1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: That is so fatch. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: Thank you hello and welcome to Outspoken. Thank you for 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: joining us. Now, Amy, your boyfriend Dale has a little 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise plan for you this weekend. Yeah, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: so he told me yesterday that he organized a weekend away, 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: which I was like, oh my gosh, that sounds like 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But there's a bit of a 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: twist to this weekend. So he absolutely loves camping and 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: I cannot stand it. But he thought it'd be a 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: cool idea to go on a trip in a caravan. Now, 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: it's obviously not a surprise that you were hoping for. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: We actually have done outdoor Edit UNI because we made 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: it in Sport, and we had no clue when we 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: signed up to that subject that outdoor ed was a 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: part of it. Because I can tell you right now 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: I would not have signed up for it because we 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: had to do two camps. One was a kayaking camp 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: and the second was bushwalking, and I'm surprised we came 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: back alive from those camps. Now, okay, I actually got 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: an HD for that whole outdoor ed subject, which I 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: do not know how because I probably was the worst 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: camper there. Yeah, you must have been really good at 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: the actual written side of the thing, because I don't 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: know how either. You didn't know how to navigate, well, 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: none of us did. I still remember being told to 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: thumb the map, which thank god for Google Maps. I'm 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: just saying now. The thing I'm most disturbed about, Amy, 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: with this surprise that your boyfriend has planned for you 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: is the fact that he has rented this caravan on 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: marketplace from quite a dodgy area in South Australia. Is 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: it for a marketplace? I don't know you could rent 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: caravans on market when neither did I. So what happened 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: is he showed me some pictures of the caravan. I said, 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: where did you rent this from? And he begrudgingly told 40 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: me it was Facebook marketplace? But you guys are the 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: King and Queen Marketplace on you, so yeah we are. 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: But the reason he went on Facebook, Marketplace was because 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: apparently it was sort of a last minute thing, and 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: everywhere all the other caravans are booked. So I had 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: a look at this caravan and I do not like. 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I did not see myself staying there. So I said 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: to him, I'm happy to go camping with you in 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: you know, in a tent with his swag. I would 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: rather do that because I'm a bit of a germophobe, 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: so that actually the idea of sleeping in his swag 51 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: suits me better than a random caravan. Well, I think 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: that's a bold and brave move. But did you not 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: say that there is an ultimatum that if it's going 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: to rain, then you don't have to go, and then 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay the fee because I've been 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: looking at the weather Bureau and it is set to 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: rain and be like fifteen degrees or a top of fifteen. Well, 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean the reason I don't want to stay in 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: the caravan is it doesn't actually have a toilet. So 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: he has Dale has gone out and bought kindly a 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: toilet for me to use, which I didn't even know existed. 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: So it's basically it's just this little thing that looks 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: like a toilet, but you have to empty it. But 64 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I I thought, you know what, let's save two hundred 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: and forty dollars because that's how much it was going 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: to cost to stay a caravan. I couldn't believe it. 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, don't you just go on AIRB and B instead. Well, 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's funniest is my boyfriend and 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I are staying at this same location over the weekend, 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: but we're staying in his shack. So we've said to Amy, 71 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: if you need to go to the toilet or shower, 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: try and say trying camp somewhere close to us. I 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: could not be more happy that I'm staying at home. 74 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: To be honest, Oh look, I'm I'm I am trying 75 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: to be really positive about it. So I have to 76 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: let everyone know how it goes next week. And I 77 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: think we should preface we are in a very lucky 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: position where we can travel, so I think there's a 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of people in Melbourne that would be wishing they 80 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: could go camping. Yeah, so I think we're alto lucky 81 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: in that respect. Oh God, let's get into our first topic. 82 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: And with Victoria entering their second week of Stage four, lockdown, 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: the influencers are beginning to revolt. While Instagram is normally 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: their friend, their followers are becoming the enemy, documenting those 85 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: breaking the rules, even causing some to take a hiatus 86 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: from the platform. Well, one influencer that has caught all 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: of our attention is Shanny Grimmond. Now, she has been 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in Melbourne for the last couple of weeks after getting 89 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: caught up in the lockdown after visiting her boyfriend Tommy Bug. 90 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: So she hasn't actually broken any rules, but she has 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: actually now gone across to Queensland to quarantine and she's 92 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: been documenting the whole experience from walking around. There was 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: a shot of hair walking around for her daily exercise, 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: which I didn't even know that that's what went on 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: in the hotels. Yeah, it's pretty crazy because I feel 96 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: like on the news all we see is this exterior 97 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: of a hotel building and there seems to be a 98 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of secrecy around who these people are in these 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: lockdown situations. So it's really interesting to see it from 100 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: an influencer's point of view and have the whole process documented. Well, 101 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty surprised that she's actually left her boyfriend over there, 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and also her dogs. I get the feeling he's probably 103 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: just playing cod And on the PlayStation the whole time 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: and didn't even realize she left. Well, she of course 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: made the dashback because Queensland have tightened their restrictions with 106 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: everything happening in Melbourne at the moment, and one of 107 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: the burning questions many people had was whether she would 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: in fact be paying for that hotel quarantine and the 109 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: rules now in place in Queensland are that, yes, you 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: do have to pay. So she revealed that she paid 111 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: two eight hundred dollars for this fourteen days stay. It 112 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: looks like a pretty nice hotel, because I've had people 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: have been complaining about the type of hotels they've been 114 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: put up in. So I don't know whether she had 115 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: a say in which hotel she stayed in. Do you 116 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: know that? I'm not sure. But she did mention that 117 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: she traveled with her brother, so they've got a connecting 118 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: door and they can actually visit each other, which I 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: thought was good. Like I didn't know what the actual 120 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: rules were. She was saying that she feared that she 121 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: and her brother might be placed with two single beds 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: in the one room, So I mean, obviously they're having 123 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: to pay more for the connecting room as well. It's 124 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: been quite fascinating to see the meals that the hotels 125 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: are preparing for them, because there has been a lot 126 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: of criticism in the past about certain hotel meals and 127 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: the fact that people seem to be on rations and 128 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the food looks incredible. Do you think they've realized that 129 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: at Shani Grummand and they're like, oh shit, she's going 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: to be documenting this whole thing, we better actually provide 131 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: her some decent food. It's actually funny because it reminded 132 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: me of that excitement when you go to the buffet 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: or you have breakfast delivered to you at a hotel 134 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, what am I getting? But I 135 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: feel like that is going to wear off so quickly 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: being stuck in there for fourteen days with nothing to do. 137 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Does that mean you can't have any snacks? I don't know. 138 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: She did say something about ordering Uber eat, so I 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: would like to know how that process works. Hopefully. She 140 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: has documented that in her blog that she's filming. Well 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: good on Shany Grimman for actually documenting the experience, because 142 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of influencers who have gone 143 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: off the grid as per se and they said they're 144 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: not going to be documenting anything during lockdown, and a 145 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying that maybe this is because 146 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: they don't want their activities trapped because they may potentially 147 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: be doing the wrong thing. So one influencer that has 148 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: been criticized last lockdown for going off the grid and 149 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: traveling was Steph Claire Smith. Now she allegedly went to 150 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: her rural property in Victoria and yet again this lockdown, 151 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: she decided to have a weekend off Instagram. So it's 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: thought that potentially she might be doing the wrong thing. 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Now we don't know that for sure, but that's just 154 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: what people are guessing. Now. Someone else who's come under 155 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: fire is Kieran from Bachelor in Paradise. People must have 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: nothing to do at home because people have been even 157 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: stalking out his Strava, which I think is hilarious. On 158 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: his Instagram and Strava, it shows that he's gone for 159 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a ten k run. Now, of course, in Melbourne there 160 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: are rules that people can only stick to a five 161 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: k radius from their house and also the only alowedder 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: bit out for an hour each day, so for many 163 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: people a ten k run would take a lot longer 164 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: than an hour. Now, his Strava indicated that it did 165 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: only take him about forty minutes to do this ten 166 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: k run, but it did show that the ten k 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: run was along the esplanade, so it wasn't in fact 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: going in a five k radius around his house. Now, 169 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: it's a bit controversial because he did do the run 170 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: for a charity called Run for the Herd, which is 171 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: a virtual festival supporting mental health for youths. Now, what 172 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: do you guys think about it? Do you think it 173 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: is fair that he did this run considering it was 174 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: for charity. I feel like if he didn't get such 175 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: a bad rap on The Bachelor, which was deserved, then 176 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: people wouldn't be questioning what he's doing. But I feel 177 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: like because he has caused so many issues and looked 178 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: like a complete dickhead on Bachelor in Paradise, people are 179 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: like now following what he's doing and making a big 180 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: deal about it. It's hard to judge because we're in Adelaide, 181 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: But if I was in Melbourne, I must say I'd 182 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: probably be really pissed off if I was doing the 183 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: right thing and staying inside, So I can see where 184 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: the anger comes from. I can also see the flip 185 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: side where people are saying, well, he's doing it for 186 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: charity and he's going out and getting exercise. But the 187 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: thing is he's also been promoting the fact he was 188 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: in a Culture King's commercial and that was clearly when 189 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: he had the pink hair, and that was when lockdown 190 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: was happening. Yeah, I think it was stage three when 191 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: that occurred. But still I don't think in stage three 192 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: it was necessary to go film and ad for Culture Kings. 193 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: And it's quite funny because that ad came out when 194 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: he was talking about on Bachelor in Paradise that he 195 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: didn't know how to use Instagram and he wasn't there 196 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to be an influencer. It was quite funny the timing 197 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: of Well, he put a jibe off on his Instagram 198 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: about it, saying I don't know how to use Instagram 199 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: in the caption for colchure King's post. Can I just 200 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: add I have finally caught up with his interview on 201 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: too Much Tully and I just couldn't believe the flirting 202 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: from Tully on the other end. Oh my goodness it was. 203 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: You can tell I do feel bad for Tully because 204 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: you can tell she's still very much in love with him, 205 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: and she was very I mean, he does seem like 206 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a lovable guy. Like when I was listening to it, 207 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I can actually see how people get 208 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: sucked in by him because he's a lovable Alarican. Really. Yeah, well, 209 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: we are going to go into more detail on Kieran 210 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and all his lovely ladies because we've got Renee Barrett 211 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: on the show coming up a little bit later. But 212 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: on the topic of influencers, the other influencer that has 213 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: caught a lot of people's attention for the wrong reasons 214 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: in Lockdown is Taylor Demir Now, so can you film 215 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: me in on this because she hasn't been on my 216 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: radar for quite a while. Yeah. She was, of course 217 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: on the first series of Love Island, the better series, 218 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: that's right, And so she has caused a bit of 219 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: controversy because she recently moved to Melbourne from her hometown 220 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: of Perth to be with her boyfriend and he's of 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: course Richmond play at Nathan broad Now, although she recently 222 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: moved in with her boyfriend in Melbourne because of the 223 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: debacle that is the AFL season at the moment, she 224 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: had to move into the Queensland Hub. Now since then 225 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,119 Speaker 1: she has decided to leave and fly home to quarantine 226 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: in Perth, so you can see how much flying and 227 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: traveling around she's done in the past couple of months. 228 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: And this has made people feel very uncomfortable and angry. 229 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: And I suppose influencers are in their right to travel 230 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: the in states like Queensland, and you know that's fine, 231 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's just tone deaf. I think we 232 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: touched on it last week. I mean even Sarah's day 233 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: has now been traveling. I think it was to Cannes 234 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and also to Byron Bay to plan for her wedding. 235 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: And I just think that there needs to be some 236 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of disclaimer on these influencers' stories saying hey, I'm 237 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: actually in a privileged position where one I can afford 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to travel and two that we're making sure we're being 239 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: safe and we know that their people are in lockdown 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: in Melbourne. I just think it's a bit But is 241 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: it unfair to pick on because I can understand if 242 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: you're in victory and you're doing the wrong thing, then 243 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: that's terrible. But you know, in South Australia, we're still 244 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: able to travel in New South Wales. The people are 245 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: still traveling in Queensland. You know, is it okay for 246 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: them to do it? Or do you think that it's 247 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: because there are so many people in lockdown in Victoria 248 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: that they might not want to see these people traveling 249 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: around the state. I personally think it's the sense of 250 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: entitlement from some of the influences that is leaving a 251 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: bad taste in people's mouths. I mean, even when we're 252 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: not in this pandemic situation, these people are always traveling 253 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: around the world. But it's their job. I know it's 254 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: their job, but I think there's also that jealousy factor there. 255 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: And well, I mean particularly with Shanni, who, to me, 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: I think she's decided to go and stay with her 257 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend when Corona is at high numbers in Melbourne, Why 258 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: doesn't she just stay put? Yeah, I think it's a 259 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: very entitled and privileged thing to be able to afford 260 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: to leave Melbourne and then go into a hotel lockdown 261 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: in Queensland to fit the bill, because not a lot 262 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: of people are going to have two eight hundred dollars 263 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to do. Bet it was her excuse as well. She's like, oh, 264 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, I've visited Tommy and now I really need 265 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: to visit my own family. And it's like, well, not 266 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: everyone everyone. There's so many people who have been away 267 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: from their families now for months on it. Even people 268 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: locked in their houses in Melbourne that might have family 269 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: on the same street as them, they can't go and 270 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: hang out with them. Yeah. I totally get the privileged thing. 271 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: But if I was here, jeez, I'd be getting out 272 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: of Melbourne, if I was from a Queenslent. I want 273 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: to go and make sure. But family, they don't know 274 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: how long they become locked or if people are going 275 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: to be not allowed to go home. I totally understand that, 276 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: and everyone is in such a difficult and unprecedented situation. 277 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: But I think the thing that is leaving a bad 278 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: taste in people's mouths is a lot of people don't 279 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: have the money to just decide that they're going to 280 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: do it. But I think it's a good thing that 281 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: they're making an expensive thing to do, because otherwise, I mean, 282 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: we've seen it in South Australia. We've had a lot 283 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: of people come home from Victoria and that has made 284 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: the virus spread. You know that we've had a few 285 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: cases here as well. So I can see. I think 286 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: it's good that they're making it quite difficult too. I 287 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: think it's good that they're not making the government have 288 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: to fit the bill, like if you've decided to come 289 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: over late, you should have to pay. And when you 290 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: say the government, you mean tax payers. We're all paying 291 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: for it. 292 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 293 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, we're not 294 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: condemning influencers who have been traveling when they're allowed to travel, 295 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: but we're just saying it would be really nice for 296 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: it to come with a disclaimer about their privilege to 297 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: be able to do that, because you know, I think 298 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: in Adelaide we're super lucky to be able to go 299 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: to work and you know, go camp to go camping. 300 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's an interesting one. I am looking forward 301 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: to the vlog Shani does release on her Lockdown. I'm 302 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: hoping this actually sparks her releasing videos because she hasn't 303 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: put one up for a month now, so let's fingers crossed. 304 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: I think it will be a great insight into Lockdown. Hello, 305 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: my little chickens, Welcome back to another video. Now let's 306 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: get into the pit and the peak of the social 307 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: media week. Now, the peak for me has to be 308 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: the fact that Sam Mangan, who is famous for his 309 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: hilarious rants on Instagram, has returned to posting regular Instagram 310 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: stories and his podcast is finally back. It had a 311 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: little bit of a hiatus during Corona, but he's back 312 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: because he's got a personal assistant now that's keep him 313 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: on task. I'm obsessed with this podcast. I feel like 314 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: it is so rare to hear people speaking their mind 315 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: and not copying bullshit from it because you can just 316 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: tell that he comes from such a hilarious perspective, but 317 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: also he's just so intelligent and articulates himself so well. 318 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: It is one podcast I find myself just absolutely laughing 319 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: out loud listening to. So I'd highly recommend it or 320 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: put it in the show notes below if anyone wants 321 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: to check it out. Yes, it's called literally Nobody Cares, 322 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: and he just rants about all the Karens in the 323 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: world and the people that are doing the wrong thing 324 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: with coronavirus. So yeah, please have a listen. It's hilarious. 325 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Moving into the pit. It has to be a video 326 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: and id TV I found on Tim from Bachelor in 327 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Paradise is. I suppose it's his new Instagram account for 328 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: his apparel line he's bringing out. Oh I'm shocked he's 329 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: bringing out an apparel line to go ahead with the 330 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: filming of Bachelor in Paradise. That's unusual. Well, anyone who 331 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: does love to watch sort of you know, mindless YouTube. 332 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: I would literally go on to his Instagram and look 333 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: at the one he's done. It's about launching his brand. 334 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: I laughed so much. I just this sounds terrible, but 335 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I just needed someone to watch it with to roll 336 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: my eyes at because it was literally him going through 337 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: the process of him buying these clothes and you could 338 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: just tell he had no idea what he was doing. 339 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: I was so try I'm sorry, but it was so 340 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: try hard. Fashion in twenty twenty is just absurd at 341 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: the moment. It's kind of like you're just trying to 342 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: look as ridiculous as you can. 343 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: Well. 344 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the outfits, I mean, some of the jumpers 345 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: are quite cool. They have the big, baggy jumpers, but 346 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of it was like really like retro vintage 347 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: track suits that you'd find in an op shop. And 348 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: he did this campaign for the launch of the line, 349 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: and I actually thought it was taking the piss because 350 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: he had these really old school sunglasses on, but it 351 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: was one hundred percent legit. Yeah, I saw that. That 352 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: was so cringe. It's funny. It seems like every influencer 353 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: and reality star are releasing their own lounge where range. 354 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I saw Sammy Robinson's brand one Mile is releasing these 355 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: new track suits and I've got to say they looked 356 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: exactly like Country Roads Heritage. Well do you think there's 357 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: so many copycat ranges coming out because of the immediacy 358 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: of some of these lines, because all these influencers are 359 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: bringing them out really quickly to monopolize on their popularity, 360 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and then they're selling out and not realizing that they 361 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: might be breaching copyright. Lord, Well, it would be fascinating 362 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to know what the process is, because I think it 363 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: seems like a bit of a joke that these influencers 364 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: say that they've designed the range, when usually they've got 365 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: someone in that actually comes back to them with, oh, 366 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: hey do you like this? Yeah? I like it? So 367 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: I suppose they need to be more aware of what's 368 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: going on and look at it from a bigger picture, 369 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: because I think you could get really pigeonholed into like, oh, yeah, 370 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: this design is amazing and then you go into David 371 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Jones and see it's actually Country Road have been doing 372 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: it for the last six months. What do you think 373 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: is because a lot of people are going through the 374 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: same cheap manufacturers as well, they probably have limited patterns 375 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: and designs. 376 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 377 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Well, Tylia Scaines, we touched on it last week, but 378 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: her new lounge range with her boyfriend's launching and I 379 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: suppose it's hard to make plain matching track suits with 380 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: a big brand on the front look different. She's the 381 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: least exciting to Let's get into the reality wrap and 382 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit different this week. 383 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, all of our newsfeeds have been filled 384 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: with Bachelor in Paradise, which I'm actually quite sad it's ended, 385 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: so thank goodness the Bachelor's going to start this week. 386 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: But we thought we'd go to the sources themselves and 387 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: we've had a chat with Narranga and also Renee about 388 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: their time a Bachelor in Paradise and there's some pretty 389 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: explosive things to come out of this chat. Yeah, and 390 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: this is of course off the back of I don't 391 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: know if anyone's been listening to so dramatic. It's a 392 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: podcast that literally spills all the tea on Bachelor and Paradise. 393 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: So we had a chat with Renee in particular about 394 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: some of the explosive stuff that was revealed on that podcast. 395 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: So basically, in a nutshell, what came out was the 396 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: fact that Kiki and Kieran obviously have split up and 397 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: now Kiki and Renee are friends. And it was also 398 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: revealed that Matt actually cheated on Renee with a girl 399 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: that was dating Reese Power, so there was a bit 400 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: of a crossover on when those relationships ended. So I 401 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: feel so sorry for Renee. She was so love I 402 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: really hope that she can become the next Bachelorette. But 403 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: let's first go to our chat with the Range because 404 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: he spilled some serious tea about a fight which happened 405 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: just this weekend with a fellow bachelor. Sta let's get 406 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: into it. So over the weekend, we heard that Rhys 407 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Chiltern from Georgia Love series of The Bachelorette was causing 408 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of drama. Can you feel question going on? 409 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Well? I didn't even know like what until like that morning. Really, Yeah, 410 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: so he's got this like fake relationship going on with Kieley, 411 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: one of the contestants. Oh, this is paradise, but they're 412 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: just doing like a bit of a publicity thing, setting 413 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: up apparazzi shot and yeah, so Keeley, I've met Kelly before, 414 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: and she said I can own Bite the Three, but yeah, sure, 415 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: And we went to drinks and that whole night my 416 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: sister was there and our friends as well, and my 417 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: sister said to me, oh, just being a bit weird, 418 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: like being a bit creepy. I said, I just leave it. 419 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: I don't really know him, man, Like did I continue on? 420 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: And everyone started saying stuff and I was like, wow, 421 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: it was like it's not good. Then Kearley laughed, I 422 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: think on our own accord to this. Yet it's tough 423 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: to do. And we went to a house party and 424 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: Littany caught him out and Littany said, I do I 425 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: think you've got to go in like in emotive a way, 426 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: and he started asking up at her and I said, mate, 427 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: you actually really got to go like stay here. Then yeah, 428 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: he ended up posting that thing after we got kicked 429 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: out of the party, so it's been in appropriate. 430 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if you're going to have a 431 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: sort of fake relationship. You probably want to choose someone 432 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: a bit more well known because they've gone who the 433 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: hell is this guy? So did you meet Renee on 434 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: this this Balley trip that happened where Renee also met Matt? 435 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I was in famous Barley trip where we did. 436 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: We did meet Renee and Matt Renee at the same time. 437 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: Wow, So did you get any sort of sexual tension 438 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: going on between Renee and then? I mean, obviously she's 439 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: very she's very loyal to Kiaran at the time, but 440 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: did you see the sparks flying between those two? 441 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: No? 442 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: I did, really, Like I think everyone just got along, 443 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: like we had such a good time and you know, 444 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: like everyone was dancing, drinking, like this is a whole 445 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: week but one week, and we were all together and 446 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: it was just our friends having a good time. And 447 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: I didn't see anything that was that caught my eye 448 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: with them too. 449 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: So how does a trip like that get organized? Did 450 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: you guys all just see each other on Instagram that 451 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: they were there, or how did it all come together? 452 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: Well, something that I've boys wanted to go to Bali 453 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: is like a bit of a not a detop, but 454 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: get out and just get out of the public and 455 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: because we weren't were allowed to be court seen here, 456 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: so we decided to go to Bali then obviously and 457 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: kiaren It used to date so then yeah, she came 458 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: along and some of the other batchey girls came up. 459 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: So which girls were there? 460 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: Renee was there, Sam was there, and Tara then the 461 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: life like Jess Power and stuff were there, but not 462 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: with us, but they they were that at the same time. 463 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: That's interesting because there's some rumor going around that Jess 464 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Power was dating Matt and then there was this weird 465 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: love octagon going on with all these people off Love 466 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: Island and The Bachelor, and do you know much about that? 467 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, look, I was hanging out with just that 468 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: when they were there. They were actually dating. There was 469 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: no room about that. 470 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, they. 471 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: Were officially together. This was probably when Bachhorette was there, 472 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: and I think from memory, but yeah, that didn't last 473 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: very long. And yeah, I don't know if there was 474 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: anyone else involved in that, but I didn't. Yeah, I 475 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: don't really know any Love Oling contestants, but I know, yeah, 476 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: I hung out with Just a bit and that when 477 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: they were dating. Yeah, they had a pretty good boat 478 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: loving relationship, but I think the whole media thing got 479 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: doing a bit. 480 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about relationships obviously. As Kate mentioned, it's been 481 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: so long since filming took place. Have you found love 482 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: or are you still looking for love? 483 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen a gay every years. That that's 484 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: figgled out and you I've been single ever since, and yeah, 485 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: pretty single right now. 486 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Actually, Well, there's been a lot of calls for you 487 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: to be the Bachelor in twenty twenty one. How would 488 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: you feel about taking on that role and is there 489 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: any truth in that. Have producers asked you to be 490 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: the next Bachelor? 491 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I won't do it even if they do. 492 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Are really Yeah, I think I'm done with the whole 493 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: TV thing. I didn't need this in my life. I 494 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: just wanted to do this as an experience. I love 495 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: my job, and yeah, I wouldn't give my job up 496 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: to do the Bachelor, that's for sure. 497 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's a hard thing because everyone says, you know, 498 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: the Bachelor is meant to be the most eligible man 499 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: in Australia, But it is so difficult because, as you said, 500 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: if you've got a really good job, you're not going 501 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: to give it up. To go on the show. Absolutely, yeah, 502 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that's why they're picking people off reality 503 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: shows like Lockie. 504 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, they have many commitments. 505 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts on diversity in the Bachelor, 506 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: because there's been so much talk about you know, people 507 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: wanted to see more of you on Bachelor in Paradise, 508 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: and we did see more of you at the end 509 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: of the show. But do you think that they need 510 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: to get more diverse with their casting. 511 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think Channel Channel Water Brothers do it 512 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: on purpose. I just think there's not the amount of 513 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: people playing for this, you know, for the role or 514 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: for the for the reality TV shows, just because of 515 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: course the culture and like what their parents and their 516 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: family members are going to see. And I think what 517 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: we have last year, you know, me and Mary and 518 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: I think that gus the ratio, that is what there 519 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 2: is to pick from, and like you know, obviously there 520 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: isn't a whole amount of people to choose from, and 521 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: they do get picked that they're not allowed to go 522 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: because of their parents in fact, so like it would 523 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: be nice to see a lot more, but I would 524 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: recommend people that are you know, people will tell us 525 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: to apply, and I know a lot of people don't 526 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: apply because they're unsure of what they're going to think. 527 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: But I just think, you know, make your own decision 528 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 2: and go out there and give it all. 529 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: On your Instagram stories, you did mention that you had 530 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: to deal with racism on Bachelor in Paradise. What was 531 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that experience like and was that adequate support provided to 532 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: you by a Channel ten and Warner Brothers. 533 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: Well, I Embery said it was racial stuff that I 534 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: pickpointed some stuff that weren't nice and people that have 535 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: been racial and you know, take that as it is 536 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: racial enough. But the yeah, Water Brothers and Chas and 537 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: are very supportive in regards to your mental health than 538 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: what people say about you. But yeah, so I think 539 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: some people in the past need to have a little 540 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: bit more awareness of what they do what they say, 541 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 2: because it is twenty twenty and people really, you know, 542 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: get affected by these things and people take little comments 543 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: at the heart. So but it's a shame because you know, 544 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: these people that these says this stuff, they don't really 545 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: believe they do say it. When they're watching yourself on TV. 546 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: It's like, well that's dude, you know, edything about it. 547 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: I know you touched on it also on Instagram about 548 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: people saying they were edited badly. What did you think 549 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: about that? 550 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I think Jamie he's that two years. But 551 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: then when you go put like our wars like comics 552 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: up and I asked a little bit too far. I 553 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: think that's where it hit the point to him, like 554 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: you don't have to do that cartoony shit, like Jamie's 555 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: going to give you content. You know, he doesn't have 556 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: to be edited. He will give it here. Yeah, but 557 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: when you go above and beyond what it gives you, 558 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: and that's a bit that's not right, you know. So 559 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: I can understand there. But then when some people say 560 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: they were edited the whole time, like, well, that's their personality, 561 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, that's who they are. 562 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: And what did you think of Tim and Kieran's behavior 563 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise There was a lot of talk 564 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: about a bit of like toxic masculinity going on. What 565 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: was your view from someone that was actually, they're watching 566 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it all unfold. 567 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: Like I knew them both, and I knew that, you know, 568 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: that's your personality, and they're they're they're and they're making 569 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: great TV. You know, obvious Australia still love them and 570 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: who they're getting the hate. They look at the amount 571 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: of followers they're getting and like they got the following 572 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: there and it's just they're making TV and a lot 573 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: of it is you know, deep down they're actually quite 574 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: like nice blokes and they mean well, but you know, 575 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: when they're when they're there in front of a TV 576 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: it's a little bit different to the show at the 577 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: end of the day. But I know some stuff, I 578 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: don't condone what they did. I know they you know 579 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: Kieran definitely, you know, except there's something that got picked up. 580 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, the end of the day, they they're making 581 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: TV show and I guess they did that. 582 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Are you able to touch on obviously we haven't heard 583 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: much of you in the media, and obviously we're so 584 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: thankful that you're in our podcast. You know, how has 585 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: it been dealing with Channel ten. I suppose it seems 586 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to silence you or you know, 587 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: they're very selective of who they put forward to the media. 588 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, it's interesting because I get a lot 589 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: of like messages and follow like not follow us, but 590 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: like all my life and comments. But I don't think 591 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: we get followed. I don't know why, but maybe it's 592 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: that because I'm not value to them. By end of 593 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: the day, it's the business that they run, and I 594 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: accept that, and I think more people have to accept that. 595 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: So my brand obviously is a man when there's a 596 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: lot of other people that's got the following, the backing, 597 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: so they maybe invest their time and money into that. 598 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: And I understand that completely because if part of the business, 599 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: I didn't acting, it's a. 600 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Decision because I feel like so many people want to 601 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: hear from you. I mean, we've heard the same thing 602 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: from Cash, she said. Channel ten have sort of not 603 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: put her forward for interviews either, and I feel like, 604 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, you guys had that episode that was much 605 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: talked about your dage, and I feel like everyone would 606 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: have loved to have heard from you guys at that point. 607 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: So it's very it seems very odd to me. 608 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, so I guess I don't want me 609 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: to come out and that too. Be careful on that frat. Oh, 610 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, it's a very fine line 611 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: on what we can talk about and stuff, but I'm 612 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: very open to it. Like I'm not going to go 613 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: keys anyone of that, but I would tell them how 614 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: it is and what they need to do, you know, 615 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: have self awareness. 616 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hopefully we can hear more of you. And 617 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I just actually had a quick look at 618 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: your Instagram. I didn't realize you only had ten thousand followers. 619 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: I would have thought it'd be about one hundred by now. 620 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: So you know, listens, Yeah, go and follow Narranga. 621 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'll give me a shout out. Yeah. 622 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Slide into Narranger's DMS. Everyone. Wow, that was some pretty 623 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: juicy details from Narranger. I can't believe he said he 624 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: would not be the Bachelor if he's asked by ten. 625 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: That was pretty surprising. It does seem like there's something 626 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: not quite right going on with Channel ten and Narranger. 627 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: All right, so now we have a double dose of 628 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: teas being spilt. Let's move into Rene's interview. It's been 629 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: a hectic twenty four hours for you since the last 630 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: episode Bachelor in Paradise. 631 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, finally glad that I'm able to be honest about everything, 632 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: because it was a little bit difficult for a number 633 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: of weeks there. But I'm very overwhelmed with the amount 634 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: of support that Australia has given me and yeah, everything's 635 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: been really good. I'm glad now that I've finally been 636 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: able to say that. Look, Madam and I aren't together, 637 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: but we are still friends. And yes, I have spoken 638 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: him since being ambushing on another podcast, but we have 639 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: spoken and everything is okay. 640 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I did feel a little bit sorry for you when 641 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: you were on the So Dramatic podcast because it sort 642 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: of seems like you got this call out of the blue, 643 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: because you were like that, Hello, what was that like. 644 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: I've really felt for you because obviously there were a 645 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: few things that came up that would have been really 646 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: hard to deal with hearing that first hand live on 647 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: a podcast. How are you going? 648 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, Look, I'm okay. Obviously it was it was 649 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: quite hard. But I think my initial reaction to bad 650 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: news as I laugh. I can't help it. I just 651 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: have this thing where something bad happens I laugh. So 652 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: you do hear me saying, oh my god, this is ridiculous, 653 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: and I'm having to giggle to myself. But I think 654 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: when I got off the phone, I was able to 655 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: kind of process what actually just happened. And I mean 656 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 3: I was quite shocked. But I've spoken to Matt, and 657 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: we've you know, had had a few conversations about it. 658 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to get into it, like any 659 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: further because I just don't think there's any point and 660 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: Matt will speak about it when he's ready to. But yeah, 661 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: it was hectic. I didn't know what to say. 662 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh are you poor thing? Yeah, that's fine, we won't 663 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: go into any further. I think you had enough to 664 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: say on the podcast. Unfortunately, we could not ask how 665 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: do you know Megan from so dramatic? She seems to 666 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: have all these inns with all the Bachelor contestants. Have 667 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: you had a friendship with her for a while? And 668 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: is she friends with a lot of other people on 669 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: the show? 670 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, she's friends with a lot of people. She's 671 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: actually really nice, a nice girl. I think she worked 672 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: with Daily Mail and she worked on Kyl and Jackie 673 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: Oh for a while. So yeah, she just I don't know, honestly, 674 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: she just reaches out to you and then you kind 675 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: of go from there. That's yeah, So we've been well, 676 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: we've been friends for a while. So she's also really 677 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: good friends with Kieren too, which I mean is unfortunate, 678 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: but it is what it is. 679 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, It was. 680 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Making me think because I've been loving that podcast and 681 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, she always seems to be at all the 682 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: events like Jackson's birthday party, and I'm like, how does 683 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: she know all this stuff? It's crazy. 684 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she just lies in near DMS. Yeah. 685 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, obviously Kiki was also on this podcast, and the 686 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: bit I loved that came out of the whole show 687 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: was the fact that you guys are now friends. Can 688 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: you talk us through how this all started? 689 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Kiki and Kieran obviously didn't work out, and 690 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: there was a number of things that happened. But Kiki, honestly, 691 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: she reached out to me because when we were filming, 692 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: I said to her, regardless if you're with Karen or 693 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: you're not with Karen, I'm always going to support you, 694 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: and I think it's really important to lift to women 695 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: are So I just got it. She felt comfortable enough 696 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: to come and speak to me, and yeah, it just 697 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: kind of started from there. We were having chats about 698 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: things and I was trying to make her laugh and 699 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: just take her focus elsewhere because she was very hurt. 700 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: And I guess I can safely say that I've gone 701 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: through the same thing and I don't want anybody to 702 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: go through that, which was really hard for me to 703 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: listen to how hurt she was. But yeah, out of 704 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: all this, I'm just glad that we're really good friends. 705 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: We speak almost daily, which is great. 706 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that's so lovely. I think that just shows what 707 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: a lovely person you are and why Australia fell in 708 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: love with you on the show, because it would take 709 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot to do that. And I really felt for 710 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: you watching the show because it would have been so 711 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: hard sitting there watching your ex, who you hadn't really 712 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: broken up with that long ago, watching him hooking up 713 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: with other girls. What was it really like? Because obviously 714 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: we see a very short version of the events, but 715 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: how are you feeling in Paradise when all of that 716 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: was going on. 717 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's not something that anybody should really put 718 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: themselves through. I didn't obviously. I spoke to my family 719 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: and friends and we kind of weighed up the pros 720 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: and gone about going on this show. So I think 721 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: it was important for me to be like, well, you 722 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: know what, I make the decisions in my life. I 723 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: am going to do this. So I did do it 724 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: to myself, but it was extremely difficult you know, having 725 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: an ex there that is with somebody who happens to 726 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: be your friend, then hearing all of these other things, 727 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: but also the fact that he was doing it in 728 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: front of me, so I would have to take myself 729 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: out of situations because I just didn't want to see it, 730 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: which worked for me. But yeah, honestly, it was really 731 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: really difficult. The first two weeks of Paradise was probably 732 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: hell for me. So when Matt did come in, especially 733 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: when my paradise started, because I was able to kind 734 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: of have my own happiness in a sense, and Matt 735 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: was just amazing, just so humble with everything but stuck 736 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: up for himself at the same time he had my back. Yeah, 737 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: so when he came it got a lot better. But 738 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: the first two weeks was really quite difficult and honestly 739 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: did play on my mental health quite a lot. But 740 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: obviously Channel ten and Warner Brothers put people in place, 741 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: so I was able to talk to people and I 742 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: was fine. It was very supportive. 743 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear that you had support, because 744 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of discussion about that support 745 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: on reality TV, so it's it's positive that you are 746 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: saying that you got what you needed. Oh. 747 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they were really good with me. 748 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's awesome. Well, I'm sorry to keep talking 749 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: about Kieren because I'm so sure you're sick of hearing 750 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: about him. One thing when I was watching the show 751 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: is because it was filmed so long ago and then 752 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing it, you know, eight months later or whatever 753 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: it was, the timeline of your relationship was really confusing 754 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: because there was discussion about him leaving Andie kent series 755 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: to go and see you can you take us back 756 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: and talk us through the actual timeline of events because 757 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: when I was watching it, I didn't realize that it had 758 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: only been four weeks since you guys split. Yeah, that's 759 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Yeah. 760 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: So the timeline of Paradise, I found out he cheated 761 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 3: on me, so and then a week after that, I 762 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: got a phone call from producers about, you know, well 763 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: will I be on the shows. That's when I kind 764 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: of had to think about it for a couple of days. 765 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: So I had three weeks until I was supposed to leave. 766 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: I think it was four days before I was supposed 767 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: to leave. I pulled out and then I was like, no, no, 768 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this, Like I feel like it's 769 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: right for me and have to trust my guard on this. 770 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was honestly, it was a very short time. 771 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: Well that makes more sense why you would bring that 772 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: ring to paradise and think that there was a chance 773 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: that you might be able to rekindle things. 774 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean before we before I found out he 775 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: had cheated on me, he did make mention of, oh, 776 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: look if we're both on paradise and let's let's rekindle. 777 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: And it wasn't really a rekindle. Rekindle it's probably not 778 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: the right right word to use because we were together 779 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: at that point, but it was more about he wanted 780 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: to show it off in a sense. But then everything 781 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: fell out the window when he cheated on me, because 782 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: I don't condone that, and yeah, that's stuff where we're at. 783 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: So I thought, well, do I bring the ring to 784 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: give to him because it was a present from me, 785 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: Like do I just give it to him? But then yeah, 786 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: I just there was just so much that happened, and 787 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: the more I thought about it, the more I was like, fuck, 788 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have bought this ring. And then obviously you 789 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: saw Alisha and I having a big chat and she 790 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 3: was very much my rock in Paradise, and the fact 791 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 3: that we got to have that moment together was just 792 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: sooth special. 793 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: Alicia just seems to be the biggest legend. We really 794 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: want to get her on the show and have a chat. 795 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: She seems amazing. 796 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: I'll have a chat to her and make sure she 797 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: is on the podcast. 798 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: That would be great. What was that feeling like when 799 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: you did chuck that ring away? I can imagine it 800 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: would have felt like a huge weight off your shoulders, A. 801 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: Massive weight off my shoulders, almost like I felt like 802 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: a new woman. It's really cliche to say, but it's 803 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: kind of true. I don't know. I could just have 804 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: this like I don't like negative energy, and I was 805 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: thinking about it and when Alisha said to me, let's 806 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: get rid of out, like, yeah, you know what, let's 807 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: do it. You know, it could be a sock, it 808 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: could be a plate, or just something of your exes. 809 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: And I just think it's so importantly just get rid 810 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: of it, because once you get rid of that negative energy, 811 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: you allow positive things to come into your life. And 812 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: since I did that through that ring away, it just 813 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 3: it opened so very much emotion out of me where 814 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: I could actually give that back to that because I 815 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: was feeling like I was sitting at fifty percent and 816 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't move forward. But yeah, strangely enough, throwing the 817 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 3: ring out, I was like, yeah, I'm ready for this, 818 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: so like you are who I want. 819 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: I love it because I actually sold a necklace that 820 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend gave to me on Marketplace and it 821 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: was great, getting good money for it. I was like, 822 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: this is fabulous. 823 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 3: It was probably not, as I've been having a couple 824 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: of comments on DMS. People come into my DM saying 825 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: you should have sold it, and I was like, I 826 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: was on a remote island in bloody Fiji. I just 827 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 3: no way I could have sold that. 828 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I think Michael from Maths was selling his wedding ring, 829 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: but he kind of like everyone kind of frowned upon it. 830 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: So I think you did the right thing throwing it away. 831 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I don't want to give like negative 832 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: energy into somebody else's life, you know what I mean. 833 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: So it's just easier to throw that thing in the 834 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 3: ocean and we're done with it. I think the funniest 835 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: part of this whole thing was when I threw it, 836 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 3: it didn't actually go that far. So we're sitting here, 837 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm watching it laughing so hard because they've got this 838 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: overview as if I've thrown It's so fun. I'm like, no, 839 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: it literally went like that way. 840 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: And it just like floats back to the. 841 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: Oh no, when the tie goes out, you're for it was. 842 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Since appearing on Bachelor in Parata, so much has obviously 843 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: come out about Kieran and all the women he seems 844 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: to be talking to on Instagram, and one of those 845 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: has been Tully smythe I don't know if you heard 846 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: her podcast with him. 847 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: I have, yeah, I have heard. 848 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts, because after listening 849 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: to it, it sort of seemed it was really confusing 850 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: because it seemed like she was almost condoning his behavior, 851 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know, it felt like there was still 852 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: something almost going on between the two. Was very odd. 853 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 854 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: So I know that Tully reached out to Alisha and 855 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: they've had a couple of private conversations about it. And 856 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: obviously Lisha and I are very close, so I know 857 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: a lot that's happened. I think I don't believe that 858 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: she was condoning his behavior, although it did look like that, 859 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: and I think that was the argument that we were 860 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: having with her. But I think she has also gone 861 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: through similar things that Kitty and Jess have gone through, 862 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: where she has gotten to know this guy, to like 863 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: this guy and thought that it was something and then 864 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: he's kind of turned around and said, hey, no, we're's friends. 865 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot more to that story 866 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 3: than what she is actually saying. And I think for 867 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: personal reasons, she's not going to say anything further, which 868 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 3: is fine, But I honestly think that she's going through 869 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: her own herd at the moment, which is really sad. 870 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: It is it's just these guys. There's so many guys 871 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: out there that seem to do the same thing, and 872 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: I know we've probably got a lot of listeners who 873 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: might be going through something similar or might be thinking, 874 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 1: oh shit, am I dating this little fuck boy? Like Karen. 875 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: Is there any sort of clues or advice you can 876 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: give to people? How can you spot a fuck boy? 877 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: Basically, to be honest with you, I think one of 878 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: the main things that I noticed in my relationship with 879 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: Kinteran after the Bachelor of Bacherette stuff is he would 880 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: always be on his phone, which is fine, Like, do 881 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 3: what you've got to do. But if you're sitting down 882 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 3: together having dinner or doing something and his phone is 883 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 3: being turned upside down, big red flag, because that means 884 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't want you to see what is on his phone. 885 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: Another thing is I mean I didn't see this until 886 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: after and he did end up coming out and telling me, 887 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: but he was also messaging other girls so while I 888 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 3: was asleep. Although I can't you know, I couldn't see 889 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: that for myself. We just I think you really just 890 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: have to trust you that if something is not right, 891 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 3: then I guarantee you it's not right. 892 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: Those are some great tips. Was he really ultra charming 893 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: as well? Because obviously everyone loved him on Angie series. 894 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking, does he really turn it on when 895 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: he's with you? Oh? 896 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 3: He does. He's he's such a great charmer. He says 897 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 3: all of the right things. But like I said Takiki 898 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: on the So Dramatic podcast, it's like he promises you 899 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: the world, but he delivers peanuts. That's literally what it is. 900 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: He's very good at his words. 901 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: You know. 902 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 3: Although we've had a really rough time, he is a 903 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: great guy. But I think he's a great guy as 904 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: a friend. A relationship completely different ballgame. His behavior is 905 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: just absolutely disgusting, But as a friend, he's great, So 906 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's a lot of things 907 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: that he needs to work on, but that's he's got 908 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: to thought that out with himself. Really, I'm just glad 909 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm not a part of that anymore. 910 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: Well, you obviously with Kieran before he was on the Bachelorette, 911 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: was his behavior a little bit different then? Or is 912 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: it because he's sort of got this profile now that 913 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: he's just gone sort of crazy on Instagram messaging everyone. 914 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 915 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not gonna lie. When before this batch stuff happened, 916 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: he was a completely different person. And I think it's 917 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: hard when you go from being technically almost a nobody 918 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: to someone somebody overnight. It's very overwhelming and it's now 919 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 3: happening to me. But the good thing about the fact 920 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: that it's happening to me, I'm a very grounded person. 921 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: I have great family and friends that keep me grounded. 922 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 3: My job keeps me so I don't believe that I'm 923 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: ever going to change as a person, and I'm going 924 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 3: to make sure that doesn't happen. But unfortunately for him, Yeah, 925 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 3: he just he changed and it was really sad because 926 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: I saw him go from you know, such a great 927 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: guy to just somebody that I didn't even know overnight. 928 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: That is so sad. It is quite amusing, though, because 929 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: I noticed on Batch Funny they posted some insights from 930 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: a website called social Blade, which tracks all of you know, 931 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: the number of likes, and it was something crazy that 932 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: you were getting six thousand followers a day and he 933 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: was losing about the same amount. 934 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, I know, it's definitely. I only know 935 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: this because I've been ie office to follow that page. 936 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's gone down, that's for sure. 937 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are following each other anymore. 938 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: I think that's what I hurd on so dramatic. But 939 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: have you seen Kieran's new haircut? And if so, what 940 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? 941 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to be nasty, but I had looked 942 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 3: at the picture. I actually got senter from a number 943 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: of different people, so I saw it and I just thought, 944 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 3: holy crapy having a midlast class. 945 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: I was wondering if there's something to do with COVID 946 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: or maybe he didn't want to be recognized. But then 947 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on, I'm not. 948 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: Sure, but his hair was his everything, like he would 949 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 3: have done anything for his hair. So I'm I'm really 950 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 3: shocked that he's cut it all off. But hey, like, yeah, 951 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: but I had long hair at one point and I 952 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 3: cut it off to my shoulders and then I immediately 953 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: rutted it after. But I guess it's just hair. It 954 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 3: does go back. But I was very yeah, I was like, 955 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: I'm pink the hell. 956 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: I know everyone was. Really I was shocked when I 957 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: saw it. It's not like you can get hair extensions either, 958 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: because you know when women cut their hair, it's like, oh, 959 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm just banging these hair extend. No, once it's grown. 960 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 3: A bit, you definitely see the extensions if he does. 961 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: It away from Kieran, because obviously there's so much more 962 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: going on with you than Kieran and we, as we said, 963 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: Australia has fallen in love with you, and there are 964 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: rumors that you potentially maybe the bachelorette next year. Is 965 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: there any truth to those rumors? And would you like 966 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: to be the bachelorette? 967 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: Look, at this point, it's all speculation. I think I'm 968 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 3: just absolutely sighted that people were saying that that's so lovely, 969 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: but I one hundred percent I would do it. I 970 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: think that's that would be a great opportunity, but I'd 971 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: have to really think about it too, because I have 972 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: such a great job, you know, I work with primary 973 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: health care with Indigenous communities any Anti. It's such a 974 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: graving job. I love it, So I don't know if 975 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 3: I could actually get that up. But I definitely think 976 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 3: Australia needs to get behind the fact that we need 977 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: a strong, intelligent, beautiful Indigenous woman to represent them for 978 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 3: the Bachelorette. 979 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: Hundred percent. 980 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: Oh that would be so amazing. We need to start 981 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: a campaign to get you as bachelorette. Because I was 982 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: pretty I was pretty disappointed with the Channel ten selection. 983 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: No offense to Ellie and assistant, but it was like, really, 984 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: like is that Yeah. 985 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 3: Look, I think all of us were a bit like that. 986 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 3: I really thought there was going to be a bit 987 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: of diversity this year, but me unfortunately, And I mean 988 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: Ellie's great, a great chick. I don't actually know her 989 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: sister from a Baraso, but I obviously know Ellie and 990 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 3: she is a lovely human. But yeah, just a bit disappointed. 991 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's a same thing again. 992 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we spoke to Narranga before, and we were 993 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: saying to Narranga, there's been so much talk about him also, 994 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, being the Bachelor next year, but he said 995 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: he didn't want to be it because he didn't want 996 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: to leave his job, which is totally understandable. But who 997 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: would you like to see as the bachelor next year? 998 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm kind of sick of seeing reality TV, you know, 999 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: like Locky from Survivor who really cares? We kind of 1000 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: want to see real guys. 1001 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1002 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think I think it would be really nice 1003 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: to have just have a random Joe blow that is 1004 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 3: actually doing it for the right reasons and not for 1005 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 3: you know, fame and all that kind of stuff. I 1006 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 3: think that would be nice. I'd just like to see 1007 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: more diversity, I think, Like I'm just I'm so passionate 1008 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: about that. And fingers crossed that channel term Warner Brothers 1009 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 3: get involved this time. 1010 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. It's taken way too long in America, 1011 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 1: but it seems finally that there's some movement there and 1012 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: there's stuff happening in that space, so hopefully it gets 1013 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: better here as well. 1014 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope we jump on the same dand wagon. Obviously, 1015 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: the conversations have to happen because we need to really 1016 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: start getting diversity on TV, and they really need to 1017 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 3: put somebody of color on national television to try and 1018 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: find love because I think it would get some serious 1019 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 3: traction and people will be really invested in that. So 1020 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 3: really it's in their best interest to do it. That's 1021 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: just that's just it. 1022 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're officially starting our campaign then to have 1023 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: you as the bachelor. Didn't We were talking about having 1024 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield. We were like hoping that she'd come out 1025 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: as this year's bachelorette and thinking, like, a bye, because 1026 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: she came out as by it would be awesome to 1027 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: have women and men competing for her love. We thought that. 1028 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 3: Would be a cool absolutely, and I honestly, in all honestly, 1029 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: I thought she would be this year. I just had 1030 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 3: this feeling. And then when I found out it was Ellie, 1031 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, so I mean that's great 1032 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: for her, but yeah, I would have loved seeing Abbi 1033 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 3: do that. Absolutely. 1034 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just all a part of twenty twenty being disappointing, 1035 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: and next year twenty one, it's all about diversity on 1036 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: the Thank God for Bachelor in Paradise getting us all 1037 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: through this period. Gosh, I just love her. She is 1038 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: so lovely and I really hope we see her as 1039 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: bachelorette in twenty twenty one. Chantan would be mad not 1040 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: to bring her on. She is exactly what the show needs. Now. 1041 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: I know we said that we were going to do 1042 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,959 Speaker 1: it about Abby Chatfield, but we're actually going to stick 1043 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: to our word and we're going to make a petition 1044 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: to get Renee as the bachelorette for next season because 1045 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: we need this in our lives. Can I just interject though, 1046 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to see Brittany as a bachelorette as well. 1047 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: So way, wait now, when you say Brittany, you mean 1048 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: Brittany from lifeung Cut. That's right, that's right. I don't 1049 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: mean Litnany. Oh, poor Litany. Maybe Brittany and Renee could 1050 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: be Yeah, that would be the two instead of bloody 1051 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: Alien her sister. Did you see it? Would look? I 1052 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: would vote Renee because I think it's exactly what Australia needs. 1053 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: She's so lovely, she's been hurt by Kier and she 1054 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: needs a nice guy in her life, and we need 1055 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: some diversity. It would be amazing to have an Indigenous Bachelorette. 1056 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: Please give it a thumbs up, give it a life 1057 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 3: because it released supports channel. 1058 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: Now let's get into awkward turtle for the week now, kay, 1059 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: you have an hilarious one coming from our father. Yes. So, 1060 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if anyone else's dads do this, but 1061 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: our dad often writes to the letters to the editor 1062 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: in the newspaper because he's retired, and I think that's 1063 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: something that you do when you're retired. So he had 1064 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: a complaint about a local counselor who had put up 1065 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of posters in the street promoting him 1066 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: to be elected. Now the posters were falling down, so 1067 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: that's what Dad's issue with him was, and he said 1068 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: that he would put him number seventh in his vote. 1069 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: So that night, after the letter appeared in the paper, 1070 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: Dad received a phone call from the counselor that he 1071 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: was bagging out, and the counselor said, oh, thanks for 1072 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: your vote at number seven and Dad told him to 1073 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: get lost. All those were his words. I'm not sure 1074 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: what actually happened. And then the next day Dad was 1075 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: standing out the front of his house having a cigarette 1076 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: like he normally does, and he noticed a sports car 1077 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: driving back and forth past the house, and it was 1078 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: the guy that was on the poster in the car. 1079 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: This guy sounds psychotic. Yeah, he then caught Dad's eye 1080 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: trying to intimidate him, and then gave him Dad explained 1081 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: to as the victory signs. I think that's the peace sign. Well, 1082 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: it's so funny because after we heard this, we were 1083 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: all discussing who is pettier in that situation, Dad for 1084 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: writing the petty letter to the editor or this man 1085 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: driving past his house. This man, he sounds like an 1086 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: ego maniac just because someone said something slightly negative about it. 1087 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: And it is absolute craziness because we can imagine Dad 1088 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: telling us this story and exaggerating what happened. But our 1089 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: mother confirmed this or this is absolute craziness. And I think, 1090 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: doesn't this guy realize Dad's probably going to write another 1091 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: letter to the editor there, I know all call five 1092 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: double A. Who knows? I think he think he's trying 1093 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: to intimidate Dad to be quiet. Well, I'm sure we'll 1094 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: get an update at family dinner if any other crazy 1095 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: things have occurred. No, please, please God. Well, I think 1096 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so much. 1097 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 1: For listening. 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