WEBVTT - RHOBH - RECAP - WEEK 11 - ALANA MCLEAN 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.000 TV Reload, the podcast plant Beep that wy Hey, guys, 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.240 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.440 for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Alana MacLean, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.520 who has more opinions on housewives than Sudden and her 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.560 mother's opinions on cutlery and glassware combined, we go deep 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.479 on the eleventh episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen, which 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.160 is called Mind Your Business, which is ironic for Alana 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.480 and I because I have to tell you that we've 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.400 never minded our own business and we will tell you 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.120 our opinion even when you haven't asked for it. We 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.479 will discuss the way in which this episode is all 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.040 about Sudden Stratt and how that made us feel as 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.240 it took up most of the eleventh episode. I will 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.479 get Alana's perspective on Sudden Strat's mother and if Garcel 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.800 should have stuck her nose in the Strats business. We 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.199 will address the absence of Jennifer Tilly and if Elana 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.520 even noticed that she wasn't in this episode. Again, you 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.360 were going to get plenty of chat on Dret's drama 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.320 Army and what Shift viewers saw in their recent catch up, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.200 what we thought of Bozeman's current relationship, news about them 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.520 not saying that they love each other but still trying 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.880 to have a baby, and we have an update on 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.280 Lisa Renner and Teddy Mellencamp. There is actually so much 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.080 to talk about with this episode, with so many inside 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.440 revelations from our perspective. So guys, sit back and relax 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.600 as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.240 of Beverly Hills Season fourteen, Episode eleven. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.280 We're in pajamas. I'm in ac countlash pajamas. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.039 Oh my god, that's amazing. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.680 Well, someone gave them to me from business class and 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.520 they were going to get rid of them because they 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.400 had too many pairs, and I was like, no, that'll 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.080 be fantastic tanning pajamas. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.360 So you get to see me look at these. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.039 It's so spot cheap it, I mean, I'll look fabulous 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.040 in about five hours. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.480 I'd just like to be here for the marination of 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:50.920 the tan. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.480 Like I just asked, the journey, it's a special journey, Tanny. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.000 I just appreciate as well that we take the opportunity 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.040 to record this podcast and do things for our health 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.480 and wellbeing. Whilst we're doing it. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.720 It's like multitasking of the greatest kind self care and 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.120 judging people on the Real Housewives. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.760 It's one of my favorite things to do. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.320 It is Happy Valentine's Day, by the way, or happy 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.239 prolonged Valentine's Day to those that celebrate. Some people don't, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.240 but you know, I'm here for the love. The world 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:21.919 needs more love. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.840 Now, I want to ask you something. So I was 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.520 having a bit of a fight with someone on a 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.400 text message today, someone that I won't mention, but I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.640 went to finish it off by saying happy Valentine's Day. Now, 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.359 I want to know, is that condescending? 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.120 Well, unless they're really triggered by if they're. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.800 Like single and they take that as like a dick 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:41.840 you know what I mean? 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.160 Well, this person is single, so okay. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:44.919 I'd probably leave it. Then. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:46.600 Yeah, you know, just stick with. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.800 The have a good weekend being my advice. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.880 There, I think you're onto it. Can I also say 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.600 thank you for my highlight of my week, which is 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.520 a photo of you with a Kathy Hilton hat and 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.639 a matching bag. Honestly perfection. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.840 It arrived if you listened to last week's episode. You'll 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.120 hear that I ordered one of the Kathy Hilton Lorna 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.000 Murray hats, but. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.720 They didn't have the adult version. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.200 So I ordered a large in the child size hat 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.720 and I didn't know if it was going to fit, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.600 and it just fits, and I was so excited because 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.280 there was no returns. I was like, this is a 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.360 really expensive gamble, but it paid off. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:24.839 I think it looks cute, right. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.679 I think we found the sponsor for our podcast, so 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:28.760 we're gonna have to hit them up. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.959 Lornamurray dot com dot I use. She's Australian by the way. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.400 I know she is. I know, let's call it. Let's 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:35.080 get her on the phone. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.080 She's fabulous. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.280 She'll be like, no, who are you? People? 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.280 Oh my gosh. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.520 People like it wasn't worth it. Guys went on about 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.080 it too much. Hey, this episode was a bit flat. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.520 Hey, well, I don't want to foreshadow my scoreboard, but 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.240 I mean, at the end of the day, this episode 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.840 was like a sudden backstory, Like it was like a 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.560 cuttin spin offs. You know, we really got to go 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.320 deep and you and I had mentioned last week we 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.280 got a tip of the iceberg when it came to 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.040 her opening up and showing us more about her life. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.960 But when we got to the bottom of the iceberg, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.920 I felt like a bit of an overshare, Like did 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.480 we learn too much? Was that okay for television? 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.520 He was suffering from chronic depression. They had on all 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.440 these pills just to try to regulate stuff that wasn't working. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.719 He would go on and off of them for years, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.960 and then he would self medicate with alcohol. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:33.040 It was very heavy and very triggering, and I mean, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.600 I was going to kind of let you lead this 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.560 part of the chat because you've had such personal experience 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.000 with this, and not to dive into places where you 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:44.920 might not want to go. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.599 But like, how did you feel about watching that? 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.360 I felt so emotional, But I also am so protective 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:56.080 because for people listening, I lost my father to sudden death, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.400 and my partner lost his brother to sudden death. And 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.080 I think sometimes I feel so protective of Ben that 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.640 I put my own emotions to the side. So I 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.880 was too busy focused on how Ben was reacting to 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.440 the content, And then when I stopped to think about 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.800 it myself, because she was talking about her father, you know, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.520 she kept saying my father, and I kept thinking about 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.280 it as well, because I had similar trajectories, like I 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.719 remember the last time I saw him. I remember the 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.680 last type of physical touch of a goodbye, and that 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.320 was very triggering. I'm not to say that the Housewives 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.960 can't delve into this. If that's someone's truth, I guess 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.120 it needed to be there. What I'd take brother to 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.159 task over is the balancing of this episode. I don't 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.599 know if they got that correct, because the whole thing 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.120 overall did leave me walking away not how I want 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.080 to feel from Housewives, Do you know what I mean? 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.480 Like this is my guilty pleasure, This is the space 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.520 I go to kind of have a good time. I 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.640 probably don't want to have to have my therapist on 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.400 speed dial at the end of no. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.599 And I feel like it was It's such a fine line, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.440 and it's sort of like that Goldilock's analogy where we're like, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.400 we want a little bit of the honesty and the 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.719 rawness and the family backgrounds for all these women, but 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.200 then it's like this one to your point, it's like, well, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.400 does it cross that line where it becomes too much? 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.200 And then we're put off by it and it's not 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:18.360 what we were wanting. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.760 For that experience, and I sort of felt like, quite 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.600 often we've discussed on here about we're not seeing enough 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.159 of Sutton's life. A Kyle had a massive dig at 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.200 her last reunion because she was like, why are you 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.039 having a goal at me? You've shown like your new 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.840 horse for one episode and a Cashmere line or whatever 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:35.680 the hell she was doing. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:36.960 We don't see anything from you. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.600 And I almost felt like, was this all a bit 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.680 of a setup by the producers, Not to say it 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.760 wasn't all real and those things hadn't happened with her 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.120 family in terms of the emotions and the journey that 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.280 they've been on, but it was sort of like, oh, well, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.520 we can't let Sutton walk into the fire at this 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.240 reunion because she hasn't shown us anything real, so we 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.359 need to put an episode in there where she shows 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.520 us this real stuff. And it sort of felt potentially 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.880 a little bit forced. I don't know something about it 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.640 was just a little bit orchestrated or something. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.360 For me, even though it was emotional. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.680 One hundred percent, I hadn't thought about it that way. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.320 And this happens to me. I think every weink you 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.560 point something out to me. I felt uncomfortable, and I 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.640 didn't know what that uncomfortability was. And I think you're 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.880 right that maybe how did you phrase that? You said 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:28.200 you felt like the episode was like orchestrated, Yeah, Boston orchestrated. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.640 When you said those bodes to me, I was like, yeah, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.200 that's probably what it is. I mean, even I'm really 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.400 careful about what I share to people about my personal 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.080 stories when it comes to this sort of stuff, because 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.800 I'm so sensitive about it, and I'm also really cautious 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.200 about other people's backstory as well. I don't want to 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.680 trigger people. I try to sort of navigate around it, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.240 you know, while we sidestep this whole thing, because this 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.560 podcast is supposed to be your fun for people who 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:52.040 are listening. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:52.480 Yeah. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.800 True, Yeah, I think that those suicide warnings, when you 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.440 know that that's what's going to happen in the episode, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.040 need to be at the start of the episode or 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.800 the end, because I have feeling that they should change 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.840 that and they should have that upfront, because I reckon 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.440 if I start seeing those before episodes and maybe this 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.000 is what they don't want, you know what I mean, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:10.320 I feel like I. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.720 Wouldn't watch them, you know, well, I mean, I hadn't 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.440 even thought of it that way, and I don't think 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.000 there was anything really to suggest on the trailer that 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.080 it was going to go into this space. Like we 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.840 sort of saw the trailer last weekend with Garselle, you know, 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.480 chatting to her and she was like, I don't think 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.440 that's your business. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.120 Well, I'm so happy we're having this one on one 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.200 time together, and I wanted to talk to you because 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.360 Sat and I have had intimate conversations. You know, she's 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:38.920 so proud of how far she's come, and she would 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.440 just love to hear you say that you're proud of 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.160 her and that you love her too. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:44.760 I feel like I can see something. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.800 I don't think that's any of your business. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.120 But we didn't sort of know it was going to 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.680 go into such a heavy place and it was going 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.559 to be very raw and emotional and talk so much, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.959 you know, about this sort of topic in such great detail. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.120 So yeah, imagine for a lot of people watching it 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.480 would have been very heavy. And it's not to say 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.120 those things shouldn't get discussed or we shouldn't be showing 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.160 away from them. They're very real topics that need to 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.760 be But you're right in that forum you're walking into 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.400 it not expecting it, and they're not having that warning there. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.800 You're not even sure it's going to go to that place. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.360 So I think you're right there. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.600 You've made a good shout. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.640 Maybe it's me though, but you know I to go 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.360 into a Lolli's stater by a pumpkin. 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.120 Yeah, And then it's sort of like you to sort 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.040 of shift to where it ended in the end with 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.800 that scene with Dereet and Erica and Bow sitting at 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.800 that dinner, Then that almost kind of feels trivial, like 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.440 you're not giving that the attention it kind of needs 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.840 because you've just come from this heavy place and everything 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.160 sort of looks so insignificant in comparison. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.960 What does that mean though? What advantages? Of course? And 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:48.960 the advantage. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.360 Advantage is that he wants to have the upper hand. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.440 If you are cornered like any animal, Yep, you're going 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.800 to straight. He's afraid of how smart you are and 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.040 how you will straight. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.679 Farming and down so he can run the basis on you. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.000 You're right, because legally he can go around town and 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.800 scoop up everybody. So that you don't have good counsel. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.280 Dret needs to keep her eyes open. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.680 They really gave us a shift, and we'll have to 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.200 unpack this because we're getting ahead of ourselves. But yeah, yeah, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.040 I felt like we've really got to shift in perspectives 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.480 from the other women, especially from Bozma and Erica, on 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.640 the way that Dree was trying to share that story, 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.600 like they looked at her like, all right, you're yapping now, 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.960 you know. They were sort of they weren't taking it 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.120 the same way that they had in previous episodes, And 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.960 I feel like when you put that up against the 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.080 Sutton's backstory, maybe they did that on purpose. I don't know, 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.880 because it did make Deret talking about her separation from 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.960 PK feel quite trivial when we know it's not like 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.080 separation is really hard and dereit is going through something 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.160 really difficult. But for some reason, we just got to 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.160 see her sitting there yapping to the women, and the 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.240 women sort of were approaching it differently. I got some 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:53.520 definite side eye. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.000 That's sadying. Pik is ruthless. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.720 He's ruthless in business, which means he will be ruthless 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.000 in the business of divorce. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.880 She said to Erica, why are you giving me this 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:04.440 side eye? 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 And then Bow's lashed into her and I was like, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.160 this is a game this guy is playing. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:09.520 You wake up. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.320 And you could and then she goes holy shit, And 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.439 so she was really taken aback. I guess by their 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.240 sort of stance because before I guess she'd had their 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:19.199 full support. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.240 And then last week. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.240 We saw Erica sort of give her that advice, and 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.679 this week was definitely I've given you the advice and 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:25.760 now you're not listening to me. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.319 And I find that really hard in a friendship. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.960 I feel like, when you come to me, I'm going 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.440 to give you everything, I'm going to really consider what 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.560 I'm saying to you, and I'm going to give you 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:37.640 some really good advice. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.720 And then it feels like if someone just turns around 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:40.440 the next day is. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.640 Like, Okay, thanks for the chat, none of that, don't 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.920 care doing this over here, that's fine, do whatever you 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.880 want to do, but then don't come back to me 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.959 again and complain about it. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.840 How many times do you do that with your girlfriends, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.440 because like, let's just say they come to you with 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.520 a problem and you give them advice. I mean, I 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.560 feel like I've got a pretty tolerant with that kind 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.920 of stuff. Probably would do three interactions of giving someone 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.120 the same advice and if they're not taking it, I'd 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.120 probably be like at that point, you know, we've discussed 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.880 this before, and I don't think you'll really listening to 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.319 what I have to say, so I don't really want 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.120 to discuss this with you. I think that's how I 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:14.840 yes it. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.000 Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I'm probably the same. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.880 It's not it's certainly not the first conversation that I'm like, oh, well, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.640 I already told you what I thought. You go through 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.160 that a little bit, but I feel like that's what 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.240 they're already doing. She put that information out there last week. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.120 She said all about the horrible email that he basically 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.240 wants to take it to the clean as Erica pointed 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.080 out that he's trying to get her before ten years. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.760 You've got to be quick about this. You've got to 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.560 be lawyered up, you've got to be proactive. And she 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.360 was about to let it all go because they had 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.120 one nice conversation on the phone, and like I said 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.040 to you last week, don't forget this man is a 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.240 talent manager. He's very very smart. He knows what he's doing, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.080 he knows how to play in business. And Erica reiterated 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.120 that in what she said in her confessional. He's a 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.559 smart businessman. He's going to be smart at the business 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.160 of divorce. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.400 Both of those women at that very point though, where 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.640 she was saying this to me was like, oh, hang, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.400 going to say, we've handled this in a few different approaches, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.160 which isn't working, so now we're going to have to 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.160 be bad cop. I feel like that before, like you know, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.200 like that's how it was going and yes, I'm around. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.840 They were like, oh wait, you're not listening, so bad cop, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.160 and they just went, yes, you know what I mean? 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.920 Right, It was so yeah, And I feel like she 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.280 would have been expecting that from Erica, but when Bos 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.080 delivered it that way and she said wake up and 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.240 it was quite you know, assertive, she was not expecting 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:27.760 that from her. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.480 Can't be a victim? Do you think this is a game? Yeh, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:32.679 wake up? 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.640 Because she's been sort of being given that sort of 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.079 you know, unconditional support from her, and I guess because 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.320 she didn't know PK, she has been leaning more into 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.640 that without needing anything from PK side. But I feel 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.360 like when Erica watched Bos deliver the infos, she closed 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.720 her eyes. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:52.240 She had that. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.959 Smart face like, thank god someone else is saying it, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.680 and I don't have to be looked at like exactly 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.719 like what you're saying, Like I'm the only bad cop 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.760 trying to help you. We're trying to deliver you this information. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:03.800 Please listen. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.600 I mean it's not helping me with my feelings towards 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.680 Duit as a person. I know that you're very team 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.199 to eat this season, and I know a lot of 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.920 the people watching the show feel like that. They're like, yes, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.920 to eat, own your shit, go for it, we support you. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.200 You know, she will lose me there, though, she'll lose 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.520 me if those women are like supporting her and helping 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.280 her and giving her good advice. She dismisses it that 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.320 she'll lose me there because I find that very triggering 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:28.480 in my own life. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.640 Well, stepping back into the stuff with what was actually 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.160 going down in AUGUSTA, what I was looking forward to 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.040 talking to you about today was what happened with Garcel 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.520 and Reba, and I wanted to know because we would 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.000 all share our thoughts with our friends right about personal stuff, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.080 including stuff that would happen with our family. How comfortable 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.440 would you be with one of your friends talking to 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.840 your mother about whatever you've said to your friend. Because 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.760 I don't think I would be happy with that. I'd 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:55.720 be really disappointed. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:56.520 I feel like. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.000 The conversations that Something has had with Garcel, she potentially 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.840 wanted her to be that messenger. She wanted her to 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.440 go and lay the groundwork for the conversation that she 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.920 was going to have later about how she's felt and 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.880 how she know she's feeling like she hasn't been loved 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.440 or you know that her mum's not proud of her. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.600 I feel like it was almost the groundwork for that, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.480 but Riba was within her rights and she executed it 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:21.360 to say that is. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:22.240 None of your business. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.520 You do not know the backstory, You do not know 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.080 the complexities, you do not know the journey that we've 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.880 been on. And so yes, she was trying to come 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.720 from a place of a good friend, but you're going 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.680 to get into some murky waters when you don't know 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.560 the full family dynamic. She was never gonna she was 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.280 never going to win that chat. But I think it's softened. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.280 It softened the conversation that Sutton then had with her 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.600 mother because I think she was like, oh, well, I've 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.880 already heard this from Garcell. It wasn't coming out of 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.560 the blue, so I think she got a nicer Riba 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.760 because she sort of knew that that was coming. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.480 When we found out that she was a psychologist, it 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.200 was kind of like finding how whoa you know, her 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.360 profession was like trying. It was like finding out that 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.560 a great white shark, you know, is a babysit of 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.640 a dogs. Do you know what I mean? Like, I 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.320 would never go to a psychologist like Reaber because she 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.560 I mean, maybe she's one of those psychologists that just 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.840 sits there and listens and doesn't say anything. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.640 Yeah, well, I mean, look she was, she's guarded. She 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.120 had that tough love approach. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.160 She's probably quite blunt, but some people probably need that 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.040 from a therapist, do you know what I mean? 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:24.440 Like, no, that's not it. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.360 I mean maybe she should be the one talking to 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.200 Dry at this point about the relationship, like it's over, Darling, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.280 not even darling. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.400 She'd just be like it's over. Move on. What my 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:35.320 accent was just then? 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:36.920 It was good? I think it was great. It was 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.040 a whole lot of them. It was an Australian version 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.840 of an American person from Augusta. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.280 I need to practice of the southern accent. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.040 I know if you practice that, you would get that 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.000 down to perfection. Gussell didn't actually do too badly considering 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.760 she was in the wrong for bringing that stuff up. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.760 I think she managed to navigate Reaper's she got herself 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.880 out of it. She did she was like, Okay, this 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.000 may have been a mistake. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.880