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Speaker 1: The Rise and Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of

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Speaker 1: the land which this episode is being recorded, the Yugen

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Speaker 1: to their elders past and present and extend that respect

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Speaker 1: to all Aboriginal and terrest Rate Islander peoples today. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: This is the podcast for ordinary.

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Speaker 1: People who want to do extraordinary things. If your love

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Speaker 1: language is touched, you need to know how to like

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Speaker 1: sort that out, yes, because you can't always you know, rely,

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Speaker 1: I just think that's on the od vibrator.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to the Rise and Conker Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is your host, Georgie Stephenson and guys, I'm back

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Speaker 1: with another Geez hotline. These other episodes where you send

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Speaker 1: in your life dilemmas and I provide you with my

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Speaker 1: very young qualified two cents on the situation, and of

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Speaker 1: course a tea is joining us. So guys, disclaimer, this

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Speaker 1: episode is so chaotic. We went completely rogue.

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Speaker 2: It's more than last time.

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Speaker 1: We say this every time and then we just keep

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Speaker 1: topping it and it's a bit spicy. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about it, to be honest, I spoke

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Speaker 1: to a Tea and Ellie and I'm like, do we

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Speaker 1: just cut it chunk out? Yeah, it's a bit of appropriate,

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Speaker 1: But as I say in it, we are grown ass

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I will talk about these things

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Speaker 1: all day, every.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I guess I'm just conscious because we do get

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Speaker 1: I also know my mom and family members listen to this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to send my mum a message

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Speaker 2: We are grown ass women ATIA.

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Speaker 1: We are we are, So I'm sorry if we get

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Speaker 1: a bit ooh, this is so inappropriate, But I was

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Speaker 1: a little bit embarrassed, But definitely listen to this one

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Speaker 1: with earphones and if you're in a public place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great recommendation. A tea recommendation for the week.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw someone post that they went and unfollowed

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Speaker 2: anyone who they followed that followed Andrew Tate.

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Speaker 1: topics are we talk about love languages, we talk about.

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Speaker 1: not religious, but they had it in a chapel and

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00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: the whole ceremony was quite religious, just because her family

439
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: is quite religious and she just like wanted to please them,

440
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: which I thought was quite sweet.

441
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: Yeah that is nice. Yeah, so what was your ceremony?

442
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: Like?

443
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: Super casual and super fun.

444
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: We did our own vowels. The guy was like really

445
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: funny and just very fun and homie.

446
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what would you do? I definitely want the

447
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: religious We call it a nicker when you get married,

448
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: but that doesn't have to be done in a mosque.

449
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: So I think it would just come down to where

450
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: in the world I'm getting mad married and the costs

451
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: and who to and who to because this is this

452
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: is not a thing I went through on my head.

453
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: Because, for example, if you marry a man who is

454
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: not Muslim.

455
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'd still want a knicker, yes, and

456
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: to be married Islamically, would you? I wonder if he

457
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: could dissipate.

458
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: It's just you at the wedding.

459
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I should check on that.

460
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: Actually, this is a rogue question. Would you ever marry

461
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: someone who isn't Muslim?

462
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: Yes? But their values need to match mine. Love that,

463
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: So I have no issue marrying someone not Muslim as

464
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: long as our values aligned, but because a lot of

465
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: mine tend to align with my religion. But also as.

466
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: Long as he was super respectful of your beliefs. Religion exactly.

467
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 2: And I would never want him to stop doing anything

468
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: that because obviously I don't drink and stuff like that.

469
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: But say he had a wine here and there. I

470
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't ever want a press for someone to stop. But

471
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: I would have to be okay with that. Yeah. Yeah,

472
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: But I would never make someone stop being who they

473
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: are just because they're marrying me. Good, I would hope not.

474
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: No.

475
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: All right, next question, sex before marriage? I love her

476
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: follow ups.

477
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go road and be very open and say.

478
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: I had sex when I was fourteen.

479
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I was a child, and I.

480
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: So in Jehovah's witness. Is that against the rules?

481
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Yes? Rules?

482
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: I was no longer Jehovah's witness.

483
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was like and also I was going

484
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: through my rebel teenage stage.

485
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: I was a bad teenager. I was.

486
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: It was really funny because I started being a rebel

487
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: and going to parties and stuff when I was fourteen fifteen,

488
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: and then I became really studious in grade eleven and twelve,

489
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: Like I've pulled it together, yeah, and.

490
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: Like stop going to parties and like stop drinking and stuff.

491
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah.

492
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: So I had like a really bad stint when I

493
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: was younger and then kind of got through it. And

494
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: then it's funny because everyone else was going through their

495
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: rebel stage and I was.

496
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: Like, been there, done that. So I can't believe I.

497
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Just said that on air.

498
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: So I had sex quite young.

499
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something now looking back, I didn't even understand

500
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: the whole concept.

501
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: And it is just because my parents.

502
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: Had the belief that you don't have sex before marriage. Yeah,

503
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: so I didn't get did they both follow that? They say?

504
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: Literally I asked them and they're like, we never had

505
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: sex before marriage when I was younger, and then like

506
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: now they're like, yeah, of.

507
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: Course we didn't. And I was like you why would

508
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: you say that? Is you know, no wonder why I

509
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: went through a rebel stage?

510
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: You lied to me anyway, So I.

511
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: Was like pushing back.

512
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: But now, looking back, this is a random rant. But

513
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: for example, I've had this conversation with Tim that with Ivy.

514
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I to be very open about sex because my parents weren't,

515
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and I went through it at a stage where I

516
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: actually didn't really understand the whole concept, and I wish

517
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: I had more information and more just understanding because I

518
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: don't think I would have had sex so young.

519
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense, do you know what I mean? Yeah,

520
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: it's almost if you don't talk to someone or have

521
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: an open conversation about those things, they're more likely to

522
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: do it. And then it's like when you're underage drinking.

523
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: I feel like it's the easiest way to explain it

524
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: is that you'd rather do it in the safe space

525
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: because you're going to do it anyway, so at least

526
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: be educated and understand what you're doing before you do it,

527
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: because then you can make an educated decision as to

528
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: whether to do it or not.

529
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: Correct And for me, in that situation, all my friends

530
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: had already had sex, so I just thought it was

531
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: the thing I think we all did. Yeah, And I

532
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: also I did have a long term boyfriend and he

533
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: was really sweet and it was fine. Yeah, But but

534
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: now looking back, I wish there was some more openness

535
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: and some conversation about it. Yeah, for me to actually

536
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: having an understanding about sex, not it being like this

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: weird exclusive thing that you don't have sex before you're marriage,

538
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: and yeah, because it's just that's not applicable for everyone.

539
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: I feel like it.

540
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: I love the concept, not really, I don't love it,

541
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: but like I understand the concept of no sex before marriage,

542
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: but if it's not applicable, I think it's important for

543
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: young women to understand it. Yeah, just everyone, of course,

544
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: it needs to be something that I think they do

545
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: talk about it more in schools now than they did

546
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: when we were in school.

547
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: I remember sex ed, but it wasn't sex ed. It

548
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: was like, here's how reproduction work.

549
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, but that's what I mean, Like

550
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: I just had no concept of again tear my about

551
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: how to like what felt good for me, how like

552
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: knowing my body, Yeah, understanding about what sex is actually

553
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: about and how you should feel very empowered and you know,

554
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: it should be feel very like.

555
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Knowing what good feels like vers knowing what bad feels like. Yeah,

556
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: kind other than just like things being painful or not painful.

557
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think just openness about it. Yeah, because

558
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: it felt like this naughty thing. And I think also

559
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: being a young rebellious child, a naughty thing. You want

560
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: to go do it? Yes, He's like, cannot relate. I'm like,

561
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: I was just the most uptight kid ever up tied here.

562
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: I was like getting drunk, dying and feels and grateful.

563
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: My mom told me I needed to learn how to

564
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: take a joke, so I borrowed a Knock Knock joke

565
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: book from the library. Oh tear, you're so sweet. I

566
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: love you.

567
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: It's funny because you're not that uptight now.

568
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've chilled out good. I was wound up,

569
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: like wow. It was insane interesting in the sense that

570
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: to the point that my teachers had to work with

571
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: me to not get an entire week's worth of homew

572
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: I've done on the day they gave it to me,

573
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: because I'd just like stay up till midnight. In primary school,

574
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: I would stay up till midnight doing the homework they

575
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: gave to me that day when I had a week.

576
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: There was something going on there. What, Yeah, it was

577
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: a crazy concern. I was. I don't know why I

578
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: was wound so tightly, but I'm fine now. So it's okay.

579
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: We love this transflation for you anyway.

580
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: That's my view what's your view on sex before marriage?

581
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't know your moment.

582
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: No, your religion is no sex before marriage, just like

583
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Jehovah's witness.

584
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel close religions are no sex

585
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: before Maria. Yeah, and I haven't had a boyfriend, so

586
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: I can't really comment because I don't know what I

587
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: would want to do. She'll get back to us. Yeah,

588
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd ever casually do it just to

589
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: do it, you know, like this, I'm not going to

590
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: download Tinder and go hook up with someone just because

591
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: I want to have sex? Why not? Though I don't

592
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: want to right now, But that's the things you don't

593
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: want to I couldn't tell you why for someone who

594
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: does want to have sex, Oh, go for it. Yeah,

595
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Like I have no issue with that.

596
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah good, Yeah, it's because that's actually not like for

597
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: me myself and I I felt like growing up there

598
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: was such a stigma around like slutty girls and that

599
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: sort of thing, which now looking back.

600
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is wrong with people? Yeah?

601
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: And that's like another conversation that I want to have

602
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: with Ivy and like just being like you should feel empowered.

603
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: To sleep with as many people as you want.

604
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah safely please Yeah, yeah, obviously safely. But also it's like,

605
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: if you're a person who enjoy sex and you love yeah,

606
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you love that experience and it feels really good for

607
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: you and really empowering, you should feel empowered to go and.

608
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: Do that thing. Absolutely.

609
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: You shouldn't feel like, oh, society says as a woman,

610
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I should sleep with one persons off in my whole life.

611
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: Guys get praised for sleeping with lots of women, but

612
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: girls get shatter. This is this is a whole other episode.

613
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like and I grew up with three brothers,

614
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: so you can imagine, yeah, toxic masculinity.

615
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, in it wasn't toxic.

616
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Like my brothers are great, they're very respectful.

617
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to put that on there.

618
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just a whole thing where it's like

619
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: you get to decide and I just want again, this

620
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: is me talking about Ivy is.

621
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: I just want her to feel.

622
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Really empowered and her to make that decision and in

623
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the end, like it's all it's all left us.

624
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like another important thing that isn't

625
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: spoken enough about feeling empowered to have sex verse sex

626
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: making you feel good because you're happy someone wants to

627
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: sleep with you because your self esteem is that low. Yeah, Like,

628
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: I've seen both ends of the stick, and I it's

629
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: like a weird subject to broach with someone because they're

630
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: always like, oh, but it makes me feel good. And

631
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: I know you can't really tell someone that something's making

632
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: them feel good for the wrong reasons. But it's more

633
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: like the dip after that is so low that they

634
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: just need to sleep with someone else to get on

635
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: a high. Yep, Like it's kind of addictive. Interesting.

636
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I've I don't have a lot of thoughts on the

637
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: topic because I've never thought about it, yeah, or been

638
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: in that scenario because I'm someone who's had a boyfriend

639
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: like her whole life.

640
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, or wait, he's my husband and my boyfriend to.

641
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: Ask, Yeah, and like both long term relationships. But yeah,

642
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I understand what you mean.

643
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, that's all I upset on that. Okay, I

644
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: love this. Who to invite to your wedding? I love this.

645
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm a big advocate that you don't have to invite everyone.

646
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: It's just who you like, So just because they're family

647
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they get to come to your wedding. Ooh,

648
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: huge advocate like, for example, my wedding was expensive. Yeah

649
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: per head, you're paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars per head.

650
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like if you're just inviting people to

651
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: please that person, well, not like to please a person

652
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: who's getting invited, yeah, or just because you think you

653
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: have to. I don't know, not a vibe for me.

654
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: What would you say, say you have a group of

655
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: six girlfriends, Yeah, and you get along with five of them,

656
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: and then the extra one is like a mutual friend

657
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 2: of someone that's come into the group and you'reinly vibe.

658
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: Do you have to invite that person? No? No, why

659
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: you'll invite the it's my wedding.

660
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Speaker 1: I so a big thing that I'm sim with the

661
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: the big thing that I do is would I be

662
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Speaker 1: invited to their wedding?

663
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: And what if you would be? Then what do you do?

664
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, true? Yeah? Well yeah, or what if you

665
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: have been invited to their wedding? Oh yeah, look, I'd

666
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: probably just didn't mind that. I'd probably feel bad.

667
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: But also I think with that whole friend's situation, before

668
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: the wedding invites went out, I would have a conversation

669
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: with that person and go, look, I love your company.

670
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I obviously spend a lot of time with you could

671
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: because we've come together because of mutual friends. I just

672
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: want to let you know our wedding is super intimate

673
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: and it is quite expensive, and for that reason, we

674
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: have had to just be very you know, particular with

675
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Speaker 1: who were invited. And I'd love for you to come

676
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: to the engagement party, but you just you're not on

677
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Speaker 1: the wedding list.

678
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Speaker 2: Was your wedding intimate like eighty people? Okay, yeah, that's

679
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: pretty small. Yeah, I think you can say that. And

680
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: I and I feel like anyone who's having a big

681
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: wedding you just got to stuck it up and invite

682
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: the people. Yeah. I don't know, I don't agree with that.

683
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: I just like, if you had your wedding people there,

684
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: who knows, three hundred people?

685
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: There were three hundred people at my uncles.

686
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's a whole other thing. Yeah, that's like family

687
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: family vibes.

688
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, the sibling question. Yeah, so it's like, do

689
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: you invite your sibling if you're having a fight with

690
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: them to your wedding? I think you do.

691
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, if you don't think this fight is

692
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: going to last forever, I think you do. I think

693
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: even if you think the fight's going to last forever,

694
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: you invite them because of your sibling and you don't

695
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. What if you mend this relationship,

696
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: no matter how broken it is at that point in time,

697
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: and then you come to regret not having them there?

698
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean?

699
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I another actual thing just to note on

700
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: that with the people is something I did at my

701
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: wedding is I said for extra people who I was

702
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: close with, but it's like, you know, we didn't have

703
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: enough seats or whatever. I did say, you can come

704
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: to the ceremony, we just don't have enough spots for

705
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: you at the you know, Oh that's nice after party

706
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. The reception, Yeah, reception, the after party, that thing.

707
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: I've heard that some people sell tickets to their reception

708
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: ticket what do you.

709
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Like, make them pay for it.

710
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll pay for like the eighty people, and they'll

711
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: have a ceremony with one hundred people and they'll say, oh,

712
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: if you want to come to the reception, it's going

713
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: to be two hundred dollars. What are your thoughts on that? Oh,

714
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: I just don't have them. That's weird. Yeah, you can't

715
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: ask someone to pay. Again, I was.

716
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: About to say, but I come from a wedding where

717
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: like we paid for everything, even with like the bridesmaids

718
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: and groonsmen and stuff like we just yeah, I just

719
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: had the view like if I'm not making them be

720
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: a bridesmaid. But I was just like I didn't want anyone,

721
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: especially because like when I got married, like I was

722
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: twenty two or twenty three, So it's like, so you

723
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: were young. I was young, and I knew a lot

724
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: of our friends didn't have a lot of money. Yeah,

725
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: and I wasn't gonna make them like fork out a

726
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: lot of money just so we could have our special day.

727
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: But did you have like, were you pretty financing stable

728
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: at that point? Somew It definitely cost us a lot

729
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: of money. But for example, if you're making the decision

730
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: to have a big wedding, I think you should wear

731
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: the cost.

732
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: That was just our view.

733
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: So we were happy to wear the cost, yeah, and

734
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: just be broke for a bit because it did left us,

735
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: you know. But then I think that's why if you're

736
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: someone who wants to have this lavish wedding and all

737
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: the extras, but then you want, you know, everyone to

738
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: pay money to come.

739
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, I don't think that's very fair. Yeah, no,

740
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: I totally agree in that sense. But what about It's

741
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: interesting because I know a lot of people that have

742
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: also asked bridesmaids and groomsmen to pay for the suits

743
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: or dresses and to shoes. Yeah, like if it's a

744
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: couple of hundred dollars or whatever like for like those people. Yeah,

745
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: I think that's fine.

746
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: I just think asking people to pay for their seat

747
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: at a reception or for example, I think this is

748
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: just my view. Bridesmaids, if you want them to have

749
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: an expensive dress, you know, a Zimmerman or a Beckon

750
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Bridge or something like that that is over two hundred dollars,

751
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: I think you should pay for it.

752
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, or like subsidize the cost majorly. Yeah, because

753
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: I've known people who literally make their brides maids pay

754
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: for like eight hundred dollars dresses. No, And it's like

755
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: I just am like, oh my gosh, I said, I

756
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: meant never buy dress from Pedal and Pup. They ordered, yes,

757
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: well that's yeah.

758
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: The last wedding I went to literally my dresses from

759
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: Pedal and Pup and I was like, of course I'm

760
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna buy it. Yeah, exactly, and like amazing, But yeah,

761
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I've just known a couple

762
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: of stories of like people having bougie weddings, but.

763
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: Like then wanting people to pay for things. I'm like,

764
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: what another question on weddings, what is the appropriate amount

765
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: to gift a couple if they're having a wishing well

766
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: wedding or what is an appropriate wedding gift? First? Inappropriate

767
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: wedding gift?

768
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: I always do money because as someone who had a wedding,

769
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: I would want money. Yeah, because you're just trying to

770
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: repay all the money you spent. Yeah, do you want

771
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: an actual amount? Because I'm happy to do that.

772
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: I reckon, let's do it and then let's pull the

774
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: audience on what they think.

775
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is also remembering. This is as a couple.

776
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: I think it's to get around if you're a single person.

777
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: As a couple, if it's someone we're not as close with,

778
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: but it's like you've been invited to the wedding, mutual

779
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: friends having fun.

780
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: Like maybe you're seated towards the back of the reception

781
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: kind of relationship with the person.

782
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're at the back yeah, I reckon like two

783
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: hundred to three hundred. Yeah, absolutely, any close friends, we've

784
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: always gone like five hundred. Yeah, because for example, our wedding,

785
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: I remember it was close to two hundred per head. Yeah,

786
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: so you're basically covering what your per meal and drinks are. Yeah,

787
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: knowing this person has just spent a lot of money

788
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: and you really love this person and you want them.

789
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: To have a great day, and would you give them

790
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: a gift as well? Then no, or like say if

791
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: you were a bridesmaid, Oh yeah, if.

792
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: You're a bridesmaid, because you do a little gift, you're

793
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, all the bridesmaids.

794
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Put in and you get her a little gift.

795
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fine it and then like a

796
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: little bit of money and a yeah yeah, So like

797
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: rule of FuMB depending on the wedding, it's kind of

798
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: how to cover your own costs to a certain extenth

799
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: to just like help them out and enjoy the day.

800
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: But in saying that, yeah, I think I don't know

801
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: if that's I don't know where that sits in the

802
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: realm of how other people.

803
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it the same. I would

804
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: put about one hundred to one hundred and fifty dollars

805
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: in yeah, by myself, Yes, because I'd say that's probably

806
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: around what the wedding would cost. Yeah. Or I'd get

807
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: them something that I know they need, Like if I

808
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: know they're just about to move out and they might

809
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: need something for their kitchen, and I have a good

810
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: relationship with them and I know that they need that

811
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: specific thing, I will do it, but with a gift receipt.

812
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: Always with a gift receipt just in case they get

813
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: given five of them. But otherwise you have money. Yeah.

814
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: The last thing I wanted to talk about eloping versus

815
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: having a ceremony, verse having a huge wedding or a

816
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: small wedding. I think it's just completely up to you.

817
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: If it's really important for you to have your big

818
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: day and you want, you know, the big ceremony, then

819
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: like do that. But if it's not really your vibe,

820
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bother quote unquote wasting the money.

821
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: How did you and Tim design? I?

822
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, I come from a Biggish family. I have

823
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: three brothers, I have a lot of arnies and uncles,

824
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: and I always have great memories of other weddings and

825
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: it being like really beautiful family time.

826
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: And like I wanted to wear the big white dress.

827
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 2: I wanted to have.

828
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: All the flowers. I wanted to feel like, you know,

829
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: a queen on my wedding day. So I always knew

830
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: I wanted the big wedding day.

831
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a very That's that's my style. If you

832
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: haven't known that.

833
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: In saying that, Like my best friend she's and I

834
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: was also like quite young, and it was that was

835
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: just my mentality. I thought I did like we did,

836
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: we really wanted to do.

837
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: That means yeah.

838
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: But for example, my best friend, she she's actually not engaged,

839
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: but she said when we get married, she's like, I

840
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: just want a big party.

841
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: And she's just like, we'll probably hire at a house.

842
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: We'll just have our close friends and family. She doesn't

843
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of family, so she's like and she's like,

844
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: we'll probably literally just you know, get married at the

845
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: court and then come back to the house and.

846
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: Just have a big celebration. I love that. Yeah, So

847
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: I think it's just and she's not a traditional sort

848
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: of girl. Yeah. And how did you guys decide sort

849
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: of what circle of friendship to stop inviting people at?

850
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, We.

851
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Just invited our close friends and that was it. I

852
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: don't have many friends, so it was quite easy.

853
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I didn't have any friends many friends either,

854
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: so look, there weren't a lot of people.

855
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Man. All right, guys, we're going to do a poll

856
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: of these wedding questions to see what you guys think.

857
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