1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to How I Work, a show about the tactics 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: used by the world's most successful people to get so 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: much out of their day. I'm your host, doctor Amantha Imba. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm an organizational psychologist, the founder of behavioral science consultancy Inventium, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with finding ways to optimize my work day. 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: In today's show, I've been mentioning that I'm looking for 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: listener questions and I've been getting some really awesome ones. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: So today's show is dedicated to answering a listener question 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: that comes from Rosie. Rosie is clearly someone that is 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: very passionate about her work, and her question to me 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: was how do you approach yourself when you get too 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: excited about work? So, Rosie and maybe other people that 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: might have this challenge, I want to share with you 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: how I think about work and boundaries and also trying 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: to have time to chill as well. So firstly, and 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: this is probably obvious to regular listeners of the show, 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I find it really hard to switch off. So something 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I talk about on the show and with clients is 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: having boot up and shut down rituals. So having a 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: boot up ritual to start your day something that kind 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of gets your brain into gear and for me kind 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: of gets me on a deep work sprint, starts my 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: day productively and proactively rather than reactively checking emails. And 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: then I also talk a lot about having a shutdown ritual, 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: and these are two really important things, particularly for those 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: of you that are working from home where it's really 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: easy for the boundaries to blur. So for me personally, 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with my morning routine. Typically what that 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: looks like is, well, the very first thing I do 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: is I will generally do a workout in my home gym, 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: and then if I've got my daughter Frankie with me, 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: we will do a few fun things in the morning 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: until school of virtual school starts. And if I don't 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: have Frankie, I'll typically start work a little bit earlier. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: So I make myself a hot beverage, which might be 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: a decaf or a caffeinated coffee, and I will look 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: at my calendar because I time box my deep work, 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: so I literally make meetings with myself in terms of 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: what are the deep work tasks that I'm going to do, 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: and I simply get on with it. So that is 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: typically my boot up routine in terms of shutting down 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: my day. I sometimes do this. I sometimes do a 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: couple of minute exercise where I reflect on what if 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: I made progress on and what are the biggest things 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: that I want to focus on the next day. But 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: often I'm a little bit messy in my shutdown, and 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't shut down, and I kind of work on 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: and off because there is always something to do, so 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily reckon mend it, but that is just 50 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: what I tend to do now. Something that I found 51 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: really helpful to balancing me out is that Inventium are 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: currently trialing a four day week where basically we call 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: it Gift of the Fifth. So if we can get 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: our work done in four normal workdays, we get the 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: gift of time on Friday and we take Friday off, 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: which has been really useful for me in having four 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: really focused and productive days from Monday to Thursday and 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of forcing myself to decompress on Friday. So how 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: that works for me in practice is I do often 60 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: do a little bit of work on Friday, to be honest, 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: but it's generally deep work and work that I'm really 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: excited about. So I try to limit that though, to 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: one or two hours and it's generally worked for the podcast, 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: I find because it tends to get pushed to the 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: side during the week when I'm focusing on inventing and 66 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: work and client work. But what I also found when 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I started having Fridays off is I was just keen 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: to sync my teeth into something else. So I created 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: a passion project with my closest girlfriend, Monique, and we 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: launched a podcast called How to Date, which is, in 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, a super fun podcast that goes into very 72 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: practical advice on how to get better at dating, which 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: is something that I'm doing in my early forties because 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I am a bit over a year out of my marriage. 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: So we interview all sorts of experts from around the 76 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: world to get really interesting advice. So if you are 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: single and looking for advice, you might want to check 78 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: out How to Date. But I find that I will 79 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: work on my passion project on for Fridays. Now. Another 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: thing I think about is I have my daughter Frankie 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: with me fifty percent of the time, and I try 82 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: to be really strict about not working on weekends when 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: I have Frankie with me. It's just sort of a 84 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: bit of a rule that I have if there is 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: something like an exception to that rule, like I have 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: to do a podcast edit because I'm on a deadline. 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I try to involve her. Not that she's particularly interested 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: in how I work content, but she's somewhat interested in 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: hearing her mother talk I'm all. Also, the final thing 90 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: is I'm very fussy in how I spend my downtime. 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I try to do quality things, and I try to 92 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: schedule things. So in my friendship group, I am the 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: one that plans and organizes and proactively suggests things and 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: put things in the diary, even phone chats, because I 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: find my friends are busy, even though where a lot 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: of us are in lockdown, although slowly emerging out of it. 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: I'll even book in phone chats in the evening because 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: that is something that I find very very enriching, connecting 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: with my friends and doing other things for downtime. So, Rosie, 100 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: I hope that has provided some kind of a useful 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: answer to your question. Thank you so much for sending 102 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: that in. If you list and you have a question 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: for me that you'd like to get my perspective on, 104 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: or for some questions, I will certainly dig into the 105 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: research as well. Please send that through to Amantha at 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Inbentium dot com dot au, and my email address is 107 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: always in the show notes as well. So thank you 108 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: for listening if you found it useful. If you know 109 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: someone who maybe is having a bit of trouble switching off, 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: maybe share this episode with them if you think they'd 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: find it useful. And if you're enjoying how I work, 112 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I'd love you to leave a review in Apple Podcasts. 113 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: And thank you to all the super awesome and amazing 114 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: brilliant people who have done that over the two years 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: that this show has been around. That is it for 116 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: today and I will see you next time.