WEBVTT - Am I Enough Yet? Uncut with Layne Beachley 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.280 Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.720 Australia and their connections to land. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:08.600 Sea and community. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.760 We pay our respect to their elders past and present 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.960 and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.120 islander peoples today. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.599 This episode is recorded on Gaddigal Land of the Aurora Nation. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:39.879 Hi guys and I. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.720 Welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.199 and I'm not pretty. I'm producing a feeling interbriate. You 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.559 really jumped in there quick. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.760 Didn't you see that You're about to say something? 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.600 I was like, And Brittany's not here, but don't worry, 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.640 Producer Geisha is here to the rescue. No britt Look, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.800 she's got a few things happening at the moment. She's 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.840 we're not currently able to record and so we are 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.520 very very lucky to have the fabulous, wonderful, beautiful producer 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.640 Keisha sitting in to talk to you all today about 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:10.520 Tommy Lee's dick. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.640 Can't wait to talk about Tommy Lee's pain. And also 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.280 I realized this morning that you and I we've worked 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.920 together for like a year and a half now this 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.440 is our first like one on one, this is our 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.720 first time recording together, just the two of us. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.760 Also, I don't know why when you said that before 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.800 you were like, this feels really intimate, it's our first time. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.080 I was like, this has got weird connotations that I 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.759 don't think you should be saying to your work colleague. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.920 And we don't have a HR here because we're still 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.920 recording it. If we had an age, none of us 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.720 would have jobs. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:40.959 No. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.399 But also speaking of. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.240 Which, I am wondering what is going on on your 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.680 neck there, because Laura ben that, if I'm not. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.240 Mistaken, is a huge hickey. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.600 I know that you and Matthew Johnson went to a 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.640 wedding on the weekend, so I'm starting I think that 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.880 things was successful at the wedding and there was a 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.920 celebration of love. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.560 As if this thirty six year old woman mother to 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.440 two has a hicky on her neck. Please, the people 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.240 have been listening to this podcast long enough. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.600 Okay, I'm gonna describe what is on Laura's net because 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.160 obviously this is for all right, We'll check this on socials. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.920 About two centimeters quite a deep purple, almost looks like 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.239 a kind of scratch like Master really got his teeth 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:26.440 into It. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.919 Doesn't look as bad on video as what it does 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.880 in real life. No, the only fun Actually that's a lie. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.360 We did have sex on the weekend. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.200 Congratulations, thank you, thank you everyone. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.799 I have a minutes in heaven. Yeah. It was slightly, No. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.519 It was. It was very drunk. It was after the wedding. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.960 It was wrong. Sex is fun if you're in a relationship, though, Yeah, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:49.880 it was. We want to get to the fun of 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:50.320 the round. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.280 It was because I had said to Matt. I was like, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:53.720 let's go home and have sex, and he was like, no, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.200 I'm too drunk. And then I was like, let's do 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.880 it anyway, and he was like, no way, it's not happening. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.919 He was like, wow, I really didn't expect that tonight. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:06.000 Yeah, that's and now you're here being like it was 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.600 all right, I mean it. He warned you sometimes when 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.280 they've had a lot to drink, it's not as funny. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.480 Nobody was. No, No, it was exceptional. It was just unexpected. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.720 That should be better. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.040 Yes, it was great, but I would just like to 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.440 go back to the hickey situation. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.640 It's not a hickey. It is a burn from a 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.240 curling ond that's what this is. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.000 You know, I think that that's exactly what my friends 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:31.640 and I all used to tell our mums when we 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.440 were about seventeen as well. So it's a convenient little 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.880 excuse there that. Oh no, I just I dropped my 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.560 straight now on my neck by accident and all of 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.080 a sudden purple. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.120 I'm sorry, Are you trying to downplay my third degree burn? 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.000 Is this what's happening here? Let's just stop talking about 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.920 my potential Kiki also my sex life, love life. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.120 We can we're. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.000 Getting that is the foundation that this entire podcast is 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:54.640 built off of. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.680 That is true, but we have something far more exciting 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.560 to talk about than my sex life. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.560 I don't know if there's anything that exists that is exciting? 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.200 Pretty do you tell me? 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:12.000 Missionary position that is seven minutes, thank you, producing, Keisha? Okay, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.560 that is, and we announced it on Instagram last week. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.719 We talked about it on last week's episode. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.080 But we're doing our live show. Actually it's Britty. She's 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.800 going to be there produced. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.600 Keisha will think I'm going to be there too, right, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.200 you will definitely be there. I mean we haven't discussed 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.440 will you be on stage? Will you be backstage. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.479 I don't mind, just as long as I can be 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:31.760 a part of it. You're like, do I have to 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.240 buy tickets? Do I have to buy a ticket. We're 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.440 doing a live show, baby, we. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.080 Are doing our very first live show. It is on 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.240 in Sydney. It's at the City Recital Hall. We are 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.080 so sorry to everybody who is not in Sydney. We 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.200 understand that that's monumentally annoying if you're not here and 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.640 not able to come. But the reason why we're doing 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.960 just one show to trial it, to test it out, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.279 is because maybe if it does well and we don't 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.680 absolutely suck, we will roll it out next year. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.960 Just dip in the little tip of the toe and 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.680 just put it in, just just the tip. There's a 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.760 lot of sexual in New windows Que early on in 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.760 this podcast, which I'm assuming is exactly what the live 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.960 show is going to entail of as well. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.720 But we have at the moment completely sold out the 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.360 bottom floor of the City Recital Hall. That's like eight 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.400 hundred tickets already sold out. There's two more levels which 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.560 there are seats still available, but not many. I think 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.280 there's like only two hundred or maybe two hundred and 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.880 fifty tickets left. So once they are sold out, which 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.880 they absolutely will be this week, that'll be a sold 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.880 out show and then you won't be had to buy 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.880 a ticket. That's pretty exciting, Just like this little side note. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.479 That's pretty fucking cool. I was telling my family about 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.040 it this week. I was like, yeah, like, we're going 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.400 to do a live show, and they didn't quite understand 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.880 what that was. They were like, oh, the live radio 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.360 recording and I was like, no. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.680 I don't know. We do one of those every week. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.400 I was like, we're going to get up and stand 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.039 in front of people and talk about stuff, you know, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.799 probably our sex life. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.320 One thy two hundred of them, and are we going 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.039 to talk about for the other fifty three minutes? 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.839 Matt's brother, So Matt's brother. His name's David. Also single. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.040 If anyone is looking for a very handsome man in 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.480 rock Hampton, excuse me, you work with Brittany and I. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.880 How have you not ever mentioned this? It's true? Oh 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.200 you know, don't shit where you eat? 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.680 Oh you don't think we're up to the standard of 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:23.600 the Johnson Fair. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.760 No no, no, no, he's hot though, Yeah, reckon, you guys, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.920 get a little interesting. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.000 A few single people coming to the wedding. Very nice. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.360 Tell Brittany to keep a pause off. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.800 What I was going to say is that when I 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.159 explained to him what the live show was, he stood 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.599 there and went, oh, that's fucking frightening, And I was like, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.839 I know, I'm well aware. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:47.520 So yeah. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.120 Look, you know some people say faked to you make it, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.320 but I'm all about authenticity. I'm so excited and I'm 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.640 equally very scared. It's going to be amazing. Come buy tickets. Well, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.400 let's do this together. There'll be lots of audience involvement. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.920 We've got some amazing guests already lined up. We've got 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.120 some very fun music happening. All that's very secretive, but 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:09.800 please don't miss out on buying a ticket. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.520 Where can you buy tickets? You can buy tickets. Thank 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.440 you so much for asking produce, because you know it's funny. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.760 As the producer of your entire podcast, you would think 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.320 that I would know exactly what the answer to that was, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.440 and you would think that that question was a little 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:26.800 rhetorical or maybe rehearsed. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.400 It's not. I actually do is it ticket tech? 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.280 Like, I know you know you're coming, but you haven't 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.239 even looked to see where you buy the tickets from. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.560 I didn't think I would need to purchase one, but 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.480 if I were to, which maybe after this conversation, I 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:42.040 will have to. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.320 Is it this wipe up on Instagram? Buy or BUYO 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:46.440 life on cut Pop. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.200 You could go onto my website, which we do also have. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.760 This is news to you, isn't it. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.880 No, No, I do update the website every week, so 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.880 I'm across the website, but I didn't know that we'd 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:55.760 put the tickets on there. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.239 But it's good to find. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.680 Let us tell you what today's episode is about. Go 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.960 buy tickets like put pause us now go do that? 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:03.480 Come back. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.360 Today's episode we are interviewing Lane Beachley. Now Lane Beachley, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.560 if you haven't heard of who she is. She is 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.240 one of the greatest surfing legends of all time, a 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.440 seven time World surfing champion. But there is so much 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.520 more than just being a surfing champion. Lane's childhood is 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.240 something that played a hugely profound role and impact in 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.240 her life and the reason why she had such a 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.080 drive to be successful, and part of that is because 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.360 she was adopted into the Beachley family. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:31.880 When she was born. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.800 Now we're going to get into the full story, but 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.880 the reason why Lane was adopted into the Beachley family 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.440 was because she was conceived through assault. And it is 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.320 truly a story where I think you sit back and 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.280 your question like, what would you do if you're in 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:48.040 that situation? 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.120 And also I think something even more interesting about Lane's 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.640 stories that like, we look at surfing today and she 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.960 was she came through earlier generation, a generation ago when 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.600 women surfing in particular was not what it is today. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:02.760 It was completely. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.720 Underfunded, it was really undersupported, and she was kind of 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.760 a pioneer of women's surfing. So her story of how 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.680 she got to the success that she is, it's just 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.319 it's phenomenal and I think she's an incredible woman. Also, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.959 her love life has been very interesting and quite spicy, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.040 and she is currently married to one of the members 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.079 of the founding members of In Excess. His name is 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.680 Kirk Pengilly. They got married eighteen years ago. Their love 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.160 story is remarkable, and yeah, I think you're really going 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:31.480 to enjoy this episode. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.000 But first, now, before we get into the deep and 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.800 moving and quite beautiful part of the episode, let's talk 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.880 about something that wasn't so moving but was extremely alarming 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.360 Tommy Lee and the dick pic that he posted to 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.400 Instagram on Thursday night, well, Thursday night our time, I 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:48.760 think it was. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.080 Early in the morning in the States. So for anyone 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.240 who is in a work can I just. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.000 Set this first. I did not see this on Instagram. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.959 I didn't get on there and see the unsolicited dig pic. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.800 I got sent it by producer Keisha, So not only 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.959 did everyone else get it, was like. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.360 Forced upon me through other channels. Excuse me. It is 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.240 my job to find content for. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.680 The podcast, Like I resent it to our podcast group 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.640 and I was like, whoa, guys, this is wild. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.080 By the time I send it to you, it had 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.560 already been up for two hours. 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.640 No content, warning, no nothing, just a penis in my inbox. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.040 It's been a long time since I've just had a 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:23.880 penis in my inbox. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.280 So for anyone who missed it, and frankly, I don't 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.840 know how you did, because it was it was genuinely 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.880 everywhere Thursday evening our time. Tommy Lee, who is the 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.200 fifty nine year old American musician. He is a part 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.200 of the Motley Crue band and he's really known for 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.720 the sex tape that was made with his then wife 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:51.200 Pamela Anderson. He posted a full frontal selfie in the 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.199 nude if you. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.080 Haven't seen it. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.360 I had conflicting feelings about how we were going to 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.679 navigate this part of the recording. I was like, do 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.000 I encourage people to go on Google it? But I 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.360 guess the thing is he willingly posted it, so like totally, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.480 he's like consenting for you all to go and see it. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.760 It's not like his it's not like his eyecloud got 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.400 hacked and these photos have been put out there without 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.120 his you know will, or without like against his will. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.679 And that's why he didn't have a problem screenshoining it 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.599 and sending it totally. Because if this was like a 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.800 leaked photo, I would feel very, very very conflicted about 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.280 talking about it and about encouraging that kind of do 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.680 you know what I mean? There's such a difference because 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.240 he's the one who actually posted it. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.199 Well, I guess just on what you said, Like if 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.240 it was ELITD photo, I honestly think that when it's 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.360 a leaked photo, talking about it actually is more problematic 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.760 than letting it go under the radar because it encourages 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.720 more people to go and google what the fuck is 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.000 that that they're talking about. Whereas in this instance it 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.160 was willingly posted Go Google, it is still very much 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.080 on the internet. You can see exactly what it is 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.240 that we're talking about. But for anybody who doesn't want 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.719 to see it in all its glory, I'll describe it 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:55.400 to you a little bit. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.360 He's sitting on the side of the bath. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.079 He's taken a selfie which has no head, no and 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:06.040 it is from just his torso his nipples, his completely 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:11.079 well shaven penis well maintained, and his schlong because that's what. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.079 You'd have to call it. It's very big. It's just 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.040 dangling into the bath like slong and away. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.640 And I let me tell you, I saw it and 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.679 I didn't know how to feel, because I did at 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.880 the start, I was like, Oh, that's pretty funny. And 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.199 then as a mom, I was like, there are children 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.120 on Instagram. Someone think of the children. And then I 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.160 started to consider more of the conversation around what is 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.080 censored on Instagram. First, what is okay to post? And 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.760 now obviously this picture was absolutely not okay to post. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.720 But the thing and the question and the conversation that 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.200 has arisen is the fact that it did stay online 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:47.640 for six hours. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.720 Yes, Look, I think. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.520 There are a couple of different ways that you can 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.600 look at this, and if I'm being completely transparent, the 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.880 very first way that I looked at it was whoa, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.000 and I laughed because I thought it was pretty fucking wild. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.840 But I also kind of thought it was a bit funny. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.480 The photo was filtered, it. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:07.600 Was captioned oops. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.080 I was like, oh, honey, this is a really desperate 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.800 way to remain relevant. But congrats to you, because you 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.280 know what, it fucking worked, and what's in his bio 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:20.800 is order my new album. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.400 The album came out in twenty twenty. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.319 And if that is a successful publicity stunt to get 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.960 eyes on your page, you have succeeded Tommy Lee. Now 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.480 this is not to say I am very aware of 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.479 how problematic of a person. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:34.800 Tommy Lee is. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.559 I got some some stats about Like I already had 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.200 this idea in my head. I was like, I know 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:41.839 that he's a bit of a trouble person and has 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.800 a pretty checkered background. But just to give a little 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.920 bit of context, in nineteen ninety eight, he said six 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.200 months in a county jail pleading no contest to kicking 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.880 Pamela Anderson while she was holding their son Dylan. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:52.800 He's been in. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:57.040 Trouble for swastika tattoos, instigating riots, racist comments, and assault. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.480 Like this guy, he's not a moral citizen. He's not 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:00.800 someone that I look up too. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.520 And I would even go to say that I don't 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.520 even think many of the one point five million people 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.040 who follow him on Instagram are following him because they 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.680 think he's an inspirational person. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.680 Well, I guess the other part of this, like, look 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.240 before we unpack the reasons why, obviously it's problematic and 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.760 kind of the nuanced parts around this whole conversation, it 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.360 is very obvious that Tommy Lee does not give a fuck, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.880 Like that is why he posted the photo. He doesn't 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.680 care about Instagram's censorship. He doesn't care about what impact 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.720 it has on you. He doesn't care whether you consented 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:29.600 to a photo of his. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.120 Dick or not. He doesn't care. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.600 So us talking about like the why or the psyche 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.600 behind what compelled him to post this is pretty irrelevant. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.000 But I do think the thing that was very interesting 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.200 is and I'm part of this, so are you, Keisha, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.240 Like we saw that photo and our very first initial 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.000 reaction was to laugh, right, and then we were like, okay, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.560 that's a bit uncool. Very recently, Britney Spears was also 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.840 posting photos of herself where she was actively nude but 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.720 covering her private parts with her hands. And my initial reaction, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.360 and I would go as far as to say, as 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.160 most people's initial reaction wasn't that's fucking funny. It was 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.040 maybe there's something wrong, Maybe she's going through something that. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.560 Is really interesting for me. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.920 When I saw those photos of Britney Spears, a big 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:19.880 part of me, a big part of me at the 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.200 time thought, I get this because you have been so 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.200 controlled for so long, and right now this is a 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.360 middle finger to the men, like this is a kind 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.440 of like now I can do whatever I want. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.120 However, you are completely right. The amount of. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.200 Conversations about like, oh my god, she's not well, like 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.040 she's costing, you know, she's not okay. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.040 And I think about this now and I think about 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.920 my own bias to it, and I'm like, you know, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.400 and obviously the whole Free Britney movement is a very 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.400 separate conversation. Everyone is like entirely stoked that she's not 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.520 under conservativeship because that was royally fucked. But I think 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.560 about my own bias and why was my bias? Like 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.880 is she okay? Verse when a man does it? I thought, 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.640 and I think a lot of other people thought that's funny. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.040 So why is male nudity funny? And female nudity is 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.960 something else that needs to be unpacked in moreover, like psychologically, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.880 what's wrong with that person? 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:08.720 Why would they do that? 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.400 And I think it goes to show that there is 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.720 just two very different sets of standards when it comes 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.040 to the way that we perceive nudity. But it also 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.600 comes back to that whole notion about why are women's 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.560 nipples sensored but not men's when ours has a functional 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.440 purpose and there's literally there for no reason at all. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.800 They have a bit of an evolutionary hangover. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.120 Well, And I mean, as we have said, there are 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.560 multiple layers to this, and most of the outrage that 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.920 I saw was about the fact that they saw a 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840 penis when they didn't want to, which is fair enough. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.200 Like I said, it's been a long time since I've 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.280 been sent an unsolicited dig pic, like long time really? Well, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.680 I mean, no, I'm not single, you are. When's the 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:47.760 last time you got one? 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.880 Unsolicited. When was the last time you got one at all? 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.320 The last time they got one was much more recently, 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.160 but unsolicit. It's been a while since I got one 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:03.160 unsolicited entirely. I think the other ones I received were encouraged. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.400 But look, I mean, on top of that, in terms 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.560 of this gender conversation about what isn't isn't okay on Instagram, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.600 I actually personally have a friend who's a sex worker 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.280 and she's had I think upwards of three accounts completely 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.240 removed before because she was found to violate the nudity's 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.240 standards and in none of the photos that were actually 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.840 the reason that they were taking her accounts were taken down. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.520 Was she actually nude? 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.080 So what was she showing in these photos to have 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.600 the accounts taken down? Or was it more the conversation 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.080 that was taking place. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.480 Look, I'm not sure, I'm not Instagram, but the photos 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.320 were raunchy, but she was not nude, So it kind 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.639 of go It starts to make me question, Okay, so 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:46.280 what's the difference between her posting photos that are almost nudes. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:47.160 Super hot photos? 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.320 She looked great and it's her business that she's a 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.800 sex worker, so she was promoting her business as a 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.439 lot of us still on Instagram, Right, what's the difference 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.840 between that and Tommy Lee? And the only thing I 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.680 could think of was, Tommy Lee has a blue tick, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.040 is a verified account? 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.360 Yes, And this was the big cause of outrage, right, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.520 the fact that this dick pic stayed online for six hours. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.320 It was still on Instagram's platform six hours after it 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.919 was posted. Now something that I haven't seen come up 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.119 too much in conversation around this, because I know a 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.640 lot of people are talking about this dickpic, but it 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.200 has to do with verification. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.359 So some of you might remember. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.520 But back in twenty fourteen, Rihanna had her entire account 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.640 removed because she posted a photo which was her top, 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.919 like you could see parts of her nipple, and it 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.479 was a cover photo that she had done for a 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.919 French magazine called lou And she posted the cover photo 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.000 and her account was taken down and suspended. Rihanna then 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.280 completely boycotted the platform because she was like, fuck this, 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.399 I don't want to be on Instagram where I'm having 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:53.120 my images, which are editorial commercial images censored. Instagram turned 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.120 around and in order to combat that, what they did 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.440 is they created a system. So part of their algorithm 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.880 is if you have a blue tick and people are 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.200 reporting you, your content is not taken down anywhere near 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.200 as quickly as somebody who's not verified. And the reason 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.240 for that is because so many people who do have 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.639 a blue tick have their content reported all the time, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.680 and so it's to stop these sort of trigger algorithms 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.000 that would allow someone's account to be taken down. 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.160 And that's kind of I mean, I'm. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.679 Not here defending Instagram because like that is not the 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.600 hill that I want to die on. But my thought 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.399 is is that's what's happened here. There has been something 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.080 in the algorithm. Obviously, millions of people would have been 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.720 reporting this image. I have no doubt that Instagram was 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.400 copying a huge amount of reports for violation of the codes. However, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.199 I think because of this weird loophole for being a celebrity, 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.240 it's not just because he was a man, but it's 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.240 because he's like a celebrity man that he was able 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.560 to get away with it for so long. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.359 Do you know what I'm And this could be a 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.120 little bit conspiracy theory of me, but remember how last 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.159 week and the week before there was all of that 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.840 shit about how Instagram had changed to be more like TikTok. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.399 The CEO of Instagram had to come out and be like, guys, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:03.399 we stuffed up. 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.760 We're going back. Kylie Jenner with someone. 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.320 Who was outspoken about how much she hated the changes, 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.840 And there were all those memes about warning Instagram to 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.119 just go back to its former glory of nice pictures 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.679 of her friends right a part of me and it 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.359 could be look, this is completely me chucking a question 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.560 into the air and going did Instagram know about this? 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.320 Sorry? Instagram is international, Oh they know. It's not like 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.200 they were asleep. They weren't all asleep. 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.199 There were people there monitoring it. And the stories that 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.320 were being shared of Tommy Lee's picture were being taken 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.639 down for nudity. So like, let's say you worked for Instagram. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:40.960 You see that and you go, okay, we need to 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:41.320 take that down. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.840 It's got nudity. Where did that come from? The whole 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.680 world right now is putting up all of these pictures 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:47.360 of this penis? 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.600 Where is it coming from? Six hours, very long time 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.399 to respond. But if you want to turn the conversation 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.080 away and back to everyone talking about this photo that 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.760 was posted on Instagram, and away from the fact that 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.479 they stuffed up this new format that tried to make 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.800 it look like TikTok. Guess what's a good way to 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.120 do that. Let it go up, Let the world talk 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:12.160 about Instagram. Let them kind of divert that conversation away 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.959 from how it's becoming this older platform that people are 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.040 not enjoying as much, and let them talk about Instagram. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.600 So instead they have an old fifty six year old 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:21.920 man posting his dick. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.200 I'm not waiting as him to do it, Okay. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.280 I think they might have seen an opportunity and gone, 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:30.440 how can this benefit us? 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.600 When did kisha petit turn into an a theory? 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.480 I'm a little bit suss on them, just because of 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.239 how much the backlash about Instagram had, and like we 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.840 all know that TikTok has started to take over from Instagram. 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:41.720 I'm a little bit it. 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.159 He'll be a bit tinfoil hat going on, but I 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.679 reckon that there could be something to it. 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.080 Okay, Well, I hours is a long time. It is 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.440 a lot media world, Yes, it's a very long time. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.120 Well, I actually did a poll because I guess when 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.840 I kind of unpacked the way that I felt about 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:57.280 this whole thing. And let me tell you, I have 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.400 spent way too much time thinking about Tommy Lee's dick pick, 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.000 like far too long, but I wanted to put a 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.280 pole out there to see how you guys were all 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.040 feeling about it. Now, there was eight more than eight 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.840 thousand people who responded to this pole, and these were 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.440 your options. I said, if you saw Tommy Lee's schlong 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.639 on install last night, did you think it was a 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.000 fucking funny Twenty one percent of you said you thought 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.560 it was fucking funny, b absolutely fucked, thirty eight percent 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.320 of you thought it was absolutely fucked, and see didn't 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.439 really care. Forty one percent of you said you didn't care, 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.280 which probably means we've been speaking about it. 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:35.480 For way too long. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.320 But the other thing I wanted to add, and I 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.280 think that this I mean just taking it away from 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.239 Tommy Lee, taking it away from the fact that it 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.159 was like we none of us consented to seeing this 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.600 dick pic. The thing that I also find very interesting 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.480 is just how much Tommy Lee's penis has been spoken 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.720 about over the years, and how much he hasn't had 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:59.120 a say in his penis being spoken about. So when 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.760 we talk about the sex tape that was released of 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.399 him and Pam that was released against their will. His 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.200 sex tape, as along with Pamela's, was released against both. 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:09.639 Of their wills. 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.280 Pamela was hugely the victim in that because of the 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.080 way that society perceived her at the time, and Tommy 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:16.520 Lee kind of came out of it as a bit 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.359 of a champion because his penis was so big. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.840 Yes, he came out notorious and she came out as 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.360 the quote unquote slut who filmed a sex tape. 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.879 But he still didn't ask for that to happen. He 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.040 still didn't want that sex tape to be released. The 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.919 second thing as well in this is that if anyone 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.800 has seen the Tommy and Pam docuseries that came out, 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.280 there is a whole segment where he is standing in 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.600 this and obviously it's an actor, but imagine if you 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.600 had a docuseries made about you against your will and 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.760 there is an actor there talking to his penis. The 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.680 shot is like a full frontal penis shot of Tommy 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.520 Lee's what's supposed to be Tommy Lee's penis. It's been 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.639 tattooed and everything to make it look exactly what Tommy 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.680 Lee's penis looked like in the sex tape, so once 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.520 again his genitals are out there for public conversation and 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:06.520 for public viewing. 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:07.480 And then I. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.440 Almost feel like this is him getting to a point 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.600 where he's like, fuck it here it is. 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:12.120 Look. 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.639 I think this conversation could be, Like, I definitely can 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.360 see what you mean about him wanting to have ownership 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.280 of his own body and or of his own body parts. 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.080 I think it could be a very different conversation if 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.199 he wasn't as proud of his dick like he was 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.560 made famous. He was already famous, but he was made 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.959 a lot more famous because of the look of his penis. 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.919 And it's been I knew before I saw this photo. 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.760 I have never seen the sex tape, I've never seen 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.280 the Pam and Tommy dockuseries. I already knew from the 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.440 pop culture space that Tommy Lee apparently has a big dick. 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.920 Yeah, I agree, but I also think, like, let's look 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.240 at this from the alternate perspective for a minute as well. 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.240 And I, like I said, I am not here defending Instagram, 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.280 nor am I here defending Tommy Lee, because I sit 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.919 on the side of thinking it was wildly inappropriate. I 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.199 have kids who absolutely do not need to see a 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.600 man's penis on Instagram. Like, I think it was pretty 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.640 fucking disgusting, but I do think it's an interesting thing 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.960 to unpack. Let me flip this for a second, just 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.159 going back to this idea of the double standards and 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.119 the way that we kind of view female nudity versus 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.359 male nudity. Imagine if her female had had a sex 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.560 tape released where her and like this has happened. You 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.680 don't need to imagine it, but like, just follow me 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.960 along here. If a woman had had a sex tape 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.960 released where her volver was front and center, then a 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.080 docu series was made where her vulver once again was 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.199 visibly front and center, and she didn't have ownership of it, 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.800 and everyone was talking about it where her volver was talking. 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.480 That's what happened in the docuseries. Tommy's penis was talking 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.399 back to him. Then a few months later, she posted 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:41.440 a photo of her. 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:42.920 Actual volver to Instagram. 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.479 Would we think it was a statement or would we 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.200 think that it was just her doing a power play 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.520 and trying to like claw back some sort of publicity. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:52.800 Would we view it differently? 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.119 I think yes, I think, and I think it's a 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.280 really interesting point that I hadn't actually thought about until 0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.520 he sat down to record this and you mentioned it, like, 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.359 I don't think that i'd actually thought about it. In 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.840 terms of if Pam were to do this, I would 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.280 think it was a statement of her being like, I'm 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:13.439 trying to get ownership of this back. I wouldn't necessarily have. 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.800 I very much agree you made me think about how 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.560 I initially thought this was pretty funny, but it wouldn't 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.960 have been my response if Pamela. I wouldn't have thought 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.560 it was hilarious. If Pam had been the one to 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:25.399 post it. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.600 Who would have ever thought that a dick pic would 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.360 be so thought provoking. This is certainly the most I've 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.240 ever thought about one in my entire life. 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.879 Well, actually, we had a lot of Facebook discussion in 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.600 the discussion group. You can join it a life on 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:38.600 Cut discussion group on Facebook. There was a lot of 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.320 conversation about this, as I'm sure you are not surprised by. 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.400 But there was one comment by one of our Facebook friends, Christiana, 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.080 and I just loved this. She said, in all fairness, 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.840 not a looking dong, a sight to behold something I'd 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.639 be proud to show off when asked politely, of course, 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.639 but not what I wanted to see while passing my 0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:01.639 morning stool, I thought, is exactly how the. 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.280 Rise the Well felt perfectly. 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.800 All right, Well, with all of that out of the way, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:11.000 let's get into our favorite part of the episode, accidentally unfiltered. 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.400 All right, I'm gonna go first. 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.760 A few years ago, I was in a shopping center 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.960 and I had to kill time before a job trial. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.239 I decided to quickly go into a swimwear store and 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.399 try on some bikinis. I picked a huge handful of 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.400 different options and went into the Chaine rooms. I saw 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.840 the sign on the door that said please keep your 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.600 underwear on when trying swimwear. But for some reason, I 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.040 decided I was going to ignore this. I felt like 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.760 I couldn't see what the bikini looked like properly with 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.040 undies on underneath. 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.560 That's fair, and that's why they have the plastic thing. 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:47.960 It's not fair. It's that is fucking rankicking. It is 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.919 not fair. This was you. You wrote this in Okay. 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.520 After I put a pair of swim bottoms on, then 0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.720 I looked at my phone and I realized the time 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.280 I was running late. I quickly put my pants on 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.600 over what I thought were my undies and walked out 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.639 of the change room and handed the retail worker the 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.399 swimmers that I didn't want. As I walked out of 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.560 the store, the security buzzer went off and I realized 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.439 I had walked out with the swimwear bottoms on and 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:18.000 I had handed the retail worker my dirty undies. I 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.760 was so embarrassed and realized I would either have to do. 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:21.440 It run up. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.320 Steal the bikini bottoms, but I felt too guilty to 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.600 do that, so I ended up having to walk back 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.280 inside the store, colect my undies off the counter directly 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.679 from in front of the woman, go back into the 0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:40.120 change room, change into my undies, and then I handed 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.640 the bikini bottoms, which I had clearly tried on without underwear, 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.240 despite the warning signs, back to the woman. 0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.560 This was the epitome of my most embarrassing moment. I 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.000 have a question, that's a wal cachet. Why didn't you 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:52.560 buy them? 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.200 I'm sorry if she knows, and you know, and everyone 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.160 knows that you have rubbed your vagina on those swimmers, 0:28:59.200 --> 0:28:59.920 they are not selling. 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.680 You need to buy those are syllable. That's why they 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:03.280 have the plastic. 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.000 I'm sorry that you cannot try undies on in a 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:09.120 shop you can't like. 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.880 The plastic sticker is just in case that you're maybe 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.200 your underwear is not thick enough. It's not for direct contact. 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.640 I mean, I very much agree what I'm thinking about 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.720 anyone else trying them on, because I don't want anyone 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:22.360 else trying on. 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.600 Zimt Imagine if you bought a perisoners that some one 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.360 had tried on in a store, and then you, with 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.600 your hands, peeled off that sticker you've touched. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.640 You just touch their vagina. I mean, without any of 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:33.160 the pleasure. 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.280 You got nothing out of it, nothing other than the 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:37.760 remnants of a good time. 0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.120 You literally just got rubbish. That's all you got out 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.760 of it. On this poor girl, I know why she 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.600 didn't buy the underwear. 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.520 Because she got to get to a job trial, because 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.760 she didn't have a job, Because. 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.480 That's why she couldn't buy the swimwear. 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.360 Okay, I also think that you have way too much 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.000 sympathy for her, and I still think you might have 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.840 written that in your chat once you're acciently unfiltered. 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.000 Okay, So I'm an emergency nurse, and because you're pretty 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.480 much always rushing around, I had this habit of when 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.840 someone asked for a vomit bag or looked like they 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.240 needed it, I would grab a bag that comes neatly 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.480 folded in its own little plastic ring, and I would 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.920 punch my hand into the opening it would open it out. 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.080 During one hectic shift, I was looking after a patient 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.480 whilst I was standing at the bedside, who said to me, 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.440 I think I need to vomit. I reached up, I 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.760 grabbed the only bag left on the shelf, and I 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:32.160 punched my hand into it. To my dismay, I quickly 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.960 realized that the bag had already been used and I 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.680 had vomit up to my elbow, as someone had already 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:45.520 vomited in the bag and neatly folded it back onto. 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.600 The shelf instead of putting it into the bin. 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.600 So she literally just punched her hand. Punched her hand 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:57.320 into liquid. It actually gets washing a bag of vomit. 0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:58.080 It gets worse. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.320 My patient still had throw up, and because there were 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:06.560 no free vomit bags, ended up throwing up into their 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.320 own hands on the bed, and so I sent the 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:15.959 next twenty minutes apologizing cleaning up my patient, wiping their 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:19.320 own vomit off of them, changing the vomit bed sheets, 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.600 and also washing my entire right up. 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.200 Can you imagine how confused that patient would have been 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.160 when she picked up a full vomit bag and put 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:35.040 down And also, I know the vomit is one of 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.640 those conversations that makes people really squeamish. But I was 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.760 once on a public train, super hungover. I went and 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.280 saw Florence in the machine and I was so hungover, 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.560 and I get motion sickness at the best of times. 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:47.120 Dude. 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.440 I was sitting on a Country Link train driving back 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.000 to Wollongong, and I felt it from the depths of hell, 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.760 and the only place there was was to vomit into 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.240 my hands. And then I just had to drop it. 0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:59.040 What were you gonna do with it? 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.160 What mean you just had to draw? I can't carry 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.000 it down. It was dripping. I couldn't carry it down 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:05.800 the carriage. I just left it. 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:07.880 I mean I didn't just leave. I had to tell 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.640 the lady that I had motion sickness. I did not 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.680 tell her that I was hungover. I felt even more embarrassed. Anyway, 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:13.520 this is not about me. 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.600 I love how both of us have written in accident 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.280 the unfiltereds today, I've been making art in my other people. 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.560 This one time I punched a bag of mom It. 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.000 Anyway, guys, on that note, let's get into the chat 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:25.960 with Lane Beachley. 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.120 Laane Beachley is a seven times world champion surfer. She 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.680 spent nineteen years of her life on tour, and she 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.080 was a pioneer for women in the sport of surfing. 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.720 She's regarded as the most successful surfer in history, and 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.400 she joins us on the podcast today. 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.840 Now, we like to start every one of these interviews 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.080 in exactly the same way. Is that we like to 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.600 start with an accidentally unfiltered story where you tell us 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.600 your most embarrassing story. 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.960 Well, the challenge for me, Laura, is not to tell 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.440 you my most embarrassing story. It is to pick which 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.360 most embarrassing story to tell you. My life has been 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.320 filled with embarrassing moments. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.800 Make sure it's the worst one like that, don't censor it. 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.280 There was one I wanted to tell you, but I'm 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.920 just so ashamed by my behavior that I just got. 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.960 I mean, that's perfect, That's exactly what we're here for. 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.760 Do you know what though it's so it's one of 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.760 those things that's so galvanizing, Like everybody has something that 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:24.680 they're so absolutely mortified by. 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.480 That they are like, I'll never ever share. 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.320 It, and that's the story that you should share because 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:30.560 it makes everyone else feel better. 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.120 Okay, I don't know how this could ever make anyone 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.400 feel better. Certainly doesn't make me feel very good about it, 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.840 but I have to get over it. So the more 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.880 I share it, the more I'll process it, the less 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.760 I'll care about it, and then it's out there in 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.960 the world. One of the most embarrassing stories that when 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.200 you ask this question, the first I always trust. The 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:46.840 first one that comes to mind was when I was 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.040 competing in Fiji many many years ago. There's about two 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:55.680 thousand and one and your two thousand, two thousand and one. Anyway, 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.440 we're at Tavarula, beautiful tropical island in the middle of 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.680 the Pacific Ocean over there in Fiji. It's one of 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.400 my favorite places to visit. The people is so warm 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:09.560 and friendly and respectful. And at the time my relationship 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.160 with my former partner go called Ken was really starting 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.480 to dissolve, and in a typical athlete tenacious form, I 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.000 just pretended that everything was okay, and even though I 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.080 knew I was behaving in ways that was not congruent 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.560 with who I am or aligned with my values. And 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.719 we decided to party one night, and the contest was 0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.600 still midway. We hadn't completed it, but let's just get 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.040 on the booze and hope for the best. And so 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.080 we were partying, and everyone had gone to bed except 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.879 for me, a lifeguard, and a couple of other None 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.040 of my competitors were still out. It was just like 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.640 one of the one of the lifeguards, one of the 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.200 people who kind of work around there, and then me, 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.880 and we decided that we were still thirsty even though 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.600 they put padlocks and chains around the fridges, and I 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.520 decided that there was a possibility we could possibly get 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.279 under that and steal a couple of drinks because we 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.359 just needed to keep going. Nothing good happens after eleven 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.360 o'clock at night, right, you don't need to drink anymore. 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:05.439 Eleven o'clock is early. 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.200 Usually people say nothing good happens after two. Eleven o'clock 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:10.840 is fair as well, nothing good happens after that. 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.239 I feel like nothing good happens after a padlock A 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:16.040 fair comment. 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.720 Nothing goods happens after a padlock has been put around 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.520 a bar and you think it's an invitation to get 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.920 in there. So I had the lifeguard lift and it 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.920 was one of those benches bench freezers fridges, and he 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:33.759 was lifting it up, straining the chain and the padlock, 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.480 and so I'm reaching in to try and get my 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.759 arm in this fine little hole between the top of 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.600 the freezer and the rim. And as I'm reaching in 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.960 to grab what really felt like a very warm beer. 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.680 As I'm reaching into, the chain breaks, the freezer hits 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.560 me in the chin. My tooth goes through my lip. 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.239 I get a fat limp, and all of it has 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:03.280 been captured on CCTV. So I then have to front 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:08.000 up and face the music the following morning. Meanwhile, before 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.439 that happens, I have to go and surf for heat. 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:14.439 The waves pop up overnight. I'm hungover, feeling very sad 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.160 and sorry for myself, with a fat lip, and incredibly 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.440 embarrassed by my behavior. Anyway, I go out, I lose 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.719 anyone surprised I lose in that heat. I come in 0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.600 and then the general manager of the tour at the 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.279 time decides to rake me over the coals and made 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.400 me watch the vision back and explain myself. 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.160 Oh, no, unnecessary. He knows what's happened. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.400 We've seen it, do you know what, though, You're just 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.760 lucky that this wasn't of the time of social media, 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.640 or that's where it would have ended up, and then 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.000 you would be reliving it all the time. 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.840 The amount of things that I've done that have not 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.520 been captured on social media is an absolute blessing in disguise. 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:56.120 There's no way that my career would have the adulation 0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.440 and respect that it has. Everything that I did that 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.680 was somewhat duplicitous or nefarious was caught on capture on 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:05.360 social media. 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.160 What I'm taking of that story, anyway, is just that 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.719 you like a challenge, Like you saw an obstacle, you 0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.280 thought there's a way to overcome this. Unfortunately it doesn't 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:13.279 always work out that way. 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.440 Solutions focused well, Lane. 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.120 We often start these interviews by asking what was your 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.480 childhood like? And I feel like for you, your childhood has 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.480 had such a profound impact on who you are as 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.440 a person, and it's such an interesting part of your story. 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.640 Could you tell us a little bit about what it 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.319 was growing up as a Beachley, but more so, how 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:33.960 you became a Beachley in the first place. 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.960 So I was adopted into a beach loving family with 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.240 the last name Beachley and became a world champion surfer. 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:40.600 How many times have you heard that? 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.200 That is so coincidental that you were adopted into the 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.040 Beachley household and you spent your whole life. 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.160 On the beach. I'm sure that's the fast I remember, right. 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.440 If only I was given a dollar for every time 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.080 I heard that, So you now owe me a dollar? 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:52.439 Okay? 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:57.200 Highyeah. And my dad was a surfer, and my brother 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.640 Jason's a surfer, and the mother whod me was not 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.600 a surfer, but love the beach. So we would just 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.560 spend every day possible at the beach. I remember being 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.480 plunked on the sand before I could walk, and I 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.360 remember falling in love with the nature and the beauty 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.319 and the freedom of the ocean and the sand and 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.840 the sun. I mean, the ocean is my happy place 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.279 and still is to this day. So I was very 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.680 fortunate to have been adopted into that beach loving family 0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.440 and then be given the opportunity to fulfill my dreams 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.040 and ambitions and set such audacious goals. But when I 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.759 was four years old, that's when I started surfing. When 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.479 I was five years old, I started surfing on the 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.439 ocean side. I actually started surfing on the harbor side. 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.239 When the fairies came in. That's when I would test 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:41.960 my balance and ride my foaming. 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.440 And this was at Manly Beach. Is that correct? 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.560 Manley Beach? Yeah, the most appropriately named beach in the world. 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.920 Nantown I call it. And yeah. And so by the 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.719 time I'm six years of age, I'm out there having 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.399 a ball. And that's when we lost Valerie. We lost 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.160 my mum, Valerie to high blood pressure. She had a 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.400 brain hemorrhage on the operating table during cosmetic surgery of 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:03.440 all bloody things. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:03.879 Wo. 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.959 So that was deeply distressing. And then that's when kids 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.400 started asking questions, why do you look so different to 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.279 your family? Where do you come from? Because all my 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.000 family are over six foot tall, they're pasty white skins, 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.360 they got brown hair, and I'm five foot well and 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.439 five five. I've got dark olive skin. I've got bright 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.239 blonde hair and bright blue eyes. So I didn't really 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.799 look very much like my family. There was very few 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.480 similarities as an eight year old. That's when dad decided 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.359 to tell me that I was adopted and he knew 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.680 nothing about my biological family at all. 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.279 How did you take that information as an eight year old? 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:37.040 At firstly I felt like the couch was swallowing me whole. 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.719 I felt so scared because I had wrapped my identity 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.560 around this story that I belonged here, this is my 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.920 family unit, this is where I've always come from. And unfortunately, 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.520 by the time you're six, your brainwaves have shifted and 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.200 instead of being a narcissist and everything's happening about you, 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.680 to you and for you, your brainwaves get to this 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.480 capacity where you can judge, criticize, analyze, and create meaning 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.359 around stories. So my dad said, you're my baby girl. 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.040 We've always loved duty of not a blood relation. I heard, 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.400 you've been abandoned by your own mother. You've been rejected 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.560 by your mother. Your own mother didn't even want you. 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.040 Therefore you are undeserving of love. That's how I took it. 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.160 So I was very scared, felt very abandoned, felt very rejected, 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.520 and instantly decided that I was now worthless. And I 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.279 thought that the only way I could become worthy or 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.600 deserving of love is that if I become a world 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.479 champion surfer. So that's literally the goal that I set 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.080 myself as an eight year old was to become a 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.160 world champion, not a surfer, just a world champion, and 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.000 I basically wrapped all my sense of self worth, my identity, 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.160 my vision of success was around unless I become a 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.520 world champion, I will never be deserving of love. 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:48.000 Did you feel resentful or angry that you didn't know earlier? 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.839 Because I feel like by eight, you really, even though 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.239 you're still so young, as you said, you have this 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.000 real understanding of your identity, of your place in the world. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.640 And also, coming off the back of your mother's death, 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.200 you've already lost a cent of identity. You're already in 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.319 this turmoil and grief to then be given another piece 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.080 of information that who you thought you were doesn't quite 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:08.640 fit into that puzzle anymore. 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:10.520 Was there resentment there? 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.719 It's a difficult thing to reflect on and anchor down 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.040 those feelings. I have no doubt there was sadness. There 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.600 must have been anger and frustration and that sense of 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:23.920 loss because I lost my sense of identity and my 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:29.640 sense of belonging, my sense of being and I don't remember. 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:34.200 I don't recall feeling resentful or having resentful is not 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.480 really an emotion that I tend to resort to. But 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.480 there was definitely anger and sadness involved, for sure. 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.000 And when was it that you found out about your 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.160 biological mum? 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.440 Was that you know in your childhood or was that 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:48.560 much later in life? 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.240 Much much later? So Dad told me when I was eight. 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.560 I then joined the pro Tool fresh out of high 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.720 school when I was seventeen, and then traveling the world 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.400 seeing what the rest of the world has was very 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:08.040 eye opening. And I often say that joining the pro 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:09.920 to a fresh out of high school gave me a 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.440 much broader education than any institution could ever give me. 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.480 But it also opens when you open cans of worms. 0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:18.960 It presents as many questions as it does answers. So 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.799 I started to seek more understanding of who am I, 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.759 Where do I come from? Why am I the way 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:28.200 that I am? Because I was constantly either being judged 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.120 or ridiculed or told that I was this way, and 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:33.960 I wanted to get an understanding of where does this 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:38.840 behavior or where do these characteristics emanate from? So I 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.800 went to the birth Deess and Marriages Registry in Sydney 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.640 and applied for my original birth certificate because in the 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:49.799 seventies it wasn't mandatory to have connection or contact. You 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:53.680 didn't have to leave your details as a biological parent 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.439 to allow you. Actually there was vetos on a lot 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.279 of kids in that stage to actually prevent them from 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:03.759 reaching out to connect with their biological families. So I 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.759 fortunately when I applied there was no contact veto and 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.759 I received my original birth certificate. So that gave me 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.480 my mother's name, my name that I was born with, 0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.279 which was Tanyamara's Gardner, and it gave me an understanding 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.040 of who she was and where she was at. So 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.480 she was born in Glasgow, she was living in Surrey Hills, 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.120 she was seventeen years of age. So we just put 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.319 a story around that that perhaps maybe she was a 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.120 backpacker or you know, who knows what happened. But that 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.600 gave me some sort of solace in understanding, Okay, this 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.279 is who I am, and this is where I've come from, 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.640 and this is why I was given up And that 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.040 helped me kind of piece it all together. And you 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:44.920 know what, that same general manager of the tour decided 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.239 to hand me because that certificate. That birth certificate came 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.880 to me while I was in South Africa preparing to compete. 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.000 Actually I was competing. It was a day that I 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.480 was competing, and he received it from my flatmate who 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.480 faxed it through and he decided I hand it to 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.719 me fifteen minutes before I paddled out, like just clueless. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.959 So he adds me and my birth certificate right before 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.359 I've paddled out, and of course it messes with my head, 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.040 and I still win because I'm able to pull myself together. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:15.400 But that was the first indication of my original identity, 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.160 and then that set the wheels in motion. 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.799 What did you do with that information? I mean, even 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.040 just knowing what your birth name was. I can't even 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.480 imagine how foreign that must have felt. What do you 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.839 do with that information? When you have a little bit 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.359 of an insight into who your birth mother is, you. 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.919 Take time to process it. That's fortunately what I did. 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.839 I mean, I'd processed it while I was in the water, 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.319 which was a massive distraction and I almost lost the heat, 0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:38.719 but I was able to get my head back in 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.120 the game. And then I came in and I spoke 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.960 to friends about it, who understood the journey that I've 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.080 been on and were willing to share in that journey, 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:50.680 and I shared some of my questions and just spoke 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.160 about it, just shared it because a problem shared is 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.239 a problem halved. And it did present quite a lot 0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:00.520 of challenges to me and understanding how important this piece 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:07.120 of information was to fulfilling my desire to get a 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.399 clearer picture of who I am and why I am there. 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.440 But the thing is that what it did teach me 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.880 is that we don't need to rely on our past 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.080 to determine our future. You know, our past is a 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.359 great reference point and we can learn a lot from it, 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.960 But we decide who we are, We decide how we 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.680 show up, how we feel, how we behave, and we 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.160 can't keep relying on the events of our past or 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:32.360 the genetic predisposition of our ancestors to predetermine how we 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.400 feel about ourselves. So in the hindsight, I realized I 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:41.839 was relying on historical references to validate who I am 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.920 today when in actual fact, the only one that gives 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.239 me permission to do that is me. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.520 Did your biological moment at the time know who you 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.480 had become and the successes that you had. 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:57.359 Gained no, and we didn't make contact first time until 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.480 nineteen ninety nineteen ninety nine reached out to me. So 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:07.040 I was twenty seven and I was about about six 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:11.680 weeks away from winning my second world title. All these 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.080 dates and numbers your following when. 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.240 You've got so many trophies time, I do remember. 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.359 Just by the years. I know, I won my first 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.799 one in nineteen ninety eight, so it's on from there. 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.200 And so she reached out to my dad and at 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.160 the time, somehow she said she'd been searching for me 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.799 for years and she found I don't know how she 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.120 found it, but she found that my last name was Beachley, 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.000 and the first person in the phone book under that 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.839 name was my dad, and so she reached out to him. 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.319 And that was the time that she found out that 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.880 my mother had died when I was young, and that 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.160 I grew up without the family unit that she so 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.520 desperately wanted me to have, and that my name had 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.399 been changed, and that was all a lot for her 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.840 to process because she had these grand ideals around. You know, 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.680 she wanted me to grow up with the name Tanya. 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.960 She wanted me to have a mother and father, you know, 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.080 she wanted all these things for me that she couldn't 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.239 give me, and so she felt like she'd let me down. 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.839 And my dad did his best to reassure her that 0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.000 she know she's part of a very loving family unit 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.920 and that she's done okay for herself. But she's Indonesia. 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.319 So she wrapped this story around the fact that I've 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.480 made perhaps I'm a journalist and I've gone to Indonesia 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.440 to find a story or something. Anyway, Google No, she 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.839 googled me and found out who I was and what 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.719 I'd done, and so then she got all excited and 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.680 then got a little too excited because after my I 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.600 was in I was on a surf trip in Indo 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.400 went back to Hawaii. Dad ranged me and said, your 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:39.240 mother's called. And I was like, well what, Dad, Yeah, 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.640 first mom's dead. No, by lund, your mother's God like 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:48.560 what I gave her you? I gave her your name, 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.480 but I didn't give her your number, and I told 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.479 her you would make contact with her when you were ready. 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:55.839 And then there was all these stories from you know, 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.920 my partner at the time. I wonder if she's googled you. 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.160 I wonder if she's a gold digger, you know, if 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.160 she's a fame, bit of a moth, you know, moth 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.120 after a bright flame. Who knows what the circumstances are, 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.320 but you know, he wrapped all this kind of almost 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:13.040 fear ambiguity around it, and I just wouldn't look I 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.719 trust it. I'm going to make the conversation. I'm going 0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:17.560 to make the effort to have a conversation with it, 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:19.759 but I'm going to wait till I get home, when 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.600 I'm in my own home and my own space and 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.439 I can feel comfortable and relaxed. Before I had that chance, 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.239 she picked up the phone and called my home phone 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.399 number and then tried to make up for the last 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.400 twenty seven years in the first fifteen minutes of our 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.880 first phone call together. So it was really confronting. 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.240 I guess there's so much for you at that point 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.240 to package up and to actually get your head around. 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.520 And also for someone you said your mum was seventeen 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:43.680 or your birth mother was seventeen when she put you 0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.560 up for adoption, there's also a lifetime of her wondering 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:50.080 where your life is and wondering about this child that 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.919 she said goodbye to. Can you tell us a little 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.879 bit around why she at that time, at seventeen put 0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:56.600 you up for adoption. 0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.440 Yeah, I'd say the one big regret I have is 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.960 actually never of deciding to view it from her perspective. 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:04.120 You know, it was all about me. 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.320 Impossible too though at that age. 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.640 Yes, of course, but I didn't take the time to think, 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.280 imagine what I have, no idea what she's been through 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.680 to give birth to me. And in the seventies, you know, 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.640 it would have been easily to abort me. There was 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.279 no guarantees that she was going to keep me. And 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.000 so in the first meeting I hear from her that 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.200 she went on a date. She was an aspiring model 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:25.959 and went on a date with a guy who owned 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.680 a modeling agency, and after dinner he invited her back 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.279 to his place, and she thought that that was an 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.000 innocent introduction, and then he took advantage of her and 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.359 raped her, and then I was conceived. So essentially I'm 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.360 the product of date rape. And she says in my 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.759 book that she picked up the phone and called him 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:46.239 and said, this is what you've done, goodbye. And so 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.680 we don't actually have any record of this guy who 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.279 what I know his first name, don't know his last name, 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.600 and SBS have come knocking asking me to do who 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.680 do you think you are? And when they basically ran 0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.680 all the facts that my mum had about this guy, 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.760 they all rang true. You know, there's really no evidence 0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.400 of this guy, so I can't do that. I have 0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:11.080 no connection to the paternal side of my being, but 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.840 that's okay. I have a very nurturing dad and loving husband, 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.000 and so I connect in that way. But as far 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:20.200 as try to make sense of it, it's very difficult 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.799 because it's smoke and mirrors back there. No, there's no 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.640 real guarantees about what I'll find, so I can see 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.160 through date rape and then her parents told her that 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.360 she wasn't allowed to keep me, so she put me 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.400 up for adoption, and then the rest is history. 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.160 You know, you said something early on which really like 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:38.799 I've been waiting to bring it back up with you, 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.399 so sorry to pull it back up from the depths 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.920 of the interview. You said that when you very first 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.799 decided like I'm going to be a world champion, I'm 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:47.560 going to be the best at this, I'm going to succeed, 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.719 that a lot of those feelings were spurred on when 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.480 you were eight years old and you found out that 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.520 you had been adopted, and you were like, I'll prove 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:57.600 my worthiness. I want to get into that whole period 0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.839 of your life and the successes that you did have. 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.160 But what do you do when you have created a 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:07.719 whole life around achieving, succeeding and being the absolute best 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.120 at something. What happens when you come to the end 0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.759 of that journey and your whole identity and worthiness is 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.640 tied up in being one thing. 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:20.640 You feel lost. That's what happened. You lose all sense 0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:23.960 of self. I mean, it's a wonderful question because everybody 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:27.880 goes through it, especially if you're as fiercely dedicated, committed 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:32.400 and tenacious as I am. And I did feel really 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.279 lost at the end of my career, even though I 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.640 chose to retire, and it was a really easy decision 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.600 to make. For retire, I'm still working as hard as ever, But. 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:44.399 From that one thing that you were like, that's it. 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had to find a mentor 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:52.200 to help me through it because I kept thinking that 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.239 I had to reinvent myself. I kept thinking I had 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.239 to do the next thing that was going to bring 0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:01.799 me that next sense of fulfillment. Annihilation, nothing compares to 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.759 standing on a podium in a bikini, holding a world 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.239 titled trophy above your head, being sprayed with champagne. It's 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.120 just there's no nothing like. 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.080 It, you know, for me, that's a regular Saturday like 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:15.600 that on a podium. 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.440 Getting sprayed and hanging out in your bikini. He's single, 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:19.480 she's living the best life. 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.839 A trophy above your head. It's irreplaceable, and it's it's 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.520 a difficult thing to let go of. Like when you say, Laura, 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.080 when you defined yourself by it, you know your whole 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.839 sense of self and identity has been wrapped up in it. 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.640 So I had to redefine. I had to let go 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.320 and start all over again. As Ben Crow often says, 0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.799 I was a human doing and I had to become 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.759 a human being. And I learned so much from my 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.720 professional career. And that's what I'm teaching people today, either 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.239 through a wake academy or from on stage as a 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:53.319 motivational speaker or facilitator. But ultimately it's about defining who 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.600 you are, how you feel, and what you want and 0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:59.439 then you can then go and see gifts with the world. 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:01.839 But if you're sense of self worth is constantly wrapped 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.759 up in things outside of you, then no matter what 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.360 you do, you're never going to be enough. And then 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.520 you're riding this roller coaster when one day you're successful, 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.680 so therefore you're up, and the next day you may fail, 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.400 so therefore you're down. And then it's just like this 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.640 consistent roller coaster that just slaps you around and there's 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.520 just no comfort, no satisfaction, no joy, and it just 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.760 it rips you apart to the point where when you 0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.439 if you become so identified with and defined by things 0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:30.720 outside of you that your heart is just never feel 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.320 and it's never full, it's never filled. You just feel 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:37.280 incomplete and unhappy and dissatisfied all your life. 0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.439 Plane it makes me question, you know you were You're 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.759 a seven times world champion. You're the only surfer male 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.440 or female to ever get six in a row, so 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:48.839 the most successful. 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.960 Not even King Kelly. You can read six. 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:59.240 When you are at that level of a success, I assume, 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:01.920 I mean I I've never done anything to that extent, 0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:05.360 so I can't personally relate like to have that amount 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:06.760 of dedication to something. 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:08.440 Do you have to be one hundred percent? 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:08.640 You know? 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:09.560 Are you talking about that? 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.960 You struggled after you retired because it was the only 0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:15.600 thing that you identified with. But is there any other option, Like, 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:20.520 when you are so wholly devoted to surfing, was there 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:21.600 time for anything else? 0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:24.440 Yes? Absolutely, I made time for other things. And no 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.200 matter how much you love your job, and no matter 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.240 how committed you are doing, you still need a break 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:31.560 from it. And I learned that early on because we 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.279 often believe that the only way achieved something is through 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.080 the way in which we know. And what I've learned 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.440 throughout my career is that I can disprove what I 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.120 know by learning how to do it a different way. 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.360 So I've won seven world titles. I won six in 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.239 a row, but I only won two in a state 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:47.480 of love, the other five a one in a state 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:50.120 of fear. And the way that I differentiate the two 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.720 is when I'm in a state of fear, I'm outcome driven. 0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.160 So when I'm not winning, I am losing and I 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.120 am a dismal failure. When I'm losing, I beat myself up, 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.759 I give myself hard time. So now I'm winning at 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.799 all costs. If you're not with me, get the fuck 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.279 out of my way. I'm on an absolute mission and 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.759 I'm on a path of destruction, so I must win. 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.600 You don't understand how much of my self worth, my identity, 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.160 everything about me is wrapped up in this and if 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:21.479 I don't achieve this, then it's your fault, So piss off, 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:24.040 leave me alone. I got to get this done. That's 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:26.760 world titles number two to six, number one to seven, 0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:30.239 my loved based world titles. We're one in a love 0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.680 of process. How can I be better today than I 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:37.279 was yesterday? If I'm a little bit fatigued, then what 0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:40.120 do I need to do to re energize my body? 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.920 If I'm feeling really focused and energized, am I making 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.520 the most use of that particular amount of energy? So 0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:53.439 everything was self actualized. Everything was in alignment. And when 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.680 I had good days, there were good days. But when 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.920 I had bad days, they weren't bad days, they were 0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:01.520 speed bumps. So when I wasn't winning, I was learning. 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.960 So the victim mentality is if I'm not winning, I'm losing. 0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:08.239 The victor is if I'm not winning, I'm learning. It's 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:14.040 a really subtle mindset shift to go from losing to learning. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:17.720 But it just comes down to a commitment and asking 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.760 yourself is the way in which I'm going after my goals, 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.800 or the way in which I'm pursuing my ambition sustainable 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:28.120 because welld title number one and seven prove to me 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.799 that it can be done in a sustainable, fun and 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:34.080 effortless way if you continue to thank yourself in gratitude. 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:36.560 Well titles number two to six, which were win at 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:40.000 all costs mentality, must get this job done. If my 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.319 body's breaking, it's just a sign that I have to 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.879 work harder. I will not honor my body, I will 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:48.000 not honor my health. I will sacrifice and compromise every 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.719 aspect of my being because if I don't win, I 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:54.600 will not be deserving of love. And I prove to 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.040 myself that I was worthy and deserving. And Well title 0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:59.800 number one, why did I stop trusting in that? Because 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:01.480 I've place to story around it? 0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.160 That was going to be my very next question. I 0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:06.879 was like, why did something change? At World title number two? 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:10.239 I just expected more of myself. I thought that the 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.040 world expected more of me, and the only way that 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.680 I was going to fulfill that expectation is by working 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:19.800 twice as hard, trying twice as hard, doing twice as more. 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.640 And then I wonder why my body breaks down. So 0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.000 halfway through the first nineteen ninety nine was my second 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.000 world title, and in May I tear the medial ligament 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.480 in my right knee. Now, instead of taking six weeks out, 0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.960 I take ten days out, and I come back and 0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:36.000 I surf and I compete, and then I win the 0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:37.920 richest event in the world at the time with a 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:41.000 knee brace on. And then the next time I fracture 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:43.040 a rib, I surf. Well, it feels like I've got 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:45.040 a punctured lung. You know when there's a rib out 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.360 and it just feels like it's constantly hitting you with lungs. 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:50.360 You can't breathe properly. And then I smash my face. 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:51.960 I get a wave that lands on the back of 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.680 my neck, horne heads a disc because heav's my spinal cord. 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:56.760 Eighty percent of my spinal cord is seven My left 0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:01.520 arm is numb, atrophy pins and needles, blood, hot butter knife, 0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.680 wedge between my shoulder blades. You know what I did, 0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.520 ignored it. Let's just keep going, Let's just keep pushing through. 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.120 A wave lands on the smaller my low back folds 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.919 me in half, crushes my lumbar spine. Paddle back out 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.920 thirty minutes later to win another world title, like just push, push, push, 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:21.360 it all costs, gotta win. And now in my fifties, 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.200 I am in constant pain management. I have to go 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.840 and see physios, I have to do cryo chambers, I 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:30.040 have to see chiropractice, massage therapists. I have at least 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:33.920 two sessions a week just to manage my body because 0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.120 I didn't honor it when I was competing. 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.360 You know, you speak about this from someone who worked 0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:43.600 and performed at the most elite level of professional serving 0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:45.360 and you are the one who put all of these 0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:48.280 demands on yourself because success was so important to you. 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.680 Something I think that's so important is like people do 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:55.080 this in different variations, not just in professional sport, but 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:57.120 people do this in different ways. 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:58.240 In their life all the time. 0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.360 From what you've learned, and when you got to a 0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.760 point when you were like, my body is like I've 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.440 done this to myself. I can't keep performing at this level. 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:07.800 What changed in you? 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.360 How did you recognize that you were just at a 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:13.880 point where you were completely taking yourself for granted, or 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.320 you kept expecting and yes, you could keep doing it, 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.360 but you kept expecting an amount from yourself that was 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:20.240 not sustainable. 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:25.520 What changed? Well, I won my six consecutive world title. 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:29.760 I decided that winning six consecutive world titles meant being 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:33.640 the most successful surfer in history. I had defined success 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.840 as being the most successful surfer in history, and I 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.840 defined being worthy of love as being successful, which meant 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:42.600 being a six times consecutive world champion. So what changed 0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:44.439 was a friend of mine said, to you enough yet, 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.080 And she asked her in a way where she said, 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:50.200 what's driving you? Do you think it's because you're adopted? 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.080 And that was the first time that question had been 0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.960 asked in that way to me. And it's so strongly 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.400 resonated with my heart it almost put a stake through it. 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:03.640 I just went, oh, oh, my goodness, I'm still trying 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:05.919 to prove that eight year old girl that she's enough. 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:08.360 I'm still I'm trying to prove to the world that 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:12.040 that little eight year old who felt so scared, so abandoned, 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.720 so rejected, even though she was being reassured that she 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:19.560 is loved and worthy and belongs here. She has been 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:23.600 proving to the world that until she becomes something, she'll 1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.680 never be enough. And the lesson that I've learned is 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.960 no one can ever tell you that you're enough. No 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:33.320 one will ever give you permission to be enough unless 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.200 you do. You know, we all talk about how love 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:38.680 comes from the self. You know what enoughness comes from 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.560 the self as well. Enoughness is acceptance that where you are, 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:45.040 who you are, what you're doing right here, right now 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.800 is more than enough. Now. I had convinced myself that 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:53.760 myself that the only way that I could be enough 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:58.040 was to become the most successful surfer in history. And 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.440 then I got there and I went, am I enough yet? Yeah? 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:05.760 I'm enough now? Okay, so now let's go for another one. 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:09.320 You know, I think exactly like what Laura just said 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.320 that you did this in the sense that very few 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:17.160 people are professional athletes that are seeking validation by getting 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:17.880 world titles. 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:19.360 But I think a lot of us. 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:21.960 I mean, I know that for a lot of my 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:24.960 girlfriends and I we've spent a lot of our twenties 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:25.960 kind of figuring out. 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:28.320 Whether we're enough for the guy that we're dating. 1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:31.120 And I think that when you get to that point 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.640 of realization of I mean, for me, it came in 1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.680 my quite late twenties when I really started to unpack 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:41.360 validation and started to unpack why do I feel as though. 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:43.160 I'm not enough for these people? 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:46.160 And I think that there's that point of our maturity 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:51.120 perhaps where you really start to process, Actually, this might 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:52.920 not have anything to do with not being enough for 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:54.480 this other person. This might have a little bit to 1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:58.720 do with me and about me seeking validation in unhealthy ways. 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.720 And I think for you, seems that you sought it 1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:05.800 through winning, through becoming the absolute best at say when. 1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.400 I think it's even interesting that you say that, keish 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.160 because I don't see this necessarily as being a token 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.640 of maturity, because I think there are plenty of people 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.439 who are in their fifty sixties, seventies who never reach 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:21.640 a state of being able to self validate. I think 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:24.480 that it's a mindset, it's you know, some people might 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.240 learn it in their twenties, some people might learn it 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:28.680 in their fifties. I don't think that it's necessarily something 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:30.840 that you just arrive at when you hit thirty years 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:33.200 of age and you go, ah, now I realize I 1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:35.880 don't need to get my validation from external sources. 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:39.400 And to that point, I know teenagers that are enough. Yeah, 1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:42.360 I know thirteen year olds, twelve year olds, ten year olds, 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:44.000 six year olds, that are enough. 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:47.800 Lane, Just speaking about your time in surfing, working in 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:52.000 an industry that was so male dominated, What was it 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:54.120 like at that time? And this is very much in 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.440 terms of just your day to day being a professional 1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:59.760 sports athlete in an industry that women didn't really have 1:02:59.840 --> 1:03:02.280 a foothold in it yet, what was it like being 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:03.720 a pioneer of that sport. 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:09.640 It was a shit show. It was a chauvinistic, sexist 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:14.920 shit show. Yeah, the nineteen eighties, seventies, eighties and nineties 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:19.560 and women's surfing was not a very glamorous or welcoming 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:23.320 place to find yourself as a woman. It was really toxic. 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:28.320 You know. We were first rejected by our male counterparts, 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:31.880 We had no support from the industry, and the governing 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:34.160 body really saw us as a distraction to the men. 1:03:34.720 --> 1:03:37.400 So if you've seen that documentary called Girls Can't Surf, 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:41.600 that's a really classic snapshot of what we were encountered, 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:43.920 what we're up against. Like, let's cancel the women's event, 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:45.840 put the money back into the men because we want 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:48.160 to pay them more because they attract bigger crowds. But 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.640 then we'll keep the bikini contest. It was a really 1:03:51.680 --> 1:03:54.360 toxic culture, and like it says in the film, we 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.000 weren't given permission by the surf industry, of the surf 1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:01.120 culture to be embraced by it, supported by it. So, 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:07.160 as Catherine Fox and Kirsten Ferguson wrote in their book Womenkind, 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:10.640 when women find themselves in an environment where they devalued, 1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:14.240 they devalue themselves and they devalue each other. And that's 1:04:14.280 --> 1:04:16.480 what women surfing look like to me in the nineties. 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:18.600 So not only were we devalued by the industry and 1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:21.480 our male counterparts and the governing body, but then we 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:26.520 saw every opportunity as a threat. So there were no opportunities. 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:29.240 Everything was a challenge, and so we dragged each other down, 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:33.720 we pulled each other back, and we really didn't celebrate 1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:38.400 or elevate each other. And it was divide and conquer. 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:41.640 There was no collaboration, there was no cohesion. There was 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:45.040 very little camaraderie. And women are the minority in the 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:48.040 majority of situations, so if we see another woman succeed, 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.240 we automatically think that's one less opportunity available to us. 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:53.480 But at the end of the day, if I reflect 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:56.080 on my career, every single one of us knew that 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:58.680 when we were entering the sporting arena, when we're entering 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:02.640 competition and well titled only one person's going to win lane. 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:03.840 I fucking love that quote. 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:06.480 I had never heard that before, but it's so I mean, 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:08.480 and I think it's true for so many things that 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:11.480 you've spoken about so far, Like, yes, it's relative to 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:14.520 the sporting world, that's relative to how women interact with 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.720 each other in many different industries on social media in 1:05:17.800 --> 1:05:20.800 so many different ways. And I remember having a conversation 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:24.560 with someone recently and the response to something that we 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:26.080 were talking about was like, oh, well, women are the 1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:28.160 worst for it, like they're so mean to each other 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:31.080 on social media or they're so mean in how they interact. 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:33.800 And it is exactly what you just said. It's this 1:05:33.960 --> 1:05:36.920 idea that when we're already pitted against each other, that 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.480 we turn on each other. Yeah, And I think there's 1:05:39.520 --> 1:05:41.560 so much to learn in that conversation as well. 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:44.720 And the advertising agencies or the advertising world in the 1:05:44.760 --> 1:05:47.439 marketing world ride off the back of that. They ride 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:50.120 off our vulnerability, they ride off our belief that we're 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:53.520 done enough by negatively reinforcing us to belief that we 1:05:53.560 --> 1:05:55.680 aren't enough. We're never going to be happy until we 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:58.160 achieve this. We're not going to be deemed successful until 1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:00.360 we achieve that. We're not going to have enough money 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:02.960 until we're able to drive that, live there, wear this, 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:07.200 do that. You're not pretty enough, tall enough, skinny enough, 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:09.600 short enough, Like, no matter what you do, you're never enough. 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:13.160 So we're constantly reinforced to believe that. And then, like 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:16.560 I said, if we see limited opportunity, then instead of 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:19.720 elevating another to do it and celebrating that, we pull 1:06:19.760 --> 1:06:21.520 the push them out of the way and stomp on 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:24.560 them and silicone the glass ceiling up and say, look, 1:06:24.880 --> 1:06:26.880 I had to do it tough, but it's worked out 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:28.800 all right for me, So you're going to have to 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:31.360 do it tougher because I want you to be better 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:36.680 than me. It's like, where's the encouragement, where's the compassion, 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:40.200 the consideration, Like the whole reason that we've got female 1:06:40.200 --> 1:06:44.480 pioneers is to pave the way, not to close it 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:47.240 up and seal it up and preventing the other woman 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:49.880 from getting through there. You know, one of my major 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:53.400 bug bears is seeing women in leadership positions making it 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:56.000 harder for women to follow in their footsteps. Where the 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.480 sign of a good teacher is when their student succeeds them. 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:02.280 What is the female surfing world like now? 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:04.800 No, it's a very very different environment. 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:06.040 Yeah. 1:07:06.120 --> 1:07:08.000 Yeah, And does that make you proud because I know 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:11.200 that you were a really monumental part in changing that narrative. 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:14.520 Absolutely, I'm really proud of where women's surfing is today. 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:16.120 To say that there's still a long way to go, 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:19.160 and I'm proud of where women's sport is today, but 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.120 then there's a shit time of work still to be 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.120 done to make that a better playing field for women. 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:25.960 We all want to experience a state of equality. Whatever 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.520 that looks like and feels like, I don't know. But 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:31.160 as long as we can keep pushing the cause and 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:36.960 reinforcing the need to have female role models and pioneers 1:07:37.080 --> 1:07:40.480 in environments where they're paving the way for future generations. 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:43.440 The way I like to present it is every pioneer 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.360 must have the courage to plant a seed and water 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:48.480 that seed to grow a tree that they may one 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:51.800 day never have the chance to sit under. And quite honestly, 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:54.440 in my life, I never expected women's surfing to be 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:57.440 the first surfing to be the first sport to announce 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:00.520 pay equity. Not in my wildest dreams that I see coming. 1:08:00.520 --> 1:08:02.600 But I'm really grateful that I was a part of 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:07.040 that narrative and drove that so hard because I was 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:11.600 just extremely disappointed in the way in which we were treated. 1:08:11.680 --> 1:08:14.760 I mean, in nineteen years on tour, I owned a 1:08:14.760 --> 1:08:17.960 half a million dollars in prize money. Today, Stephanie Gilmore 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:22.400 or Tyler Wright or Sally Fitzgibbons, they can earn more 1:08:22.439 --> 1:08:25.040 in one year than I earned in nineteen So it's 1:08:25.160 --> 1:08:28.240 a completely different environment. And it's not just about the money, 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:31.240 but they're respected, they've got an industry body supporting them, 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:33.400 they've got a governing body who believes in them, who 1:08:33.439 --> 1:08:36.920 will actually stand up and fight for them versus fighting 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:39.200 against them, which is what they did to us. The 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:42.040 men would protest that the waves had got too good 1:08:42.120 --> 1:08:44.639 for us. Back in two thousand and two, they were 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:46.760 protesting that the waves were too good for us, and 1:08:46.800 --> 1:08:50.639 they stormed the judges tower and they asked the governing 1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:53.519 body to prevent us from being able to surf in 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:55.559 waves that, in their eyes, were too good for us. 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:57.200 And we stood up for the first time in a 1:08:57.280 --> 1:08:59.000 very long time and fought against that and we won 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:00.960 that battle and we got surf that day and I 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:03.800 won that event. But the guys were glowing about how 1:09:03.800 --> 1:09:05.920 well we served. It's like, no, shit, sure, look it's 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:08.600 the first time you've had a surfing decent conditions. The 1:09:08.720 --> 1:09:11.560 quality of your performance is definitely dictated to by the 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:14.320 quality of the conditions in which you're performing in. If 1:09:14.360 --> 1:09:16.120 you're surfing in shit waves all the time, which the 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:18.600 constant narrative is if it turns to shit, send the 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.880 girls out, then of course we're always going to be 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:21.800 depicted in that way. 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:24.320 But also then it's that vicious cycle of like, well, 1:09:24.360 --> 1:09:26.599 you're surfing shit waves, which people don't want to watch, 1:09:26.640 --> 1:09:29.040 so therefore the crowds aren't there, so therefore the investment 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:31.800 and advertising. You know, I think this is like and 1:09:31.800 --> 1:09:33.200 it's a question I want to throw to you in 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:36.160 terms of how you view women's sports across the board. 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:39.519 But there is this ongoing debate comes up every year 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:43.040 and it's around, well, women's sport shouldn't be paid the 1:09:43.080 --> 1:09:45.880 same because it doesn't get the same amount of views, 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:48.280 so therefore it doesn't get the same amount of advertising dollars. 1:09:48.600 --> 1:09:51.680 And I guess from majority of people, it's like, well, 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:54.240 it's chicken before the egg, Like, unless the conditions are 1:09:54.280 --> 1:09:56.800 the same, the equity and the quality of the sport 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:59.200 won't increase. But what is your view on that when 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:00.960 someone says to you, oh, but it doesn't get the 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:03.360 same amount of advertising, so how could they possibly pay 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:04.080 women the same? 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:05.479 Well, even in. 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:07.479 That conversation, this year was the first year that for 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:09.760 the state of origin that the women were paid the 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:12.599 same amount as the men. In Queensland, if you played 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:15.679 for the Queensland team, you got paid the same amount. 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:18.040 But if you played from New South Wales, the women 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:21.240 got paid substantially less than the men. And so even 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:25.519 within the same sport, in the same game, you've got 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:26.720 this inequality. 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:28.439 Yeah, disparity, sorry of pay. 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:32.120 Yeah, well this is this is an issue that goes 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:35.719 across all industry, not just sport. I mean, we see 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:40.240 female lawyers earning less, female doctors earning less, female presenters 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:43.559 earning less. Why is that based on gender? Is it 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.120 because we allow it? I think, you know, there's an 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:49.360 element of personal accountability and responsibility that needs to fall 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:52.240 on our shoulders. And look, I talked that very seriously 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:55.720 when I was competing because my sponsors would question my 1:10:55.840 --> 1:10:59.040 motivation even after winning six consecutive all titles and threaten 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:02.040 to drop me, whereas they're still going all out to 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:06.719 support their male team writers. So to answer your question, 1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:09.880 I feel that it's multifaceted. I feel that there's got 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:11.840 to be a confluence of events that needs to occur. 1:11:11.920 --> 1:11:14.240 We can't just keep putting the onus on the industry 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:18.040 to pay women more because women need to not so 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:21.960 much earn it, but they need the opportunity to build 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:26.040 themselves up to be worthy of it. Because if I 1:11:26.080 --> 1:11:28.479 look at Women's AFL, like the first couple of years, 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:31.400 it was such a scrappy game, but that was because 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:35.080 they didn't have the opportunity to play on the right fields. 1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:37.960 They didn't have the support, they didn't have the coaching, 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:41.439 they didn't have change rooms, they didn't have just the 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:43.960 comforts to make them feel like they belonged in the game. 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:46.559 And they couldn't train because they weren't getting paid enough, 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:48.000 so they had to do other jobs. You know. 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:48.920 There's all that. 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:51.479 Yes, there's a lot more to it than just money. 1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:53.760 Though there's a lot more to it, but they need 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:55.880 to feel like they belong there. They need to be 1:11:55.920 --> 1:12:00.519 given the equal opportunity. My belief is that women do 1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:04.120 deserve to be paid equally, and that argument, especially when 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:06.360 it comes to Grand Slams in tennis, that women only 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.280 play three sets, So why do they get the same 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:10.720 prize money as someone that's just played five. Well, there's 1:12:10.760 --> 1:12:13.280 no guarantee that the men's winner will have to play 1:12:13.320 --> 1:12:15.719 five sets, by the way, he could win it in three. 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:19.439 And secondly, what about the enormous amount of sacrifice and 1:12:19.520 --> 1:12:23.360 commitment and compromise that women have had to endure to 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:27.080 get to that place and to generate that equal opportunity. 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:30.080 We need the partners, the sponsorship to see the value 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:33.280 in the future of it. Sure, right now it might 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:36.519 not be that valuable, but you have an obligation and 1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:38.960 a duty to make it more valuable than what it is. 1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:41.080 It can't just fall on the players. It has to 1:12:41.560 --> 1:12:45.639 or the participants. It's got to be a multifaceted approach. 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:47.400 So I reckon the partners have a lot to play 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:51.760 in it. The broadcasters give us more airtime. We need 1:12:51.800 --> 1:12:53.320 to see our role models. I mean, one of the 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:58.400 reasons why I was so compelled to become a professional surfer. 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:00.839 As I used to watch the Coke Class on TV. 1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:04.479 I videotaped it and I would rewind that cassette and 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:06.960 play it every day. Just being able to watch my 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:10.320 role models, being able to see that on national television 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:14.200 helped me create a story around how I can be 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:16.760 that too. So it comes down to the partners, the broadcasters, 1:13:16.760 --> 1:13:19.280 and then ultimately the talent. Now when I say the talent, 1:13:19.320 --> 1:13:23.559 I mean the people who like me. Don't rely on 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:27.360 either the broadcasters or the sponsors to dictate who I am. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:29.800 I need to know who you are because the more 1:13:29.840 --> 1:13:31.800 I know about you, the more I want to support you. 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:34.639 The more I connect with you, the more encouraged I'll 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:36.760 be to come to the games to support you, to 1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:40.040 elevate you, to celebrate you, to share in your successes, 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:43.120 to console you in your losses. To be a part 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:45.400 of that journey is what we all want, and that's 1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:47.720 how we connect with each other. So women need to 1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:50.160 tell We need to be able to tell bigger stories, 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:52.880 better stories, and we need to be given the same 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:55.559 level of opportunity to do that. As women, we need 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:57.760 to hold each other accountable, but we also need to 1:13:57.760 --> 1:13:59.639 stand firm in who we are. We need to stand 1:13:59.640 --> 1:14:02.360 firm in our values and what we set the standards 1:14:02.360 --> 1:14:05.000 by what we allow. And I must admit I allowed 1:14:05.280 --> 1:14:08.839 way too much chauvinistic and sexist behavior to be considered normal, 1:14:09.200 --> 1:14:11.639 so much so that I still have this underlying belief 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:13.920 that men don't respect women in the water. I've been 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:16.400 able to disprove that by the guys I surf with today, 1:14:16.439 --> 1:14:18.360 but I can still go back to and validate that 1:14:18.400 --> 1:14:20.519 story very quickly if I just want to go down 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:22.080 surf a manly or narrab. 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:25.120 If you do go and surf a manly like, I 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:27.880 can only imagine. I actually have surfed at manly and 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:31.400 I picture myself paddling onto a wave, and by the 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.600 time I realize that it's Lane Beachley to my co 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.479 to my side, I go, there's no fucking way I'm 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:37.360 paddling for a wave. 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:41.880 I am getting out of her way. 1:14:42.439 --> 1:14:44.400 Yeah, I do get my fair share. I must admit 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:47.519 it takes a lot to slow me down. Lane. 1:14:48.160 --> 1:14:52.519 Life on Cut largely built off of relationships and talking 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:53.120 about love. 1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:55.280 We did love a bit of love. Chat here do 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:56.040 love a bit of love. 1:14:56.200 --> 1:15:02.280 And for anyone who doesn't know your husband equally is successful. 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.400 I don't know how you guys are competitive fliers in 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:06.160 your household. 1:15:07.040 --> 1:15:09.760 She's like, how many trophies do you have? How many 1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:11.040 trophies does Kirk have? 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:14.400 I don't know because they're locked up somewhere, like he 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:16.679 never really wanted to display them because he was worried 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:19.840 that people would feel overwhelmed or overwawed when they walked 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:22.519 into his presence. And I was like, let's celebrate this shit. 1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:27.280 You were the biggest fan in the world, Kirk. Come on, 1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:30.080 let's celebrate that, so that these are all pluks. 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:32.960 To give a little bit of context for anyone who 1:15:33.040 --> 1:15:38.200 doesn't know, Kirk, your husband of eighteen years now, eighteen 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:39.360 nineteen years something. 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:41.400 Like that, twenty years this year, one of. 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:43.960 The most successful musicians in the world. He's one of 1:15:44.000 --> 1:15:46.840 the founding members of you Excess. 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:48.040 Correct, and everyone wants to marry a man that can 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:50.040 blow a horn, and he's a great sex sophonist. 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:52.479 Elaine, the thing that I love and I've heard your 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:55.240 story before about how the two of you met. This 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.320 is a conversation and debate that comes up all the 1:15:57.360 --> 1:15:59.400 time on life on cart and it's whether if you 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:01.439 don't have any instance spark with someone, Should you go 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:02.120 on a second date? 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.559 Should you try and see if something grows? 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:07.960 Now I heard that when you very first met Kirk 1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:10.200 and went on a first date, there wasn't really a 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:10.840 spark there. 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:15.160 There was no chemistry, no connection, there was nothing. Quite honestly, 1:16:15.200 --> 1:16:16.880 I didn't even want to go on the date. I 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:19.720 had no interest in him whatsoever. John Stevens decided that 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:23.000 we would be a great match, and quite honestly, I 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:25.400 was much more attracted to John Stevens than I was 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:26.080 goping Gilly. 1:16:26.760 --> 1:16:30.120 John Stevens from Noiseworks again, yes, in case people don't 1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:31.360 know it, also a musician, so. 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:34.080 He was frontman of Noiseworks, became the front man of 1:16:34.080 --> 1:16:37.040 in Excess after they tragically lost Michael, and then they 1:16:37.400 --> 1:16:39.599 did some work with Terrence Strint Derby, and then John 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:43.080 came along and then they've obviously reinvented themselves a couple 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.519 of times since then. But John's been a great mate 1:16:45.520 --> 1:16:48.920 and a big supporter, and there's still an incredible singer 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:52.040 and musician and performer. He decided that Kirk and I 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:54.479 would be a great combination. I have no idea how 1:16:54.640 --> 1:16:57.320 or why, because Kirk and I have nothing in common, 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.920 and that continues to be reinforced to day about how 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:03.400 little we have in common. But we've been together for 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:06.280 twenty years, we've been married for since the tenth of 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.240 the tenth, so twelve years. And our first date was 1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:14.240 really tenuous. And I promised John that I'd take Kirk 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:16.680 on a date, so I literally took him ten bin 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:21.000 bowling at yurself. We always want to start a date 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:24.519 with a competition, don't we who won? We won one 1:17:24.520 --> 1:17:24.960 game each. 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:26.840 I think it's always good to do an activity on 1:17:26.880 --> 1:17:28.840 a first date. Then that way you're not tired at 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:31.879 talking at dinner. There's actually nothing to talk about exactly. 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:34.880 And so then we walked from Dyiri to dy Beachfront 1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:36.519 to go to a restaurant that friends of mine own, 1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:39.719 and the whole way Kirk decides to talk about surfing, 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.080 and I was like, fuck me, really, the last thing 1:17:43.120 --> 1:17:45.799 I want to think about is and talk about is surfing. 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:47.800 But you obviously think that's maybe the only thing I 1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:50.760 do know anything about, So okay, I'll honor this conversation. 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:53.799 And you know, Kirk hates the sun, hates the sand, 1:17:54.120 --> 1:17:56.160 doesn't like owner the beach. Yet we live right by 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:59.519 one and then when we sit down at dinner, we're 1:17:59.560 --> 1:18:02.760 yawning each other's face. We're really struggling to find conversation. 1:18:02.920 --> 1:18:04.800 I go to the bathroom. I'm thinking, if there's a window, 1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:06.680 I can climb that off. I'm fucking out of here. 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.160 And I'm thinking, if I've done, if I've spent enough 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:13.160 time in here, maybe I've given him enough time to 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:15.559 do a runner. And he's literally thinking, well, he's at 1:18:15.600 --> 1:18:17.400 the table. If I put money down, do a runner, 1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:19.439 I think you'll care. And then he realized his car 1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:21.200 was at my house, so we couldn't do that because 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:23.760 he doesn't really remember where I live. So I came 1:18:23.800 --> 1:18:25.280 out of the bathroom, and I must admit I was 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:27.880 a little disappointed because he was still sitting at the table. Thought, 1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:36.320 I gave you plenty of time. Yeah, yes, exactly what. Anyway, 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:38.120 the owner of the restaurant's a good made of mine, 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:40.160 and he recognized that things weren't going so well, so 1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:42.000 he sat down with us with a fresh bottle of 1:18:42.000 --> 1:18:45.840 his known as lemoncello, and that really loosened everything up, 1:18:45.880 --> 1:18:48.959 like we just let's get out, let's shake off the shackles, 1:18:48.960 --> 1:18:51.040 and let's relax into this and have a real fun 1:18:51.040 --> 1:18:55.200 conversation and we laughed and told classic old stories. And 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:57.280 then we walked home to my house and I was 1:18:57.360 --> 1:19:01.120 bouncing off the doors of cars, just so drunk, just 1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:04.760 square dancing all the way home. And then we get 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:06.479 home and then I put on Monster z Inc. Because 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:08.599 I'm so fucking romantic. I'm like, we're going to sit 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:09.800 down and watch a kid's film? 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.679 What are we doing? What is this day? 1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:16.040 It's just shit shows what it is? So we watch 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:19.160 Monsters Inc. And then halfway through it, I'm thinking, Okay, 1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:21.920 surely he's sober enough now to drive home, but if 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:24.559 he's a good kisser, I'll let him stay. So we 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:26.800 went out of the balcony and he's still talking. I'm like, 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:28.720 fucking just shut up and kiss me. So he kissed me. 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:30.160 I'm like, all right, yeah, you're passed, so right, you 1:19:30.160 --> 1:19:33.960 can stay. And so I made him sleep in his 1:19:34.040 --> 1:19:36.559 clothes and then he woke up alone in my bed 1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:38.559 because I got up at six before dark and windsurfing, 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:40.400 and he went and he woke up went is this 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:42.960 what I'm in for? So? Gee, she's been a bit presumptuous. 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:45.479 Aren't you what you're going to be? For the rest 1:19:45.520 --> 1:19:46.000 of your life. 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:47.360 As it turns out. 1:19:47.479 --> 1:19:49.960 Now I am assuming he wakes up most mornings and 1:19:50.000 --> 1:19:51.599 you're not in bed and he's alone. 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:52.880 That's nothing's changed. 1:19:53.720 --> 1:19:55.920 No, that's changed a lot because I don't like getting 1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:58.800 up early, especially in winter. But it's too cold and 1:19:58.840 --> 1:20:00.880 all the briefcase bandits and the school kids are in 1:20:00.920 --> 1:20:03.160 the water. So I like to get up around seven, 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:05.720 go surfing around eight to eight birdie. That way, it's 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:08.719 a changeover briefcase Bandit's gone, the work kids gone to school, 1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.559 have it to myself. So yeah, we've found our mojo, 1:20:11.640 --> 1:20:13.960 We've found our routine that serves us. Really a kirks 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:18.759 and real cuddler. He's very, very nurturing, very affectionate, lovesy 1:20:18.840 --> 1:20:19.839 snaggles and cardles. 1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:21.160 He's a physical touch guy. 1:20:21.960 --> 1:20:25.000 That's definitely one of his love languages, his physical touch. Yeah, 1:20:25.040 --> 1:20:26.800 so I'm not allowed to get out of bed when 1:20:26.840 --> 1:20:29.040 it's dark unless it's absolutely necessary. 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:32.280 Lane, you are the founder of Awake Academy. And now, 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:35.799 what it says on the website is that it provides 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:38.720 self empowerment and helps people detach from fear and take 1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:40.720 control and design a life they love. 1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:42.240 No bullshit, transformation. 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:44.719 Yeah, and I love this idea of detaching from fear. 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:48.360 Why was this foundation so important to you? 1:20:48.920 --> 1:20:52.960 So before COVID, I had decided that it was time 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:56.400 to write another book, and I really wanted to condense 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:59.240 all the life lessons that I've learned. So my biography 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.680 is obviously it's a biography, it's you know, it's a 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:05.080 historical reference of the things that I've been through. But 1:21:05.160 --> 1:21:09.800 it really didn't encapsulate all of the really deep, fundamental, 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:13.160 valuable life lessons that are really applicable to our day 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:15.520 to day lives. So I wasn't able to really incorporate 1:21:15.520 --> 1:21:17.200 that into my book, into Beneath the Waves. So I 1:21:17.200 --> 1:21:19.040 thought it's time to write another book, and I'm going 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:21.639 to call it Above the Waves since the first one 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:22.439 was Beneath the Waves. 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:24.120 Great sequel, I see where you did that. 1:21:24.640 --> 1:21:28.000 So I decided to put it into like a PowerPoint 1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:32.759 keynote format and I rode tested it at my next 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:34.759 One of my next keynotes was some of the things 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:37.120 and and a lot of it resonated a bit, you know, 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:38.840 fell flat, and I was like, Okay, I'll just keep 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:42.280 working on it. And then I decided that I was 1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:45.600 going to host a public workshop, and it was the 1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:47.719 first time I'd ever asked people to come and pay 1:21:47.920 --> 1:21:50.280 to hear from me, as opposed to being paid to 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:53.760 go and speak to others. And the self imposed the 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:57.240 self imposter, you know, the imposter syndrome sparked up was 1:21:57.240 --> 1:22:00.160 like I'm not smart enough that I'm not deserving of this, 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.800 I'm not worthy to share this information, Like is there 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:06.680 really any value in it? Anyway? People paid, people showed up, 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:09.599 and that gave me the confidence to believe that actually, 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:12.680 my content is of value and is of worth and 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:16.320 does need to be shared. And then my girlfriend, Tess, 1:22:16.320 --> 1:22:19.240 who's now my business partner, she helped me do like 1:22:19.280 --> 1:22:23.360 a snapshot, you know how retailers do stock takes to 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:25.320 work out what's working and what's not, get rid of 1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:27.639 stuff that isn't. She did that with me. I did 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:29.760 a stock take on my life, like what's working, what's not? 1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:33.679 How sustainable is my current lifestyle. I'm talking about living 1:22:34.000 --> 1:22:36.360 in a well, I'm talking I'm teaching people how to 1:22:36.400 --> 1:22:41.040 achieve sustained success, and yet it's unsustainable. And I realized 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.000 I had fallen back into that fear mentality that win 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:47.559 it all costs mentality, that ferocious tiger shark, the one 1:22:47.560 --> 1:22:50.719 that must achieve it all costs. My body was broken, 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.439 my relationship with my husband was strained, but I just 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:56.559 kept doing, doing, doing, and she went, whoa wait, wait, 1:22:56.560 --> 1:22:58.800 how sustainable is this? And I went, no, not for ari. 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:00.680 She's like, do you want to write another book? I 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:03.920 said no, not really. Writing's not my jam. I've paid 1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:07.000 for a write like an editor, and I'm paying her 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:09.280 a shit tone and she's like, ah, you sending me anything. 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:11.280 I'm like, not, haven't written in the last two months? 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:14.519 Like maybe we should stop doing this. You're right, I'm 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.639 throwing money away. And so she said, well, what about 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:20.080 doing a course like building a course? I said, that 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:24.000 lights me up, and then COVID hit and I spent 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:26.280 the next six months in front of this little computer 1:23:26.320 --> 1:23:28.960 that I'm talking to you on, typing out a course 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:31.759 called Own Your Truth that's housed on the Awake Academy 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:35.080 platform to help people own their shit like wake Up, 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:38.160 own your Shit, Trust in Love. Because a lot of 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:41.040 us are going through life on default mode. We're living 1:23:41.080 --> 1:23:43.639 life by default. This course helps you live it by design. 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:47.200 So we're all about cultivating connection, growth, and happiness. In humanity, 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:50.080 and everyone that's done this course has walked away feeling 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:52.960 more centered, connected and confident. And that's all I really 1:23:53.000 --> 1:23:55.360 want to do. I really wanted to harness what I've 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:57.720 learned over the last forty years turn it into a 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.400 self paced online course that people can go through it 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.840 their own time and their own pace and take bits 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:04.760 from it that they can apply to make them feel 1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:08.280 happier and healthier. It's enabled me to broaden my impact. 1:24:08.760 --> 1:24:12.880 It's enabled me to deliver such profound content without me 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:15.120 having to be there because it's all done through video 1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:18.519 and workbook. And it's also I've been able to turn 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:21.360 it into a corporate model where I've been able to 1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:25.760 scale it into corporate organizations and for ninety minutes a 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:29.280 week for four weeks, I can literally transform your team 1:24:29.479 --> 1:24:31.960 and your workforce to make them feeling more sender, connected, 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:34.439 and confidence. So it's something I'm very proud of and 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:37.800 something that's enabled me to be a better version of me. 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:41.320 And it actually helped me anchor my why because we 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:43.240 all need to know our why. It's what helps us 1:24:43.240 --> 1:24:45.320 get up, especially on the days when we don't feel 1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:47.720 like it, and my why is awakening others awakens me. 1:24:48.640 --> 1:24:51.120 Lane, thank you so much for doing the pod today. 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:54.240 It's been an absolute joy speaking to you. Thank you 1:24:54.240 --> 1:24:57.320 for being so open and sharing so much of your 1:24:57.320 --> 1:24:59.280 story but also so much of where you're at now. 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:01.559 It's truly been a pleasure. And can you please tell 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:03.439 everyone where they can find you? 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:07.280 Your Instagram so they can go onto Awake Academy dot 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:10.559 com dot au. They can also find me on LinkedIn, 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:13.840 which is Laane Beachley or Instagram Blaine Beachley or Twitter 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:15.960 Lane Seabeachley. I think it's Twitter. 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:18.040 It's pretty easy to find It's what we're saying. 1:25:18.120 --> 1:25:19.720 Oh yeah, it's really not hard to find me. 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:21.400 Just Google, Yeah, just google me. 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:25.320 You probably find my phone number, but really easy to 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:28.240 find me. And the majority of my content is delivered 1:25:28.240 --> 1:25:30.840 through LinkedIn and Instagram, so just follow me there and 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:32.599 then come and find me Awake Academy. 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.200 Thank you so much to your timeline. 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:36.800 Thank you. Girls. Love it to chat all right. 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:39.760 You know that we never finished an episode without our 1:25:40.000 --> 1:25:42.639 suck and our sweet, our highlight and our low light 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:46.639 of each and every week. Producer, Keisha, you can go first, 1:25:46.800 --> 1:25:47.840 what has been you said? 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:49.400 You have a funny one. What has been your suck. 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:52.599 So my suck is that I mean you are kind 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:56.280 of aware of it. Is that I was really sick 1:25:56.400 --> 1:25:58.960 last week and it was the first time in years 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:02.719 that I can remember. I had been like fully knocked 1:26:02.760 --> 1:26:03.040 on my. 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:05.800 Ass for quite a few days. Have you had COVID yet? 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:08.720 I don't know. I don't think so had all the 1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:11.559 symptoms that didn't test. No, don't talk about these things. 1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:12.320 I didn't test. 1:26:12.439 --> 1:26:14.240 I just think that it would be really hard for 1:26:14.240 --> 1:26:16.240 me to live the lifestyle that I do and not 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:18.160 have had it. So I'm assuming that I've had it 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:19.760 and just been completely asymptomatic. 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:23.080 So it was a week that it like it really 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:23.600 rattled me. 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:26.120 And as it turns out, I've been to the doctors 1:26:26.160 --> 1:26:29.440 and they think that I've picked up an amoeba in Indonesia. 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:30.599 What's an amoeba? 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:35.040 It's a parasite, right, Yeah, So they think that that's 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:37.720 what's going on, and the way that they test that. 1:26:38.280 --> 1:26:41.360 And this is where the funny part comes in because 1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:43.680 it's something that I've never had to do before. And 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:45.800 there are moments in your life where like you're really 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:49.559 humbled by your existence, and one every time I get 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:52.559 a perhaps there is Yeah, this is of the same level, 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:53.160 maybe worse. 1:26:53.640 --> 1:26:57.480 For the first time, I had to do a poop scoop. 1:26:57.880 --> 1:27:02.200 And I had to do a eco sample, which involves 1:27:02.240 --> 1:27:05.559 you pooping onto a little leg picture like a paper bag, 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:08.960 but they're dissolvable, so you line the toilet with this 1:27:09.120 --> 1:27:09.639 paper bag. 1:27:09.760 --> 1:27:12.400 Mouth is wide open. I am in shock that we 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:12.840 got here. 1:27:12.800 --> 1:27:15.960 You go to the bathroom and then you have to 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:20.320 get the little scoopy scoop and collect your own shit 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:23.160 into a little tube. 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:26.400 And then you know what's worse, No, I don't want to. 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:28.479 Know, is that you have to go back to the 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:31.479 place and you are walking around with a bag of 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:38.400 your own until you get a pathology place and drop 1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:41.040 it off in the little collection sample plant. 1:27:42.040 --> 1:27:45.400 Yeah reallymble humbolizing? Is that a word? 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:47.880 I probably not, certainly not one of those moments that 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:50.679 I thought, Wow, no matter how how much you think 1:27:50.720 --> 1:27:53.519 you've matured and progressed in your life, no matter the 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:55.920 successes you have, there's always a poop of scoop that 1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:56.840 can bring you back down. 1:27:57.760 --> 1:27:58.639 No matter what. 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:02.080 Fame and fortune you read in life, You've still got 1:28:02.080 --> 1:28:05.679 to do your own poop scoop. Like even Beyonce she's 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:07.280 not getting her assistant to do that. 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:11.479 I reckon beyond a nah, I reckon Beyonce with an amba, 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:13.799 there'd be someone there to poop the scoop, to scoop 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:14.240 the poop. 1:28:14.880 --> 1:28:17.080 So that was my suck. Wow. 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:20.280 Can I tell you when I was in India, when 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:23.120 I was like very young, I went to India. I've 1:28:23.120 --> 1:28:26.000 got a terrible gut problem. I ended up in hospital 1:28:26.560 --> 1:28:28.280 and I'll never forget when the guy was like, we 1:28:28.320 --> 1:28:30.720 need a sample, and I was like, you don't want that, 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:33.120 and I did it and I handed it to him 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:36.880 and he said, no, not a your own sample, a 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:37.599 still sample. 1:28:37.680 --> 1:28:39.760 And I was like, that's what we're working with. That's 1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:42.120 where we're at. Pal oh stu is the word I 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:43.519 should have been news. That's what that is. 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:46.360 But it is a pretty obvious suck to my existence, 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:47.120 not just my week. 1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:49.280 Okay, Well, I'm very sorry that you brought home more 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:52.040 than you bargained for from Indonesia, and I hope that 1:28:52.080 --> 1:28:53.400 you send it back very soon. 1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:55.840 Thank you, thank you. I do she what is your sweet? 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.839 My sweet for the week is that as an amoeba 1:28:59.000 --> 1:29:01.280 is not contagious. I was allowed back out into the 1:29:01.280 --> 1:29:05.240 wild and some of my friends from high school came 1:29:05.560 --> 1:29:07.720 to Sydney for the weekend, came for one of the 1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:09.880 girl's birthdays, and we got to spend all this time 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:11.760 together and like, they're friends that I don't really get 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.720 to spend that much time with regularly, and we ended 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:16.240 up doing some really cool stuff, like we went to 1:29:16.320 --> 1:29:20.120 some awesome restaurants and we went to the Mulan Route. 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:22.320 I am a sheesh. If you guys haven't seen the 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:24.800 Mulin Rouge, I am. I was like in fucking in love. 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:25.679 I can't even find words. 1:29:25.720 --> 1:29:29.080 I was absolutely sick on it. Produced a Kasha not 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:31.160 so much. She was like, Eh, take it or leave it. 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:33.160 No that I wouldn't say that, but but I will 1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:36.120 admit I'm a massive, massive fan of the theater. 1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:39.000 So I've been to musicals and I loved it. See 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:40.439 I loved it at. 1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:43.519 A time where like throughout COVID and artists, particularly like 1:29:43.600 --> 1:29:48.000 stage performers went through the absolute ringer. And I've got 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:49.479 a couple of friends that are in that industry, and 1:29:49.520 --> 1:29:51.400 I kind of know how hard it has been for 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:53.479 them too, because you know, they because we got in 1:29:53.479 --> 1:29:55.240 and out of lockdown, they kind of came out and 1:29:55.240 --> 1:29:57.280 the productions were back on and then they'd be forced 1:29:57.320 --> 1:29:59.400 out of the productions again, and I know that they're 1:29:59.479 --> 1:30:02.320 really sough with people kind of being like, I can't 1:30:02.320 --> 1:30:05.360 do this anymore, It's not sustainable enough. And so being 1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:08.400 back in the theater again was fucking great. 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:10.439 So what Keisha's saying is that she doesn't want to 1:30:10.439 --> 1:30:12.040 say anything negative because she wants you to all go 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:14.680 and buy Mullin Rooge tickets. But honestly, I think just 1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:17.160 you know what, I actually would say, it wasn't the 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:18.240 best show I've ever seen. 1:30:18.400 --> 1:30:21.800 However, getting to go and see shows is really great. 1:30:21.800 --> 1:30:24.479 It's like I forgot that newfound of appreciation of it 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:26.280 because we missed out on it for so long, And 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:27.559 so are we looking like? 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:30.280 There are a lot of shows on that are not 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:31.439 as big as the Muln Route. 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:33.640 Speaking of shows, also, there is a live show that 1:30:33.680 --> 1:30:34.720 you should have gone book tickets to. 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:36.120 I think it's called Life on Cut. 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:39.040 Yeah, yes, it is at the cityous Atole All in Sydney, 1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:41.519 one thousand, two hundred seats. There's still some left like 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:43.519 go by tickets. It's gonna be the best fucking show. 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:46.280 That'll be my speak for that week, So what is 1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:47.080 your suck? 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:50.639 So my suck for the week, unfortunately, also centers around Pooh, 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:52.120 but slightly different. 1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:54.280 So we went away for a wedding. 1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:56.960 My mum and actually a couple of my really good 1:30:57.000 --> 1:30:58.560 friends took care of the girls. But then on the 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:01.479 day that we were arriving back, my and my stepdad Neil, 1:31:01.560 --> 1:31:04.559 came up and they took the kids, and so there 1:31:04.600 --> 1:31:07.120 was a lot of people in a very small house. 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:10.400 My sister and my nephew had also come over, and 1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:12.880 my niece, so there was like seven people. 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:14.120 Eight people. I can't get crazy. 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:16.720 There was a lot of people in the house, a 1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:19.200 lot of yelling, a lot of stuff happening, And I 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:21.559 was like, can we just put the kids outside, like, 1:31:21.840 --> 1:31:24.160 put the four kids outside, just to try and bring 1:31:24.200 --> 1:31:25.320 this energy down a little bit. 1:31:25.720 --> 1:31:26.160 So we did. 1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:28.519 We chucked the kids outside. The energy came down and. 1:31:28.439 --> 1:31:29.599 Shut the door, locked the door. 1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:33.200 Unfortunately, we left the door open. That was the problem. 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:36.400 Left the door open, pushed the kids outside. I was like, cool, 1:31:36.640 --> 1:31:39.120 the energy was coming down. Everyone was feeling better for it. 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:41.559 The kids were coming back and forth inside and outside. 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:44.160 Molly was making potions and then I could smell something 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:46.080 and I was like, what the what stinks? 1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:47.599 Something in our house stinks. 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:52.000 Then I realized that three of the four children had 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:56.080 walked through dog shit and had been walking it through 1:31:56.160 --> 1:31:59.800 my house, just in and out and in and out. Ummy, 1:31:59.840 --> 1:32:01.559 looks this potion in and out. 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:05.920 And there was a thoroughfare of dog shit footsteps all 1:32:05.960 --> 1:32:07.880 the way down the hallway. Have you ever seen that 1:32:07.920 --> 1:32:10.439 picture that went viral of the you know, the robot 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:14.439 vacuum that went through the dog shit. I'm picturing that 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:17.400 but in children form, like back and forth, back and forth. 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:19.120 That is my idea of a horror story because so 1:32:19.160 --> 1:32:21.799 many people send it to me because I'm so obsessed 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:23.560 with my robot vauum cleaner, which if you call me 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:24.480 an Instagram. 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:26.559 Sweet, is it the sweet that you just got the 1:32:26.680 --> 1:32:28.400 robot vacuum ount to clean up where the kids? 1:32:29.360 --> 1:32:29.559 No? 1:32:29.720 --> 1:32:32.719 Because I see, look, it's too technical. You can't actually 1:32:32.760 --> 1:32:35.120 just set a roomba across dog shit because it won't 1:32:35.120 --> 1:32:37.120 actually clean up the dog shit or just mop up. 1:32:37.160 --> 1:32:39.439 It'll just put dog poo on the pads and then 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:40.880 put those pads all around the house. 1:32:41.360 --> 1:32:44.559 Ah, because it doesn't change the pads. Right, Okay, this 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:46.800 is a lot about robot vackum. I think you know 1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:49.000 what it needs to become more intelligent. It's not up 1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:50.040 to status yet. 1:32:49.880 --> 1:32:52.080 I agree wholeheartedly. Okay. 1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:53.920 Most sweet for the week though, is that we went 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.040 to a wedding. We went to Brisbane. We got to 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:58.719 see all of MAT's family. There's like the best, lovely, 1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:02.000 wonderful people. I forced Matt and to dancing with me, 1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:04.760 and then I also convinced him to have sex with me, 1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:07.080 not against his will. He was very willing, just a 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:09.559 little bit drunk, and then that was it. We had 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:11.599 a really it was our first night ever away from 1:33:11.600 --> 1:33:14.680 the kids together. We have never ever, ever Matt and 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:17.280 I had a night away from the children together. There's 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:19.800 always been one of us or the other, but never 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:22.479 two people away from the children entirely. 1:33:22.600 --> 1:33:25.800 How did that fit? Will you be anxious? Freeing? It 1:33:25.840 --> 1:33:28.160 was good like you felt good? Yes, I will do 1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:31.000 it again. Great, all right? You will not be putting 1:33:31.000 --> 1:33:34.000 them in my care I know ever. 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