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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jonesy and I was just

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Speaker 1: thinking those mobile phone detective cameras, have you been caught? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there's a story that's come out and this is going

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Speaker 1: to open up a bit of a can of worms

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Speaker 1: about what's the difference between a phone and doing something else.

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Speaker 1: A driver in Brisbane has sparked debate over a mobile

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Speaker 1: phone fine. She revealed her hands off the wheel for

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Speaker 1: another reason. So she's gone to Facebook because if you

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Speaker 1: want fair commentary, takes something to Facebook, and she's taken

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Speaker 1: a picture of the picture of her infringement. In the

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Speaker 1: image you can see the woman she's holding an unknown

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Speaker 1: object in her hand while neither of her hands are

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Speaker 1: on the wheel. So this was in Mount Kutha in Brisbane.

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Speaker 1: And the fine says holding a mobile or resting on

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Speaker 1: the body, that's what she says.

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Speaker 2: So you're not allowed to hold the mobile or have

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Speaker 2: the nobile on your lips or anything.

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Speaker 1: But she said this, it's not actually a phone. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking my smoke out of the rolling machine. You can

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Speaker 1: clearly see it's not.

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Speaker 3: A fun What does that mean? What's a rolling machine?

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Speaker 1: A cigarette? Rolling machines?

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Speaker 3: She was doing that while she was driving Brandon.

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Speaker 1: When I used to smoke, you're dabbling rollies every now

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Speaker 1: and then, and you get the rolling machine, which is

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Speaker 1: more convoluted than actually just rolling it by yourself.

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Speaker 3: Since I saw anyone roll their own cigarette.

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Speaker 1: She's driving along. She's gone to Facebook, and of course

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Speaker 1: you can imagine how Facebook has treated this.

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Speaker 2: So she had both hands off the wheel rolling a cigarette,

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Speaker 2: but it's safe because it wasn't a phone.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting world we live in.

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Speaker 1: These are the people that you're sharing the raid