk
Speaker 2: about on this podcast. I was really pleasantly surprised, and
Speaker 2: I got hope this year. I think the producers have
Speaker 2: kind of taken that feedback on board. Not for me
Speaker 2: personally obviously.
Speaker 1: Because I emailed them late at night while eating some doritos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sending a voice memos. Hey. From what I've
Speaker 2: seen from the first episode, I really I'm really excited
Speaker 2: to see like the craziness of what's going to happen
Speaker 2: this year, but also the love because you can see
Speaker 2: I feel like they've really matched these people quite.
Speaker 1: Well, and you love to love.
Speaker 2: I have to love.
Speaker 1: The introduction though of this year's participants. I thought was
Speaker 1: really quite amazing as well, because it does sort of
Speaker 1: live and die on how well we connect to these
Speaker 1: personality types. Right, do you already have any favorites, because
Speaker 1: I feel like with this show, my favorites are the
Speaker 1: ones that I love to hate totally.
Speaker 2: Look and I think they were pretty soft with these
Speaker 2: first two Sarah and Timan and Cassandra's. But what they
Speaker 2: do quite well is they blend them all together and
Speaker 2: then they do a really good story on the two
Speaker 2: that you would end up flipping and hating. So like,
Speaker 2: for example, I was watching the Sarah and Tim and
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, he's really amazing. He loves Ethio.
Speaker 2: He's going to be amazing. And then you get to
Speaker 2: the Best Man's speech and sounds like he's like happy
Speaker 2: to let anyone go down on him, do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like it's it's a very weird flip
Speaker 2: so like it's very up and down. It's like you
Speaker 2: love this person, you like, I'm already setting this dude
Speaker 2: up with my friends. If it's not it's not working
Speaker 2: out with the fake accent chick.
Speaker 1: And then I think her accent's real. I think Sarah's
Speaker 1: accents real. She's from Columbia, maybe she was there on
Speaker 1: a holiday.
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced. The fake accent is a unique selling
Speaker 2: point for any talent. That's what I think she's gunning
Speaker 2: in for. Actually, I'm telling you now, she's a nutritionist.
Speaker 2: Like I bet every dollar in my bank account and
Speaker 2: we got a triple at which is all the fifty
Speaker 2: dollars that she has some fitness platform like a sand
Speaker 2: By twenty eight wood thing.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, why wouldn't she And you deserve that, Sarah,
Speaker 1: You deserve that, Sarah. You know I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about that whole Best Man's speech and what they
Speaker 1: are alluding to. How did you read that? Because he
Speaker 1: said that. Did he say that he got head in
Speaker 1: a car.
Speaker 2: Like a hedge job addict? Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: if that sounds rude.
Speaker 1: But were they still the same story. Did you think
Speaker 1: they got head in the car and then ended up
Speaker 1: in hospital or do you think that he got head
Speaker 1: in the car and then went to hospital and then
Speaker 1: got head again I could have woke out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually the point.
Speaker 1: And was it a nurse. Were they alluding to the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, some doctor just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: doctor doctor, give me the news, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: down on you like maybe.
Speaker 2: I yeah, actually is a really good plan, Like maybe
Speaker 2: he was in the car and then like because they
Speaker 2: got pulled over or whatever, he couldn't finish and so
Speaker 2: then when something happened, they had to go to the
Speaker 2: hospital and.
Speaker 1: Where someone else finished him up. Or is it the
Speaker 1: same person dorecon Surely it was the.
Speaker 2: Same person, And they sound like they're quite into the
Speaker 2: whole idea of it. It's like doing the promiscuous toot
Speaker 2: and beeping around town.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I want to know of your opinion
Speaker 1: of this, because you got married a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago and you have to select a certain type of
Speaker 1: people to get up and represent you. So they're going
Speaker 1: to get up and make your best man's speech, your
Speaker 1: bridesmaid speech, and there's a certain amount of responsibility that
Speaker 1: you're handing over to someone. And I think it's a
Speaker 1: representation of the relationship. The wedding, the people that are
Speaker 1: getting married, the people that get up should be telling
Speaker 1: stories that represent the love that exists in that relationship
Speaker 1: a polutely.
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, that's the reason why I asked you
Speaker 2: to EMC at our wedding. And there was a dildo
Speaker 2: joke within the first two minutes, which I love and
Speaker 2: was an absolute hit. But you want to pick those
Speaker 2: people that really love you and that really know you
Speaker 2: every inch ofview from the funny stories, but really it's
Speaker 2: all it should be all hot and obviously that's why
Speaker 2: I chose you to talk about us and through my
Speaker 2: EMC my wedding, and the same thing should go with
Speaker 2: your best man and whatever. It's similar to the Cassandra
Speaker 2: and Tristan like that wedding just looked so gorgeous and
Speaker 2: when the dad got up, it was the most beautiful,
Speaker 2: moving speech, and that's what it really should be.
Speaker 1: Like, how do you vet someone. Do you think that
Speaker 1: the user has had a duty of care there? And
Speaker 1: do you believe that they would have read that guy's
Speaker 1: speech and gone this is this is bonkers. Do you
Speaker 1: think they would have added stuff to that? Do you
Speaker 1: think they would have egged him on? Because I just
Speaker 1: don't believe. This doesn't land well for me. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a bit of a TV moment that's kind
Speaker 1: of been staged because I can't imagine anyone is going
Speaker 1: to get up and say that kind of stuff at
Speaker 1: your wedding.
Speaker 2: I've been to some really boguan weddings, like where a
Speaker 2: lot of like a lot of the speeches are really random,
Speaker 2: and like that's the thing, Like you've got a lot
Speaker 2: of about to say. I don't want to share this speech.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a surprise. Like I've honestly been
Speaker 2: to a lot of them where they're not nearly as
Speaker 2: bad as the King of these jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, but it was pretty bad. You know.
Speaker 1: The other question I wanted to ask you because you
Speaker 1: did bring up Cassandra and Tristan and their wedding and
Speaker 1: how amazing it was. We did get to see some
Speaker 1: very heartbreaking stories when it came to Cassandra, I mean
Speaker 1: her original book. You know, her long standing high school
Speaker 1: sweetheart had died, her mum had passed away. Do you
Speaker 1: think that this show abuses its participants by selecting people
Speaker 1: who might be just a little bit too fragile for
Speaker 1: this experiment.
Speaker 2: You could probably look at it that way, But I
Speaker 2: think we look at it that way if we see
Speaker 2: her running into a train crash of a marriage, but
Speaker 2: by hand on her. Honestly, think with someone like her,
Speaker 2: I would say they need an extra duty of care
Speaker 2: because they've already been through such a mental load of
Speaker 2: crap through life and losing people so close to them,
Speaker 2: Like there's nothing worse than what that woman has experienced.
Speaker 2: Like so I feel like they probably already set out
Speaker 2: that they're going to be the success story, and then
Speaker 2: they probably focused on them, and then I reckon the
Speaker 2: Joe blows in between, the crazy people, the Byron Bay Lady,
Speaker 2: like they're going to be up, They're going to be
Speaker 2: the seat fillers and just bring the content. But there's
Speaker 2: always those speckles of the real love stories that eighty
Speaker 2: percent going to work. And like there's so many mass
Speaker 2: couples that have gone on to have marriage, babe marriages,
Speaker 2: and it's nice to see. So I feel like their aim,
Speaker 2: I reckon is to have like one of those successful
Speaker 2: couples throughout the season and then their jobs done.
Speaker 1: The question I then need to ask you is, out
Speaker 1: of those two marriages that we saw in the first episode,
Speaker 1: do you think either of those relationships are going to
Speaker 1: work long term? And when I say long term, I
Speaker 1: don't mean just getting to the end of the show
Speaker 1: and collecting all your followers. Would either of these two
Speaker 1: relationships exist in the real world without the camera.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to know. It's hard to know
Speaker 2: from the first episode, but like you do see speckles.
Speaker 2: I could probably put money on Cassin and Tristan because
Speaker 2: they seem quite well suited. But the other two, I
Speaker 2: don't know. They it's already she got chitsy at the
Speaker 2: wedding and the friends are kind of already diving in
Speaker 2: and it's just bad vibes from the get go. It's
Speaker 2: a shame. But if you've got problems from day one
Speaker 2: or things that are robbing you the wrong way from
Speaker 2: day one, like it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: Coming But maybe they're just the battle lines being drawn
Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think these two big personalities
Speaker 1: have got together. Interestingly enough, at the end of the
Speaker 1: episode where we saw Tim saying to Sarah to calm down,
Speaker 1: and I love that because you know, in the history
Speaker 1: of telling anyone to calm down when they're fully bonkers,
Speaker 1: no one's ever calmed down. And it's I wanted to know,
Speaker 1: in your relationship, if Grant told you to calm down
Speaker 1: in an argument, how would you react. Would you react
Speaker 1: like Sarah or you know, would you divorce.
Speaker 2: Him literally divorced? I would roll him down the hill,
Speaker 2: push him onto the highway, and tell him in the
Speaker 2: history of my calmness, it's not right now. But there's
Speaker 2: just like it's a one on one you never tell
Speaker 2: like I'm with her on that. I was with Sarah
Speaker 2: on that. I was like, it's in a way that
Speaker 2: the men say it too. It's so blan It's like
Speaker 2: calm down, no, no, no, no. He was like, oh,
Speaker 2: calm down, Like it's such a it's just such a
Speaker 2: condescending man to say. I just effing hate it. I'm
Speaker 2: not into it. My blood world.
Speaker 1: Seeing that you know things about this show that I
Speaker 1: really enjoy, though, is what they've borrowed from other shows.
Speaker 1: Did you know that when they were structuring those relationship
Speaker 1: experts and having those moments that we'll see later in
Speaker 1: the season where they watch those dinner parties, they're literally
Speaker 1: goggle boxing what's actually happening on the show. And it
Speaker 1: was really clever decision and it is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things about Maths. I love watching these three people
Speaker 1: talk about the contestants. It really is like watching someone
Speaker 1: goggle box what's happening?
Speaker 2: What about? Can we talk about that Alessandra woman, like
Speaker 2: she's the world's sexiest woman, Like there's something about her
Speaker 2: that's so beautiful, and then it's the accent on top
Speaker 2: and she's kind of like this j Loo Sophia Vigara
Speaker 2: kind of like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes I speak Brazilian, so yes, I understood exactly what
Speaker 1: you said there, and that is that you wish that
Speaker 1: you're Brazilian and you're coming back in your next life
Speaker 1: as her.
Speaker 2: She can be saying something we have no idea what
Speaker 2: she's saying about love and sex and whatever, but you're
Speaker 2: just kind of annoying at her, going yes, whenever you say, queen,
Speaker 2: clean up the.
Speaker 1: Love, will you know that. I love to give you
Speaker 1: a name drop. But I was out at a gay
Speaker 1: night club in Sydney. Don't know why you weren't there,
Speaker 1: because you were born there. I was drinking with farmer Dave,
Speaker 1: who you would know, and so we were having shots
Speaker 1: at the bar and she happened to be standing next
Speaker 1: to us, and so we did shots with Alessandra at
Speaker 1: a gay night club in Sydney. Is that not the
Speaker 1: campus thing you've ever heard?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's absolutely heaven.
Speaker 1: And she was willing. She was the one who said,
Speaker 1: I said, can I buy you a drink? Because we
Speaker 1: were talking to her because obviously, you know, anyone's famous
Speaker 1: in the room, I've stuck to them like glue. And
Speaker 1: she said yeah. She was like, I can't do the accent,
Speaker 1: and I would probably be being racist if I tried,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she suggested we have shots. So we had
Speaker 1: shots with her and she was really really fun.
Speaker 2: Did you feel sexier instilling after that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean I was really there just for
Speaker 1: the photo opportunity to put it on the ground, but
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I'm upset.
Speaker 1: Okay, So just to finish off with MAVs, did you
Speaker 1: have a highlight from the episode.
Speaker 2: My highlight honestly was this sounds really weird, but the
Speaker 2: Cassandra's family, they just seem like the most beautiful, amazing
Speaker 2: people that obviously have been through really shitty time and
Speaker 2: it just gives you a little bit of hope. I
Speaker 2: think that that was my highlight, just seeing someone that
Speaker 2: had a bit of a shit time in life now
Speaker 2: she's onto something quite good.
Speaker 1: So so that's telling me that you watch this show
Speaker 1: for the heart, because you know, I know.
Speaker 2: It sounds really weird. I think it's because at first
Speaker 2: show they kind of were pulling at people's heart strings,
Speaker 2: like there wasn't any craziness, but they started to kind
Speaker 2: of mix. Oh actually no, I tell a lie who's
Speaker 2: the crazy shit with the tips everywhere? And she said
Speaker 2: she wants to root the husband, the dad, root the uncle.
Speaker 1: I think it's Lauren.
Speaker 2: I mean they sprinkled her. She seems quite good. But
Speaker 2: I really did like the Cassandra good heart kind of
Speaker 2: vine and then the sprinkle of all of the like.
Speaker 1: What's crazy the Bay Lady, the Byron Bay Lady, Listenda Light?
Speaker 1: Is she a real person? Do you reckon? She's an actor?
Speaker 1: Is she a real person?
Speaker 2: I mean you've been to Byron Bay, like I've got
Speaker 2: married there.
Speaker 1: It's like there's one on every in Byron. But anyway,
Speaker 1: look married at first sight. I've made you watch the
Speaker 1: first episode. Are you going to keep watching it? In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: I am, actually, I am, I'm going to keep watching it.
Speaker 1: Well. Australian Idol is back twenty one years after Guy
Speaker 1: Sebastian pipped Shannon Nol to become Australia's first Idol. The
Speaker 1: International star making Sensation returns to Channel seven. Radio king
Speaker 1: Kyle Sandy Lance and TV week LOGI Award winning and
Speaker 1: acclaimed singer Amy Shark are joined by og and pop
Speaker 1: legend Marsha Hines in this rebooted series. Just Forget that
Speaker 1: last year happened because it was a terrible train wreck.
Speaker 1: Where were you when this show first started on TV?
Speaker 1: Because I want to ask you how old you were?
Speaker 2: I no, do you know what? I actually think? I
Speaker 2: was living in New Zealand one this day you missed it?
Speaker 2: Was it two thousand and two or two thousand and three?
Speaker 1: Two thousand and three, So.
Speaker 2: I was living in New Zealand. But I think we
Speaker 2: got a little bit of wind of it. There, Like,
Speaker 2: we only just got television in New Zealand in two
Speaker 2: thousand and three, so it was like the first show
Speaker 2: to come on, so we still knew about it back then,
Speaker 2: but it was massive. It was an absolute phenomenon and
Speaker 2: like just generally the vibe of how many people that
Speaker 2: it can actually sing out there is kind of still
Speaker 2: quite freaky.
Speaker 1: Does Australia still want to watch singing shows though? Because
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine you and Grant watching a singing
Speaker 1: show on television. Do you still want to watch those
Speaker 1: sorts of reality, that sort of reality?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what, to be honest with you, the
Speaker 2: reason why I want to watch it is to watch
Speaker 2: the bad people singing. That's the best part for me.
Speaker 2: It's people that actually line up there for a full day,
Speaker 2: think that they've got a hope, and then they get
Speaker 2: in there and they are like, sound like a dead cat.
Speaker 2: It's the best part of it.
Speaker 1: I am too sexy for your love.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 1: His name was Louis. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was an absolute standout. That's literally how you look
Speaker 2: without makeup.
Speaker 1: Dead. He looked like he was a vampire that had
Speaker 1: just recently feasted on a body and then he came
Speaker 1: in and sung that song.
Speaker 2: Bless him, but he's a freaking he's a freak of
Speaker 2: the week. But also he looks like me, Like you know,
Speaker 2: or women will know this when you're young and you're
Speaker 2: just like trying to figure out what colorment you are
Speaker 2: with foundation and you go into the local price line
Speaker 2: and you think that you're an ivory, but really you're
Speaker 2: something else, and you're just basically having the widest face
Speaker 2: of her for about two years, but you can't afford.
Speaker 1: I actually love watching this launch episode and I was
Speaker 1: really dubious about it because I didn't enjoy last year.
Speaker 1: Super sorry Channel seven, but I actually think that Marshall
Speaker 1: Hines brings this format together really well.
Speaker 2: When I saw that she was announced as a judge, admittingly,
Speaker 2: I was like, really, like she's been away for like
Speaker 2: twenty years from the Spotlight. But I've got to say
Speaker 2: she's a queen, Like she's an un queen. She's got
Speaker 2: a very quite a calm call. She's like someone that
Speaker 2: you want to take advice from.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: She's just got that soul and she's a really beautiful
Speaker 2: person and I love look. I really love seeing her
Speaker 2: relationship with Kyle. I think he's just amazing marches to
Speaker 2: the beating of his own drum, obviously, and he doesn't
Speaker 2: mean like he actually has got a lot of heart.
Speaker 1: And she brings that out of him. It's really nice
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: It's really nice to what people said.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't watch a Strain and Iol because Kyle Sanderlanz
Speaker 1: was there, and you know those people what.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why people are so angry at him.
Speaker 2: He says the same stuff that people say online on
Speaker 2: TikTok on Instagram. It's funny. He says all the same
Speaker 2: shit that we think about and say behind their back.
Speaker 2: And look, he doesn't have a bad heart. Like for
Speaker 2: those of you that like listen to their show or
Speaker 2: whatever and see a lot of what he does. He
Speaker 2: does really good stuff. It's just this whole old kind
Speaker 2: of personality that they have, I think the idea of
Speaker 2: his old personality. But look, I think I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think I'm obsessed with Kyle and Jackio and I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with Kyle being on this show because it is
Speaker 1: showing that side of him. And kudos to Marsha for
Speaker 1: being able to bring that out. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you about nostalgia TV shows because we do see
Speaker 1: a lot of shows being brought back for the nostalgia factor,
Speaker 1: and we saw it recently with Gladiators and people only
Speaker 1: turned up for the Night one. They only wanted to
Speaker 1: turn up for the fields of Night one, and then
Speaker 1: they didn't stick around beyond that. Do you think that
Speaker 1: these nostalgia programs, stuff that we've seen on TV, you know,
Speaker 1: over twenty years, still has a place on television.
Speaker 2: There must be some research in it, because the networks
Speaker 2: keep bringing these shows back, and I think what the
Speaker 2: process would be is that maybe a new show comes
Speaker 2: on and that makes people either complain online or there's
Speaker 2: chatter or whatever to say, this show sucks, you should
Speaker 2: bring this back, you should bring this back. It was
Speaker 2: so good, And then we are really looped into that
Speaker 2: nostalgia and we're so connected to that nostalgia that anything
Speaker 2: that we compare it with, even if it's a new format,
Speaker 2: just doesn't work because it's not the old one.
Speaker 1: I think, well, it's really dangerous to be able to
Speaker 1: try and bring these shows back because people amalgamate the
Speaker 1: shows and so like, even when they bought Big Brother
Speaker 1: back for Channel seven, and they try to do something
Speaker 1: different with it. The way in which they talked about
Speaker 1: the ye oldie days, if Big Brother wasn't really what
Speaker 1: it was, they sort of conglomerated it together and they
Speaker 1: were like, for that show to work, it needs to
Speaker 1: be live, it needs to have Friday night games, and
Speaker 1: it needs to have all of these things. Well none
Speaker 1: of those things that were in the original series, where
Speaker 1: it was just Sarah Marie slapping her bum and a
Speaker 1: bunch of people that you'd go out with on a
Speaker 1: Friday night. You know.
Speaker 2: The other point to that, I think is we now
Speaker 2: interact with technology, with our own brains and with what
Speaker 2: we want to experience. Now, we don't have the attention
Speaker 2: span to sit there and watch Sarah Marie.
Speaker 1: And Chris bum yeah, or have a.
Speaker 2: Like talk shit for thirty minutes and then us relate
Speaker 2: to that to escape. We've got scrolling five minutes, tapping in,
Speaker 2: tapping out, doing this, seeing something ninety seconds of If
Speaker 2: you're not giving me anything to laugh at or that's
Speaker 2: interesting or anything a hook, then we're out.
Speaker 1: So I got up shorter. We want it sharper, we
Speaker 1: want it accessible, and we.
Speaker 2: Packed more of a punch in every single sea. You know,
Speaker 2: same with Big Brother. It's like, let's put Love Island,
Speaker 2: let's put Survivor, and let's pull Big Brother all into one.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a bad idea, but do you know
Speaker 1: what I think is working with idle And I must
Speaker 1: admit I wasn't looking forward to talking about the show
Speaker 1: today because I hadn't enjoyed it as much last year.
Speaker 1: You know, it just was a bit of a disappointment. However,
Speaker 1: I actually think that they're making this show work. It
Speaker 1: is a bit shorter and sharper and faster, and I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this launch episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually really I think and I know we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about Survivor and we're survival people. I
Speaker 2: actually think Idol was my number one because it pleasantly
Speaker 2: surprised me. It had all the bangs. Kyle Santelance cried
Speaker 2: within the first half an.
Speaker 1: Hour, brilliant. They needed that whoever's producing that show, give
Speaker 1: them a LOGI that's it.
Speaker 2: We had all the types that we had, the freak
Speaker 2: of the week, we had the girl, the thing coming
Speaker 2: out in pink, and like the funny stuff with people
Speaker 2: going no, just like turn around, honey and go home.
Speaker 2: We had, you know, the really beautiful, amazing singers we
Speaker 2: got to see go to balleratte and get to see
Speaker 2: the beautiful talent. It's kind of there.
Speaker 1: And I could have done without that. To be honest,
Speaker 1: you know what I've felt like the episode kind of
Speaker 1: being I mean, Marsha turned up and she looked like
Speaker 1: she was doing I.
Speaker 2: Don't wanted to say what she wore, like basically Willie
Speaker 2: Nelson into Amazing.
Speaker 1: She turned up and looked like she was doing cosplay
Speaker 1: from you know, Dancers with Wolves. She looked Indian, I.
Speaker 2: Think like the Harry Styles guy Ripley was in prodile.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, here's my favorite. That's what I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, who's your favorite contestant? It has
Speaker 1: to be saying.
Speaker 2: But I also the girl that came in and didn't
Speaker 2: take on any feedback and then just continued to just
Speaker 2: talk at people the entire time about how she.
Speaker 1: Can change Arena.
Speaker 2: It's basically like managing someone. She was basically like an
Speaker 2: that would be a nightmare to manage. It's like, just
Speaker 2: do this, but can I do this better? How can
Speaker 2: I do this? It's like it's the worst.
Speaker 1: She tried to Karen Marsha, which I just thought was
Speaker 1: really good television. Do I want to go back to
Speaker 1: the original point where I was talking to you about
Speaker 1: because I think the magic of this show comes down
Speaker 1: to the likability of the contestants. You can't just be
Speaker 1: a good singer. You need to have a personality type
Speaker 1: that pops. That would work if they went on trying
Speaker 1: a celebrity, which Shannon Old did, or it would work
Speaker 1: if they went onto Celebrity Apprentice, which Shannon Old did.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like Australian Idol, Whilst it's a singing show,
Speaker 1: it really lifts when we get to find an unearthed
Speaker 1: new personality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, because I.
Speaker 1: Royston from last year, great singer from Hillsong, will hold
Speaker 1: that against you. He didn't really have a personality to
Speaker 1: go with it. So whilst he was a brilliant singer,
Speaker 1: how is he going to have the longevity in an
Speaker 1: industry like Australia where you and I both know it's
Speaker 1: very small, it's very hard to get into and if
Speaker 1: you've got the personality of a Koala bear that's stuck
Speaker 1: up a tree, how are you going to sell albums?
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the purpose? Like the point like in a
Speaker 2: Hills song. Isn't that the point that you're all singing
Speaker 2: along like Sally Ane like, and you all sound really amazing.
Speaker 2: I just don't think that appeals obviously to this friend
Speaker 2: in the public. Actually I tell her because obviously it did.
Speaker 2: But there's some really incredible ones that it worked for,
Speaker 2: Like Lisa Mitchell was incredible. I think she saw No,
Speaker 2: she wasn't hell song, but she was from like an
Speaker 2: Australian singing either x actually okay, and then.
Speaker 1: Colter She's not from any religious group or any singing.
Speaker 2: No, but I don't know who styled her on this show.
Speaker 2: She doesn't look the best.
Speaker 1: I loved that dress. Do you mean that that big
Speaker 1: black dress with the little belt.
Speaker 2: I'm not into it. She needs to be She's so beautiful,
Speaker 2: she's got such an amazing figure. She needs to be
Speaker 2: in the full Beyonce esque style outfit like I'm talking
Speaker 2: the little box like they dressed her up like a
Speaker 2: mum from Bloody out West Well Stacy.
Speaker 1: Today's special guests, which I did tell you about, is
Speaker 1: Rick Coolter and she's listening right now.
Speaker 2: I loved your first outfit on the show.
Speaker 1: It was maybe it was a little bit older age for.
Speaker 2: She's such a fabulous woman, like she needs to be
Speaker 2: dressed in something better.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we both know Jol. We'll get Joel to
Speaker 1: pass it on before we leave from Australian Idol. Will
Speaker 1: you keep watching it? I feel like this is your
Speaker 1: hangover show. I feel like on Saturdays and Sunday mornings
Speaker 1: you're going to be on the laptop.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I will be doing Settle uptop hangover game. I'll
Speaker 2: still be watching. I'll probably watch it during the on
Speaker 2: the weekends and play catch up with it and then
Speaker 2: do the rest during the week.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan. On Monday night. Australian Survivor also
Speaker 1: returned to Samoa with twenty four, all new players divided
Speaker 1: into Titans versus rebels. While the Titans are described as
Speaker 1: the master of their craft, the head honchos, the overachievers,
Speaker 1: the rebels are the mavericks, the ones who don't play
Speaker 1: by the rules. Although Network ten told me to remind
Speaker 1: my listeners that Survivor challenges do have very clear rules,
Speaker 1: so you know, those rebels probably don't have much proximity
Speaker 1: to step out of but across forty seven days they
Speaker 1: will all take part in reward challenges, immunity challenges, and
Speaker 1: tribal council in the pursuit of half a million dollars.
Speaker 1: By the way, half a million, do.
Speaker 2: You think that because that might ears pricked up with
Speaker 2: that too, because no one's ever heard of that amount
Speaker 2: for years or since. Maybe the block is like that.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's because it's got such a great
Speaker 2: following homeseas that they know.
Speaker 1: I think you need to offer half a million dollars
Speaker 1: through the type of personalities that need to go on
Speaker 1: that show, because if you look at the people that apply,
Speaker 1: they aren't your and this is why I like this show.
Speaker 1: They're not your reality TV contestants that you would see
Speaker 1: on some of these other shows. They don't come across
Speaker 1: as I mean, maybe George did a little bit, and
Speaker 1: maybe there are a few people this season, Eden being
Speaker 1: one of them. You know, maybe there are a few
Speaker 1: people that want to create this big television career out
Speaker 1: of it. But I think the personality types that come
Speaker 1: to this champions in their career and willing to press
Speaker 1: paus on that to go on a reality show because
Speaker 1: they want to be challenged and they want half a
Speaker 1: million dollars and without that half a million dollars. If
Speaker 1: you were that woman who ran boost juice, what's her name, Janine,
Speaker 1: would she give up her career to go on a
Speaker 1: vivor of it wasn't half a million dollars, you know?
Speaker 2: Well, I do think for her it was something about
Speaker 2: the money. I think for her it was a mental
Speaker 2: and like to push her body into to mentally kind
Speaker 2: of push herself because for me, and this is the thing,
Speaker 2: and I assume this is a reason why half the
Speaker 2: show is zoomed in shots of their abs. Like most
Speaker 2: of these people their body and their abs. But I
Speaker 2: feel like they're people that are on the show when
Speaker 2: you're at the gym. They're the people like I'm in
Speaker 2: the corner, you know, someone's telling me to do ten
Speaker 2: ber beause I'm doing tune, just but making drawing it
Speaker 2: out the whole five minutes to make it look like ten.
Speaker 2: These are the people that are up the front that
Speaker 2: have done tens, like sit ups and things in the internut.
Speaker 2: These are the people that go that extra mile. They're
Speaker 2: the freaks of the weeks, right.
Speaker 1: I really are. I Mean I picture you only ever
Speaker 1: at the gym, drinking a lot of time perving on
Speaker 1: people and then.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling jokes like.
Speaker 1: Staying in that active way for the rest of the day.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I need new active way. If anyone's listening, I'm here,
Speaker 2: stacks muscle. I'm ready for my fitness blogging error, and
Speaker 2: I need some new sets to make sure I'm at
Speaker 2: least blending in with these bloody cool kids.
Speaker 1: What makes you love this show? Because we do both
Speaker 1: love this show. We both watch it and we would
Speaker 1: have watched it without doing this podcast today. Why do
Speaker 1: you and Granny love watching this show?
Speaker 2: Because it's got that mix of physical and but more
Speaker 2: for me, the mental. So what I love is watching
Speaker 2: the people blend where you've got the people that go
Speaker 2: oh yeah, cool, like the gym junkies that are in there,
Speaker 2: that look very strong, that can win the battles and
Speaker 2: the but then that's only like what two hours of
Speaker 2: the day when you go into the game and this,
Speaker 2: I think what we do quite well into Big Brother
Speaker 2: is really emotionally manipulating people. And that's the stuff I
Speaker 2: want to watch on TV. Absolutely at their working at
Speaker 2: their peak.
Speaker 1: It's actually a really quick question. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go down the rabbit hole with this too. Far. But
Speaker 1: with Big Brother, when we did it back in the day,
Speaker 1: you couldn't collude. You couldn't do what they do in Survivor,
Speaker 1: which is gang up on people to get them eliminated.
Speaker 1: But would you still say that when we were doing
Speaker 1: that show, there was kind of an unspoken arrangement by
Speaker 1: people like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Totally, and it naturally happens. And that's what happens on Survivor.
Speaker 2: You see people naturally form. You see the alphas look
Speaker 2: in the first episode, whether it was the Jesse versus
Speaker 2: the other Chess versus Frank Frankie, how did these people
Speaker 2: become the top of the range and how did these
Speaker 2: people become isolated to have people gang up on them
Speaker 2: straight away. They're women that are quite strong. They're women
Speaker 2: that had opinions you don't like it's one oh one,
Speaker 2: don't be seen during that first episode as having too
Speaker 2: much of a voice.
Speaker 1: I love those two women that came on that show
Speaker 1: because the first two Boots that we got to see
Speaker 1: this week were fantastic, and those women went hard and
Speaker 1: they were polarizing, and you know, it's bringing in new
Speaker 1: people to watch this show because you know, Lord knows
Speaker 1: this is a very good show with it cult following,
Speaker 1: but it needs more people to watch it if we
Speaker 1: want to keep it on television. And I think that
Speaker 1: the first week was just quite amazing. I was wondering, though,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you. I thought you'd watch
Speaker 1: this show for the men in the speedos, like Nathan
Speaker 1: and Alex in those speedos, like are you okay?
Speaker 2: That's a big part of it. But I know the
Speaker 2: actual reason why I want to watch it is because
Speaker 2: I have a massive man crush on Johnathan.
Speaker 1: And Parlier all day every day him.
Speaker 2: Like there's something about his voice, there's something about the hat,
Speaker 2: like he's just sexy man Like, he's got a vibe,
Speaker 2: like like, yeah, the running around in the speedos as
Speaker 2: they lose the weight, I'm less interested, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Into, oh my god, Like, you couldn't lose weight faster
Speaker 1: than a show like Survivor. I mean, Zempig's got nothing
Speaker 1: on these guys.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: This year, though, it's a whole cast of newbies, so
Speaker 1: audiences might might be taking a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to get to know all the players. I want to
Speaker 1: know from your first take on this show, do you
Speaker 1: have any favorites and if you need to describe them
Speaker 1: to me, so I'll tell you who they are. We
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry to know. I will say with Survivor,
Speaker 2: it's such a blender. It's really hard to know their
Speaker 2: names as soon as you first first watched the first
Speaker 2: couple of episodes. I do.
Speaker 1: Leave the name blocks on the screen for the first
Speaker 1: three episodes every time someone's talking, is what I have
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a kind of an older lady. She looks really beautiful,
Speaker 2: she's a bit older. What they're doing with her, she
Speaker 2: looks like she's going to be someone that's quite a
Speaker 2: head turner. She's got she's they keep. She kind of
Speaker 2: says a lot with her. Honest, I do like the
Speaker 2: Russian lady with the kylamino version of the blue hotpants.
Speaker 2: The least practical things ever that I bring in, so
Speaker 2: I think i'd be her friend with and she brought
Speaker 2: in the fluffy coat. I'm kind of into.
Speaker 1: Her, I Retten, that was YouTube. I mean that coat,
Speaker 1: the upside down Denise Richard's coat, the lips, the hair,
Speaker 1: the make up, the whole thing is very Stacy Wrens.
Speaker 2: And I also just love how they like have like
Speaker 2: a pole and then it's like everyone's jackets and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, dry as a bone or something like really good.
Speaker 2: They're a raincoat for someone to keep them all and
Speaker 2: her just like shitty bluffy blue puffa jacket. It's furry
Speaker 2: and it's from Sees and she's like, Yep, that's definitely
Speaker 2: what I'm taking fiber. She's going to go real far.
Speaker 1: We don't expect nothing less from you. I think if
Speaker 1: you were in Survivor, that is what you would wear.
Speaker 1: But I want to know what would your strategy be
Speaker 1: if you ended up on a series, no matter what
Speaker 1: theme it is, how would you play that game?
Speaker 2: I think exactly the way that I play. I'm a
Speaker 2: long game girl, so I'm.
Speaker 1: A social game. So you did the social game in.
Speaker 2: The social game. Yeah, I'm not a physical person, like
Speaker 2: in more ways than one, kind of get to know people,
Speaker 2: start to understand and see how things fall out, and
Speaker 2: I affirm a view and then I can just pop
Speaker 2: a teer from a farm.
Speaker 1: You understand paint like when paint like, I actually think
Speaker 1: you'd be really good at it. I think you're selling
Speaker 1: yourself short when it comes to some of those physical challenges.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking to a woman whose beauty routine
Speaker 1: involves a lot of pain. You know, if it's something
Speaker 1: in it for you, if there's something in it for you,
Speaker 1: you will get that shit done. So I actually think
Speaker 1: you'd be quite good at some of that physical stuff
Speaker 1: as well, but your social game would slay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that I've got a good view of social game.
Speaker 2: You'll probably get me throught it out, probably more earlier,
Speaker 2: but I think I could push through to the end
Speaker 2: with the beauty game. I'm telling you, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I I haven't had experienced childbirth, but getting your lips
Speaker 2: done is the very close up there to pain. That's
Speaker 2: all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: But it's every word, every bit. Do you remember when
Speaker 1: you sent me like do you think I should get
Speaker 1: this done? And we sort of back and forth with
Speaker 1: a few text messages and then you did the first
Speaker 1: one with a very light, subtle lip pricks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then a little bit more for the next one.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's it's on, like this is
Speaker 1: a podcast and people can't say it, but fuck me,
Speaker 1: those lips look great. You've got the wrong plumbing for
Speaker 1: me though, so that well, I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: you about the so called popular group. So you've got Mark, Eden, Charles, Viola, Valeria,
Speaker 1: Caroline and Kitty. They make up this misfit connection, right,
Speaker 1: and that leaves Nathan, Frankie and Jaden apparently as this
Speaker 1: popular group. But I get really confused with this whole thing,
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm watching reality shows, because is there
Speaker 1: a popular group? Like did Nathan and Frankie and Jaden
Speaker 1: behave in a way that made them look like they
Speaker 1: were Tray the alpha?
Speaker 2: They were the alphas?
Speaker 1: People so triggered by it. If you look online, people
Speaker 1: are so triggered by those three people that are Nathan,
Speaker 1: Frankie and Jaden. They need to go and they love
Speaker 1: Eden and Mark and Charles like.
Speaker 2: It's easy, babe, it's high school. It's going into high school.
Speaker 2: That it's the loud people, the people with the muscles.
Speaker 2: It's like any new gym and that you join. There's
Speaker 2: always those people at these gyms that they're always there.
Speaker 2: They've got the friends, they're always moving around like they've
Speaker 2: got that you know, like puff puff give and then yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's high school basically, and it's.
Speaker 1: A puff puff give.
Speaker 2: I just well, it's actually disrepted some sort of marijuana things,
Speaker 2: So maybe let's not focus on that.
Speaker 1: We'll put that underneath in the disclaimer that may involve
Speaker 1: talking about drugs and.
Speaker 2: Pop it in the show notes that's the best way
Speaker 2: to watch the reality TV is fuck up a joint
Speaker 2: and golf.
Speaker 1: That is actually probably a good way to do it,
Speaker 1: or an edible. Who would be your Okay, So in
Speaker 1: that first episode, did you think Frankie deserved to go
Speaker 1: home or did you think it should have been Jets.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see more of Jess. I think she
Speaker 2: was a long gamer and I wanted to see more
Speaker 2: of her strategies play out. But she came into hot
Speaker 2: too quick. Frankie also came into hot too quick, and
Speaker 2: they blindsided her, which is great, but that's now less.
Speaker 2: Nathan explodes.
Speaker 1: I know, poor Nathan and those blue speedos. I've never
Speaker 1: felt more exposed. His body is ridiculous. Okay, So are
Speaker 1: you going to keep watching Survivor? I feel like they
Speaker 1: answered to that as academic.
Speaker 2: Absolutely can't not watch it. It's going to get really good.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good season and we've only seen, like,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of episodes. Well, we need to
Speaker 1: wrap this up, and we wrapped the podcast up each
Speaker 1: week with what to watch on the box. I'm going
Speaker 1: to quickly take you through a few things. So Prime
Speaker 1: Video drops a new series of expats, a new series
Speaker 1: called ex Pats, I should say, which has Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about ex Pats? It was? It is
Speaker 1: directed by Lulu Wang, who did The Farewell, which was
Speaker 1: a beautiful movie. I don't know if you saw that movie.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. I think at one at Oscar What
Speaker 1: do you know about Expats on Amazon Prime and are
Speaker 1: you going to watch it?
Speaker 2: Absolutely know nothing about it other than what you just
Speaker 2: told me, but it sounds great.
Speaker 1: Well, it's about I'll just quickly say that it's about
Speaker 1: families from all over the world that found themselves in
Speaker 1: Hong Kong as ex pats, and it talks about the
Speaker 1: community of expats in Hong Kong. It is quite compelling.
Speaker 1: It is a very slow start from what I've been
Speaker 1: able to see of it so far, but it does
Speaker 1: get stronger as it goes on.
Speaker 2: And you've su in that concept. I have a few
Speaker 2: friends that lived in Hong Kong for like ten and
Speaker 2: that sounds like the wildst place ever.
Speaker 1: And it's it is a culture within itself to be
Speaker 1: the Yeah, fascinating to be the expat. But also this
Speaker 1: show explores what the people who live in Hong Kong
Speaker 1: think of expats living in their country, and that I
Speaker 1: think is where the Jews comes from watching this series awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Apple Plus is going to release its second series
Speaker 1: of Feud. The first series of Feud, which had Susan
Speaker 1: Surandon and Jessica Lang, was on television in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: during the time of Big Little Eyes first season. They're
Speaker 1: giving you some perspective of how long it has been
Speaker 1: since we have seen the first series. Did you watch
Speaker 1: the first run of Feud where Susan Sarandon and Jessica
Speaker 1: Lang battled it out on that show?
Speaker 2: No? I didn't, but I'm obsessed with both of those actresses.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll watch it.
Speaker 2: If you're If it's in the big little Larvee realm.
Speaker 1: It's more Ryan Murphy, oh amazing, very glitz, very glamour.
Speaker 1: But look it is back, and this time round, you've
Speaker 1: got Nami Watts, you've got Callista Flockhart. It is centered
Speaker 1: around Capoti this time round, so it's a completely different story. Capodi,
Speaker 1: to me, is a very polarizing character, and I feel
Speaker 1: like for a seven part series, having Capodi having too
Speaker 1: much screen time might be the downfall of this show.
Speaker 1: But look, you've got some really amazing names like, as
Speaker 1: I said, Nami Watts and even Jessica Lang's in it,
Speaker 1: which I think, yeah, yeah, it's glamour, it's very you.
Speaker 1: But I think you'll be turned off by the Capoti.
Speaker 1: The level of Capoti. It's very hard.
Speaker 2: It's like sim Or Hoffman, Capoti.
Speaker 1: Vibes well, no, that Capoti, and I actually was thinking
Speaker 1: about that a lot. I felt like the movie Capodi,
Speaker 1: Philip Simo Hoffman toned down a lot of the truth
Speaker 1: of Capodi because he really is a hard character to
Speaker 1: watch in general, and I think that was kind of
Speaker 1: the magic of that film and the reason why Philip
Speaker 1: Cima Hoffman won the Oscar is. I think it's a
Speaker 1: hard task for any actor to try and bring Capodi
Speaker 1: to life and have people watch him for longer than
Speaker 1: five minutes, because he's disgusting anyway.
Speaker 2: That's really amazing. I can't went to watch.
Speaker 1: The last one is SBS has a new series called Culprits.
Speaker 1: I would never have watched it, and I don't think
Speaker 1: you would have either, But I just want to quickly
Speaker 1: say I was recommended at We've started watching it and
Speaker 1: it's very addictive. I'll just quickly talk to you a
Speaker 1: little bit about that, which is I've got a synopsis.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm not even going to read the synopsisa we're
Speaker 1: runn out of time, but I will tell you it's
Speaker 1: about a whole bunch of hit men that have given
Speaker 1: up their hit men lifestyle and have become you know,
Speaker 1: They've got married, they've had children. It's very kill bill
Speaker 1: esk and then someone decides to come back and start
Speaker 1: killing all of these hitmen and revenging against them. The
Speaker 1: protagonist is a man straight away when you meet him,
Speaker 1: he's a person of color, and he's married to another
Speaker 1: man of person of color, and it's very sexy watching
Speaker 1: the dynamic between those two hot men, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: But the whole series is really quite compelling and I
Speaker 1: would never have heard about it anyway. It's Culprits. It's
Speaker 1: on SBS.
Speaker 2: Okay, I might watch it with my husband because I
Speaker 2: feel like and I don't know if you'll like this
Speaker 2: but like I need. I want to watch reality TV
Speaker 2: all day. I want to watch your Housewives of Salt
Speaker 2: Like City all day every day. That's all I want
Speaker 2: to watch. But I have need to share the counch
Speaker 2: with my husband, who either wants to watch the SBA
Speaker 2: shows like Alone or you know, somewhere where someone's getting
Speaker 2: killed and guarded it the whole time. So I need that,
Speaker 2: like that middleman father is actually that middleman for like
Speaker 2: a couple show.
Speaker 1: I think we need those. I think it's I call
Speaker 1: it sing the d which is you know, you've got
Speaker 1: to balance it out, Like I could just be in
Speaker 1: my room watching Golden Girls, to be honest, all day
Speaker 1: every day, but then we'll not have a bar of
Speaker 1: it because he he and Grant both share a very sommat. Actually,
Speaker 1: Ben's a bit of a mix between you guys, because he's.
Speaker 2: The horror phone. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I can't watch the horror shows, but he's there for
Speaker 1: the housewives. So look, you know I've got something. You've
Speaker 1: survived your first episode and the alarm went off three
Speaker 1: minutes ago to tell me to wrap it up and
Speaker 1: shut up. What do you think? How did you go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good? I loved it. Did I say anything really bad? Sorry? Well,
Speaker 2: I hope I sound funny and good. Tell them to
Speaker 2: give it their best shot.
Speaker 1: Letter okay, no, the best. I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 1: I'll quite you letter to tell you about my love point.
Speaker 1: I go back