1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Torber and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Amy 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: and Sophie. On today's show, Martha and Michael announced their 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: moving overseas, Danny Mancudi reveals her new business venture, Influencer 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Free App explodes in popularity, Anna Paul's expensive grocery shop, 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: and Elon Musk becomes King of Twitter. But first, have 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: you guys ever received a text from a friend and 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: thought to yourself, Wow, that's way too much information? Because 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Michael Finch went through in his latest 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: YouTube video when he shared the types of messages he 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: receives from good friend Sky Wheatley. Sophie, How did this 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: all come about? Well, Michael was doing a whole of 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: his grocery shop when he was interrupted by a text 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: message from his friend Sky Wheatley, and I do not 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: think I can do this text message justice. So let's 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: throw to the clip the raw recipes. 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Who the fuck Sky shut? I'm so constipated baby. Yesday 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: I had to pull out poo with my hand like 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: my ring was stretched to the Mars. It was so painful. Well, 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: stop eating so much shit down. 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry if anyone is eating breakfast bol's listening 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: to this. But this absolutely cracked me up. I love 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: that Michael gave absolutely no disclaimer after the text message 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: was read, the video just continued. I think that's like 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: a real insight into what it's like being friends with 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley, though that you would just think that that 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: behavior was normal. I feel like I have to give 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: context to sky Wheatley's text message because she was sharing 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: with her followers that she couldn't stop eating lollies and chocolate, 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and it was quite ironic timing because Michael was filming 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: a video where he was detoxing and only eating raw foods, 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: so I felt like he was really fed up with her. Yeah, 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I feel like when you're eating healthy, you can be 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: quite judgmental to others, and you know how good you 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: feel when you do start exercising and eating good foods, 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: So I can totally get how he would have felt 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: when he capped this message. I also really felt for 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Michael during this video because it was entitled feeling like 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: a failure, and he said that for the past two 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: months he hasn't been eating well and that he noticed 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: himself putting on wade. He then continued by saying he 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go down that path again, as it 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: makes him feel like shit. And I personally think Michael 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: looks incredible at the moment, and he's transformed so much 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: over these past few years. But I can definitely tell 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: why this text message would have bugged him from Sky. 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Have you guys ever received a text message like this before? 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: That's just way too much? I think probably only from 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: you guys. I feel like we tell each other everything. 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I personally have never received something like this from a friend. 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: I know my boyfriend sometimes gets snapchats of his friend's poos, 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: which is disgusting. That's taking it to a next level, 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: but I think that's more of a boy thing. The 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: message that I received most recently that was too much 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: information was when Amy had a more removed on her 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: back and she decided to send me a photo of 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: it after it being sliced off. That was disgusting. What 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: about family dinner last night? We'd literally just finished our meals. 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh does everyone want to see my back? At least? 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I ask no, why would we want to see it? 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Though I don't understand it. Girl like it, kay. I 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: won't even go on about the it's more TMI phone 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: calls that I get from UK. I think a phone 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: call is different, though I think putting it into writing 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: is worse when people can actually then reread it later on. 67 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Imagine if you accidentally sent that to somebody really important 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: in your life, like a boss or something. 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: Oh. 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I saw a story recently when a guy accidentally sent 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: it was he was going for his dream job and 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: he sent over what he thought was his resume, but 73 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: it was actually his latest STI check. Oh my god. Well, 74 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: going back to this guy's text, it was pretty funny 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: because later in the video, Michael went off on this 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: rant about how he's so sick of getting annoying text messages. 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: Here's what he said, Oh my god, if one one 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: person texts me today like just an annoying text, that's 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: just annoying, I'm going to fucking blow the fuck up 80 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: and just say could you fuck off? Like I just can't. 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: I can't deal with the stupid, stupid questions, shut up, 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: google it, fuck me. 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Does anyone else think that this is directed at Sky 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: considering the timing of him sharing that gross message that 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: she sent. Oh, I think it is completely directed at her, 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: particularly when he said why don't you just google it? 87 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I feel like she would send some pretty interesting questions 88 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: over and I think it's a valid point. I hate 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: when people ask questions that they could easily figure out themselves. Sophie, 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: that is so hypocritical, because I always get these like 91 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: really annoying text messages from you, going on and on. 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: You are the most annoying person over text over, especially 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: because he worked together. I remember one morning receiving forty 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: text messages from you, and it's because I have to 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: constantly remind you to do things. You're quite relentless. But no, 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: it's more that you asked me a question that you 97 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: can actually google. Or like the other night, poor Sophie 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: had to take Archie to the vet to her dog 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: because she thought he ate a grape, but in natural fact, 100 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: he just stood next to a grape. Just one copy 101 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: messages like one point thirty in the morning about it, 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the hell are emotional messages? They're 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: emotional messages, not asking the bleeding obvious. 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh, for fuck sake, are you out of your fucking mind? 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: Woman? 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: Fuck out? 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Of the fucking way people are stupid. 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: After announcing she was taking a step back from influencing, 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Danny Mansuti has revealed her latest business venture, Sophie, Can 110 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: you tell us more? 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: Well? 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: Danny has launched what she labeled a sustainable, slow fashion 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: brand called four elevens And for those who are interested 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: in the story behind the name. In numerology, the numbers 115 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: eleven eleven are linked to chance or coincidence. So often 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: people claim when you see eleven eleven on a clock, 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: it is a sign from a spiritual presence. Gosh, I 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: was always seeing eleven eleven A couple of months back. 119 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: I kept saying it on my phone all the time. 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: I actually thought you were meant to make a wish, 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: so I always made a wish. I feel like it's 122 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: such a basic bitch thing. Oh the eleven eleven on 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the clock, Oh my god. I just said, oh my god, 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: it's literally eleven eleven am. Now we're recording that is 125 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: that is a now to make the announcement, Danny shared 126 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: a reel on her Instagram showing her behind the scenes 127 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: journey of creating a sustainable brand, and in the video, 128 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Danny outlined that she researched sustainable supplies and invested in 129 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: an embroidery machine. She said she spent months teaching herself 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: how to digitalize her designs and embroider Now, Danny appears 131 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to have ticked all of the boxes when it comes 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: to sustainability, as she says that the materials are sustainably sourced. 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: She says it includes no plastic waste and the clothes 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: come in one hundred percent recycled packaging. Now, some of 135 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: the slogans on the shirts cracked me up. It says 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: no more overthinking you deserve love in a silly goofy 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: mood and you look great like it's very it's very 138 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: positive quotes. They're pretty cute quotes. I mean, I don't 139 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: know if I would want to walk around personally in 140 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: these quotes, but anyway, well they're very much of the time. 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of stuff with that sort of 142 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: thing at like cotton on at the moment. Now, the 143 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: brand is launching on Monday, the second of May, and 144 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: it's unclear yet how expensive the pieces will be. A 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: few months ago, influencer Brook Hogan received backlash online when 146 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: she launched an environmentally friendly swimwear line called Lemon. She 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: copped pretty unjustified heat for selling us so wrong for 148 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. What do you guys think of influence 149 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: as moving into the slow fashion space. I think it 150 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: is a really positive move if the fashion is actually 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: considered slow and sustainable. I would hate to think that 152 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: people were just using it as a marketing ploy, but 153 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I do think that there is a case when this 154 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: does happen and people inflate how good the product actually 155 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: is for the environment. I mean, you see it with 156 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: companies claiming that their carbon neutral and then you find 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: out that they actually purchased this title and that they 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: actually don't do anything for the environment. So I think 159 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of loopholes around this sort 160 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: of practice. Well, I think it's a really positive move 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: from Danny because she has spoken about how she wants 162 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: to move away from the influencers scene, and it seems 163 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: like the influencer space has been really detrimental to her 164 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: mental health, and I applaud her for going and doing 165 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: something different and starting a business. It's kind of similar 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: to when Mitch Orville left influencing to start a takeaway store, 167 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: But is it really different because we see so many 168 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: influencers using their following to flog off activewear and loungewear, 169 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: So while it may be a little bit more sustainable, 170 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: it's still really the same thing that we're used to seeing. 171 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because she could be accepting heaps 172 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: of deals with fast fashion brands and be making a 173 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: lot more money for a lot less time, and I 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: don't think she's got the appeal anymore. She disappeared off 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: social media for probably about six months to a year. 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: She was very controversial, so I don't think that the 177 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: deals would be rolling in. Yeah, but she still has 178 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: a large following. I don't agree. I feel like there 179 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: would be people wanting to partner with her. I also 180 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: feel like it's a bit damned if you do, damned 181 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: if you don't. If she'd launched something and hadn't said 182 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: it was sustainable, people would have said, oh, why aren't 183 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: you doing sustainable clothes, And now that she has it 184 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: seems like people are trying to pick fault with it 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, because a number of followers did question 186 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: where the clothing was sourced from, and Danny replied saying, 187 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: we have a full page about this on our website, 188 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: which will be live when we launch, And I mean 189 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: I do find it a bit peculiar that influencers launch 190 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: or announce that they're launching a product before their website 191 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: is up and running, particularly when you ask, you know, 192 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: making claims that it is sustainable. I mean, I think 193 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: my gut feeling is that in this day and age 194 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: where people are quite critical of what influence has put 195 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: out there, I think they will be wanting to cross 196 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: their t's and dot their i's in this scenario and 197 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: be making sure that the clothing is sourced from the 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: right sort of place. So are you suggesting that she 199 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: should have had all of this information ready to go 200 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: before it made the announcement. Well, I also find it 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: weird from a pr perspective, because you get people excited 202 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: only God, I've launched this thing people want to buy. 203 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Then I feel like people don't want to wait a week. 204 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I do think there is a posit in taking people 205 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: along on the journey, and I think it's been great 206 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: her sharing photos of her actually embroidering the clothes. It 207 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: adds a little bit of validity to what she's doing. 208 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Do you guys just think though that she has told 209 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: people we will be putting more information up on the 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: website because she doesn't want to get into it on 211 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: social media. I don't think so. I think it's too 212 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: difficult to explain in a quick message back from someone. 213 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: I just think she should have had those details up 214 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: there to begin with. Not really, well, this is where 215 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: we source the clothing from. This is you know, it's 216 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: not that hard to explain. It's hard if you've got 217 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: to explain into every single person. I think it's easier 218 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: for her to say the messages will be on our website, 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what she's done. But it's not published yet, 220 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: so it sounds like a bit of a cop out. 221 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: I think it's not hard to have one media line 222 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: copy and paste it from your note section. Surely that 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: would make it look a little bit transparent. Well, I 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: just think, as Amy said earlier, influences are damned if 225 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: they do, damned if they don't. I think that this 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: is quite a positive move for Danny and something that 227 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: people should be congratulating her about. She clearly is trying 228 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: to take a move in the right direction, and I 229 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: think her jumpers look pretty cute. Let's not forget though, 230 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: this is a lucrative move for Danny, and it does 231 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: show that she is trying to jump back into the 232 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: influencing space because while she's gone MIA for a while, 233 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: let's not forget that she actually has to harness her 234 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: followers and her influence to be able to sell her 235 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: new products. So I think we're going to be seeing 236 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: a little bit more from her, and she's going to 237 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: have to be more active on her social channels in 238 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: order for this to be a success. Yeah, but I 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: think it will be different because it won't be her 240 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: going into her personal life. It will be her more 241 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur. She has stated that she is handmaking 242 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: all of these jumpers, so I mean I think she 243 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: will be quite busy on the production line doing that. 244 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: We're going to go to the most expensive grocery shop 245 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: in America with the Kardashian Shop, Haley Foever, Miley Cyrus 246 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: and let's see what they have and how much it costs. 247 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: Anna Paul has given her TikTok followers and insight into 248 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the lives of the rich and famous whilst visiting the 249 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: most expensive grocery store in the US. Amy, Apart from 250 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: the price, I wish this was local store because it 251 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: was such an epic setup. It really is. So this 252 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: week Anna went to air One Market in La which 253 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: is a luxury soupermarket chain favored by celebrities like the Kardashians, 254 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus and Hailey Bieber. And during the height of 255 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: the pandemic, this became the place to be seen. There 256 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: were so many celebrities who went in, of course, because 257 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: there was nowhere really else to go, So there was 258 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities being papped at the soupermarket. And 259 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: in recent times the luxury supermarket has gained popularity on TikTok, 260 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: with viral videos showing TikTok users going celebrity hunting in 261 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: the store. I feel like you couldn't go with your 262 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: regular trackie decks onto this supermarket. It would be a 263 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: bit of a fashion preyed along the aisles, exactly right. 264 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: And this store is so popular because it focuses on niche, 265 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: locally produced products. So it has raw, vegan, organic, kito 266 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and kosher foods, and it caters for all other alternative diets. 267 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: And the store is beautifully set out. It's got fresh 268 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: fruit and veggies all presented in a very aesthetically pleasing way. 269 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: They have a smoothie and coffee bar as well as 270 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: a buffet, and they even have a wood oven pizza 271 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: bar set up in the store. There's also a huge 272 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: soup bar which has suggestions above of bread that goes 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: with the soup, and there's also a fresh sushi section 274 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: and the most amazing looking salads which have the salad 275 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: dressing accompanying them in a glass bottle. Now, are these 276 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: the salads that the Kardashians are famous for eating, because 277 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: they all know, Nah, it's a different store that has 278 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: the salads. Do you know what annoys me about this 279 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: whole thing is that it sounds so amazing and it 280 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: would be the best place to drop in and get lunch. 281 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: But all of these celebrities probably have their own chefs 282 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: that are making this amazing food for them. Anyway, it 283 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: seems lost on them. It is. Well, Anna wanted to 284 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: show her followers just how expensive the store is, so 285 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: she took users around on her TikTok and she bought 286 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: some snacks for her road trip, and she ended up 287 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: buying two bags of groceries and I couldn't believe it. 288 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: It ended up costing her three hundred and fifty Australian 289 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: dollars and literally all she bought was some fresh fruit, 290 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: a couple of wraps as smoothie, and some bags of chips. 291 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: That's surprising because I thought food was meant to be 292 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: a little bit cheaper in America than it is in Australia. 293 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: My luxury grocery store. Yeah, I know, but that seems 294 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of inflation. It reminds me of when 295 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Reese and I went to the Pasadena food Land. Now, 296 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: if anyone in Adelaide knows, it's literally the best supermarket 297 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: in Adelaide. It's not as fancy as this La One, 298 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: but it's pretty bloody cool. It's got a cafe insider, 299 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: there's a guy that wears a suit when he serves 300 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: you like meats and seafood. It's pretty cool. And we 301 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: went there and ordered a few things and we were 302 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: thinking this would be our local supermarket. But it literally 303 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: cost one hundred bucks for like three things, so we 304 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: haven't been back since. Well, that was pretty cheap compared 305 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: to what Anna paid because she went into some of 306 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: the individual items and there was this delicious looking juice 307 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: that she got, but it was twenty five Australian dollars 308 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: and she also paid twenty Australian dollars for literally a 309 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: tiny punnet of pomegranates. I did conclude that it's really 310 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: not worth going to air On to do your regular 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: grocery shop, but she did say it is good if 312 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: you are looking for something specific that other stores don't stock. 313 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: You know what this grocery store clearly does is they 314 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: just put a fucking idiot tax on top of anything, like, 315 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: let's make this super expensive because everyone in this area 316 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: wants to be seen here and they have the money 317 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to pay for tracks. Yeah. The only good thing about 318 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: the soup market though, was that they had you know, 319 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: when you go into a normal soupmarket and they give 320 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of cheese. They literally had cans of 321 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: drink that you could take as testers. Really, yeah, that's 322 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: worth the inflated price. Can you imagine the regular people 323 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: on the street just going in to get some of 324 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: the free testers. I reckon they would have a rule 325 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: that you have to buy something though before you leave. Well, 326 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: I wondered if it was a bit like Costco and 327 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: you had to have a membership to go in, but 328 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: you don't if everybody can go in there and as 329 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: I said, people on TikTok are now going in their droves, 330 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: and there's heaps of YouTube videos of people going in there, 331 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and every time they go in, everybody spots a celebrity. 332 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I want to go there, entire Channel four News team. 333 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm Veronica Corningstone and I'm Ron Burgundy. Go for Yourself, 334 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: San Diego, a new social media app which promotes itself 335 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: as an influencer free Space, is quickly gaining popularity with 336 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: gen zettters. The b Real app has been described as 337 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: an authentic, unfiltered alternative to Instagram and YouTube. Sophie, can 338 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: you tell us more about the app? 339 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: Well? 340 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: Be Real is a French app founded by former go 341 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: pro employee Alexis Barriette in January twenty twenty. Now how 342 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: it works is each day you get a notification saying 343 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: it's time to be real. The app then gives you 344 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: two minutes to take a photo of exactly what you're 345 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: doing at that very moment. Now, this notification pops up 346 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: at random times during the day, so you'd hate to 347 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: be on the toilet when you get this notification. I mean, 348 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be taking photos of yourself doing pretty everyday. 349 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: Things like cooking dinner or going for a walk. And 350 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: it sounds pretty crazy to me because when you take 351 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: the photo, it snaps a photo from both your front 352 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: and back facing cameras. I don't like the sound of this. 353 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: And you know what's really scary is it forces you 354 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: to take the photo within two minutes. So basically you'll 355 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: get a notification that it's time to take a photo, 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: and then when you click on the notification, a self 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: timer pops up and you're prompted to take the photo. 358 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: You do have one chance to do a retake before 359 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: it is shared to your friends, but it happens if 360 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: you're at work and you're in a meeting. Yeah, oh sorry, 361 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: hang out, I'm just going to take this selfie. Could 362 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: you just wait one? And sounds like a personal nightmare. Okay, 363 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: and think of it. It doesn't just take it like 364 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: you couldn't just point it at your computer because it 365 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: then snaps a photo of you behind the camera too. 366 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Now you do have the option though, 367 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: of sharing it just with your friends, or you can 368 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: share the photo publicly. And the kicker is there is 369 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: no retouching allowed on the photo, so there's no filters 370 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: or anything like that that you could that you find 371 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Look, I don't think any filter can really 372 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: fix some of those. You know, when you accidently flip 373 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: Snapchat camera on and it's on you and you're just 374 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: horrified of what you see. I just can't imagine that 375 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: that is what the feed is full of. Is it 376 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: just me? Or is the Snapchat camera the most unflattering camera? 377 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Because sometimes you'll see yourself on the normal camera and 378 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, yeah, I mean I don't look great, 379 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: but it's not horrifying. But I'll click on Snapchat and 380 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I actually look like that. 381 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: I think the light maybe I think it's the lighting 382 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: as well. It seems grainier, but a bit like Snapchat. 383 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: Be Real has a map feature so you can see 384 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: where your friends are when they post their photo. However, 385 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: it's not really an app if you want to stalk 386 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: someone because every time you use someone's photo, you then 387 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: have to post your own. What. Yeah, this sounds like 388 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: the worst app ever, I'm sorry to this guy who's created. No, 389 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: everybody's loving it because I think what I personally love 390 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: about the app, and this is in the app's description. 391 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: It says, if you want to be a famous influencer, 392 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: you can stay on TikTok and Instagram. Because they're saying 393 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: this app is not for you, this is actually just 394 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: an app for your close friends. Because I was thinking about, 395 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: oh god, it's interest. Why would you Why would I 396 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: want to see a random photo during the day of 397 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: my friend on their computer, some like double chin shot. 398 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Why would I want to see that? I was thinking, 399 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: I want to set one up with you guys and 400 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: our cousins because it would be funny. It's funny, something's real. 401 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is that social media is 402 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: trying to be more authentic, and people love authenticity. And 403 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: you know what's more real than just having no time 404 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: to actually set up a photo. You're showing what you're 405 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: actually really doing, the mundane tasks that everyone does. I 406 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: feel like this should have been invented by a woman, 407 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: because I feel like this is almost an app to 408 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: catch out your boyfriend, you know what I mean, Like 409 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: it could be taking any time. What are they doing, 410 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: where are they, who are they with? You know what 411 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: it is. It's kind of taking social media back to 412 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: its roots what it's meant to be. You interacting with 413 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: your friends, not you being pushed deals on Instagram or 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: following fake people's lives. It's surely it's actually meant to 415 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: be bringing back the authentic of social media. And it 416 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me a little bit of Snapchat because 417 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: you kind of just use Snapchat to communicate with your friends, 418 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: you don't send glamorous photos, So this is kind of 419 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: what it's doing now. The media have been quick to 420 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: pick up on the app skyrocketing user numbers, which have 421 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: added to the hype of be Real, and this year 422 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: the app's users have increased by more than three hundred 423 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: and fifteen percent, with the main demographic being UNI students. 424 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I find it funny when businesses say, oh, it increased 425 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: by three hundred and fifteen percent. Is that because literally 426 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: no one followed the year before? I know, they actually 427 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: did do pretty well in twenty twenty and in twenty 428 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: twenty one. However, when you delve deeper into these numbers, 429 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: it gets very interesting because there has been recent reports 430 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: that suggests be real may have been responsible for manufacturing 431 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: some of its growth through paid referrals. So on b 432 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: Reel's website, it lists information about its ambassador program for 433 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: US college students. It says, we're building a team of 434 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: college students to back the b real mission and support 435 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: our growth. If you're entrepreneurial, motivated, and well connected, we 436 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: would love for you to apply to our college program. 437 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Be Real College Ambassadors host parties, manager marketing, budget, identify 438 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: key moments on campus for us to get involved, represent 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: b Reel's mission, and execute creative activations. Aren't these different 440 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: types of influences then well, it says, our ambassadors get 441 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: to be part of the next Unicorn startup, receive mentorship 442 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: from our global team of experienced entrepreneurs, and enjoy great pay. 443 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: So there have been reports that students are paid thirty 444 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: dollars per referral and fifty dollars for an app download 445 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: with a review. And it's clear why be reel has 446 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: gained so much popularity because obviously it's paying for referrals. 447 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: But it was able to splash the cash because the 448 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: founders were able to raise thirty million dollars last year 449 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: for the app. How just from investorsyeh, from investors in 450 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: funding there talking about this ambassador program. Has anyone seeing 451 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: the Abercrombie doco on Netflix? 452 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: No? 453 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: I really want to see it though, watch it it's 454 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: truly good. They talk about their ambassador program because they 455 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: enlisted the help of very good looking and popular college 456 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: students to start wearing Abercrombie, so it is interesting. 457 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: Now. 458 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: This is a strategy that has been used by a 459 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of apps, and it's obviously working for be real 460 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: because currently they have two point nine to three million 461 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: daily active users. And from a pr perspective, it's very 462 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: clever because journalists love stats, so lots of publications are 463 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: picking up on this story, which adds to the hype 464 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: and it creates further downloads for be Real, and I 465 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: actually don't have a problem with it. However, I do 466 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: have a problem with the fact that they're actually paying 467 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: for reviews, and I think it's going a bit too 468 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: far because at the moment, be Reel has four point 469 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: eight stars on Apple with over twenty two thousand reviews, 470 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: so if all of those reviews were paid for, it 471 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: would have cost the app one point one million dollars. 472 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: I cannot see this app taking off at all. It 473 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: sounds hideous to me. It's probably got a bit of 474 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: shock value and you might use it once or twice, 475 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's going to have the longevity 476 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: of other apps like Instagram and TikTok. It is interesting though, 477 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: because there was an article in the Sydney Telegraph about 478 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: the app which quoted behavioral psychologists Brad write it and 479 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: he said, for the past few years, people have been 480 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: striving for perfection in every post, and Instagram has encouraged this. 481 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: But perfection is the enemy of happiness, so an app 482 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: like be Real is reflecting the pendulum swinging back away 483 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: from perfectionism and towards authenticity. He also pointed out that 484 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: authenticity happens when people feel comfortable enough to be themselves, 485 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: and this is fostered when someone has a smaller circle 486 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: of connections on the platform. The psychologists also revealed that 487 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: there's a connection between instances of depression and the number 488 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: of strangers users follow on Instagram because influencers and celebrities 489 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: give followers the distorted views on life. So with all 490 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that in mind, it will be interesting to see if 491 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: it does take off. But I just think it's so 492 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: different to what we're used to on social media that, 493 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: as I agree with you, Sophie, I don't know if 494 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: it will see. I think that this app does have 495 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: the potential to take off because people are getting sick 496 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: of influencer culture, and the fact that this is offering 497 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: an influence of free space is pretty appealing to me. 498 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: And I do think we are going back to social 499 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: media's routs where we only really want to see stuff 500 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: from our friends. Because we recently saw Instagram change the 501 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: feed features so you can choose what friends you want 502 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: to follow, I feel like this is a new trend 503 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: that is happening amongst social media. I completely disagree. You 504 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: look at kids these days, the number one job they 505 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: want to do is an influencer. A lot of young 506 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: people only use social media because they want to try 507 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: and make a job out of it or want to 508 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: be creative on there. I don't think sending an ugly 509 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: photo of yourself around to people is really going to 510 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: catch on. I mean, but all for making having more 511 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: authentic content out there, but I just think this idea 512 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: is stupid. But I'm sorry, but not one hundred percent 513 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: of people who use Instagram want to be famous. It's 514 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: probably like five percent. I want to be influencers some people. 515 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: But even if it was, there is an element though, 516 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: of like people liked influences and were interested in them 517 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: because they wanted to see an insight into people's real lives, 518 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: and it's become so distant from real life. A lot 519 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: of influencers actually actual reality that I'm on the fence now. 520 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: I do think that their people will be interested to 521 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: see what people are really up to in an unfiltered way, 522 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: and I think the marketing is quite good of it, 523 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: and probably for people's mental health. It's a great thing 524 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: because gone are the days of people filtering the crap 525 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: out of their photos. You can actually just go on 526 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: see what your friends look like, how that close circle doing, 527 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: have your close circle that you just share fun shit with, 528 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: rather than seeing everybody out at these fancy events. But 529 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: to me, it's no different to Snapchat, but except I 530 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: have control over when I want to send an unfiltered photo. 531 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather listen to an Auditude auto tuned Quith, play 532 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: it on a continuous loop, and listen to Iona Kinder's 533 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: new album. Elon Musk's love hate relationship with Twitter took 534 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: an unexpected turn this week when the world's richest man 535 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: acquired the company for forty four billion dollars. Mask's decision 536 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: has stumped many sent shareholders into a panic and opened 537 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: up a discussion about freedom of speech before we get 538 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: into it all. For those who don't know much about 539 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, okay, can you give us a quick rundown? 540 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: Well. 541 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: Musk appeared on most people's radars back in twenty eighteen 542 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: when he launched a Tesla sports car into space using 543 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: a rocket from his other company, SpaceX. He also made 544 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: headlines again in twenty twenty when he announced he and 545 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: his partner Grimes, had named their baby x ash A 546 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: twelve and as mentioned, he is the world's richest person, 547 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: with an estimated wealth of two hundred undred and forty 548 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: five point six billion dollars now. Musk was born in 549 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: South Africa in nineteen seventy one to a wealthy family. 550 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: So His mum was a dietitian and model and his 551 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: dad was an engineer who co owned a Zambi and 552 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Emerald mine. 553 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: Now. 554 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Musk's parents split when he was nine and he moved 555 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: to Canada with his mum and siblings. In nineteen ninety nine, 556 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: he got his big break when he started a software 557 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: company called zip TiO with twenty eight thousand dollars of 558 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: his father's money. Now the company actually ended up being 559 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: acquired by compact, with Musk getting seven percent of the sale, 560 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: which was a cool twenty two million dollars. From there, 561 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: he co founded an online banking company, which later merged 562 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: with another company to become PayPal, and in two thousand 563 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: and two, eBay acquired PayPal, and Musk received one hundred 564 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: and seventy five point eight million dollars for his share. 565 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: So in the last twenty years, Musk has gone on 566 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: to do a lot, But what has gotten him to 567 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: his billionaire status is his stake in Tesla aerospace firm SpaceX. Interestingly, 568 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: he did almost lose it all in two thousand and 569 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: eight when SpaceX had trouble launching its Falcon one rocket. 570 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: At the time, Tesla was also losing money, but both companies, 571 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: of course bounced back. Now, what is interesting about Musk's 572 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: acquisition of Twitter is the love hate relationship he has 573 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: with the platform. He has been labeled a Twitter troll, 574 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: and he slammed the platform for attempting to muzzle free speech, 575 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: including his own. Now the platform has been at the 576 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: center of many of his controversies. Musk has over eighty 577 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: three million followers on Twitter, and he tweets prolifically and 578 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: often controversially now, some of his tweets have caused massive 579 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: ramifications for his business, The sec band Musk for tweeting 580 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: about Tesla's affairs after one tweet alone wiped fourteen billion 581 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: dollars off its share price, and just recently he sold 582 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: fifty five billion in Tesla stock after polling to Twitter 583 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: for advice. Musk has also been accused of using Twitter 584 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: to manipulate markets by driving up the price of bitcoin 585 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: and cryptocurrencies, and in twenty twenty, he caused controversy when 586 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: he tweeted that the panic over COVID was dumb and 587 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: called the US stay at home order fascist. Musk has 588 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: even been unsuccessfully sued for defamation after he called one 589 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: of the divers in the Thai schoolboy rescue apedot Guy 590 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: must Companies have also had their fair share of controversies. 591 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: Last year, Tesla was accused of discriminating against African American employees, 592 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: as well as seven female employees claiming they were sexually 593 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: harassed and discriminated against at Tesla. This year, the California 594 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Department of Fair Employment and Housing also sued Tesla for 595 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: discriminating against its black workers. So it's safe to say 596 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: he's a very controversial figure and a lot of his 597 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: controversies have surrounded Twitter. Yeah, and his decision to purchase 598 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Twitter has come at such an interesting time when go 599 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: governments around the world are focusing on regulating big tech. 600 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: There are now big expectations on social media companies to 601 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: police their platforms to deal with everything from hate speech 602 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: to child exploitation and terrorist content, and many governments are 603 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: introducing steep fines for non compliance on material that insits violence, 604 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: or is abusive or classifies as hate speech. Just last Friday, 605 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: the European Union provisionally agreed to the Digital Services Act, 606 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: which will force the largest online platforms to be transparent 607 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: about their activities and assess and mitigate the harms their 608 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: products may cause. Look, I'll admit it, I rarely use Twitter, 609 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: and I really only use it as a source to 610 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: find out information on breaking news. It's also a platform 611 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: that influences aren't very active on, which may be the 612 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: reason why I'm not very active on it. However, it 613 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: is considered the world's most important platform for world leaders, politicians, journalists, 614 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: and celebrities, and Twitter is extremely powerful from a new 615 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: US generating perspective, which is why the decision on how 616 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: the platform is moderated is so crucial and is really 617 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: being talked about. So many people are worried about Musk's 618 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: references to free speech on the platform, and when the 619 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: news was announced that he had acquired Twitter, he tweeted, 620 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy, and 621 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to 622 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: the future of humanity are debated. Now many people fear 623 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: that this move could create social division and political upheaval 624 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: on the platform, because this is a platform that has 625 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: already faced immense criticism for allowing misinformation from everything from 626 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: politics to the pandemic to be freely distributed on its platform, 627 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: and this could have big consequences for Twitter's bottom line, 628 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: which is already struggling. Advertisers are going to be very 629 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: unlikely to want to advertise on a platform that is 630 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: so controversial. So on Wednesday, Musk tried to clear up 631 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: his deafinie of free speech. He tweeted, by free speech, 632 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: I simply mean that which matches the law. I am 633 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: again censorship that goes far beyond the law. If people 634 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: want less free speech, they will ask government to pass 635 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: laws to that effect. Therefore, going beyond the law is 636 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: contrary to the will of the people. Now, there are 637 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: many issues here with mask definition. The most obvious is 638 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: that the law is different in different countries. There's also 639 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: difficulty around whether a tweet breaks the law in real time. 640 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: You only have to think about the tweets that encourage 641 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: the storming of the capital in Washington. Now back to 642 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Twitter's struggling bottom line. It's quite interesting because whilst Facebook 643 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: has harnessed advertising dollars, Twitter has always failed in this 644 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: respect and Twitter has never turned a profit, which I 645 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: found really surprising, and it's safe to say it has 646 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: a very flawed business model. It has had net losses 647 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: since it launch and never reached its financial potential. Now, 648 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: a big part of musk appeal is that he's considered 649 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: a visionary, but his move to acquire Twitter has really 650 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: stumped a lot of people because many believe it will 651 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: never turn a profit and that his best days are 652 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: behind it. Now. In musk statement about acquiring Twitter, he 653 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: said Twitter has tremendous potential. I look forward to working 654 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: with the company and the community of users to unlock it. 655 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: But to me, it's clear I don't think he's got 656 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: Twitter to make money. He's already got so much money. 657 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: It's more of an fu to say, look, I'm going 658 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: to buy Twitter. Twitter has been silencing people and myself included. Yeah, 659 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: but that being said, he's not going to put his 660 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: money into something he doesn't think is going to be successful, 661 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: and based on his citars success, you would hope he 662 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. The thing is, though, this 663 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: is a sixth of his wealth that he has put 664 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: into purchasing Twitter. Now he has gone on the record 665 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: and stated that he's not interested in making money out 666 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: of the platform, so it is all about the power 667 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and the influence. But this really could unravel him because 668 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: there are concerns that this could distract him from his 669 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: other companies like Tesla and SpaceX, which should be his 670 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: primary focus because those are the businesses that are making 671 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: him so much money. And when you consider that his 672 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: net worth is almost entirely based on the valuation of Tesla, 673 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: it seems like very risky business. And despite Tesla not 674 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: being involved in Musk's decision to purchase Twitter, investors have 675 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: already wiped one hundred and twenty six billion of its 676 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: values because they're concerned again that his focus is moving 677 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: away from Tesla and that he may be forced to 678 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: sell his shares to fund this personal contribution towards the 679 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: acquisition of Twitter. And you only have to think about 680 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: Netflix recently because their stocks plunged thirty eight percent overnight 681 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: last week. And it just shows you how quickly things 682 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: can unravel. 683 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: So we have come to Victoria Park and we've just 684 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: on a little lap around the park and I actually 685 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: am feeling really good. It actually gave me a bit 686 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: of momentum. So Princess okay, Princess Victoria Parks. Well, I 687 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: can tell people exactly where I was. I thought that 688 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: would be dumb. They'll come at you for that, But 689 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: like I just didn't who gives the exact location of 690 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: where they are? We're anyways, I was about to say 691 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 3: something important. 692 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: Former Maths contestant Michael Brunelli says he received shocked phone 693 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: calls and messages from his family and friends after revealing 694 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: big news to his Instagram followers before them Sophie, what happened? Well? 695 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: In a Q and A with his followers, Michael revealed 696 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: that he and Martha are planning on moving overseas now. 697 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: A follower asked Michael why he had recently been pretty 698 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: quiet on social media, and Michael responded saying a few reasons. 699 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: I've been sick, working on True Fit, organizing my personal life, 700 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: but mainly that Martha and I spent some time making 701 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: a big decision to move overseas for a while now. 702 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: This admission, of course, led to other curious followers wanting 703 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: to know more about the move. One follower asked, why 704 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: are you moving. Michael explained that it's something the couple 705 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: has wanted to do for years. He also said it 706 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that they've had a 707 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: few problems with their new house and because the world 708 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: is opened again. He confirmed it's not a long term move, 709 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: but it's a change they both want to experience. Michael 710 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: then explained that he will be making the move around 711 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: mid May. Martha is currently already overseas, so he will 712 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: meet her over there. He also said that between now 713 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: and then he is packing up their house and getting 714 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: everything into storage. Now. I'm not sure if that is 715 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: because they are planning on selling their new house or 716 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: if they're getting cleaners in to fix it, because a 717 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, Martha revealed that their house had sustained 718 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: mold damage from record breaking rain in Sydney. So when 719 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: they returned from a five day trip to Adelaide, they 720 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: discovered the damage. So Martha showed black mold growing up 721 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: the wall and fungi on the roof. And often this 722 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: is caused when a house has a leaky roof or 723 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: leaking walls, which causes the mold to go quickly. So 724 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't something that the original owner was trying to conceal. Yeah, 725 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: but this is something that's been happening a lot in 726 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Sydney because of the unprecedented rain. It's very unusual and 727 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: it's just something that everyone, I think is dealing with. 728 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: While it is something that a lot of people are experiencing, 729 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: it would be really disappointing to move into a new 730 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: house because they only moved into the house in September, 731 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: and Martha did give a tour and it does look 732 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: like a pretty beautiful house. So the property features an 733 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: open plan living space and kitchen with modern appliances and 734 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: large windows. I sound like a real estate agent again. 735 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: And it also has a little view of the water. 736 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful spot. But it seems like the couple 737 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: has other issues with the property apart from the mold 738 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: and that's why they're wanting to get out of there. 739 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Not a good ad for this property if you're looking 740 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: to rent it or purchase it. It does appear though, 741 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: that Michael's post did set off a massive chain reaction 742 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: involving his family and friends, because as you touched on 743 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: earlier Soviet they all called and were like, what the 744 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: fuck is going on? So he had to clarify that 745 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: the couple is not moving overseas permanently and this means 746 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: that they are free to go over to Europe to work. 747 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: Michael confirmed Martha will be doing her influencer work over 748 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: there and it gives him the opportunity to work with 749 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: the True Fit team in the UK and also work 750 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: with his app development team over there. Is said it's 751 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: likely they are going to be there for two months. 752 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: It might be less or more. They don't know yet, 753 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,479 Speaker 1: but nothing is permanent. Do you know what I feel 754 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of Maths contestants are going to be 755 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: moving over to the UK for a little while because 756 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: they have been playing Maths in the UK. And you'll 757 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: notice that a lot of the Maths contestants are getting 758 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: more and more followers, and this is because of the 759 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: popularity of the show over there. Yeah, maybe they're trying 760 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: to get there, do their time over there whilst they're 761 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: well known, get some more influencer deals in the UK. 762 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: It's pretty smart move. Well. I think that's all we've 763 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: got time for today. Thank you so much for joining 764 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: us for another episode of Outspoken. If you did like 765 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: the show, please leave us a review and don't forget 766 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: to join in on all the conversations in our Facebook 767 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: group which is Outspoken. The podcast community