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Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud Order

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Speaker 1: Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before we

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Speaker 1: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would

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Speaker 1: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of

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Speaker 1: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging

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Speaker 1: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through

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Speaker 1: as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and

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Speaker 1: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today

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Speaker 1: and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money Podcast. Millennials

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Speaker 4: who want financial freedom. Even if you don't have a

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Speaker 4: Netflix account, you have probably already heard of America's Sweethearts

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. It's the number one series in Australia

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Speaker 4: right now and has been for a while.

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Speaker 2: The show follows the lives.

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Speaker 4: And the progress of new cheerleading recruits for the American

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Speaker 4: football team, the Dallas Cowboys, and it's got a lot

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Speaker 4: of people talking. Despite having their fair share of controversy

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Speaker 4: from sexual assault to age theft. They've had some of

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Speaker 4: the biggest scandals in the cheerleading industry. And despite being

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Speaker 4: exposed to the sexist, misogynistic, outdated, and highly problematic world

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Speaker 4: of the elite cheerleading organization that Dallas Cowboys is, it

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Speaker 4: honestly does set out to do exactly what it sets

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Speaker 4: out to do, sharing the emotions, the challenges and successes

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Speaker 4: of the industry. But for me, it brought up so

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Speaker 4: many infuriating thoughts and I'm here to have a chat

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Speaker 4: about why. So let's have a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: And I don't think anyone is going to be surprised

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Speaker 4: that they're financial. They are incredibly talented, and these women

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Speaker 4: are at the very top of their industry. They have trained,

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Speaker 4: arguably their entire lives to earn minimum wage. Firstly, these

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Speaker 4: women are not paid what they are deserving of by

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Speaker 4: any stretch of the imagination. In fact, Kat on the

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Speaker 4: show If You Know You Know, said in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: around twenty five grand year in America, which is about

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Speaker 4: thirty five thousand dollars Australian, which is absolutely disgraceful. The

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable football team in American football,

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Speaker 4: with a net worth of wait for it, nine billion

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Speaker 4: Let that sink in. Their cheerleaders are paid less than

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Speaker 4: The football team and people behind the scenes are millionaires

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Speaker 4: more than fifty million dollars a year, yet they're not

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Speaker 4: reported to be sixty five thousand dollars, more than double

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Speaker 4: what the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are making. These women dedicate

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Speaker 4: their entire lives to dance education, including spending thousands on

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Speaker 4: the DCC's low salaries, all the chief brand officer, Charlotte

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Speaker 2: Are you guys for real?

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Speaker 4: It wasn't until nineteen seventy four that women could get

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Speaker 4: We learned from the first episode that these women are incredible,

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Speaker 4: having to undergo both physically and mentally challenging training and

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Speaker 4: So ten out of ten for the Swifty culture, but

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Speaker 4: them on the telly. Let's go to a really quick break,

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Speaker 4: because if you thought that my rant was over, my friend,

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Speaker 4: So that makes sense, like, obviously they are not there

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Speaker 4: She not only had to undergo one giant surgery, she

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Speaker 4: the expectation that these women have to do their jobs

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Speaker 4: when they fall short. Excuse me, but this is her

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Speaker 4: I've ranted far too much. But the fact that the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys cheerleader team has not changed since nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: But I will wrap it.

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Speaker 4: Up there because enough is enough. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching that show. I love a bit of drama.

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Speaker 4: that while the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders show has been fantastic

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Speaker 2: As a whole. So guys, have a good Saturday.

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