Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast, brought to you by Cata.
Speaker 2: Hello munchkins, it's Flex and Frooms here in podcast form,
Speaker 2: and Tonight's or today's or this afternoons episode, you'd be
Speaker 2: listening to it whenever, but I think of this as
Speaker 2: a tonight episode because it's salacious, it's juicy, and it
Speaker 2: involves a guy called ASMR Daddy. If you want to go, actually, no,
Speaker 2: look at his Instagram profile after you listen to this,
Speaker 2: just because you're going to listen to this podcast and
Speaker 2: then you're going to go look at one of his
Speaker 2: videos and then he can go to his Instagram to
Speaker 2: get the whole package, because he is a man who
Speaker 2: records porn episodes that are just audio. Have people in
Speaker 2: this studio listen to them?
Speaker 3: Yes, as a group team building exit grides.
Speaker 2: Kata's hr is having an absolute CONNIPTIONI in the corner,
Speaker 2: but I'm just gonna leave it at that. Have a
Speaker 2: little listen. We learned a little bit about dirty talk,
Speaker 2: which I think is an underutilized sexual experience which sends
Speaker 2: shivers down my spine in a good way, good and bad.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of it, but of course it's nice. Let's
Speaker 2: just get straight into it. Flex And have you ever
Speaker 2: been on a dating app and you've got a picture
Speaker 2: of you and a friend up? Let's say, I know
Speaker 2: you don't really like to put a friends on your profile,
Speaker 2: but I like.
Speaker 3: To do imagination exercises. Let me take it there.
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, you're on the dating app, picture of you
Speaker 2: and your friend. Your friend is considerably attractive. Yeah, as
Speaker 2: they all are more attractive than the other gets and
Speaker 2: you say someone you think is really hot on the app,
Speaker 2: so you swipe right, you guys match. He hits you
Speaker 2: back and says, hey, you seem really great and I'm
Speaker 2: actually interested in your friend? Can I have her number?
Speaker 3: The classic bait and switch? What do I feel about it?
Speaker 3: Has it happened to you? No, it hasn't, because I
Speaker 3: have friends in my profile pictures. But if it did,
Speaker 3: that's the risk you take by integrating more than one face,
Speaker 3: because what you're doing you should be marketing you as
Speaker 3: the one person. Now you're marketing you and the crew.
Speaker 3: In some ways, you're saying, here, I'm an option, and
Speaker 3: so is the crew. Come to me and I will
Speaker 3: disseminate any expressions of interest. I'd imagine that happens quite
Speaker 3: a bit. Well, I haven't done it before, but maybe
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: You want to be on the receiving end, Maybe I.
Speaker 3: Want to do that. If I see a hotty in
Speaker 3: the background.
Speaker 2: I would feel really bad. I don't want to do
Speaker 2: that because they've obviously you've matched them, so they think
Speaker 2: you're attractive and.
Speaker 3: Then you just else as I meant to let them know.
Speaker 2: Discussing and true, Well.
Speaker 3: Have you done it? Have you experienced it? What's going on? No,
Speaker 3: this is a confession.
Speaker 2: No, someone just messaged me and said, do you think
Speaker 2: that's bad?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Has that ever happened? Can you talk about on airs?
Speaker 2: I'm just airing it. We were discussing this without producer Brook,
Speaker 2: who is in the studio. We've set a mic up
Speaker 2: specifically for her to tell us this story. She is
Speaker 2: telling us about a time this happened to her. Which
Speaker 2: end was she on? I don't know, let's hear Highbrook.
Speaker 5: Hi, So it actually happened to me in reverse. So
Speaker 5: my best friend and I shared a Tinder account.
Speaker 3: And it's like a shared Facebook.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a shared one, and it was It
Speaker 5: was absolutely chaos because we could literally be in the
Speaker 5: same chat talking to the same guy and they would
Speaker 5: have no idea. It was the best thing ever until
Speaker 5: one day a guy was just saying, oh.
Speaker 2: But which one are you?
Speaker 5: I preferred this one, and it turned out he was
Speaker 5: actually meaning me, not her.
Speaker 2: But I knew that.
Speaker 5: She could see all these chats, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't want to offend her.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't that the point, Like, what was the
Speaker 3: point of having the shared account if not to It.
Speaker 5: Was honestly just for to mess around with.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really to do anything with.
Speaker 5: Were you single at the time, Yeah, we both were
Speaker 5: the old just kidding experience. But it surprised me because
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to happen the other way around,
Speaker 5: because my friends, I would say, is more attractive than me.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of shook by that.
Speaker 3: Did you have when you made the joint account? Were
Speaker 3: you under the impression that people would just want to
Speaker 3: speak to both of you or were you expecting that
Speaker 3: someone'd be like just double checking, I want to talk
Speaker 3: to the Shrek loving croc wearing hytail print on print wearing,
Speaker 3: not the other one.
Speaker 5: I think at the time I had been banned on
Speaker 5: Tinder in the past. So we were just like I honestly,
Speaker 5: I can't even remember lies. It's happened little time now,
Speaker 5: but it was like our way around it.
Speaker 3: We're like, why don't we get a joint account?
Speaker 2: So we did it. But you can imagine how it
Speaker 2: turned into.
Speaker 5: They thought they were getting a package deal and yeah,
Speaker 5: so it kind of went to a few weird places.
Speaker 3: As it would.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean it was amazing, But.
Speaker 2: You can't be doing a double profile if you're not
Speaker 2: willing to chop out.
Speaker 3: Double profile I think is great in theory. I don't
Speaker 3: think enough people are friends with people who are their
Speaker 3: aesthetic match. I think it'd be if I had a
Speaker 3: joint account with any of my friends, it'd be mayhem
Speaker 3: mm be like what vibes are we going to get
Speaker 3: in return? To be so confusing, I think I'm.
Speaker 2: With people that are all on the same level of attractiveness.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking attractiveness, I'm talking aesthetics.
Speaker 2: That's same. I feel like aesthetics attract aesthetics.
Speaker 3: No, I wish they did. You're a bit more no,
Speaker 3: but you like that could be your experience. But there's
Speaker 3: a way that the gamer bro art girl archetype exists
Speaker 3: if aesthetics attracted aesthetics. There's no way the creative girl
Speaker 3: finance bro archetype exists if aesthetic attracts aesthetics.
Speaker 2: But you know we are part of that pipeline. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: it happens. Well, thanks Brook, no worries. We're unfortunately banned now.
Speaker 3: So so that's your fourth fourth account. We'll have to
Speaker 3: hear the other stories.
Speaker 2: Thank god, you've got a boyfriend now.
Speaker 5: Gotta keep off the apps.
Speaker 2: Leave it all for us.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: We love TikTok. We're spend a lot of time on
Speaker 2: TikTok too much realistically, Yeah, yes, but I mean it's
Speaker 2: kind of replaced the time that I would have spent
Speaker 2: on Facebook, and I'm actually learning stif I.
Speaker 3: Would say my feed is twenty percent educational, like there
Speaker 3: is a lot of fodder that I'm sifting through to
Speaker 3: get to the educational stuff. And because everybody's trying to
Speaker 3: create content that suits this algorithm, things are getting shorter
Speaker 3: and shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter. Like, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry I cannot learn with a seven second video.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to make the three to five
Speaker 3: minute once and make them quick.
Speaker 2: One of the earlier news guys that does the little
Speaker 2: news wrap up in the morning. He was saying that
Speaker 2: supposedly Australian tech experts want TikTok to be banned, but
Speaker 2: essentially this Australian data company has released about TikTok, that
Speaker 2: apparently they are harvesting users data in a way that
Speaker 2: is unbecoming of them to do so. Yeah, and that
Speaker 2: the Chinese company has it and I didn't really explain
Speaker 2: or disclose that.
Speaker 3: So what I also read in a similar article is
Speaker 3: that they're saying that most social media apps have really
Speaker 3: ridiculous terms and conditions, so if anybody really read through them,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't feel totally comfortable giving anybody this much access
Speaker 3: to their data, but that TikTok asks for just way
Speaker 3: too much in comparison. Here's the thing. People are given
Speaker 3: these terms and conditions and they accept it, and I
Speaker 3: feel like most people are more concerned with being entertained
Speaker 3: than protecting their privacy in this instance. Though TikTok has
Speaker 3: said before they're not a social media app, They're a
Speaker 3: tech company. The function of TikTok for the user is
Speaker 3: like it's a social media app. No, it's always been
Speaker 3: made to mind data to build more advanced algorithms, to
Speaker 3: then sell these algorithms to other people. I just feel
Speaker 3: like people are being a bit xenophobic. They're like, mmm,
Speaker 3: but it's the Chinese government that's doing it. It's Chinese
Speaker 3: tech companies that are doing it.
Speaker 2: What who cares?
Speaker 3: At this point?
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking, because I'm like, we knew,
Speaker 2: we have literal evidence that Facebook and Instagram have used
Speaker 2: our data in crazy ways, but I feel like nobody
Speaker 2: cares that much because it's USA, so it's our brethren.
Speaker 2: Like do you remember or like what was it called
Speaker 2: Cambridge Analytic Hight when they like used all the data
Speaker 2: to change the election? Literally, do you remember the onnly
Speaker 2: reason Donald Trump got into power was because like the
Speaker 2: only reason or a big reason, like an enormous reason
Speaker 2: was because Facebook ads. Somehow I'm totally butchering this, but
Speaker 2: like some political parties bought ads in a way that
Speaker 2: like got all the ads to the right people, and
Speaker 2: like that shouldn't really be how political campaigns run.
Speaker 3: No digital marketing just vibes.
Speaker 2: I agree that it's cenophobic, but I also think people
Speaker 2: probably have like a fair enough reason to be scared
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Either way, I feel like leave the apps. The thing
Speaker 3: about me, I'm an app's girly. If I see any
Speaker 3: app that piques my interest even slightly, I'm downloading it,
Speaker 3: accepting commissions. Leave it on my phone, letting it take
Speaker 3: my metadata like location tags on private browser, never incognito mode.
Speaker 3: Don't need it, so I'm on board. Let me get involved.
Speaker 2: Bye dance.
Speaker 3: They can't take TikTok away now we just gotten into it.
Speaker 2: I know it's a bit like that.
Speaker 3: I'll give all the other apps to TikTok really one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. Well, thank you for kind of giving us
Speaker 3: all the facts we need.
Speaker 1: This is flex and Froomes on Keta back in July.
Speaker 2: A little bit earlier this month, we got an email.
Speaker 2: The title was Pawn Podcasts Politics. A woman called Jesco's
Speaker 2: HIPHUMO love that per I just had my first experimental
Speaker 2: experience with ASMR pawn and then in brackets, imagine if
Speaker 2: that was it? Send email I love that, I love it.
Speaker 2: In college. In turn, as a listener of the Potty,
Speaker 2: I think it would be interesting to hear an interview
Speaker 2: with ASMR Daddy, who happens to be Australian with some
Speaker 2: strong opinions on feminism, sub safety, et cetera. This is
Speaker 2: the ASMR video I literally just listened to and I'm
Speaker 2: going to play it right now. Just find a little
Speaker 2: bit that's not too salacious vulnerable at my mercy. That's
Speaker 2: ASMI Daddy. He basically does these thirty minute meditations almost
Speaker 2: where he's guiding you through what to do. He's the dom.
Speaker 2: He's telling you you're a dirty little bip and he
Speaker 2: wants to beep and you're beep and do it until
Speaker 2: you beep. So she goes on to say, this is
Speaker 2: his Instagram and send me his Instagram. She said, this
Speaker 2: is not a sponsored ad. I don't know this person,
Speaker 2: just a midnight discovery. Yes, get it.
Speaker 3: And so this has piqued your interest? Why?
Speaker 2: Because audio pawn is super interesting. I know there's a
Speaker 2: lot of like women like a lot of sites that
Speaker 2: cater to women. And weirdly enough, I was on TikTok
Speaker 2: yesterday and this woman was like, it came off on
Speaker 2: my for you page obviously because I knew I was
Speaker 2: going to come in today and do this, and I
Speaker 2: was basically this woman saying that she'd start out of
Speaker 2: this site, which was all audio porn for women, because
Speaker 2: women are better at using their imaginations with sex, whereas
Speaker 2: men like to have the visual apparently. And so what
Speaker 2: I've gone and done is collected ASMMR Daddy's name. Now
Speaker 2: we don't know his actual.
Speaker 3: Name, but he goes by Rick in the community.
Speaker 2: So Rick, I like that, I do too. On his Instagram,
Speaker 2: you can like kind of see his face. He's got
Speaker 2: long hair and tattoos.
Speaker 3: And what is your interest with asmar Daddy? Is this?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you interested in asmar porn? Are you intrigued? Are
Speaker 3: you curious? What do you want to find out from him?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like you've got your phone up a
Speaker 3: little call.
Speaker 2: To pressing dial. I guess I want to know how
Speaker 2: he got into it, and I want to talk to
Speaker 2: him about parasocial relationships. So if you don't know what
Speaker 2: a parasocial relationship is, it's when you like follow someone
Speaker 2: on Instagram, for example, you follow them so much so
Speaker 2: you think that you know them. You've experienced parasocial relationships.
Speaker 2: Little FLEXI I have, I shall have and you've had
Speaker 2: to put boundaries up at.
Speaker 3: I have And it's fine. It goes both ways. I
Speaker 3: think there's like a huge benefit of having a parasosal
Speaker 3: relationship because it creates this closer connection with you and
Speaker 3: people who consume you. And what often happens is this
Speaker 3: I would call a bit of a paradox. When people
Speaker 3: seek to understand you as a person, they can kind
Speaker 3: of bypass your boundaries to do so, Like they want
Speaker 3: more context so you appear more real. They want to
Speaker 3: know what you eat and when you sleep, and who
Speaker 3: you date, and what your mental illnesses are so they
Speaker 3: can view you as a full picture, not recognizing that
Speaker 3: by requesting that information they're kind of dehumanizing you. BM
Speaker 3: hype to hear you chat to him. I don't know
Speaker 3: what I would want to ask him just yet, but
Speaker 3: I'm keen to see what he's about, why he does it,
Speaker 3: and any kind of difficulties with like the career that
Speaker 3: he's created for himself. I know I scrolled through his
Speaker 3: Instagram briefly and I saw him have to do a
Speaker 3: PSA to people to you know, not send him unclessd
Speaker 3: nudes and to not like solicit him for sex or anything,
Speaker 3: like he's just here to provide a service for consumption,
Speaker 3: like the videos, not him. So I thought that was fascinating,
Speaker 3: But there's a little shit chat.
Speaker 2: Hell, Hi, Rick, how are you going.
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 1: Yourself?
Speaker 4: Good? Good?
Speaker 2: I'm through me and flex Hi. Can you hear her?
Speaker 3: This is so much fun.
Speaker 2: We're good, We're good, We're We're excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit nervous. We don't talk to people
Speaker 2: on the phone often or really sad.
Speaker 3: You got phone anxiety.
Speaker 4: For phone conversations anymore?
Speaker 2: Literally, not me, not us. So Rick, we know that
Speaker 2: Rick is your ASMR daddy name. Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, Well could you start by telling me how you
Speaker 2: got into being a SMR daddy?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it really began the early days of lockdown.
Speaker 4: So it was probably like like a couple of months
Speaker 4: into that, that first lockdown a couple of years ago,
Speaker 4: and I was having a zoom call with a friend
Speaker 4: and she and I were just discussing like how bad
Speaker 4: modern porn was, right, because this was kind of like
Speaker 4: the this was the beginning of everyone's like lockdown sexual frustration.
Speaker 4: I think she was constantly just talking about like how
Speaker 4: terrible you know, the mainstream porn was. It was very
Speaker 4: you know from the cis head male gaze and her
Speaker 4: big big issue with it was always like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: by the men so quiet, and obviously you know we
Speaker 4: we've been partners in the past, and she knew that
Speaker 4: I had a talent for talking dirty. And yeah, she
Speaker 4: just asked if I could send her like a couple
Speaker 4: of audios just to get her through like her lockdown
Speaker 4: sexual frustration.
Speaker 3: A resourceful queen, go out into your community and seek help.
Speaker 4: So like I did, Like I just I recorded a
Speaker 4: couple of things and sent it through to her, and
Speaker 4: then like the next time we caught up on zoom,
Speaker 4: she was like, look, please don't get mad. I should
Speaker 4: have asked for permission. And I'm like, what did you do?
Speaker 4: And she's like, look, I sent them to the group
Speaker 4: chat and now like now myself and a couple of
Speaker 4: like girls have like requests.
Speaker 3: Not the distribution channel.
Speaker 4: And so that's what really began. And look, she was
Speaker 4: really like she was kind of the inspiration. She's like, look,
Speaker 4: this is a public service. Can you just please put
Speaker 4: this out there. I'm sure it'll find an audience. And yeah,
Speaker 4: like fast forward, like I still remember when it first
Speaker 4: like it ticked over like ten thousand views over a
Speaker 4: pornhub and I'm like, oh my god, this really does
Speaker 4: have an audience. So yeah, that's how it's not.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, let's hes got a hand up. She's got
Speaker 2: a question.
Speaker 3: Got a question for you, Rick is answer my daddy.
Speaker 3: Your full time job at the moment? Is that your
Speaker 3: sole income stream or are you moonlighting?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, like it's it's definitely just something that I'm
Speaker 4: still doing on the side. Look, it got to a point,
Speaker 4: probably like twelve months in where it could have been
Speaker 4: something but if I could have taken a turn and
Speaker 4: done it full time. But yeah, look, there's a part
Speaker 4: of me that doesn't want to make it my full
Speaker 4: time job because I don't really I don't want to
Speaker 4: take like the joy out of it, like the you know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to make it a job. Like I
Speaker 4: think part of the reason that it's always kind of
Speaker 4: resonated is with people is that I'm not doing it
Speaker 4: for the paycheck, like and and the organic nature of it,
Speaker 4: Like I only make stuff when i'm you know, in
Speaker 4: the mood, or I feel like it or I'm inspired.
Speaker 4: I don't want to try to adhere to like a
Speaker 4: rigid schedule. Me Like, all right, well, got to get
Speaker 4: out my third audio for the fortnight, you know, because
Speaker 4: then it's just gonna It's like if it starts becoming
Speaker 4: a job. I think if like something you're passionate about
Speaker 4: starts becoming a job, you just you lose.
Speaker 1: A little bit of that love for it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, it's just something that I'm doing on
Speaker 4: the side.
Speaker 2: I like that a little side pace. How did you
Speaker 2: learn how to talk dirty?
Speaker 3: This is a great question for me.
Speaker 4: I can get really deep on this because, look, I
Speaker 4: think a big part of it comes from the fact that,
Speaker 4: you know, like my like growing up in suburban kind
Speaker 4: of you know, Australia. You know, I was very much
Speaker 4: surrounded by and raised by that toxic you know, Australian masculinity,
Speaker 4: and a huge part of that is just not being
Speaker 4: able to communicate about how you feel, not being able
Speaker 4: to like communicate, you know, clearly with people about your emotions.
Speaker 4: And so to me, it really began in kind of
Speaker 4: breaking that down and learning how to actually talk about
Speaker 4: my feelings and talk about you know, my fears, like
Speaker 4: all like those deeply those deep things that I kind
Speaker 4: of you know, got into through therapy. That's where it
Speaker 4: really where it began. When I started learning how to
Speaker 4: communicate and how like when you do that clearly and
Speaker 4: concisely with people, it just takes a lot of issues
Speaker 4: off the table. And so I started, you know, when
Speaker 4: I started bringing that into sex, like it made sex better, right,
Speaker 4: like being able to clearly kind of communicate with people
Speaker 4: your desires and find out what their desires are, and
Speaker 4: being able to have those honest conversations. So I think
Speaker 4: that's where it began. And the dirty talk was just
Speaker 4: really an extension of that, like verbalizing fantasies and and
Speaker 4: and speaking them aloud and kind of pushing past that
Speaker 4: shame that so many people have around sex still. So
Speaker 4: I have to give credit to just sort of amazing
Speaker 4: women in my life as well, like I had, so
Speaker 4: there were some older women in my twenties who kind
Speaker 4: of really started introducing me to kink because they kind
Speaker 4: of saw my interest in it and helped me kind of,
Speaker 4: you know, get over that kind of initial hump of
Speaker 4: the unintended discussing and talking about as a dad joke freezer.
Speaker 3: Well, while we have you can we get just a
Speaker 3: dirty talking cheek go to people who don't want to
Speaker 3: uncover and unpack their fears and wants and needs before
Speaker 3: they use the skill. So you what's a fail safe
Speaker 3: maybe phrase or you know, formation of words that kind
Speaker 3: of does the trick more often than not.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what?
Speaker 4: I think it's just a great startup phase is do
Speaker 4: you like that?
Speaker 3: I was going to say that, you.
Speaker 4: Know, you're not even diving into the r raided stuff yet,
Speaker 4: but just clearly asking like is this something you're enjoying?
Speaker 4: I think is a great way to kind of kick
Speaker 4: off that as a dialogue, right, like, don't assume, don't
Speaker 4: sit there not knowing, like bring that out. I think
Speaker 4: once you start kind of you know, having that internal
Speaker 4: conversation the stuff, like the conversation you're having in your
Speaker 4: own head and having it with your partner, I think
Speaker 4: that starts cracking the door open to you know, getting
Speaker 4: you know, far more debaucherous.
Speaker 3: As ill talking about the dinner and back to have
Speaker 3: I'm like hungry and then so like I say, we've
Speaker 3: done the do you like that? But we're gearing up
Speaker 3: for a ninety minute session there so by fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: I have exhausted that. Do you like that? What's next?
Speaker 4: I think that's when you need to kind of like
Speaker 4: start bringing just a couple couple of like dirtier terms, right,
Speaker 4: need to be like swinging from the chandaliers with a
Speaker 4: game mask on straight away, right, Like.
Speaker 2: So when you're actually recording it, so full disclosure, I
Speaker 2: have to be honest. I listened to it because I
Speaker 2: thought I can't come in here without listening to it.
Speaker 1: You have a journalistic integrity.
Speaker 2: I do such, and I've got a lot of spare time.
Speaker 2: And you know, we were actually put onto you by
Speaker 2: a woman called Jess who sent me an email about you,
Speaker 2: and she said it was one of her first experiences
Speaker 2: with audio porn and that she had a great time.
Speaker 2: And when I was listening to it, I was just
Speaker 2: thinking to myself at times, like what are you doing
Speaker 2: yourself when you're making this? Are you sitting in a
Speaker 2: room Like obviously the microphone and stuff, the quality's got
Speaker 2: to be good, so how do you set that up?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Like ninety percent of the time, I am actually like
Speaker 4: indulging in the actual fantasy myself as well, And I
Speaker 4: think that's part of the reason that it appeals to people.
Speaker 1: It's because, like.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, so much of pawn is performative, right,
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of us can see through
Speaker 4: that now, Like so, I never want what I'm actually
Speaker 4: creating to be performative. So that's why, like I don't
Speaker 4: think I could do it as a job, right because
Speaker 4: like I can't. I can't just like get up and
Speaker 4: be like, oh, I've got to do an audio today
Speaker 4: and just like belt it out, like I have to
Speaker 4: be in the mood. I have to be inspired, so
Speaker 4: and I always want to be honest to that. Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 4: I try to not be performative at all. There's some
Speaker 4: out there that I definitely are there be more organized
Speaker 4: and have to be a bit more structured about Like
Speaker 4: I did a Choose your Own Adventure one which was
Speaker 4: like like like four or five hours of recording. Like
Speaker 4: I have a like a pell mic, so I'll just
Speaker 4: like you know, attached to the pel mic to my
Speaker 4: phone and no I can kind of go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Fun cool. Okay, Well, thanks for chatting to us A
Speaker 2: and our daddy. This was so good. I feel like
Speaker 2: I've learned a lot. And maybe we will try some dirty.
Speaker 4: Talk flex that sounds fantastic. Look and in honor of
Speaker 4: both of you, I will I'm going to be releasing
Speaker 4: a crock themed audio in the next in the next.
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks. Are you serious, stay stay tuned, stay
Speaker 1: tuned for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course that's putty behavior.
Speaker 4: How can I talk to flex and and and not
Speaker 4: duge your crop fetish?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, amazing. And you got to say go
Speaker 2: through me, go through me to worry. You don't have
Speaker 2: to do that, dude's scripting.
Speaker 3: We can go lab.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Rick.
Speaker 2: We will see you. I guess we'll hear you soon.
Speaker 4: Well, indeed, thank you, FLS.
Speaker 1: Thank you for you're listening to Flex and Frooms Okada.
Speaker 3: I have been waiting for the moment for at least
Speaker 3: the past three days. I've been binging the whole season
Speaker 3: or seasons of True Blood. There are seven seasons. I'm
Speaker 3: watching it now on binge. True Blood is a fictional
Speaker 3: quote unquote because we won't deny the existence of vampires,
Speaker 3: but a fictional book that was turned into a TV
Speaker 3: series years and years ago. It's not new. I think
Speaker 3: it came out in like twenty twelve maybe, but it's
Speaker 3: about this girl, Suki Stackhouse, who lives in this small
Speaker 3: Louisiana Suki Suki like Suki s Uk thinking Suki Waterhouse.
Speaker 3: I'm talking Suki like big cry baby.
Speaker 2: Oh Suki yep, Suki Suki got it and he was
Speaker 2: helping me out.
Speaker 3: I'm talking Suki Suki Suki Stackhouse like me so Suki
Speaker 3: babyy Suki stack House. She lives in this Louisiana small
Speaker 3: rinky dink town. But in this reality it's based in
Speaker 3: our world, there are vampires, and vampires are known. They're
Speaker 3: kind of like the stain on society. They're trying their
Speaker 3: very hardest to integrate and be seen as equals, but
Speaker 3: people are not happy. They're fearful of them. They don't
Speaker 3: understand how they're meant to integrate with vampires because humans
Speaker 3: are vampires natural prey and as a I guess, as
Speaker 3: a technique to give humans the illusion that vampires will
Speaker 3: not drink their blood for sustenance, the Vampire Corporation, the
Speaker 3: Vampire Regulation made this drink called true blood, which is
Speaker 3: like synthesized blood that vampires can drink instead of drinking
Speaker 3: human blood. So they're like, look, we don't even need
Speaker 3: to drink you guys anymore. We have this blood. The
Speaker 3: point is the show I wouldn't even recommend it, like
Speaker 3: I would not recommend it unless you love vampires, because honestly,
Speaker 3: the acting after season four and it's still kind of shoddy. Like, look,
Speaker 3: it feels like the kind of show that was in
Speaker 3: like the depths of cable TV. But anyway, the acting
Speaker 3: is so bad, but the storylines are so and the
Speaker 3: world building is amazing, and I think it's super awesome
Speaker 3: how someone's managed to create a whole fictional series with
Speaker 3: real almost like reflecting like current human problems, but in
Speaker 3: the context of humans and vampires, like thinking about like genocide, eugenics,
Speaker 3: social norms, social hierarchies, how everybody is progressive until they
Speaker 3: feel as that they need to give up some of
Speaker 3: their creature comforts to allow the lesser or the minority
Speaker 3: to share that space. It's pretty fantastic. But what I've
Speaker 3: been thinking about the most is how can I invest
Speaker 3: so much time to something that I knowingly think is
Speaker 3: not that good, Like I'm like, something about this is
Speaker 3: so off, Like I watched it and I'm like it's
Speaker 3: giving me a little bit of like a tinge, Like
Speaker 3: my left eye is squinting because I'm like, why why
Speaker 3: didn't we reshoot that scene? Do you think she really
Speaker 3: nailed that. Some of the scenes, the main actress, Anna
Speaker 3: Paquin is crying, but I'm like, babes, your brows have
Speaker 3: not even furrowed, Like, what is going on? Why do
Speaker 3: you have no forehead? Friends while you're wailing? Anyway, everone watch.
Speaker 1: True Blood le you think about it, this is flex
Speaker 1: and frooms on KEDA.
Speaker 3: Guess what I have some bad news and some good news.
Speaker 3: The good news is I was doing some research. I
Speaker 3: was trying to figure out the biological, physiological reason why
Speaker 3: we get annoyed. Did I find out why? Kind of yes, not.
Speaker 3: The Internet told me annoyance is one of the most
Speaker 3: widely experienced human emotions, but the least studied. We don't
Speaker 3: know why we feel annoyance. What is that every day
Speaker 3: you keep digging in the ocean, you keep getting telescopes
Speaker 3: to go to space, and you can't figure out why
Speaker 3: almost eight billion people feel annoyed?
Speaker 2: Wait, is there only eight billion people in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a lot of pus, like eight billion people in China.
Speaker 2: Huh two one billion in China. Yeah, pardon me, pardon me.
Speaker 3: Very frustrating. And then I was like, okay, so what
Speaker 3: is annoyance then? Like if we have to isolate it
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I'm gonna figure it out myself. If
Speaker 3: the scientists won't do it, I will just literally. So
Speaker 3: then I came across this thing that psychologists use called
Speaker 3: the emotion wheel, and it is basically like a pie
Speaker 3: chart that's segmented into all these little tiny sections, and
Speaker 3: it seeks to explain to us how our emotions can
Speaker 3: be described in a very simple way, and then if
Speaker 3: we unpack it a little bit further, what are offshoots
Speaker 3: of said emotion. And so, for example, if happiness is
Speaker 3: an emotion that people say they feel like, I feel happy,
Speaker 3: if you unpack that further, you could be saying that
Speaker 3: you know, you feel cared for, or you feel grateful,
Speaker 3: or you feel excited, but you don't necessarily have the
Speaker 3: vocabulary to express it that far, so you just go
Speaker 3: with I'm happy. Maybe you would say I am scared,
Speaker 3: but in reality you just feel a bit anxious or
Speaker 3: confused or overwhelmed or powerless. In this instance, they say
Speaker 3: that anger or annoyance is just low level anger. It's
Speaker 3: in the same family. If it was more amplified, it
Speaker 3: would be full on, like I'm so pissed off but
Speaker 3: really it's just low level that isn't enough for me, though,
Speaker 3: I need to understand if I'm talking however, bajillion years ago,
Speaker 3: it's me and the dinosaurs m cave hormen picking berries.
Speaker 3: In what world am I feeling annoyed? Why?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I'm gonna have to do some outreach myself,
Speaker 3: find some you know, UOW University's UW, I don't know
Speaker 3: what do you call these universities? University of Western Sydney,
Speaker 3: University of Woollongong. Let me get a university in Brisbane.
Speaker 3: Let's yes, let's do our own research. I need to
Speaker 3: figure out this year.
Speaker 2: Max, I reckon if we tried, if we were like
Speaker 2: we're doing to call out, we need one university to
Speaker 2: work with us on this study. Yeah, will promote your
Speaker 2: university if you do it with us, they'd be actually
Speaker 2: snapping at our heels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A, my.
Speaker 2: Tea can't stop calling me about some other stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh call me redirect your energy, call that by name.
Speaker 3: But this is the thing, right, So when I was
Speaker 3: doing research, we can figure out what annoys us, we
Speaker 3: can't figure out why it annoys us. We need to
Speaker 3: figure out that out today, dreaming, for example, the signists like,
Speaker 3: we don't know why we dream, babes, I already know this.
Speaker 3: I've explained to you. Every time you go to bed
Speaker 3: and do dreams, you're living an alternate reality that's just
Speaker 3: as important as this one, but we don't have the
Speaker 3: brain capacity to unlock it fully. You've seen that movie
Speaker 3: with Bradley Cooper, No Limitless.
Speaker 2: What's you with all the movie references today?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: But I totally agree, and I think, why do we
Speaker 2: think that dreams are any less important than life? Because
Speaker 2: life ends anyway? Oh wait, you lost me.
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