WEBVTT - WHAT TO WATCH with Stacey Saunders

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV reloadan podcast last week. They're by Stacy. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me on TV Reload today, my long standing friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you haven't deleted me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've tried a million times, and you keep creating

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<v Speaker 2>these other fake profiles reading me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've been talking garbage for about eleven years now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what's really interesting about it is that

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't collaborated on really anything since doing Big Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>And for a lot of people listening to this, they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even know we did Big Brother because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very long ago. I'm definitely irrelevant now, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're still trying to fly the flag quite hard. Then

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for bringing me out of the fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Would work well. Each week I will be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>rotating guests that will unpack all of your favorite TV

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<v Speaker 1>shows as I help you pick what to watch and

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<v Speaker 1>discuss all the latest TV shows right across all of

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<v Speaker 1>your free toware streaming services. Stacy. This week we will

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<v Speaker 1>be discussing Australian Idol, Married at First Sight, Australian Survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to finish off the pod with

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<v Speaker 1>some you know what to watch, which is Amazon Prime

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<v Speaker 1>have a new show with Nicole Kidman, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to just talk at me about Nicole Kibben

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, there's also a long awaited second series of a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show on Apple Plus, which took seven years for

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<v Speaker 1>them to make the second season, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. And there's also a new series on SBS,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to ask you, do you watch any

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<v Speaker 1>SBS at all at your place?

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<v Speaker 2>I really love SBS and I think I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>name a few shows and they're probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>ABC ones, but then also one that I am obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with and I know was definitely on SBS. It's not Australian,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't even want to talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>season five of Fargo. Have you watched that?

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<v Speaker 1>No? But should I watch that?

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<v Speaker 2>It is the most incredible. So for those that are listening,

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<v Speaker 2>there has been five seconds of Fargo and it's set

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<v Speaker 2>off the show that was from years ago, and the

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<v Speaker 2>first one had Billy Bob Thorton in it, then the

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<v Speaker 2>second one had Curs and Dunce, but this one's got

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<v Speaker 2>the girl from Ted lasso in It and John Hands

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<v Speaker 2>for John Ham seest man on the like very sexy,

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<v Speaker 2>dilfy vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, have you tried to zoom in on all

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<v Speaker 1>of his photos to see his crutch?

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<v Speaker 2>Because oh, this is what I'm telling you about Fargo,

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<v Speaker 2>Because in the second episode you get to see his

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<v Speaker 2>full last wig an ass shot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the full Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>We get the full wee get to eat the full Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, I just I just really love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm obsessed. I'm gonna watch it and watch all

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<v Speaker 1>five seasons by the end of today.

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<v Speaker 2>Report back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to kick this off with merret at

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<v Speaker 1>first sight and I don't know much about what your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with this show is. But it's back and it's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than ever. Australia's favorite social experiment returns for its

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<v Speaker 1>most polarizing season of next level drama and a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of love. But look, it's back on Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>This season of Maths will push the limits on everything

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<v Speaker 1>viewers think they know about the series. There will be

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<v Speaker 1>even more heart pounding romance, highly addictive drama with twists,

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<v Speaker 1>turns and shots. Even beyond final vows. There will be rivalry,

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<v Speaker 1>betrayals and heartbreak. Of course, I mean this is maps right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>It's totally enoughs And look, I going back to your

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<v Speaker 2>question about you know what my relationship is. I was

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<v Speaker 2>such a lover from the first series, like it was groundbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember when it came out, We're all like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, what was this. It was a whole gay

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<v Speaker 2>marriage thing, they can get married. I was picketing for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but then started to get into that wish wash and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was similar to Big Brother. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>it was so groundbreaking when it started. Everyone was obsessed,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just starts to get into the same format,

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<v Speaker 2>the same dramas, the same scandals, the same idiots just

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<v Speaker 2>want to up their Instagram following. I logged off the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years because it just I felt and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the dumbest bitch of at most times. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, when I watched it, I felt dumber from

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<v Speaker 2>watching these people because it was so obvious what they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for. But you making me want it to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about on this podcast. I was really pleasantly surprised, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got hope this year. I think the producers have

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<v Speaker 2>kind of taken that feedback on board. Not for me

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<v Speaker 2>personally obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I emailed them late at night while eating some doritos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just sending a voice memos. Hey. From what I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen from the first episode, I really I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 2>to see like the craziness of what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but also the love because you can see

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they've really matched these people quite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you love to love.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to love.

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<v Speaker 1>The introduction though of this year's participants. I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>really quite amazing as well, because it does sort of

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<v Speaker 1>live and die on how well we connect to these

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<v Speaker 1>personality types. Right, do you already have any favorites, because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like with this show, my favorites are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that I love to hate totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Look and I think they were pretty soft with these

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<v Speaker 2>first two Sarah and Timan and Cassandra's. But what they

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<v Speaker 2>do quite well is they blend them all together and

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<v Speaker 2>then they do a really good story on the two

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<v Speaker 2>that you would end up flipping and hating. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I was watching the Sarah and Tim and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Wow, he's really amazing. He loves Ethio.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be amazing. And then you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the Best Man's speech and sounds like he's like happy

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<v Speaker 2>to let anyone go down on him, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like it's it's a very weird flip

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<v Speaker 2>so like it's very up and down. It's like you

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<v Speaker 2>love this person, you like, I'm already setting this dude

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<v Speaker 2>up with my friends. If it's not it's not working

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<v Speaker 2>out with the fake accent chick.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think her accent's real. I think Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>accents real. She's from Columbia, maybe she was there on

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced. The fake accent is a unique selling

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<v Speaker 2>point for any talent. That's what I think she's gunning

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<v Speaker 2>in for. Actually, I'm telling you now, she's a nutritionist.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I bet every dollar in my bank account and

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<v Speaker 2>we got a triple at which is all the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that she has some fitness platform like a sand

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<v Speaker 2>By twenty eight wood thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course, why wouldn't she And you deserve that, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve that, Sarah. You know I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about that whole Best Man's speech and what they

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<v Speaker 1>are alluding to. How did you read that? Because he

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<v Speaker 1>said that. Did he say that he got head in

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<v Speaker 1>a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a hedge job addict? Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>if that sounds rude.

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<v Speaker 1>But were they still the same story. Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>they got head in the car and then ended up

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<v Speaker 1>in hospital or do you think that he got head

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and then went to hospital and then

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<v Speaker 1>got head again I could have woke out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's actually the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And was it a nurse. Were they alluding to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, you know, some doctor just thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor doctor, give me the news, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>down on you like maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, actually is a really good plan, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the car and then like because they

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<v Speaker 2>got pulled over or whatever, he couldn't finish and so

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<v Speaker 2>then when something happened, they had to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital and.

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<v Speaker 1>Where someone else finished him up. Or is it the

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<v Speaker 1>same person dorecon Surely it was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same person, And they sound like they're quite into the

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<v Speaker 2>whole idea of it. It's like doing the promiscuous toot

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<v Speaker 2>and beeping around town.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, I want to know of your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>of this, because you got married a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and you have to select a certain type of

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<v Speaker 1>people to get up and represent you. So they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get up and make your best man's speech, your

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<v Speaker 1>bridesmaid speech, and there's a certain amount of responsibility that

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<v Speaker 1>you're handing over to someone. And I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>representation of the relationship. The wedding, the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, the people that get up should be telling

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<v Speaker 1>stories that represent the love that exists in that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>a polutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hello, that's the reason why I asked you

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<v Speaker 2>to EMC at our wedding. And there was a dildo

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<v Speaker 2>joke within the first two minutes, which I love and

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<v Speaker 2>was an absolute hit. But you want to pick those

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<v Speaker 2>people that really love you and that really know you

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<v Speaker 2>every inch ofview from the funny stories, but really it's

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<v Speaker 2>all it should be all hot and obviously that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I chose you to talk about us and through my

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<v Speaker 2>EMC my wedding, and the same thing should go with

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<v Speaker 2>your best man and whatever. It's similar to the Cassandra

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<v Speaker 2>and Tristan like that wedding just looked so gorgeous and

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<v Speaker 2>when the dad got up, it was the most beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>moving speech, and that's what it really should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how do you vet someone. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>the user has had a duty of care there? And

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<v Speaker 1>do you believe that they would have read that guy's

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<v Speaker 1>speech and gone this is this is bonkers. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they would have added stuff to that? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they would have egged him on? Because I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe. This doesn't land well for me. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a bit of a TV moment that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been staged because I can't imagine anyone is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get up and say that kind of stuff at

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to some really boguan weddings, like where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like a lot of the speeches are really random,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that's the thing, Like you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of about to say. I don't want to share this speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a surprise. Like I've honestly been

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of them where they're not nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as the King of these jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one, but it was pretty bad. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The other question I wanted to ask you because you

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<v Speaker 1>did bring up Cassandra and Tristan and their wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>how amazing it was. We did get to see some

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<v Speaker 1>very heartbreaking stories when it came to Cassandra, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>her original book. You know, her long standing high school

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<v Speaker 1>sweetheart had died, her mum had passed away. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that this show abuses its participants by selecting people

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<v Speaker 1>who might be just a little bit too fragile for

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<v Speaker 1>this experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>You could probably look at it that way, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think we look at it that way if we see

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<v Speaker 2>her running into a train crash of a marriage, but

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<v Speaker 2>by hand on her. Honestly, think with someone like her,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say they need an extra duty of care

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<v Speaker 2>because they've already been through such a mental load of

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<v Speaker 2>crap through life and losing people so close to them,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's nothing worse than what that woman has experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so I feel like they probably already set out

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to be the success story, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they probably focused on them, and then I reckon the

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<v Speaker 2>Joe blows in between, the crazy people, the Byron Bay Lady,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're going to be up, They're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the seat fillers and just bring the content. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>always those speckles of the real love stories that eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent going to work. And like there's so many mass

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<v Speaker 2>couples that have gone on to have marriage, babe marriages,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's nice to see. So I feel like their aim,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon is to have like one of those successful

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<v Speaker 2>couples throughout the season and then their jobs done.

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<v Speaker 1>The question I then need to ask you is, out

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<v Speaker 1>of those two marriages that we saw in the first episode,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think either of those relationships are going to

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<v Speaker 1>work long term? And when I say long term, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean just getting to the end of the show

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<v Speaker 1>and collecting all your followers. Would either of these two

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<v Speaker 1>relationships exist in the real world without the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's hard to know. It's hard to know

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<v Speaker 2>from the first episode, but like you do see speckles.

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<v Speaker 2>I could probably put money on Cassin and Tristan because

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<v Speaker 2>they seem quite well suited. But the other two, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. They it's already she got chitsy at the

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<v Speaker 2>wedding and the friends are kind of already diving in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just bad vibes from the get go. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a shame. But if you've got problems from day one

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<v Speaker 2>or things that are robbing you the wrong way from

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<v Speaker 2>day one, like it ain't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming But maybe they're just the battle lines being drawn

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I think. I think these two big personalities

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<v Speaker 1>have got together. Interestingly enough, at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>episode where we saw Tim saying to Sarah to calm down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that because you know, in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of telling anyone to calm down when they're fully bonkers,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's ever calmed down. And it's I wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your relationship, if Grant told you to calm down

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<v Speaker 1>in an argument, how would you react. Would you react

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<v Speaker 1>like Sarah or you know, would you divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>Him literally divorced? I would roll him down the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>push him onto the highway, and tell him in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of my calmness, it's not right now. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>just like it's a one on one you never tell

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm with her on that. I was with Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I was like, it's in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>the men say it too. It's so blan It's like

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<v Speaker 2>calm down, no, no, no, no. He was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>calm down, Like it's such a it's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>condescending man to say. I just effing hate it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not into it. My blood world.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing that you know things about this show that I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy, though, is what they've borrowed from other shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that when they were structuring those relationship

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<v Speaker 1>experts and having those moments that we'll see later in

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<v Speaker 1>the season where they watch those dinner parties, they're literally

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<v Speaker 1>goggle boxing what's actually happening on the show. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was really clever decision and it is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things about Maths. I love watching these three people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the contestants. It really is like watching someone

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<v Speaker 1>goggle box what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>What about? Can we talk about that Alessandra woman, like

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<v Speaker 2>she's the world's sexiest woman, Like there's something about her

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<v Speaker 2>that's so beautiful, and then it's the accent on top

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<v Speaker 2>and she's kind of like this j Loo Sophia Vigara

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I speak Brazilian, so yes, I understood exactly what

0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you said there, and that is that you wish that

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<v Speaker 1>you're Brazilian and you're coming back in your next life

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<v Speaker 1>as her.

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<v Speaker 2>She can be saying something we have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>she's saying about love and sex and whatever, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of annoying at her, going yes, whenever you say, queen,

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<v Speaker 2>clean up the.

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<v Speaker 1>Love, will you know that. I love to give you

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<v Speaker 1>a name drop. But I was out at a gay

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<v Speaker 1>night club in Sydney. Don't know why you weren't there,

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<v Speaker 1>because you were born there. I was drinking with farmer Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>who you would know, and so we were having shots

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar and she happened to be standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to us, and so we did shots with Alessandra at

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<v Speaker 1>a gay night club in Sydney. Is that not the

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<v Speaker 1>campus thing you've ever heard?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's absolutely heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was willing. She was the one who said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, can I buy you a drink? Because we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking to her because obviously, you know, anyone's famous

0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.520
<v Speaker 1>in the room, I've stuck to them like glue. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said yeah. She was like, I can't do the accent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would probably be being racist if I tried,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, she suggested we have shots. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>shots with her and she was really really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel sexier instilling after that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, I mean I was really there just for

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<v Speaker 1>the photo opportunity to put it on the ground, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So just to finish off with MAVs, did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a highlight from the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>My highlight honestly was this sounds really weird, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Cassandra's family, they just seem like the most beautiful, amazing

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<v Speaker 2>people that obviously have been through really shitty time and

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<v Speaker 2>it just gives you a little bit of hope. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that was my highlight, just seeing someone that

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<v Speaker 2>had a bit of a shit time in life now

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<v Speaker 2>she's onto something quite good.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that's telling me that you watch this show

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<v Speaker 1>for the heart, because you know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds really weird. I think it's because at first

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<v Speaker 2>show they kind of were pulling at people's heart strings,

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<v Speaker 2>like there wasn't any craziness, but they started to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mix. Oh actually no, I tell a lie who's

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy shit with the tips everywhere? And she said

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to root the husband, the dad, root the uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Lauren.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they sprinkled her. She seems quite good. But

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<v Speaker 2>I really did like the Cassandra good heart kind of

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<v Speaker 2>vine and then the sprinkle of all of the like.

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<v Speaker 1>What's crazy the Bay Lady, the Byron Bay Lady, Listenda Light?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she a real person? Do you reckon? She's an actor?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she a real person?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you've been to Byron Bay, like I've got

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<v Speaker 2>married there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's one on every in Byron. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>look married at first sight. I've made you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>first episode. Are you going to keep watching it? In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, actually, I am, I'm going to keep watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Australian Idol is back twenty one years after Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Sebastian pipped Shannon Nol to become Australia's first Idol. The

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<v Speaker 1>International star making Sensation returns to Channel seven. Radio king

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Sandy Lance and TV week LOGI Award winning and

0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.920
<v Speaker 1>acclaimed singer Amy Shark are joined by og and pop

0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:33.120
<v Speaker 1>legend Marsha Hines in this rebooted series. Just Forget that

0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.480
<v Speaker 1>last year happened because it was a terrible train wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>Where were you when this show first started on TV?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I want to ask you how old you were?

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<v Speaker 2>I no, do you know what? I actually think? I

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<v Speaker 2>was living in New Zealand one this day you missed it?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it two thousand and two or two thousand and three?

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and three, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living in New Zealand. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>got a little bit of wind of it. There, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we only just got television in New Zealand in two

0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, so it was like the first show

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<v Speaker 2>to come on, so we still knew about it back then,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was massive. It was an absolute phenomenon and

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<v Speaker 2>like just generally the vibe of how many people that

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<v Speaker 2>it can actually sing out there is kind of still

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<v Speaker 2>quite freaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Australia still want to watch singing shows though? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine you and Grant watching a singing

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<v Speaker 1>show on television. Do you still want to watch those

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of reality, that sort of reality?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think what, to be honest with you, the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I want to watch it is to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the bad people singing. That's the best part for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's people that actually line up there for a full day,

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<v Speaker 2>think that they've got a hope, and then they get

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<v Speaker 2>in there and they are like, sound like a dead cat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am too sexy for your love.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Louis. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an absolute standout. That's literally how you look

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<v Speaker 2>without makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead. He looked like he was a vampire that had

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<v Speaker 1>just recently feasted on a body and then he came

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<v Speaker 1>in and sung that song.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless him, but he's a freaking he's a freak of

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<v Speaker 2>the week. But also he looks like me, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or women will know this when you're young and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like trying to figure out what colorment you are

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<v Speaker 2>with foundation and you go into the local price line

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<v Speaker 2>and you think that you're an ivory, but really you're

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<v Speaker 2>something else, and you're just basically having the widest face

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<v Speaker 2>of her for about two years, but you can't afford.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love watching this launch episode and I was

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<v Speaker 1>really dubious about it because I didn't enjoy last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Super sorry Channel seven, but I actually think that Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>Hines brings this format together really well.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw that she was announced as a judge, admittingly,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, really, like she's been away for like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years from the Spotlight. But I've got to say

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<v Speaker 2>she's a queen, Like she's an un queen. She's got

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<v Speaker 2>a very quite a calm call. She's like someone that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to take advice from.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just got that soul and she's a really beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>person and I love look. I really love seeing her

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Kyle. I think he's just amazing marches to

0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the beating of his own drum, obviously, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean like he actually has got a lot of heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And she brings that out of him. It's really nice

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<v Speaker 1>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really nice to what people said.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't watch a Strain and Iol because Kyle Sanderlanz

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<v Speaker 1>was there, and you know those people what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why people are so angry at him.

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<v Speaker 2>He says the same stuff that people say online on

0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.720
<v Speaker 2>TikTok on Instagram. It's funny. He says all the same

0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.960
<v Speaker 2>shit that we think about and say behind their back.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, he doesn't have a bad heart. Like for

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 2>those of you that like listen to their show or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and see a lot of what he does. He

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 2>does really good stuff. It's just this whole old kind

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.679
<v Speaker 2>of personality that they have, I think the idea of

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.960
<v Speaker 2>his old personality. But look, I think I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm obsessed with Kyle and Jackio and I'm

0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with Kyle being on this show because it is

0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>showing that side of him. And kudos to Marsha for

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<v Speaker 1>being able to bring that out. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about nostalgia TV shows because we do see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of shows being brought back for the nostalgia factor,

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw it recently with Gladiators and people only

0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>turned up for the Night one. They only wanted to

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>turn up for the fields of Night one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't stick around beyond that. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>these nostalgia programs, stuff that we've seen on TV, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty years, still has a place on television.

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<v Speaker 2>There must be some research in it, because the networks

0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.439
<v Speaker 2>keep bringing these shows back, and I think what the

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 2>process would be is that maybe a new show comes

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<v Speaker 2>on and that makes people either complain online or there's

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.920
<v Speaker 2>chatter or whatever to say, this show sucks, you should

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 2>bring this back, you should bring this back. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so good, And then we are really looped into that

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia and we're so connected to that nostalgia that anything

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<v Speaker 2>that we compare it with, even if it's a new format,

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't work because it's not the old one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, it's really dangerous to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>try and bring these shows back because people amalgamate the

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<v Speaker 1>shows and so like, even when they bought Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>back for Channel seven, and they try to do something

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>different with it. The way in which they talked about

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.919
<v Speaker 1>the ye oldie days, if Big Brother wasn't really what

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it was, they sort of conglomerated it together and they

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 1>were like, for that show to work, it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be live, it needs to have Friday night games, and

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to have all of these things. Well none

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that were in the original series, where

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<v Speaker 1>it was just Sarah Marie slapping her bum and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people that you'd go out with on a

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night. You know.

0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 2>The other point to that, I think is we now

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 2>interact with technology, with our own brains and with what

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 2>we want to experience. Now, we don't have the attention

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 2>span to sit there and watch Sarah Marie.

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And Chris bum yeah, or have a.

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Like talk shit for thirty minutes and then us relate

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to that to escape. We've got scrolling five minutes, tapping in,

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.919
<v Speaker 2>tapping out, doing this, seeing something ninety seconds of If

0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you're not giving me anything to laugh at or that's

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 2>interesting or anything a hook, then we're out.

0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>So I got up shorter. We want it sharper, we

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 1>want it accessible, and we.

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Packed more of a punch in every single sea. You know,

0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 2>same with Big Brother. It's like, let's put Love Island,

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>let's put Survivor, and let's pull Big Brother all into one.

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was a bad idea, but do you know

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>what I think is working with idle And I must

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 1>admit I wasn't looking forward to talking about the show

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 1>today because I hadn't enjoyed it as much last year.

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, it just was a bit of a disappointment. However,

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I actually think that they're making this show work. It

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.159
<v Speaker 1>is a bit shorter and sharper and faster, and I

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed this launch episode.

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually really I think and I know we're

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about Survivor and we're survival people. I

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>actually think Idol was my number one because it pleasantly

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.120
<v Speaker 2>surprised me. It had all the bangs. Kyle Santelance cried

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 2>within the first half an.

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Hour, brilliant. They needed that whoever's producing that show, give

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>them a LOGI that's it.

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.359
<v Speaker 2>We had all the types that we had, the freak

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 2>of the week, we had the girl, the thing coming

0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>out in pink, and like the funny stuff with people

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 2>going no, just like turn around, honey and go home.

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 2>We had, you know, the really beautiful, amazing singers we

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 2>got to see go to balleratte and get to see

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the beautiful talent. It's kind of there.

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And I could have done without that. To be honest,

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I've felt like the episode kind of

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>being I mean, Marsha turned up and she looked like

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:11.159
<v Speaker 1>she was doing I.

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't wanted to say what she wore, like basically Willie

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Nelson into Amazing.

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>She turned up and looked like she was doing cosplay

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.360
<v Speaker 1>from you know, Dancers with Wolves. She looked Indian, I.

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Think like the Harry Styles guy Ripley was in prodile.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, here's my favorite. That's what I was

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 1>going to ask you, who's your favorite contestant? It has

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to be saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also the girl that came in and didn't

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 2>take on any feedback and then just continued to just

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>talk at people the entire time about how she.

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Can change Arena.

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>It's basically like managing someone. She was basically like an

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 2>that would be a nightmare to manage. It's like, just

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 2>do this, but can I do this better? How can

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I do this? It's like it's the worst.

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.959
<v Speaker 1>She tried to Karen Marsha, which I just thought was

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>really good television. Do I want to go back to

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>the original point where I was talking to you about

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>because I think the magic of this show comes down

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to the likability of the contestants. You can't just be

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a good singer. You need to have a personality type

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that pops. That would work if they went on trying

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a celebrity, which Shannon Old did, or it would work

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if they went onto Celebrity Apprentice, which Shannon Old did.

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like Australian Idol, Whilst it's a singing show,

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it really lifts when we get to find an unearthed

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>new personality.

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do, because I.

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Royston from last year, great singer from Hillsong, will hold

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that against you. He didn't really have a personality to

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>go with it. So whilst he was a brilliant singer,

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>how is he going to have the longevity in an

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 1>industry like Australia where you and I both know it's

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>very small, it's very hard to get into and if

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you've got the personality of a Koala bear that's stuck

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>up a tree, how are you going to sell albums?

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that the purpose? Like the point like in a

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Hills song. Isn't that the point that you're all singing

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>along like Sally Ane like, and you all sound really amazing.

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think that appeals obviously to this friend

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>in the public. Actually I tell her because obviously it did.

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>But there's some really incredible ones that it worked for,

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Like Lisa Mitchell was incredible. I think she saw No,

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't hell song, but she was from like an

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Australian singing either x actually okay, and then.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Colter She's not from any religious group or any singing.

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>No, but I don't know who styled her on this show.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't look the best.

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I loved that dress. Do you mean that that big

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>black dress with the little belt.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not into it. She needs to be She's so beautiful,

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>she's got such an amazing figure. She needs to be

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 2>in the full Beyonce esque style outfit like I'm talking

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the little box like they dressed her up like a

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>mum from Bloody out West Well Stacy.

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Today's special guests, which I did tell you about, is

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Rick Coolter and she's listening right now.

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I loved your first outfit on the show.

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It was maybe it was a little bit older age for.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 2>She's such a fabulous woman, like she needs to be

0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>dressed in something better.

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we both know Jol. We'll get Joel to

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>pass it on before we leave from Australian Idol. Will

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you keep watching it? I feel like this is your

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>hangover show. I feel like on Saturdays and Sunday mornings

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be on the laptop.

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I will be doing Settle uptop hangover game. I'll

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>still be watching. I'll probably watch it during the on

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the weekends and play catch up with it and then

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:21.439
<v Speaker 2>do the rest during the week.

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a plan. On Monday night. Australian Survivor also

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>returned to Samoa with twenty four, all new players divided

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>into Titans versus rebels. While the Titans are described as

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the master of their craft, the head honchos, the overachievers,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the rebels are the mavericks, the ones who don't play

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>by the rules. Although Network ten told me to remind

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>my listeners that Survivor challenges do have very clear rules,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>so you know, those rebels probably don't have much proximity

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to step out of but across forty seven days they

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>will all take part in reward challenges, immunity challenges, and

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>tribal council in the pursuit of half a million dollars.

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>By the way, half a million, do.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You think that because that might ears pricked up with

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 2>that too, because no one's ever heard of that amount

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 2>for years or since. Maybe the block is like that.

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's because it's got such a great

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>following homeseas that they know.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to offer half a million dollars

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>through the type of personalities that need to go on

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that show, because if you look at the people that apply,

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>they aren't your and this is why I like this show.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>They're not your reality TV contestants that you would see

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>on some of these other shows. They don't come across

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>as I mean, maybe George did a little bit, and

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe there are a few people this season, Eden being

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>one of them. You know, maybe there are a few

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>people that want to create this big television career out

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>of it. But I think the personality types that come

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to this champions in their career and willing to press

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>paus on that to go on a reality show because

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>they want to be challenged and they want half a

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>million dollars and without that half a million dollars. If

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you were that woman who ran boost juice, what's her name, Janine,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 1>would she give up her career to go on a

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>vivor of it wasn't half a million dollars, you know?

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I do think for her it was something about

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the money. I think for her it was a mental

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and like to push her body into to mentally kind

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>of push herself because for me, and this is the thing,

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and I assume this is a reason why half the

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>show is zoomed in shots of their abs. Like most

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>of these people their body and their abs. But I

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're people that are on the show when

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you're at the gym. They're the people like I'm in

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the corner, you know, someone's telling me to do ten

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 2>ber beause I'm doing tune, just but making drawing it

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>out the whole five minutes to make it look like ten.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 2>These are the people that are up the front that

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>have done tens, like sit ups and things in the internut.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>These are the people that go that extra mile. They're

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the freaks of the weeks, right.

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I really are. I Mean I picture you only ever

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>at the gym, drinking a lot of time perving on

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>people and then.

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling jokes like.

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Staying in that active way for the rest of the day.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I need new active way. If anyone's listening, I'm here,

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>stacks muscle. I'm ready for my fitness blogging error, and

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I need some new sets to make sure I'm at

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>least blending in with these bloody cool kids.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>What makes you love this show? Because we do both

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>love this show. We both watch it and we would

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>have watched it without doing this podcast today. Why do

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>you and Granny love watching this show?

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Because it's got that mix of physical and but more

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>for me, the mental. So what I love is watching

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the people blend where you've got the people that go

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, cool, like the gym junkies that are in there,

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>that look very strong, that can win the battles and

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the but then that's only like what two hours of

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the day when you go into the game and this,

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I think what we do quite well into Big Brother

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>is really emotionally manipulating people. And that's the stuff I

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>want to watch on TV. Absolutely at their working at

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>their peak.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a really quick question. I don't want to

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>go down the rabbit hole with this too. Far. But

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>with Big Brother, when we did it back in the day,

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't collude. You couldn't do what they do in Survivor,

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>which is gang up on people to get them eliminated.

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>But would you still say that when we were doing

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that show, there was kind of an unspoken arrangement by

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>people like, yeah.

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Totally, and it naturally happens. And that's what happens on Survivor.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>You see people naturally form. You see the alphas look

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>in the first episode, whether it was the Jesse versus

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the other Chess versus Frank Frankie, how did these people

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>become the top of the range and how did these

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>people become isolated to have people gang up on them

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>straight away. They're women that are quite strong. They're women

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that had opinions you don't like it's one oh one,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>don't be seen during that first episode as having too

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>much of a voice.

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I love those two women that came on that show

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because the first two Boots that we got to see

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>this week were fantastic, and those women went hard and

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they were polarizing, and you know, it's bringing in new

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>people to watch this show because you know, Lord knows

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a very good show with it cult following,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>but it needs more people to watch it if we

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it on television. And I think that

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the first week was just quite amazing. I was wondering, though,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to ask you. I thought you'd watch

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>this show for the men in the speedos, like Nathan

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and Alex in those speedos, like are you okay?

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a big part of it. But I know the

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>actual reason why I want to watch it is because

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I have a massive man crush on Johnathan.

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And Parlier all day every day him.

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Like there's something about his voice, there's something about the hat,

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like he's just sexy man Like, he's got a vibe,

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>like like, yeah, the running around in the speedos as

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>they lose the weight, I'm less interested, but I'm.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Into, oh my god, Like, you couldn't lose weight faster

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>than a show like Survivor. I mean, Zempig's got nothing

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>on these guys.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>This year, though, it's a whole cast of newbies, so

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>audiences might might be taking a little bit of time

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to get to know all the players. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know from your first take on this show, do you

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>have any favorites and if you need to describe them

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to me, so I'll tell you who they are. We

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>can do that.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sorry to know. I will say with Survivor,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it's such a blender. It's really hard to know their

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>names as soon as you first first watched the first

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>couple of episodes. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave the name blocks on the screen for the first

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>three episodes every time someone's talking, is what I have

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to say.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a kind of an older lady. She looks really beautiful,

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>she's a bit older. What they're doing with her, she

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>looks like she's going to be someone that's quite a

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>head turner. She's got she's they keep. She kind of

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>says a lot with her. Honest, I do like the

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Russian lady with the kylamino version of the blue hotpants.

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>The least practical things ever that I bring in, so

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I think i'd be her friend with and she brought

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>in the fluffy coat. I'm kind of into.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Her, I Retten, that was YouTube. I mean that coat,

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the upside down Denise Richard's coat, the lips, the hair,

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the make up, the whole thing is very Stacy Wrens.

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 2>And I also just love how they like have like

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a pole and then it's like everyone's jackets and it's like,

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, dry as a bone or something like really good.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>They're a raincoat for someone to keep them all and

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>her just like shitty bluffy blue puffa jacket. It's furry

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's from Sees and she's like, Yep, that's definitely

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>what I'm taking fiber. She's going to go real far.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't expect nothing less from you. I think if

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you were in Survivor, that is what you would wear.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>But I want to know what would your strategy be

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>if you ended up on a series, no matter what

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>theme it is, how would you play that game?

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I think exactly the way that I play. I'm a

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>long game girl, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>A social game. So you did the social game in.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 2>The social game. Yeah, I'm not a physical person, like

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in more ways than one, kind of get to know people,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>start to understand and see how things fall out, and

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I affirm a view and then I can just pop

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a teer from a farm.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You understand paint like when paint like, I actually think

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you'd be really good at it. I think you're selling

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>yourself short when it comes to some of those physical challenges.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're talking to a woman whose beauty routine

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>involves a lot of pain. You know, if it's something

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in it for you, if there's something in it for you,

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you will get that shit done. So I actually think

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd be quite good at some of that physical stuff

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>as well, but your social game would slay. Yeah.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that I've got a good view of social game.

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>You'll probably get me throught it out, probably more earlier,

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>but I think I could push through to the end

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>with the beauty game. I'm telling you, I don't know.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I I haven't had experienced childbirth, but getting your lips

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>done is the very close up there to pain. That's

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>all I'm going to say.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>But it's every word, every bit. Do you remember when

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you sent me like do you think I should get

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>this done? And we sort of back and forth with

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a few text messages and then you did the first

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>one with a very light, subtle lip pricks. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and then a little bit more for the next one.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like it's it's on, like this is

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a podcast and people can't say it, but fuck me,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>those lips look great. You've got the wrong plumbing for

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>me though, so that well, I wanted to talk to

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you about the so called popular group. So you've got Mark, Eden, Charles, Viola, Valeria,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Caroline and Kitty. They make up this misfit connection, right,

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and that leaves Nathan, Frankie and Jaden apparently as this

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>popular group. But I get really confused with this whole thing,

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I'm watching reality shows, because is there

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a popular group? Like did Nathan and Frankie and Jaden

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>behave in a way that made them look like they

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>were Tray the alpha?

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>They were the alphas?

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>People so triggered by it. If you look online, people

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>are so triggered by those three people that are Nathan,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Frankie and Jaden. They need to go and they love

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Eden and Mark and Charles like.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>It's easy, babe, it's high school. It's going into high school.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>That it's the loud people, the people with the muscles.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like any new gym and that you join. There's

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>always those people at these gyms that they're always there.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 2>They've got the friends, they're always moving around like they've

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>got that you know, like puff puff give and then yeah,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's high school basically, and it's.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>A puff puff give.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I just well, it's actually disrepted some sort of marijuana things,

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>So maybe let's not focus on that.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll put that underneath in the disclaimer that may involve

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>talking about drugs and.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Pop it in the show notes that's the best way

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to watch the reality TV is fuck up a joint

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and golf.

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>That is actually probably a good way to do it,

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>or an edible. Who would be your Okay, So in

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that first episode, did you think Frankie deserved to go

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>home or did you think it should have been Jets.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see more of Jess. I think she

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 2>was a long gamer and I wanted to see more

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 2>of her strategies play out. But she came into hot

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 2>too quick. Frankie also came into hot too quick, and

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>they blindsided her, which is great, but that's now less.

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Nathan explodes.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, poor Nathan and those blue speedos. I've never

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>felt more exposed. His body is ridiculous. Okay, So are

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you going to keep watching Survivor? I feel like they

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>answered to that as academic.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely can't not watch it. It's going to get really good.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good season and we've only seen, like,

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of episodes. Well, we need to

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>wrap this up, and we wrapped the podcast up each

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>week with what to watch on the box. I'm going

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to quickly take you through a few things. So Prime

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Video drops a new series of expats, a new series

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>called ex Pats, I should say, which has Nicole Kidman.

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about ex Pats? It was? It is

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>directed by Lulu Wang, who did The Farewell, which was

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful movie. I don't know if you saw that movie.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It was fantastic. I think at one at Oscar What

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>do you know about Expats on Amazon Prime and are

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you going to watch it?

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely know nothing about it other than what you just

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 2>told me, but it sounds great.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's about I'll just quickly say that it's about

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>families from all over the world that found themselves in

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong as ex pats, and it talks about the

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>community of expats in Hong Kong. It is quite compelling.

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It is a very slow start from what I've been

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>able to see of it so far, but it does

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>get stronger as it goes on.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 2>And you've su in that concept. I have a few

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>friends that lived in Hong Kong for like ten and

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like the wildst place ever.

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's it is a culture within itself to be

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, fascinating to be the expat. But also this

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>show explores what the people who live in Hong Kong

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>think of expats living in their country, and that I

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>think is where the Jews comes from watching this series awesome.

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I'll watch it.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Apple Plus is going to release its second series

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of Feud. The first series of Feud, which had Susan

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Surandon and Jessica Lang, was on television in twenty seventeen,

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>during the time of Big Little Eyes first season. They're

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.959
<v Speaker 1>giving you some perspective of how long it has been

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>since we have seen the first series. Did you watch

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the first run of Feud where Susan Sarandon and Jessica

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Lang battled it out on that show?

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>No? I didn't, but I'm obsessed with both of those actresses.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we'll watch it.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>If you're If it's in the big little Larvee realm.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It's more Ryan Murphy, oh amazing, very glitz, very glamour.

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 1>But look it is back, and this time round, you've

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>got Nami Watts, you've got Callista Flockhart. It is centered

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>around Capoti this time round, so it's a completely different story. Capodi,

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to me, is a very polarizing character, and I feel

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>like for a seven part series, having Capodi having too

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>much screen time might be the downfall of this show.

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>But look, you've got some really amazing names like, as

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, Nami Watts and even Jessica Lang's in it,

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>which I think, yeah, yeah, it's glamour, it's very you.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think you'll be turned off by the Capoti.

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>The level of Capoti. It's very hard.

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like sim Or Hoffman, Capoti.

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Vibes well, no, that Capoti, and I actually was thinking

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>about that a lot. I felt like the movie Capodi,

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Philip Simo Hoffman toned down a lot of the truth

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of Capodi because he really is a hard character to

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>watch in general, and I think that was kind of

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the magic of that film and the reason why Philip

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Cima Hoffman won the Oscar is. I think it's a

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>hard task for any actor to try and bring Capodi

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to life and have people watch him for longer than

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>five minutes, because he's disgusting anyway.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 2>That's really amazing. I can't went to watch.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>The last one is SBS has a new series called Culprits.

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I would never have watched it, and I don't think

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you would have either, But I just want to quickly

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>say I was recommended at We've started watching it and

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's very addictive. I'll just quickly talk to you a

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit about that, which is I've got a synopsis.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Actually I'm not even going to read the synopsisa we're

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>runn out of time, but I will tell you it's

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>about a whole bunch of hit men that have given

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 1>up their hit men lifestyle and have become you know,

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>They've got married, they've had children. It's very kill bill

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>esk and then someone decides to come back and start

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>killing all of these hitmen and revenging against them. The

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>protagonist is a man straight away when you meet him,

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a person of color, and he's married to another

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>man of person of color, and it's very sexy watching

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic between those two hot men, let me tell you.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>But the whole series is really quite compelling and I

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>would never have heard about it anyway. It's Culprits. It's

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:06.240
<v Speaker 1>on SBS.

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I might watch it with my husband because I

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like and I don't know if you'll like this

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>but like I need. I want to watch reality TV

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 2>all day. I want to watch your Housewives of Salt

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Like City all day every day. That's all I want

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to watch. But I have need to share the counch

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 2>with my husband, who either wants to watch the SBA

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 2>shows like Alone or you know, somewhere where someone's getting

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>killed and guarded it the whole time. So I need that,

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>like that middleman father is actually that middleman for like

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>a couple show.

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we need those. I think it's I call

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it sing the d which is you know, you've got

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>to balance it out, Like I could just be in

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>my room watching Golden Girls, to be honest, all day

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>every day, but then we'll not have a bar of

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it because he he and Grant both share a very sommat. Actually,

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Ben's a bit of a mix between you guys, because he's.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 2>The horror phone. I don't know about that.

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't watch the horror shows, but he's there for

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the housewives. So look, you know I've got something. You've

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>survived your first episode and the alarm went off three

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>minutes ago to tell me to wrap it up and

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>shut up. What do you think? How did you go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Good? I loved it. Did I say anything really bad? Sorry? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I sound funny and good. Tell them to

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<v Speaker 2>give it their best shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Letter okay, no, the best. I can't thank you enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll quite you letter to tell you about my love point.

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<v Speaker 1>I go back