1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Put on your dancing shoes. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Don't give me your best shot. She's a podcaster, she's 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: a journalist, mamamea dot com today. You and I like 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: to say she's our Emma Bless. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to put that in my Instagram. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: I'd like to say I'm claiming you as like we 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: claim Hugh Jackman claim me, and Daryl braithwait Emma. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, people are often arguing over whether or not Hugh 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Jackman and I belong to Jones and Amanda and I. 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Say you heard it here first. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: You he's ours. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Well, look, let's talk about Chris Rock. As we said, 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: it was a year ago that that infamous slap happened. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 4: He has a new Netflix special where he addresses this. 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 4: We'll get to the nitty gritty, but this is kind 16 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 4: of how he starts. 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Everybody knows, Yes, it happened. 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: I got small, like a year ago. 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I've got smacked at the ask us by this people. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: I did it hurt, It still hurts. I got summer 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: time ringing in my ear. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: But I'm not viectim. 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Baby. 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: You will never see me on Oprah girl Crime. 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: You'll never see it. 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Never gotta happen. If I couldn't believe it, and I 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: love him Black. No, it's never gotta happen. I like 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: he's doubling down on this. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Well he really is. 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: But he went on to say that he thinks there 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: are reasons why it happened, and none of them to 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: do with him. 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: Yes, So we have been waiting for nearly a year 34 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: to hear Chris Rock speak about the infamous slap, and 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: it all came to a head in this Netflix special, 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: which streamed live on Netflix over the weekend. So it 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: was the first time that the platform have done that. 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: As he performed this special, it beamed out through Netflix. 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: You might compare it to I. 40 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Don't know, traditional broadcast television, a crazy technology. And so 41 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: he's basically addressed what happened what we heard there. He 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: started out he was pretty self deprecating about it, but 43 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: he got quite serious and it's clear that. 44 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: He is still very angry over what went down. 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: But he kind of said that it all comes back 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: to this affair that Jada Pinkett Smith had she cheated 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: on Will Smith in twenty twenty. At the time, they 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: were really open about it. They I don't know if 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: you've ever seen her series of Red table talks. 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: She's very very candid and honest. 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: And it basically came out that Jada Pinkett Smith had 52 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: had an affair with her son's friend, so her son, 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: Jaden and the friend at the time, he would have been. 54 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: About twenty six twenty seven. 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: And there was a lot of backlash that followed that 56 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: revelation and people who were pretty savage online about what 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: they thought of Jada Pinkett Smith, people. 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Calling her a predator. 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: So obviously Will Smith as a result, was incredibly defensive, 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: and I suppose TOI when that joke at the Oscars 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: came out, that it perhaps wasn't really about his feelings 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: towards Chris Rock, but more his sensitivities towards people slamming 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: his wife in the public. 64 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Sphere, right, and his wife every week. 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: They famously have an open marriage. 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: Doesn't Will allegedly doesn't he sort of open the door 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: as well? 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, everyone is very fascinated by the open marriage. 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: But I think up until this revelation from Jada, it 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: had been sort of just thought that Will Smith was 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: the one that doubled in the open relationships. 72 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: Interesting, we might accept it of a man, but not 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: of a woman. But then he Chris Rock makes a 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: joke about her hair, not about her sexual escapades. Yes, exactly, 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: and that's still enough about it. 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: When I saw that happening at the time, it was 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: a very benign joke, and I thought, was he getting 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: so bent out of shape? And I thought it was 79 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: part of the show, as a lot of people thought, yes, 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: But the more you see it back you go, you 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: feel the heat. 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: And watching it, didn't it You just thought this is 83 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: a publicity stunt. 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: Surely, I said the dialogue became about her alopecia and 85 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: whether that was something that whether. 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: What is comedy. 87 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: But I'm on team Chris Rock here, I'd be the 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: exactly everyone is. What I mean is like I can 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: see what he's doing here, I'd be the same as well, 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: because you'd be thinking at that moment, he's been humiliated 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: in front of everybody's name. He took that slap really well. 92 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: He did. 93 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Part of me thinking I want to just smash that 94 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: guy back. You want your revenge, because that's what men do, 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: that want their. 96 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Revenge, And he addresses that as well. At the very 97 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: end of the show. 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: He basically says, people always ask me why didn't I 99 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: hit him BA, why didn't have hit him back? 100 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: And he's like, I have parents. 101 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: I had parents that taught me not to hit back, 102 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: and then he makes a joke about not hitting back 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: in front of white people. But he also insinuated that 104 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: a lot of the bad blood is because of his 105 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: Chris Rock's relationship with Jada. So in twenty sixteen, Chris 106 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: Rock hosted the Academy Awards, and that was the time 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: with a bit of uproar about lack of diversity in 108 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: the nominations and Will Smith in particular, had been snubbed 109 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: for a film called Concussion that he was widely sort 110 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: of praised for. Everyone thought there was a bit of 111 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: Oscars buzz there. He didn't get nominated. So apparently Jada 112 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: reached out to Chris Rock and said, you shouldn't host. 113 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: This where all boycotting it. You should give it up. 114 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: You should if he was nominated, but they may turn. 115 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: Up exactly And Chris Rock said in this special last night, 116 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: you know like no, it was a big opportunity, it 117 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: was a huge role. 118 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: It was work. I'm you know, working comedian and. 119 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: We'll talk about inclusion. Let me host the Oscar. 120 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: He didn't get nominated all right, no one's picking on her, 121 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: you know, So his whole thing is she started it. 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: He's angry. 123 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: But he switched tone and admitted, you know, he really 124 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: loved Will Smith, that as a kid, his whole life 125 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: he rooted for him, that even when the cheating stuff 126 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: came out, that he never jumped on the bandwagon and 127 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: never criticized them, and that it just really baffled him 128 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: that he ended up sort of being this poster child 129 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: for Will Smith's anger. 130 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: Wow, it must be a lot of stuff that was 131 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: going on inside that head that night. 132 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Wild. 133 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: But when you're hosting an event like that, imagine we've 134 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: hosted stuff. Nothing is because the Oscars. But imagine someone 135 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: that you know walks up on the stage towards you. 136 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: You would think, what's going on here? What's going to happen? 137 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you don't, especially a comedian. You're rolling with 138 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: the punchers as it were. 139 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: But did you notice with Chris Chris Rock, he just 140 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: had his hands by And that's why when he put 141 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: his hands by his side, I thought he's setting himself 142 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: up for this. 143 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he must have seen the rage in Will's eyes. 144 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 2: Do you remember that guy from Kriikee? He was toasting 145 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: a thing and a guy came up. The journalist had 146 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: a few drinks and wanted to take on the guy 147 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: from Criike. Yeah, yeah, the guy from Kriike. He just 148 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 2: ran away. 149 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, maybe Will didn't want to look like I mean, 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: Kristin want look like that. Kristin wanted to put up 151 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: his dupes. Yeah, in case there wasn't going to be 152 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: a fight, and then he'd looked like, why would I 153 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: assume it was going to be violent. 154 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: He's definitely come off well in this. 155 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 4: I think so too. I think he's come off as 156 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: a champion and as he said, I wasn't raised to 157 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: punch back. That's the winning line. 158 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: Did you know that Chris Rock is fifty eight years old? Sorry? 159 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I just found this out and I have to tell 160 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: everybody he was about thirty eight. He is fifty eight? 161 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 4: Wow, yep. Well talk about open marriages next week because 162 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: that's a fascinating. 163 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: Everyone. Thanks so much, Hemma, thank you. You'll see her 164 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: mamamea dot com dot au when she's not ours on 165 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Jones and Amanda, thank you ever