WEBVTT - When You Match With Someone On Tinder But They Want Your Friend Instead 🔥 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.360 The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast, brought to you by Cata. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:10.000 Hello munchkins, it's Flex and Frooms here in podcast form, 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.000 and Tonight's or today's or this afternoons episode, you'd be 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.000 listening to it whenever, but I think of this as 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.079 a tonight episode because it's salacious, it's juicy, and it 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.800 involves a guy called ASMR Daddy. If you want to go, actually, no, 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.560 look at his Instagram profile after you listen to this, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.560 just because you're going to listen to this podcast and 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.760 then you're going to go look at one of his 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.800 videos and then he can go to his Instagram to 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.640 get the whole package, because he is a man who 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:42.120 records porn episodes that are just audio. Have people in 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.680 this studio listen to them? 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.560 Yes, as a group team building exit grides. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.680 Kata's hr is having an absolute CONNIPTIONI in the corner, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:53.720 but I'm just gonna leave it at that. Have a 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.240 little listen. We learned a little bit about dirty talk, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.760 which I think is an underutilized sexual experience which sends 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.319 shivers down my spine in a good way, good and bad. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.600 I'm scared of it, but of course it's nice. Let's 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.240 just get straight into it. Flex And have you ever 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.600 been on a dating app and you've got a picture 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.280 of you and a friend up? Let's say, I know 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:17.959 you don't really like to put a friends on your profile, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:18.319 but I like. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.520 To do imagination exercises. Let me take it there. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.880 Yep, Okay, you're on the dating app, picture of you 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.280 and your friend. Your friend is considerably attractive. Yeah, as 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.960 they all are more attractive than the other gets and 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.160 you say someone you think is really hot on the app, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.840 so you swipe right, you guys match. He hits you 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.560 back and says, hey, you seem really great and I'm 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.240 actually interested in your friend? Can I have her number? 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.080 The classic bait and switch? What do I feel about it? 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.760 Has it happened to you? No, it hasn't, because I 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.840 have friends in my profile pictures. But if it did, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.520 that's the risk you take by integrating more than one face, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.160 because what you're doing you should be marketing you as 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.080 the one person. Now you're marketing you and the crew. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.280 In some ways, you're saying, here, I'm an option, and 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.440 so is the crew. Come to me and I will 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.600 disseminate any expressions of interest. I'd imagine that happens quite 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.000 a bit. Well, I haven't done it before, but maybe 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:17.520 I want to. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.800 You want to be on the receiving end, Maybe I. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.400 Want to do that. If I see a hotty in 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.640 the background. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.840 I would feel really bad. I don't want to do 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.799 that because they've obviously you've matched them, so they think 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.639 you're attractive and. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.400 Then you just else as I meant to let them know. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:33.919 Discussing and true, Well. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.799 Have you done it? Have you experienced it? What's going on? No, 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:38.200 this is a confession. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.560 No, someone just messaged me and said, do you think 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.680 that's bad? 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:41.880 Like? 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.960 Has that ever happened? Can you talk about on airs? 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.200 I'm just airing it. We were discussing this without producer Brook, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.440 who is in the studio. We've set a mic up 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.440 specifically for her to tell us this story. She is 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.880 telling us about a time this happened to her. Which 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.200 end was she on? I don't know, let's hear Highbrook. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.200 Hi, So it actually happened to me in reverse. So 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.600 my best friend and I shared a Tinder account. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.000 And it's like a shared Facebook. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.760 Yeah, it was a shared one, and it was It 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.040 was absolutely chaos because we could literally be in the 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.040 same chat talking to the same guy and they would 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.200 have no idea. It was the best thing ever until 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.400 one day a guy was just saying, oh. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.280 But which one are you? 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.640 I preferred this one, and it turned out he was 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.919 actually meaning me, not her. 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.760 But I knew that. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.000 She could see all these chats, so I was like, oh, 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.480 I don't know. I don't want to offend her. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.400 But it wasn't that the point, Like, what was the 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.480 point of having the shared account if not to It. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.880 Was honestly just for to mess around with. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:37.600 It wasn't really to do anything with. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.960 Were you single at the time, Yeah, we both were 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:46.040 the old just kidding experience. But it surprised me because 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.680 I thought it was going to happen the other way around, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.880 because my friends, I would say, is more attractive than me. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.840 So I was kind of shook by that. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.240 Did you have when you made the joint account? Were 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.000 you under the impression that people would just want to 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.280 speak to both of you or were you expecting that 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.040 someone'd be like just double checking, I want to talk 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:07.240 to the Shrek loving croc wearing hytail print on print wearing, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:08.280 not the other one. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.840 I think at the time I had been banned on 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:16.400 Tinder in the past. So we were just like I honestly, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.400 I can't even remember lies. It's happened little time now, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.479 but it was like our way around it. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.120 We're like, why don't we get a joint account? 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.919 So we did it. But you can imagine how it 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.440 turned into. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.240 They thought they were getting a package deal and yeah, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.560 so it kind of went to a few weird places. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:33.840 As it would. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.560 Oh yeah, I mean it was amazing, But. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.320 You can't be doing a double profile if you're not 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:39.560 willing to chop out. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.680 Double profile I think is great in theory. I don't 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:47.440 think enough people are friends with people who are their 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.120 aesthetic match. I think it'd be if I had a 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.320 joint account with any of my friends, it'd be mayhem 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.680 mm be like what vibes are we going to get 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.479 in return? To be so confusing, I think I'm. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.000 With people that are all on the same level of attractiveness. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.320 I'm not talking attractiveness, I'm talking aesthetics. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.960 That's same. I feel like aesthetics attract aesthetics. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.080 No, I wish they did. You're a bit more no, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.520 but you like that could be your experience. But there's 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:19.640 a way that the gamer bro art girl archetype exists 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:24.080 if aesthetics attracted aesthetics. There's no way the creative girl 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.680 finance bro archetype exists if aesthetic attracts aesthetics. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.159 But you know we are part of that pipeline. Unfortunately 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.440 it happens. Well, thanks Brook, no worries. We're unfortunately banned now. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.159 So so that's your fourth fourth account. We'll have to 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:39.880 hear the other stories. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.400 Thank god, you've got a boyfriend now. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.000 Gotta keep off the apps. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.600 Leave it all for us. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.880 This is flex and frooms. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.520 We love TikTok. We're spend a lot of time on 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.360 TikTok too much realistically, Yeah, yes, but I mean it's 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.120 kind of replaced the time that I would have spent 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.440 on Facebook, and I'm actually learning stif I. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.600 Would say my feed is twenty percent educational, like there 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.800 is a lot of fodder that I'm sifting through to 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.680 get to the educational stuff. And because everybody's trying to 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.760 create content that suits this algorithm, things are getting shorter 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.160 and shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter. Like, I'm 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.039 so sorry I cannot learn with a seven second video. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.440 I'm gonna need you to make the three to five 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.160 minute once and make them quick. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.760 One of the earlier news guys that does the little 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.760 news wrap up in the morning. He was saying that 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:33.279 supposedly Australian tech experts want TikTok to be banned, but 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.240 essentially this Australian data company has released about TikTok, that 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.880 apparently they are harvesting users data in a way that 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.200 is unbecoming of them to do so. Yeah, and that 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.839 the Chinese company has it and I didn't really explain 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:50.839 or disclose that. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.919 So what I also read in a similar article is 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.120 that they're saying that most social media apps have really 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.200 ridiculous terms and conditions, so if anybody really read through them, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.240 they wouldn't feel totally comfortable giving anybody this much access 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.839 to their data, but that TikTok asks for just way 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.000 too much in comparison. Here's the thing. People are given 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.880 these terms and conditions and they accept it, and I 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.000 feel like most people are more concerned with being entertained 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.880 than protecting their privacy in this instance. Though TikTok has 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.280 said before they're not a social media app, They're a 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.560 tech company. The function of TikTok for the user is 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.640 like it's a social media app. No, it's always been 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.120 made to mind data to build more advanced algorithms, to 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.400 then sell these algorithms to other people. I just feel 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.080 like people are being a bit xenophobic. They're like, mmm, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.080 but it's the Chinese government that's doing it. It's Chinese 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.240 tech companies that are doing it. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.640 What who cares? 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:48.680 At this point? 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.920 That's what I was thinking, because I'm like, we knew, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:57.160 we have literal evidence that Facebook and Instagram have used 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.240 our data in crazy ways, but I feel like nobody 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.120 cares that much because it's USA, so it's our brethren. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.720 Like do you remember or like what was it called 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.080 Cambridge Analytic Hight when they like used all the data 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.680 to change the election? Literally, do you remember the onnly 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.600 reason Donald Trump got into power was because like the 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.080 only reason or a big reason, like an enormous reason 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.920 was because Facebook ads. Somehow I'm totally butchering this, but 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.960 like some political parties bought ads in a way that 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.760 like got all the ads to the right people, and 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.880 like that shouldn't really be how political campaigns run. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.640 No digital marketing just vibes. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.240 I agree that it's cenophobic, but I also think people 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.920 probably have like a fair enough reason to be scared 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:47.120 of it. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.360 Either way, I feel like leave the apps. The thing 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.040 about me, I'm an app's girly. If I see any 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.360 app that piques my interest even slightly, I'm downloading it, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.079 accepting commissions. Leave it on my phone, letting it take 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:05.200 my metadata like location tags on private browser, never incognito mode. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.960 Don't need it, so I'm on board. Let me get involved. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:10.040 Bye dance. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.280 They can't take TikTok away now we just gotten into it. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:14.440 I know it's a bit like that. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.800 I'll give all the other apps to TikTok really one 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.800 hundred percent. Well, thank you for kind of giving us 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:21.920 all the facts we need. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.400 This is flex and Froomes on Keta back in July. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.600 A little bit earlier this month, we got an email. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.679 The title was Pawn Podcasts Politics. A woman called Jesco's 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.679 HIPHUMO love that per I just had my first experimental 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.520 experience with ASMR pawn and then in brackets, imagine if 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.040 that was it? Send email I love that, I love it. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.120 In college. In turn, as a listener of the Potty, 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.240 I think it would be interesting to hear an interview 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.440 with ASMR Daddy, who happens to be Australian with some 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.400 strong opinions on feminism, sub safety, et cetera. This is 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.400 the ASMR video I literally just listened to and I'm 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.400 going to play it right now. Just find a little 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:12.640 bit that's not too salacious vulnerable at my mercy. That's 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:17.080 ASMI Daddy. He basically does these thirty minute meditations almost 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.440 where he's guiding you through what to do. He's the dom. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.640 He's telling you you're a dirty little bip and he 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.280 wants to beep and you're beep and do it until 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:28.920 you beep. So she goes on to say, this is 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.840 his Instagram and send me his Instagram. She said, this 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.040 is not a sponsored ad. I don't know this person, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.040 just a midnight discovery. Yes, get it. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.360 And so this has piqued your interest? Why? 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.319 Because audio pawn is super interesting. I know there's a 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.160 lot of like women like a lot of sites that 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.120 cater to women. And weirdly enough, I was on TikTok 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:54.240 yesterday and this woman was like, it came off on 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.959 my for you page obviously because I knew I was 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.000 going to come in today and do this, and I 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.280 was basically this woman saying that she'd start out of 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.240 this site, which was all audio porn for women, because 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.920 women are better at using their imaginations with sex, whereas 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:12.080 men like to have the visual apparently. And so what 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.439 I've gone and done is collected ASMMR Daddy's name. Now 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:16.559 we don't know his actual. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.320 Name, but he goes by Rick in the community. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.800 So Rick, I like that, I do too. On his Instagram, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.240 you can like kind of see his face. He's got 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.600 long hair and tattoos. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.199 And what is your interest with asmar Daddy? Is this? 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:28.520 Like? 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.560 Are you interested in asmar porn? Are you intrigued? Are 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.480 you curious? What do you want to find out from him? 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.600 Because I feel like you've got your phone up a 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:38.240 little call. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.360 To pressing dial. I guess I want to know how 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.160 he got into it, and I want to talk to 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.760 him about parasocial relationships. So if you don't know what 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.200 a parasocial relationship is, it's when you like follow someone 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.719 on Instagram, for example, you follow them so much so 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.319 you think that you know them. You've experienced parasocial relationships. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.080 Little FLEXI I have, I shall have and you've had 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.080 to put boundaries up at. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.080 I have And it's fine. It goes both ways. I 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.640 think there's like a huge benefit of having a parasosal 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.960 relationship because it creates this closer connection with you and 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:13.400 people who consume you. And what often happens is this 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.720 I would call a bit of a paradox. When people 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.480 seek to understand you as a person, they can kind 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.640 of bypass your boundaries to do so, Like they want 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.680 more context so you appear more real. They want to 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.840 know what you eat and when you sleep, and who 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.120 you date, and what your mental illnesses are so they 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.600 can view you as a full picture, not recognizing that 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.800 by requesting that information they're kind of dehumanizing you. BM 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.760 hype to hear you chat to him. I don't know 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.600 what I would want to ask him just yet, but 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.720 I'm keen to see what he's about, why he does it, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.840 and any kind of difficulties with like the career that 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.520 he's created for himself. I know I scrolled through his 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.679 Instagram briefly and I saw him have to do a 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.280 PSA to people to you know, not send him unclessd 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.480 nudes and to not like solicit him for sex or anything, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.920 like he's just here to provide a service for consumption, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.240 like the videos, not him. So I thought that was fascinating, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:12.560 But there's a little shit chat. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.160 Hell, Hi, Rick, how are you going. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:19.640 Good? 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.079 Yourself? 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.120 Good? Good? 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.200 I'm through me and flex Hi. Can you hear her? 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.920 This is so much fun. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.000 We're good, We're good, We're We're excited to talk to you. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.080 I'm a little bit nervous. We don't talk to people 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.400 on the phone often or really sad. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.760 You got phone anxiety. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.679 For phone conversations anymore? 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.480 Literally, not me, not us. So Rick, we know that 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.080 Rick is your ASMR daddy name. Is that correct? 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:50.080 Correct? 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:50.640 Yeah? 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.920 Yes, Well could you start by telling me how you 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.800 got into being a SMR daddy? 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:56.720 Yeah? 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.800 I mean, look, it really began the early days of lockdown. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.760 So it was probably like like a couple of months 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.680 into that, that first lockdown a couple of years ago, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.199 and I was having a zoom call with a friend 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.000 and she and I were just discussing like how bad 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.520 modern porn was, right, because this was kind of like 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.480 the this was the beginning of everyone's like lockdown sexual frustration. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:26.280 I think she was constantly just talking about like how 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.400 terrible you know, the mainstream porn was. It was very 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:34.120 you know from the cis head male gaze and her 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.960 big big issue with it was always like, oh my god, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.800 by the men so quiet, and obviously you know we 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.120 we've been partners in the past, and she knew that 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.200 I had a talent for talking dirty. And yeah, she 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.200 just asked if I could send her like a couple 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.160 of audios just to get her through like her lockdown 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.120 sexual frustration. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.960 A resourceful queen, go out into your community and seek help. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.840 So like I did, Like I just I recorded a 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.720 couple of things and sent it through to her, and 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.160 then like the next time we caught up on zoom, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.880 she was like, look, please don't get mad. I should 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.760 have asked for permission. And I'm like, what did you do? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.960 And she's like, look, I sent them to the group 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.320 chat and now like now myself and a couple of 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.880 like girls have like requests. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.120 Not the distribution channel. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.920 And so that's what really began. And look, she was 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.640 really like she was kind of the inspiration. She's like, look, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.560 this is a public service. Can you just please put 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.640 this out there. I'm sure it'll find an audience. And yeah, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.040 like fast forward, like I still remember when it first 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.440 like it ticked over like ten thousand views over a 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.760 pornhub and I'm like, oh my god, this really does 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.440 have an audience. So yeah, that's how it's not. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.280 Wow, Okay, let's hes got a hand up. She's got 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:46.680 a question. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.200 Got a question for you, Rick is answer my daddy. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.720 Your full time job at the moment? Is that your 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.920 sole income stream or are you moonlighting? 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:55.400 Yeah? 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.520 Yeah, no, like it's it's definitely just something that I'm 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.760 still doing on the side. Look, it got to a point, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.280 probably like twelve months in where it could have been 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.160 something but if I could have taken a turn and 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.760 done it full time. But yeah, look, there's a part 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.760 of me that doesn't want to make it my full 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.520 time job because I don't really I don't want to 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.920 take like the joy out of it, like the you know, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.720 I don't want to make it a job. Like I 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.840 think part of the reason that it's always kind of 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.120 resonated is with people is that I'm not doing it 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.120 for the paycheck, like and and the organic nature of it, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.160 Like I only make stuff when i'm you know, in 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.600 the mood, or I feel like it or I'm inspired. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.960 I don't want to try to adhere to like a 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.560 rigid schedule. Me Like, all right, well, got to get 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.800 out my third audio for the fortnight, you know, because 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.640 then it's just gonna It's like if it starts becoming 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.760 a job. I think if like something you're passionate about 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.040 starts becoming a job, you just you lose. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.280 A little bit of that love for it. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.760 So yeah, no, it's just something that I'm doing on 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.200 the side. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.240 I like that a little side pace. How did you 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.160 learn how to talk dirty? 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:06.760 This is a great question for me. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.919 I can get really deep on this because, look, I 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.720 think a big part of it comes from the fact that, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.760 you know, like my like growing up in suburban kind 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.119 of you know, Australia. You know, I was very much 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:25.440 surrounded by and raised by that toxic you know, Australian masculinity, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.120 and a huge part of that is just not being 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.080 able to communicate about how you feel, not being able 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.440 to like communicate, you know, clearly with people about your emotions. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.399 And so to me, it really began in kind of 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.160 breaking that down and learning how to actually talk about 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:46.720 my feelings and talk about you know, my fears, like 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.160 all like those deeply those deep things that I kind 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.680 of you know, got into through therapy. That's where it 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.119 really where it began. When I started learning how to 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.159 communicate and how like when you do that clearly and 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.119 concisely with people, it just takes a lot of issues 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.240 off the table. And so I started, you know, when 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:08.120 I started bringing that into sex, like it made sex better, right, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.200 like being able to clearly kind of communicate with people 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.800 your desires and find out what their desires are, and 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.520 being able to have those honest conversations. So I think 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.000 that's where it began. And the dirty talk was just 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.520 really an extension of that, like verbalizing fantasies and and 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.000 and speaking them aloud and kind of pushing past that 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.440 shame that so many people have around sex still. So 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.479 I have to give credit to just sort of amazing 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.240 women in my life as well, like I had, so 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.040 there were some older women in my twenties who kind 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.880 of really started introducing me to kink because they kind 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.639 of saw my interest in it and helped me kind of, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.040 you know, get over that kind of initial hump of 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:59.919 the unintended discussing and talking about as a dad joke freezer. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.439 Well, while we have you can we get just a 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.800 dirty talking cheek go to people who don't want to 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.600 uncover and unpack their fears and wants and needs before 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.000 they use the skill. So you what's a fail safe 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:17.760 maybe phrase or you know, formation of words that kind 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.160 of does the trick more often than not. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:21.200 Okay, do you know what? 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.560 I think it's just a great startup phase is do 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:25.280 you like that? 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.080 I was going to say that, you. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.400 Know, you're not even diving into the r raided stuff yet, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.880 but just clearly asking like is this something you're enjoying? 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.240 I think is a great way to kind of kick 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.080