1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main Dowin 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Homes on Stuart Highway, Beerrima. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: If you're listening to the show yesterday you would have 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: heard us catch up with bushfires and Sir Andrew Turner 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: around Territory day. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what he had to say. 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: I've got a. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 4: Personal view, Katie, and that is that there are other 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 4: parts of the year that might be better suited to it. 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 4: The fire danger period, which was declared last week and 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: goes for about four or five months, dictates that you 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 4: require a permit to burn it any time during that period. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 4: My view is that's what you're doing when you're light 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: a fire work is potentially starting a fire. 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: When would be a better time. 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: A month ago would have been quite suitable, and probably 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 4: November a strong drying wind tend to go away. It 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: doesn't need to be in the pouring rain. It could 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: well be just the shoulder season to the dry season. 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: It's a big decision quite often see the ramification the 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: impact on our volunteer crews and our resources in the 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: days afterwards when people do unfortunately irresponse. 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: So it's a tough one and I guess that this 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: discussion around fireworks and when we should be able to 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: let them offit sort of it comes up fairly often. 26 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: We know that Territory Day had to be postponed as 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: a result of the lockdown, but should we be looking 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: at moving the date that we're allowed to let off firecrackers. 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Joining us on the line right now is the Lord 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlas. 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: Good morning, Corn, Good morning Katie. Yes, everybody talks about 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: the fire crackers and I can understand the concerns of 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: the fire services. We have fires usually, but my concern 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: with Darwes City Council is damage to our infrastructure, especially 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, safe clothes, cricket pitches and everything else and 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: the amount of rubbish we have to pick up the 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: day after. 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So for the council, I mean, do you 39 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: reckon we need to be changing the data or do 40 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: you reckon we need to be banning the use of 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: personal fireworks? 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Well regarding change of the day, doesn't matter if you 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: change a day or not, the same amount of rubbish 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: will be there the day after. Because some people are 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: very very good to take their rabbits with them. Others 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: that can't care list they just drop them there and 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: somebody else will pick them up. 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: And that's always the worry, isn't it. Connor. 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean, so taking that into account, what do you think, Look, 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: do you reckon we need to what do you think 51 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: we need to do it? 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: It's very controversial, I mean wise, we take something out 53 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: of the people as long as the people do it responsibly. 54 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: By the same time, if people don't do it responsible, 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: the government has the ability to find them, or the 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: government can actually allow them in certain areas, only not 57 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: everywhere throughout the city. We've got a situation where we 58 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: allow fireworks in the middle bitch, and that goes really 59 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: really well, no problems at all, and probably it's a 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: model we can replicate somewhere else. 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: So some restrictions you reckon all some locational changes, you. 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: Know, it's always some idiots ruin it for everybody. And 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: unfortunately with the fireworks, we already heard fireworks going off 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: at night. And of course I can understand the pet owners. 65 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: How upset can they be because a lot of dogs 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: they're getting really really we during the fire cracking. 67 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Night they do. It makes it hard, you know, the 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: dogs do go berserk. 69 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: I used to sort of think, oh, no, I'm not 70 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: a big fan of crack and height, but now that 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: my kids are a little bit older, they absolutely love it. 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: And I'm very aware that. 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of Territorians absolutely love Territory 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Day in terms of being able to let off those crackers. 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Others not so much. 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: I guess it's a tough one, but it always creates 77 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: plenty of discussion in the community. 78 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: We all love our territory, but we don't have to 79 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: it to burn it down to sew it. 80 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Con. 81 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I want to move along and just talk about about COVID. 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: We know that that lockdown last week had a big 83 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: impact in a lot of ways. Is Counsel back to 84 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: normal operations. 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: We are back to normal. Our labraries are open, our 86 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: swimming pools are open. We still have to comply with 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: restrictions like wearing masks within our offices if we can't 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: be one and a half meter away from other people. 89 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: The only thing that's been impacted is actually our school 90 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: holiday activities, only part of it, like the story time, 91 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: the rime time and baby booked, because you can't deliver 92 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: these services when you wearing masks. So we encourage everybody 93 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: who wants to hear story time to go by Facebook 94 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: to our services and you can actually switch in on, 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: switch on your computer and join the activities. But all 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: the other holiday activities continue to be to be done 97 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: properly considering the requirements and the restrictions righto. 98 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: So everything else is still underway. But some of those 99 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: school holiday things, it's I mean, it is hard. I 100 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: guess a lot of different locations. Are a lot of 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: different places around the top end who did have school 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: holiday programs and events planned have had to change the 103 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: way that they're doing things. 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: I have to say. On Saturday morning, I went to 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: all of my libraries here in town. I was started 106 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: from Casina, went to Coroama, went Tonight Cliff and down 107 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: to the city center. The libraries were full of people 108 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: other borrowing books, boring DVDs, doing something. So there's still 109 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: a lot of things to do. Even if you can't 110 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: do everything wearing your mask, keeping social distancing, there are 111 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: plenty that the council can offer you. Council is open 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: for business and will provide all the services as normal 113 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: under the restruction hi Con. 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: One of the other things that is set to well, 115 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: it's being reviewed as I understand it. At this point 116 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: in time, it's the Palmerston are those boundary changes, So 117 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: not just for Palmerston. I know that there's also the 118 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: boundary changes in the Lichfield area as well. It doesn't 119 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: impact the Down City Council in any way and the 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: boundaries of the Down City. 121 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: Council well do Owen City Council and City Council are 122 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: not happy with the process because there was no process. 123 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: We will promise an open, transparent process and competitive process 124 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: to actually allocate the Northwest to one of the three 125 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: local governments. Unfortunately, the government decided to talk only to 126 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Palmerston and progress this discussion with Palmerston that despite the 127 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: fact that people had not been asked about it, there 128 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: was no public consultation. I understand the developer of North 129 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: Kreest was very keen for Darwin to actually take over. 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: They even made an offer to the City of Darwin 131 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: for a block of land to start a depot there. 132 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: The City of Darwin and I understand that Lichfield is 133 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: right into the government expressing there the appointment and their 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: concern and they're asking for a proper process and open, 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: a transparent process to take place before a decision is made. Look, 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: we haven't got any problem given to Palmerston. But our 137 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: problem is the lack of process. If you promise that 138 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: you're going to be a process, you have to follow it. 139 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: You cannot just keep quiet and then announced out of 140 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: the blue the particular piece of land will go to 141 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: a particular council. Even if it went to Lichfield, we 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: will have exactly the same argument. And I think if 143 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: it came to Darwin, I think it would be very 144 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: very proper for a process to be followed. Lack of 145 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: process creates problems for the process as you promised, and 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: everybody will be there. 147 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: So where is this all lash at this point in time? 148 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: And when is the decision expected to be made on 149 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: those boundaries? 150 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: Well, the problem we've got as local government in general 151 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: here the territory is decisions are made without consultation with 152 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: the local government, and always it tends out to be 153 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: a bad decision. We've seen it in other areas and 154 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: I think we'll see it again. Decisions looks like it's 155 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: already been made. But how can you make a decision 156 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: when you promise one thing and deliver them? 157 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: So what do you mean? 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: So how do you mean that it looks like it's 159 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: already been made as they already have. They already come 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: out and said that it is definitely happening. 161 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: My understanding is that the government has decided that the 162 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: North Press will go to Palmerston, and as to you, before, 163 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: the local residents had not been consulted. People were There 164 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: was a believer campaign door knocking in the north West 165 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: area and a lot of people express surprise why they're 166 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: going to Palmerston. They would love to stay with this 167 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: of Darwin. Some of them said they bought land there 168 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: because under the understanding they will be part of the 169 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: city of Darwin. To be again, it's not the outcome, 170 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: it's the process all the lack of it that concerned 171 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: the local government. 172 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Con Who does this fall under which minister's portfolio? 173 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: I believe it's the Minister for Infrastructure. But again it's 174 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: not the minister's fault. This is the government decision. You 175 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: can't blame one minister orly. It has to be a 176 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: government decision. Now there are too many ministers involved, so 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to name any minister in particular. What 178 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying is, as a Lord Mayor of Darwin, guys, 179 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: do the process properly, follow the process they will be 180 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: quite happy with the outcome. Pan do it properly and 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: open and transparent. 182 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: Well, no, I was more asking because we might see 183 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: if we can get somebody on about it, So a 184 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: little bit later in the week and see what we 185 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: can sassy out. But Conn, we are going to have 186 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: to leave it there. Good to catch up with you 187 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: this morning. Thanks so much for your time. 188 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Talk to you later, Katie. 189 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 190 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: That's convat Scolars there, the Lord Mayor of Darwin, and 191 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: it's probably timely for us to try and have the 192 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: Infrastructure Minister Evil all Aer on the show anyway. I'm 193 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: keen to find out what the plans are from the 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: government in terms of the waterfront develop ment as well. 195 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: Down there where we were expecting Lambridge to build the 196 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: luxury hotel. We know that that's no longer going ahead, 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: so we might see if we can get the Minister 198 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: for Infrastructure on the show a bit later in the 199 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: week to talk about those few issues.