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Speaker 1: thanks again for tuning in to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Unplayed Podcast. A bit of a sobering day here at

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Speaker 1: the Adelaide Oval. We've been watching training, we've been doing

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Speaker 1: press conferences, but in light of the events at Bondai yesterday,

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Speaker 1: as we record this, obviously our hearts go out to

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Speaker 1: all the affected victims and the people of Bondai and

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Speaker 1: the Jewish community in general. It's been a sad day

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Speaker 1: for them. And yeah, our hearts go out to all

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Speaker 1: of those people affected. Both the players who we spoke

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Speaker 1: to today were asked about it and their sympathies have gone

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Speaker 1: out as well. So our thoughts are with you and

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Speaker 1: all affected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel a bit silly covering what were you

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Speaker 2: think is a big cricket series on day as sad

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Speaker 2: as this. Nathan Lyon had a lovely park commemorated in

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Speaker 2: his honor today, particularly commemorating his performance in a game

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Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen fifteen that came right on the back

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Speaker 2: of the Phil Hughes tragedy. Obviously very different scale to

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Speaker 2: those two, you know, horrific kind of events, you know,

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Speaker 2: two of the more horrific events I can kind of

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Speaker 2: we're back at Adelaide or ten years later and talking

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Speaker 2: about something really tough yet. I mean, all we can

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Speaker 2: say is that we're thinking of the victims, we're thinking

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Speaker 2: of the Jewish community in particular, and hopefully the cricket

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Speaker 2: can you know, probably the first big national event since

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Speaker 2: since the tragedy, you know, can bring some lot to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well said, and with all that being said, we

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Speaker 1: do have a great chat with Jake weather Ld came

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Speaker 1: good one to hang around for. Lou and you two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I wasn't sure if Jake could want to

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Speaker 2: Jake obviously spent pretty much his entire childhood there before

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Speaker 2: way back, and I know his family and his mum

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Speaker 1: But he also gave us an insight into that Steve

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Speaker 1: Okay, what changes are we going to see for Australia.

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Speaker 1: We've got Pat Cummins coming back in, Nathan Lyon you

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Speaker 2: Ultimately it's probably three changes. But they sprang a surprise

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Speaker 2: Bowling is a bit of a way off him. Obviously

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Speaker 2: batting is his primary skill. So yeah, Jack Skeets are

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Speaker 2: not here again. I think they're probably playing their best

436
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Speaker 2: spinner from a little love scene in the.

437
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Speaker 1: Nets and strengthens that tail up quite a bit. So

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Speaker 1: he was pretty impressive in Brisbane with the bat the

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Speaker 1: top seven for England. As we said, they have been

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Speaker 1: given the go ahead to do it all again. Harry

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Speaker 1: Brooks said that he made some mistakes in the first

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Speaker 1: two tests and has decided to rein it in and

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Speaker 1: Ben Stokes has said they want to absorb more pressure.

444
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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, this basball helter skelter stuff

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Speaker 1: that we had been talked about, we had been talked

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Speaker 1: about for so many years, has now all of a

447
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Speaker 1: sudden being curbed and we're getting a very different approach

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Speaker 1: from England going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's an interesting one. I think that you know,

450
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Speaker 2: you think about the language we heard in twenty twenty

451
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Speaker 2: three Brooke was talking about bashing Nathan Lyne out of

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Speaker 2: the attack and hitting fours and sixes off him, and

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Speaker 2: when asked a very similar question today, it was, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we want to attack him where possible, but we might

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Speaker 2: have to kind of rotate the strike a bit more

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Speaker 2: off him. He's now a leader in this team, he's

457
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Speaker 2: the vice captain of the side, and so he's not

458
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Speaker 2: just a guy who needs to come in and whack

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Speaker 2: him from number five. There is a sense that this

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Speaker 2: tool is about basball being kind of grown up, and

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Speaker 2: you know, like Brendan McCallum doesn't love the term basball

462
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Speaker 2: because he thinks it's reductive and maybe that's fair enough

463
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Speaker 2: as well. But on the evidence of what we've seen,

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Speaker 2: it's been a confused roach batters. It just looked like

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Speaker 2: they have been encouraged to bat a certain way that's

466
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Speaker 2: worked in England, and you know, why wouldn't they continue

467
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Speaker 2: to try that in Australia Like that's been what's been success,

468
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Speaker 2: not only successful in England, but encouraged by Stokes and McCallum.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, after you know, that didn't work

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Speaker 2: through the first you know, three and a half innings,

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Speaker 2: Stokes and Jack's bat out that full afternoon session in Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: They didn't really move the game at all. I think

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Speaker 2: in hindsight that was probably a time when England probably

474
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Speaker 2: should have attacked. They were behind in the game, that

475
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Speaker 2: was the best time for batting. They probably need to

476
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Speaker 2: roll the dice and go after Australia. So and then

477
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Speaker 2: you know, Stokes comes out and says, you know, my

478
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Speaker 2: dressing room is no place for weak men. It kind

479
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Speaker 2: of he didn't say this, but it kind of implies

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Speaker 2: that how they had gone out the previous evening, you know,

481
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Speaker 2: and maybe even in the first innings and going back

482
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Speaker 2: to Perth. That was a week that was kind of

483
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Speaker 2: weakness from Land team. I'd be confused if I was

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Speaker 2: an England batter in that dressing room, Like, you know,

485
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Speaker 2: you've kind of told us to bat in certain a

486
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Speaker 2: certain way. Yes, there's got to be responsibility and time

487
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Speaker 2: to know when to attack, but you know they've been

488
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Speaker 2: encouraging him play a certain way and then all of

489
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Speaker 2: a sudden, it's weak if you do that and it's

490
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Speaker 2: not working. So they really need to work out exactly

491
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Speaker 2: what they want to do because I think ultimately if

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Speaker 2: they try to do something other than what they've done

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Speaker 2: for the last three years, they'd be trying to like

494
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Speaker 2: learning on the fly, like it's a completely different way

495
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Speaker 2: of going about it. So that'll be interesting to see

496
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Speaker 2: how that plays out this week. Win the toss here,

497
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Speaker 2: Lu And Yeah, you'd think so hot first few days

498
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Speaker 2: is going to be up around thirty eight thirty nine degrees.

499
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Speaker 2: I think day one two, I'd want to be batting

500
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Speaker 2: the bulk of that time. If you can get through

501
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Speaker 2: the early moisture, it could be cashing times for the batters.

502
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Speaker 2: Eight Miller Grass on the thing at the moment, Hoff

503
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Speaker 2: says he might shave a bit of that off depending

504
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Speaker 2: on where they get to.

505
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Speaker 3: So he's eight meal more or less than we normally see.

506
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Speaker 2: I reckon that's around the ballpark of what we have.

507
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Speaker 2: Maybe they've had a little bit more in the past

508
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Speaker 2: when they thought the pink ball might need a little

509
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Speaker 2: bit more. They talk. This is where I start to

510
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Speaker 2: get a bit confused as they talk not so much

511
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Speaker 2: about the length of grass, but the thatchiness of grass.

512
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Speaker 2: He was off today, was talking about the difference between

513
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Speaker 2: Santa Rana grass and legends, and that's when he could

514
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Speaker 2: lost me.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is curator Damien Hoff, not Josh Hazelwood,

516
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Speaker 1: known as by the way, that does get confusing.

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Speaker 2: Good point. That was Damien Hoff, Yeah, not Josh Hofflewood.

518
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Speaker 2: So yeah, he lost me a little bit on the

519
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Speaker 2: grass stuff. But yeah, I think I think there'll be

520
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Speaker 2: some grass on the wicket. And how much we'll we'll

521
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Speaker 2: just have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: As always, the Unplayable podcast will be doing daily recaps

523
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Speaker 1: of every day's play of this actually series Adelaide included,

524
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Speaker 1: so make sure you're subscribed and you get those recaps

525
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: right into your feed basically right after stumps. So definitely

526
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Speaker 1: worth checking out. And now it's time to jump into

527
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Speaker 1: our chat with Jake Weather on all right, what a

528
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Speaker 1: pleasure to be joined at the Adelaide Oval by Jake

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Speaker 1: Weather or Australia's test opener, Jake coming back home in

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Speaker 1: a way for you? Here has it been this week

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Speaker 1: for you and the build up to a test match

532
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Speaker 1: at the Adelaide level?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been pretty similar to what I would if

534
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Speaker 4: I was back for a Shield game playing for South Australia,

535
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Speaker 4: spending a lot of time at home playing PlayStation, spending

536
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Speaker 4: time with my wife and my dogs and just going

537
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Speaker 4: to cafes and relaxing. To be fair, probably trying to

538
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Speaker 4: keep a bit more of a low profile at the moment.

539
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Speaker 4: Obviously obviously spend a lot of time in Tazzy, so

540
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Speaker 4: coming back, I try to make those trips pretty quiet

541
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Speaker 4: so I can spend time my wife. But you obviously

542
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Speaker 4: being back, you can't hide the Factor're back here for

543
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Speaker 4: a test match, so just try not to be too

544
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Speaker 4: busy with catching up with people because it'd be a

545
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Speaker 4: bit endless sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: So what's the PlayStation go to at the minute?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: I just played like quest games, a bit of Witcher stuff.

549
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Speaker 4: That's currently on TV at the moment. And then yeah,

550
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Speaker 4: my my wife bought me a couple of games to

551
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Speaker 4: get into, which was cool. So they keep me occupied

552
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Speaker 4: and probably away from cricket, which is good.

553
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Speaker 2: Do you kind of need that, Jake, Like, do you

554
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Speaker 2: need a release away from cricket because I imagine like

555
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Speaker 2: the last few weeks would have been pretty intense from

556
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Speaker 2: a cricket point of view.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was an absolute meltdown. I got to

558
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Speaker 4: Brisbane PlayStation broke sort it out.

559
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Speaker 2: This is a PlayStation that goes with you on the road.

560
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so I normally travel with it. It broke.

561
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Speaker 4: I couldn't get the disc out, had an absolute mayor,

562
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Speaker 4: went to JB High Fi, tried to sort it out,

563
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Speaker 4: couldn't get it done. So so I was last week

564
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Speaker 4: was an absolute battle, to be fair, and we're staying

565
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Speaker 4: with the Barmi Army as well too. So I normally

566
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Speaker 4: go out for a run or go do something, go

567
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Speaker 4: for a swim or something. It didn't really have the

568
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Speaker 4: many opportunities to do that because they were either in

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Speaker 4: the pool, the Bari Army or the downstairs. So ended

570
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Speaker 4: up just spending a lot of time just twlling my thumbs,

571
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Speaker 4: just meditating the end and watched his TV. That was

572
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Speaker 4: about it, really right, Yeah, so better there.

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Speaker 2: So the Barbie Army, I imagine would recognize you as

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Speaker 2: Australia's open I did, like the employee at JB High

575
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: Fi kind of go, hey, you're the boke opens a

576
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Speaker 2: batting for Australia.

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Speaker 4: No, it didn't seem like he had much interest in sports,

578
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Speaker 4: to be fair. He had a lot more interest in

579
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Speaker 4: the games I was choosing, which was cool. So we

580
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Speaker 4: sort of a loss on that a little bit. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: even the Barmiyam I don't think really recognize me that much,

582
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Speaker 4: and I probably they probably think I'm two LoVa too,

583
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: low fish sort of things, even talk to small fry

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Speaker 4: sort of things. So they don't bother say much of

585
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: me until you know, smudge and stuff walking when they

586
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Speaker 4: get a bit vocal.

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Speaker 1: So and we're back at in Adelaide, of course, Adelaide, Evil,

588
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Speaker 1: Is this your favorite ground in the world. You've got

589
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Speaker 1: a pretty good first class record here and you've played

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Speaker 1: a lot here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great place to play it. It provides

592
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: different challenges, which is cool, but in terms of actually

593
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: playing here, big bash games are amazing a player with

594
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Speaker 4: the crowd and stuff that, so hopefully it sort of

595
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Speaker 4: emulates that a little bit. I really enjoy being here

596
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Speaker 4: when that crowd is buzzing around, especially people on the

597
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: hill there they support really well. But yet I love

598
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Speaker 4: batting out here. It's one of those places where you

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Speaker 4: just feel somewhat at home and somewhere common, which is good.

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Speaker 4: Obviously when I play Bell reaven Up play there are lots.

601
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Speaker 4: It's probably two grounds I probably do the best at

602
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Speaker 4: because I played so much there both these two grounds.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm excited to get back here and walk out.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure what'd be like as a

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Speaker 4: Test match sort of things.

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Speaker 1: And even though you wear greed now for the state here,

607
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Speaker 1: confident their crowd here again then but keet behind you

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Speaker 1: as a local.

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Speaker 4: Boy, I'm pretty sure they will. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: they will. I've got plenty of plenty of mates here.

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Speaker 4: But also I think the people in South Australia are

612
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: pretty They've sort of claimed he as South Australia as

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Speaker 4: soon as I made the Test team, so which is cool.

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Speaker 4: You know, I played most of my cricket here. I

615
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Speaker 4: grew up, I learned all my craft here, did all

616
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Speaker 4: the hard yards when I was playing South Australia, so

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's probably fair enough. And you

618
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Speaker 4: know I love being backyard. Still live here so in times,

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Speaker 4: and my wife still lives here, so still course place home.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you've got a good look at the Test

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Speaker 2: skipper back comings in the in those nets. How spicy

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Speaker 2: are those training wickets? And how good does Batty look?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks really good. You know you sort of don't.

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Speaker 4: I haven't played much first class creed against him and

625
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 4: he's only played what under ten games. The first class

626
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Speaker 4: crewer play a lot of Test cricks. You just watched

627
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Speaker 4: him from far, but see how it goes about it

628
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: and how he bowls on. He's probably holding back a

629
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: little bit as well to try not to make the

630
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: batters feel too uncomfortable. So yeah, he bowled beautifully the

631
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: first session I had him, Perth probably ramped it up there,

632
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: made me feel pretty silly. It didn't really feel that

633
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: ready after that, and then this session he bowled quite

634
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Speaker 4: well and it just showed you can bring it back

635
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: a lot and bring his skills back in, which is

636
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: so impressive. So I think having him back in the

637
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: team is going to be an amazing, amazing thing for us,

638
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: and you know, provides a bit more strength of the

639
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: bowling attack even though they're going really well at the moment.

640
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Speaker 4: But also, yeah, I think having him back in general

641
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Speaker 4: is just going to be big buzz for the team. Obviously,

642
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 4: another senior guys played seven y old Test matches and

643
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Speaker 4: taken so many wickets. It's cool.

644
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Speaker 2: So I imagine we're not the first people to ask

645
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: you about your view of the draft for the Smith

646
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Speaker 2: kind of showdown on that afternoon, fourth evening in the

647
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Speaker 2: fourth evening, Yeah, at the GABA, that must have been

648
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Speaker 2: pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty cool. I wanted to get amongst it,

650
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: couldn't hear anything. I sort of went down there to

651
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: try to listen. But yeah, it was pretty cool. You know,

652
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: you watched a guy like Joffre's obviously had so much

653
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: talked about him, how good he is, and he's very good,

654
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: and then you get a guy Stee Smith, as I

655
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: had the best player I've ever seen by mile batting

656
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: and the way he went about it was just the

657
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: opposite of how wide think about cricket. I'd be, you know,

658
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: as I probably showed, I was just trying to get

659
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: behind it and keep the ball out where he was

660
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: thinking about how can I finish this game off and

661
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: get the run. So it was pretty impressive to see

662
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: that against the guy that was so high class, and

663
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, I was just lucky to see the ball

664
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: when he was just going out there smacking him. So

665
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: the contest just shows that, like how much it means

666
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: to everyone, and we probably hadn't had that yet. Out

667
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: in the middle, it's been a very much just get

668
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: the job done. You listen to the crowd because the crowd

669
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: does most of talking, so and if you got to

670
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: say someone, you can't even hear anyone anyway. So that

671
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: was the first time I could actually hear something going on,

672
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: and it was pretty cool to be a part of.

673
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: So we could see Steve's like kind of eyes go

674
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: into a different mode.

675
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: He was frocking at the mouth.

676
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a competitive beast. Did you feel that

677
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: kind of activat inside YouTube?

678
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: No, I'm a pretty I'm a pretty competitive person in general,

679
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: and that's probably what I lying when I'm batting to

680
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: get me through. But yeah, him, you know, he's pretty

681
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: relaxed to be fair, and then suddenly he just goes

682
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: into this mode of Brynick compete and and he sort of, yeah,

683
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: just changed completely, which was cool. And then the end

684
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: of the game, obviously he was so pumped up and

685
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: yelling things out and stuff like that. I was just

686
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: that was a cool experience. I think that was saying,

687
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: they'll go on my wall, me walking off with Steve Smith.

688
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: So it was pretty cool.

689
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: And was that the first time you've batted with him

690
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: as well, because I'm not sure if you played much

691
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: with him at all.

692
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Not at all. I barely played against him with him, Yeah,

693
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: so that was an amazing experience. I just wish we

694
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: went for longer, to be fair with you. I didn't

695
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: really see him in Test cricket really life saw him playing,

696
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: you know, the way he does, being so adaptable. But

697
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: you know, it would be cool to be able to

698
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: spend a lot of time with him out the middle.

699
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: And I think we're probably a little bit different in

700
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: the way we operate. He's probably a little bit more

701
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: tensive with his routines and stuff like that, and I'm

702
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: probably trying to be pretty relaxed and pretty nervous enough.

703
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: So for me, it was just like trying to to

704
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: see what I can do and say to him without

705
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: setting him off, because he can be pretty sensitive with

706
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. So for me, it was just like,

707
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: don't say anthing's stupid, just out of his way, and

708
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: he like even he like moved me a little bit

709
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: out of my way because i'd als stand quite close

710
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: to bowlers to sort of wash their action as they're

711
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: running in, and he's like, you stand your close, You've

712
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: got to stand wider. Even now, I was stuffed up.

713
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to we want to get pick next game,

714
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: so I was, yeah, so I'm all over him at

715
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: the moment, just to make sure I was staying out

716
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: of his way.

717
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: Was there any temptation to wear the Underreye patches like he.

718
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: I just probably don't have enough warror yet fair, I

719
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: don't have enough respects from the credit community to walk out.

720
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: And that you know, he's averaging fifty five in test

721
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: cricket and made thirty test hundreds. I think he can

722
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: do what he wants. And again, half the things he

723
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: does he probably doesn't need to do it, but it

724
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: makes him up and about, so it's all matters.

725
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: I saw Trav compared you a little bit to Steven

726
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: Marmas in terms of the way you think about the

727
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: game and how intense potentially you you are around the game.

728
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: Do you kind of agree with that having kind of

729
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: gotten to know those guys over the last.

730
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: Few weeks, Probably a little bit. With the training point

731
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: of view, Yeah, we're both We we spend a lot

732
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: of time training, and we probably across a lot across

733
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: a lot of eyes and dot a lot of t

734
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: sort of thing, and we do all that sort of stuff.

735
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: And I guess me and manus to a little bit

736
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: to a degree, but I probably don't think about it

737
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: as much in terms of like the actual technicalities and

738
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I try not to anyway. If I

739
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: want to be the best version of myself, I try

740
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: to be pretty. I try to train hard, but then

741
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: after that I just try to trust it. Everything in

742
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: the okay. And but Smudge's obviously got all the gear

743
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: going on, you know, obviously die Patch things. You know,

744
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: prepares incredibly different to what I've seen a lot of

745
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: the cricket, probably more pedandic than I've seen a lot

746
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: of other people in a way. You know, he's weight

747
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: with his bats, his handles, all that sort of stuff.

748
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: For me, I probably was a little bit like that,

749
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: but I've gone more towards, you know, just trusting it's

750
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: going to be enough and all that sort of stuff.

751
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: And I think Marn's sort of similar to that degree,

752
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: and he's someone I can sort of read off a

753
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: little bit too. You know, if I'm hitting more than

754
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: Man or Smithy, I'm probably going a bit over the top.

755
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: So I sort of try to just you know, I

756
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: use them as gauges, but at the same time to

757
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: try to get what I need and done. And but yeah,

758
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: we sort of have a different method, but we still

759
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: train to lie, I guess. Yeah.

760
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: And what about just your battle with Joffa in this

761
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: series so far, Like we we were looking back at

762
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: evening footage of you playing in the BBL O seven final.

763
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: You made that one hundred. You know, you got a

764
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: good piece of him in that game a fair while ago. Now, yeah,

765
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: just what was he like then to face and what

766
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: have you seen from him in this series so far?

767
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: I guess it's like perception in it. It's just sort

768
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: of what your perception of him when he came out.

769
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know much about him when he played the

770
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 4: BBL so you just see him reacting and and bbor

771
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: cricket sort of allows you to get out doing dumb things,

772
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: you know, So I didn't even care. So I sort

773
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: of just walked off and I just walked into those

774
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: games thing, and I'm sure I try smack him. And

775
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: then obviously, when you play a test match, you set

776
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 4: up for a day, you set up for how can

777
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: I put this guy through three or four spells? And

778
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: I got a pretty good wake up call our first

779
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: things about what was going on and how much different

780
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: it is to play someone of his quality and his pace.

781
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: I learned pretty quickly. And then obviously the next innings

782
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: similar thing happened again kind of, but it was I

783
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: was a lot happier with the way I felt about

784
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: batting against him. He's someone that's obviously high class and

785
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: he's going to bowl good balls, and I've got to

786
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: accept that as and open and not let that, you know,

787
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: to make me feel as though that I'm not good

788
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: enough to compete, because you know, for ninety percent of it,

789
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: I'm competing well.

790
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like it's interesting you started to wake

791
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: up call that first thing, because we were looking at

792
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: it and gone, first one's gone away, and you would

793
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: have been going, oh, yeah, I've seen that on TV.

794
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: Joff moves him away from the thafties and then he

795
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: just brought one back in from nowhere, and surely that

796
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: that would a surprise. Yeah, it was surprised definitely. That

797
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: first ball knit a bit and I'm just like, oh,

798
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: it's just going to smash away. He had a good

799
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: length and I'm just going to be it's going to

800
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: go back to you know, good first class batting is

801
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: a bit faster, but it's going to go abut to

802
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: good first class batting, and we're comfortable and you're just

803
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: gonna be able to leave well and and my strengths

804
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: hitting off my pad so a bit like and then

805
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: he goes for which you don't really get in first class.

806
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Create a lot of blokes that is so used to

807
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: and when you've got pace like him, you probably can

808
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: afford to miss or not miss, but you know, starts

809
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: more and you might get more rewarded. So for me,

810
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: that was a bit of a learning curve with people

811
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: with that pace, just to be a bit more cautious

812
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: around you know what they can do. And so yeah,

813
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: I just have a really experienced then.

814
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: So that was good and Steve and Joffre had a

815
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: bit to say at the end of Brisbane and seemed

816
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: like you were trying to get involved a bit there

817
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: as well.

818
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: Do you want to share what was sort of going on?

819
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: Well, for my end, it was just they were just

820
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: talking about obviously, you know, me kicking them off Joffra,

821
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: which was probably fair enough, and it's sort of it's

822
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: sort of just stemmed after the review. I sort of

823
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: just made it. Made a comment after that saying waste

824
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: to review that was always going down leg which I

825
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: didn't feel too confident about when I when they reviewed.

826
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: I've done it again. But again, if I if I

827
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: make runs and kick it eventually it's a right as

828
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: long as I'm making runs. But yeah, I think for

829
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: my end it was like, yeah, I was trying to

830
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 4: back up Steven as much as I can and and

831
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: not and not trying to make myself to look too

832
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: much for a fool. But yeah, I seem like they'll

833
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: put it intent with each other, and I think jop

834
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: just laughed at me when I said something, so it

835
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: was good.

836
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: The only other question I've got on that battle was

837
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: that hand signal that Steve did a few people have

838
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: been asking about do you know what the meaning?

839
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: But I don't, like I don't necessarily know where its

840
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: originated from. I know a lot of blokes from South

841
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: a Stralia use it. It's sort of like, I don't

842
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: even know exactly what he is, but a lot of

843
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: the boys do it. It things to go rest. It

844
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: means rest, I think, I think, and I don't quite

845
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 4: be honest, but it could be make myself full here,

846
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: but I think it just means.

847
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Rests as in like have a rest to the.

848
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: Right.

849
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I think that's I think that's the gist

850
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: of it. And I know a lot of the soccer

851
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: boys do it. And then because I know Daniel Drew

852
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: who was at the twelfth Man stuff, yeah, he's sort

853
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: of saw the guy that does it quite a lot

854
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: and he was sort of couldn't believe it happened sort

855
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: of thing. So it was pretty cool experience. I think

856
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: for druiy he, I don't know exactly where originated from.

857
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 4: It could be somewhere else, but I love the soccer

858
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: boys use it.

859
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: Maybe he's claiming it to be like if a bowler

860
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: is sledging you, rather than going back in it, you

861
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: just have it on it.

862
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, even though you have no idea what that many

863
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: exactly right?

864
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: We could talk about do you talk about that for

865
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: hours with your record, but just around we kind of

866
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: touch on it a bit, with your preparation and how

867
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: you're different to some of the others, Like I'm interested

868
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: Jake justin You've gone from playing ten years first class

869
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: cricket and you get used to a certain way of

870
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: doing things, a certain way of preparing, a certain level

871
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: of scrutiny. All of a sudden, more scrutiny in test cricket.

872
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: You've got more resources in test cricket, like dog flingers

873
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: and probably yet more staff and whatever. Like, how have

874
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: you maintained your preparation in amongst all that, including like

875
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: your visualization stuff that you did before games.

876
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been interesting. I think what it's probably a

877
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: credit to the coaching staff. When I came in, they said,

878
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: obviously we've been picked in this squad because we like

879
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: the way you're going about first class three at the

880
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 4: moment you've made runs. We like the way prepare. Just

881
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: do the exact same thing, and it's never going to

882
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: be exactly the same. Obviously, you have to do a

883
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: lot more different things off field. Obviously media and other stuff.

884
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: You need to do appearances and stuff like that. But

885
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: at the same time, when I get to training, the

886
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: resources just there for you to I just love facing bowlers,

887
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: So for me, it's all about getting in and facing bowlers.

888
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: And I've been lucky that no one else likes facing either,

889
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: so it's just me and me and Mahn at the

890
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 4: moment were called the netties net batters for the bowlers,

891
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: so we sort of get sacrificed to see other wickets

892
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: alike and then go in there and see what happens.

893
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: But then, yeah, obviously you get the bowlers that come

894
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: in and bolder, which is awesome, which is great, so

895
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: I get to face as many bowlers as possible. I

896
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 4: I don't get as much as that in state cricket

897
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 4: because you get the bowlers come in, they're their workloads

898
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: and they're done, and you've got a quick turn around

899
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: between each shield games. So for me, that was That's

900
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: probably why I use a lot of visualization, but I

901
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: just sort of naturally wanted to use that. I haven't

902
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: been back at Adlaida over a while, so I'll use

903
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: that as a way of getting accustomed to what I see,

904
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 4: and even just going through some game plans and stuff

905
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 4: like that, I might want to incorporate. Nothing too extravagant

906
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: by any stretch of imagination, but just getting aware of

907
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 4: my situation. So I want to walk out there. Everything

908
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: feels familiar again. But yeah, for me training point of view,

909
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 4: it is just basal got to do it straight, stay training.

910
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: So is it hard doing the visualization out in the middle.

911
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: When you do it before a shield game, you've got

912
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: the oval to yourself more or less. Here you've got

913
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: two broadcasters, you've got people everywhere. Have you kind of

914
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: been interrupted a point?

915
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely A told to get off the wicket for

916
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: a broadcast, which is a strange scenario. I was like, oh,

917
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: you seriously prop here and he's like, no, you need

918
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: to get off, and I was like great, So I

919
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: walked off. So that's already been stuffed up once. And

920
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: like standing on the wicket, everyone's a bit particular with it.

921
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes you get cut as a fine with it. Here

922
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: is normally very good. The whacker was good, went the

923
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: gabbar suddenly out of nowhere when ourpires came blaring over

924
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: and to wing to get off, and so it's those

925
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 4: little things like a little bit different because in state

926
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: training or stay games you're going to do whatever you

927
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: want sort of thing. But yeah, that's probably a different thing.

928
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: And obviously when you're when you're doing it before a

929
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: day of a game, you've got all these greats walking around.

930
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: I find that pretty daunting because I'm visualizing. I'm just thinking,

931
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 4: what are they thinking of me one now? So I

932
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 4: think I'm useless to my techniques useless. I try not

933
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: to think about that, but you know, when you've got

934
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: Matthew Hayden and JL and stuff like that, and just

935
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: walking around Ricky Ponting washing your shadow bat, it's a

936
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: bit a bit daunting. So I try to keep that

937
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 4: out and just try to keep it consistent. But yeah,

938
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: i'd live, I said, I don't think about it. Well.

939
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Hatos as a master that he would often go and

940
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: sit on the pitch barefoot and visualize making runs out there.

941
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe Kindred Spirits.

942
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, potentially he might have some more respect for me,

943
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: but no, I think he's uh, yeah, I haven't had

944
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: much to do with Hatos, So one day hopefully we

945
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: get a good chat with him about it, and.

946
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: Has anything else really surprised you from the step up

947
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: from Shield to Test because it seems like a pretty

948
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: star contrast between the Yeah, the level of interest between

949
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: the two sort of teams.

950
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't think anything surprised me as such.

951
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 4: I was aware that there was a lot more stuff

952
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 4: going to happen, and obviously the emotion around Test cricket

953
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: and the emotion from the supporters obviously on coming up

954
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: to you and saying good luck, stuff like that I've

955
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 4: experienced from a strained point of view, which is pretty

956
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: It's pretty. It's pretty nice to be fair, You walk

957
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: around and everyone's sort of pumping you up sort of thing.

958
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: And I've probably prepared quite well obviously when you play,

959
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 4: I've talked to a lot of people about the preparation

960
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: for Test cricket and what it's going to be like,

961
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: and to be fair, I have I've faced challenges out

962
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: in the middle in terms of the people I'm facing

963
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: and the team I'm playing. It's obviously high quality, but

964
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: in terms of the other stuff, I've been very lucky

965
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 4: that the information I've gathered, I can stay away from

966
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: certain things, and it might be social media or might

967
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: be you know, being quite insure that I'm not doing

968
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 4: too many things outside of cricket and making sure that

969
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: I'm doing stuff for myself, so when it comes to

970
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 4: the game, it just feels like another game. But in

971
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: the day when we played two Test matches, so from

972
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: this point it's been good fun and we've won, so

973
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: that sort of helps. And when he plays six days

974
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: worth of cricket. So I'm sure there'll be a lot

975
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 4: more challenges that come, but for now it's been just enjoyable.

976
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: But I'm sure there's some challenges.

977
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure one of the most enjoyable parts has been

978
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: being at the other end. Well, Travis head has been

979
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: going ballistic. What is it like to be at the

980
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: other end end Heads on a heater like that.

981
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool. You sort of you take it. You

982
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: take it for granted a little bit how good he

983
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: is because the way he is, he's so different to

984
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: Smithy and Marnas and these guys. You're Revere and you

985
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: see them, watch them training, you can see why they're

986
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 4: so good. But then you watch Hetty and you think,

987
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why they's so you can't really put

988
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: your finger on it. But then you walk out and

989
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: you're bat with him, and you just see that someone

990
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: is just like immensely confident in what he's doing and

991
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: he's obviously got the skill to back it up. And

992
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: I'll probably take more from that than I do from

993
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: the other guys, to be fair, because you know, he

994
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: doesn't overcomplicated. He walks out there and he's obviously worked

995
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 4: hard at his game and his mindset to be in

996
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: that position, but you know, to walk out and do

997
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: what he did in Perth, it just shows that someone

998
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: who's supremely confident in his ability but also got an

999
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: amazing amount of skill that can back it up. So

1000
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a credit. It's also the coaching staff

1001
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: and the people around him that allow him to go

1002
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: do that stuff. Obviously, Patty and Ron and Smarte of

1003
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: created an environment where he can feel confident in doing

1004
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: that and not that and not let the impact of

1005
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: potentially him getting out early be the bearer of the result,

1006
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: which is great for him because I think he just

1007
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 4: plays better when he's loved that, And you know, I've

1008
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: never seen anything better than that. I've seen obviously some

1009
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: one day stuff, but to do it in a red

1010
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: ball game against you know, the high quality stuff they've gotten.

1011
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: You know, he's elevating himself to become one of the

1012
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: greatest straying crickets ever. So yeah, it's pretty amazing. Just

1013
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: to be at the other end for somewhat of a

1014
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: time was cool.

1015
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: What about even the other gear to it, Like that

1016
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: first innings in Brisbane where he faced a lot of

1017
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: archer early on. Was that kind of something that he said,

1018
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to kind of shield you

1019
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: a little bit from him, And like, is that kind

1020
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: of something that maybe doesn't get knowledge. We know how

1021
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: well he hits boundaries, but he kind of got in

1022
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: behind it for a bit there he did.

1023
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: I think he's just shows how adaptable. I don't think

1024
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: we actively talked about it, and that's the thing. When

1025
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: you open the bating you sort of get stuck down

1026
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 4: some ends. We didn't talk about it, but yeah, like

1027
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: credit to him. He did an amazing job getting through

1028
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: probably drafts hardest spell in when he bowls, when he's

1029
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: probably bowling his fastest, and he's he's got amazing skills

1030
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: compared to a lot of people I've and cricket. He's

1031
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: got the ability to bowl fast but also nip it

1032
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: both ways. So to be able to get through that

1033
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: little period shows and it sort of sets up the

1034
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: rest of the game for everyone else and obviously set

1035
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: the game up nicely for me. So I don't think

1036
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: he was happy about it, but he did it none

1037
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 4: the less, so I think he was. I think he

1038
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: just got a bit of a taste of what opened

1039
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: the batting was. Like sometimes you get stuck down one

1040
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: end because they just there's nothing to score off and

1041
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: you sort of have to absorb weep. I think we're

1042
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: like four overs in score run or something, and then

1043
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: we sort of got moving. Then I said, it's going

1044
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: to get moving. But yeah, he sort of did most

1045
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: of the brontwork, which is nice.

1046
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Might have been like you kind of saying, this is

1047
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: what quick singles for me.

1048
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, and this is yeah, rotating the strike.

1049
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: But he's obviously not a little about that and I'm

1050
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: probably not either. So it depends if we're opening together

1051
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: together again. But yeah, we probably compliment each other well

1052
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 4: in certain aspects, probably running between the wicket, it's probably

1053
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 4: not the greatest aspects. Who've got to each other.

1054
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: You've known Tray for a long time. Has he changed

1055
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: much over the years.

1056
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: No, He's not not really changed at all. He just

1057
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: talks lots. You know, he's obviously a lot richer now,

1058
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: which hasn't changed much apart from his fashion. His fashion's

1059
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: got worse and worse. We call him a cashed up

1060
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: bogan at the moment because if it's saying nice in

1061
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: the store, he just go towards the brands, pick them

1062
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: all out. And you know, I respect a lot of

1063
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: heady and what he does because he's not changed much

1064
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: and he's lifestyle. You know, he's always up for a

1065
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: talk with anyone. He has a laugh, he enjoys being

1066
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 4: out there and he's been a calming influence for me.

1067
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: When I've walked in the change rooms, you know, I

1068
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: was you know, I was like, what it's it going

1069
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: to be like? But he was the same as he

1070
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: was when he plays State cricket, and that was quite

1071
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: a long long time ago. I played with him only

1072
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: four years ago. So he shows it like someone who's

1073
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: become so popular in the trained cricket, but also so

1074
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: good in the trained cricket. He's a very humble guy

1075
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: and we had him went out of his house a

1076
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: couple of days ago with a few guys and it

1077
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: just shows like he's so accommodates everyone wants everyone to

1078
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: have a good time, and yeah, he's he's an unsung hero.

1079
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: I think within our team that creates a lot of

1080
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: relaxed vibes that probably a lot of people feed off.

1081
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: And I think Smudge and all that feed off is

1082
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: quite well too, because we're not all just intense and

1083
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: he just provides a different way of going about it,

1084
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: which is cool.

1085
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: What's a view like from his pool?

1086
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: Pretty much, it's pretty nice. He's done pretty well for himself,

1087
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: which he deserves to obviously, come from the come over

1088
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 4: from Elizabeth and Gaula and stuff like that. So he's

1089
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: moved up in life. But yeah, I think he still

1090
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: hangs out with all his mates in the North and

1091
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: so it shows that he's a guy that just you know,

1092
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: loves how he mates and enjoying people's company and which

1093
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: is cool. But his house is very nice.

1094
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: It's funny and I feel like you probably spoke a

1095
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: little bit about this in Perth around the whole winter

1096
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: was about who was going to open the batting with

1097
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: with m Kauwaja, you got picked to do that. Now,

1098
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: maybe after two tests you might yet to get to

1099
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: go at it. Yeah, what are your kind of thoughts

1100
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: on whether that successful partnership you've had with trav in

1101
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: three innings potentially might get broken up this week.

1102
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think at the end of the day. Well,

1103
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: actually I was walking in security guard said I hope

1104
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: you get picked this week and I was like, oh,

1105
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: hopefully I do it too, and he goes, yeah, it's

1106
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: going to be borderline a thing, mate, borderline. So I

1107
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, fair enough, which is fair enough.

1108
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: You know, obviously he's available, and he's obviously the great

1109
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: cricket he is.

1110
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: So but I think did he think you was?

1111
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: He no, there's a chance, there's a world, But no,

1112
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: he was, he said, and he said, Jake, right, okay,

1113
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: But I think that was a bit of bit of

1114
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: like just trying to Jimmy on sort of thing. But yeah,

1115
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: lightly honest honestly though, I was a bit I was

1116
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: a bit rather rough for that was my chance not

1117
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: played this week. But at the same time, like like,

1118
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: as he is coming back and I think it's actually

1119
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: underrated how much how good he is and the fact

1120
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: that I've only played two Test matches and and I've

1121
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: done okay, like I'm not you know, made hundreds or anything.

1122
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: So for to say that it's it's out of him

1123
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: more heady to open, it's a bit ridiculous because I

1124
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: think he's obviously got the priority, has been there for

1125
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: so long, done so well, So I think it's just

1126
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: a it's probably a little bit of propaganda around him

1127
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: not playing, because I think he's a good chance of

1128
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: playing so and if he does, I'm sure to do

1129
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: a great job. I think for me, if I do

1130
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: get to open with him, it'll be different, but at

1131
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: the same time, probably similar to what he he said, Well,

1132
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: he he did. He absorbed the lot, and that's saying

1133
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: that was he does really well, and he does rotate

1134
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: the strike really well, and he's a very calm collected character,

1135
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: and he absorbs pressure probably better than most cricketers I've

1136
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: ever seen. So I think from my point of view,

1137
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 4: I think that'd be great to bat with if I

1138
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: get the opportunity to. And it's just adapting to it

1139
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: and trying to get a different flow on.

1140
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: So would you feel more pressure to that more aggressively

1141
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: if you know usman, Yes, you said that he does

1142
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: absorb the pressure really well. We know Travis is a

1143
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: guy who goes after it. Yeah, would you feel any

1144
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: different about how you go about your badding?

1145
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: Not really, to be fair, I don't really ever think

1146
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: about scoring at all, So it's just a natural thing

1147
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: that happens for me. And I'm sure I might walk

1148
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: out this game in the wiki Plumber play away. That

1149
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: might be slower and hard to score. It can be

1150
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: a little bit slow at times, So for me, it'd

1151
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: just be about, you know, watching the ball and getting

1152
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 4: my routines done properly, just forgetting about what's happening everywhere else.

1153
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 4: And if the game moves quickly at times, for me,

1154
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: it will, but if the game doesn't, I think that's

1155
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 4: it's cool. We we've talked about as a team obviously

1156
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: putting them through more overs, which is so there's benefits

1157
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: to not scoring as well and trying to make sure

1158
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 4: we can bat long periods of time and getting rewarded

1159
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: for that, and I think that's what's good about the

1160
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 4: team at the moment. We can sort of feed off

1161
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: each other's energy in terms of if there's a time

1162
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: to score, we'll take it, but if there's not, we

1163
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: can absorb and bat for long periods of time, which

1164
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: we showed last game, which is cool and.

1165
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: More of a broader question.

1166
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: But how important is it as an opening pair to

1167
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: have a good relationship or does it not matter once

1168
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: you're out in the middle.

1169
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 4: I think it matters sometimes in terms of enjoyment when

1170
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: you're meeting each other in the middle, But if you're

1171
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: relying your partner too much, you're probably not in the

1172
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: right position.

1173
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: To be fair.

1174
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: Look, I've never had a partner I've not enjoyed batting

1175
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: with so and they've all been different. Some people like talking. Obviously,

1176
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: when I was playing with kids at the Strikers, you

1177
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: didn't talk at all, so you know, you may as

1178
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 4: well be out there by yourself anyway. And I'm sure

1179
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: like when I walk out there with with Hedi and

1180
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: stuff like that, he's a lot more serious Huffil he

1181
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: was going to be. He talks about the game a

1182
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: lot more, so I think there's a lot more going

1183
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: on his mind. Then Martus walks out complete opposite, relaxed,

1184
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 4: really talkative about just other things. So everyone's got their

1185
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: own little niches and ways they go about it. But nah,

1186
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: I don't think it really matters that much, to be fair,

1187
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: And I'm probably lucky that they're all pretty nice guys,

1188
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: so yeah, I'll just try to make sure that whatever

1189
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying to him helped makes them better.

1190
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: And in terms of England looking ahead to the Third Test,

1191
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: have you sort of seen their plans to evolve as

1192
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: the serious has gone on or how have you sort

1193
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: of seen their tactics to you?

1194
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: Being so far, I haven't.

1195
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 4: Really seen certain tactics be employed. I think they've tried

1196
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: a lot of different things and someone who has been successful,

1197
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: so I think for them it's just like any opening better.

1198
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: They will just trouble really nice balls at top off

1199
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: stump and if you do that on wickets they might

1200
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: provide a little bit. It's gonna be hard because they've

1201
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: got high quality bowlers. So for me, as time goes on,

1202
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure they will change plan and they've shown that

1203
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 4: they'll go short ball plan. They'll go quite full to

1204
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: me at times and use their different lengths, which is

1205
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: something that I need to be a bit wary of.

1206
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know, I think as

1207
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: an opening batter, they're just going to do try to

1208
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: do the simple things well for a long periods of time,

1209
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: and that's all I'm enough to try to do is

1210
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: about it too, So I think it's different if you're

1211
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: batting down the order because you know the game itself.

1212
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: They have someone coming in and then they understand the

1213
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: wicket straight away, where I'm sort of we're both playing

1214
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: a level playing field sort of thing. We walk out there.

1215
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: Because the game develops, I'm sure they'll they will change

1216
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: different tactics and but yeah, I can't see it much different.

1217
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: I don't think they think any. I don't think they

1218
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 4: think it's that uncomplicated. To me, I'm just a batter

1219
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: that probably sets up and just tries to score what

1220
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: I can and then sort to try bowl good balls.

1221
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Now, with those potential you know their tactics, are you

1222
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: surprised you haven't got some more spin? Like I know

1223
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: you haven't about it deep deep into any endings when

1224
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: off you might come into it. But yeah, do you

1225
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: expect to see a bit more of that maybe these

1226
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: last three Tests.

1227
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: Potentially on these wickets. Yeah, they might spin a bit more. Again,

1228
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: we played and probably pace friendly wickets. But at the

1229
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: same time, like playing spin in Australia provides different challenges. Obviously,

1230
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: it might get a little more bounce, a lot more

1231
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 4: bounce especially here might be especially Day one, might bounce

1232
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: a bit more. So I'm sure they'll use spin a

1233
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: bit more and as obviously they're going to try to

1234
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: try and protect the bowlers the quicks a bit more.

1235
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 4: So I'm sure spin will be used a lot more

1236
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: this game. And it's gonna be hot, so which is

1237
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: as an open batter you're probably happy about to some

1238
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: degree because you're not getting you know, sniffed or you

1239
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: can't get your shin or toe blown off. So it

1240
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: provides a new challenge, but the same time it probably

1241
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 4: provides a little bit of relief at times and change

1242
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: the flow of the game. So hopefully I can get

1243
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: into Eennings and then by that time and facing a

1244
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: bit more spin and hopefully you know, on sixty or

1245
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: seventy and I can you know, find a new way

1246
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: of scoring runs against the spinner. But yeah, it's not

1247
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: been surprising, to be fair, I think just the way

1248
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: it's panned out really we showed they bought a fair

1249
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: bit of it in Brisbane in the end because they

1250
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: had to. And that's probably where we want to get

1251
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: to is have spinners coming on and using that as

1252
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: over so we can sort of you know, keep grinding

1253
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: into the sort of thing. But yeah, it's gonna be

1254
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: interesting to how it plays out.

1255
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: What about the short ball stuff like, how have you

1256
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: imagine you don't get a whole heap of that in

1257
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Sheeld cricket. How have you kind of seen that in

1258
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: your in your first two tests? And is it harder

1259
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: to do here given it's pretty short square.

1260
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 4: It is for me, I've always been somewhat comfortable with it.

1261
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: Everyone's got their own methods with it a little bit

1262
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: as you saw how I probably set up pretty pretty

1263
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: neutraally for it. I'm not too concerned about getting out

1264
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: pulling because it's the way I score a lot. So

1265
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 4: for me, I'm just looking to use it as a

1266
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: scoring option. At times you'll probably have the resorb and

1267
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: if they've got the fields you don't like. But for me,

1268
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 4: I'm trying to keep it pretty neutral, where other guys

1269
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: they think about a lot differently. They think about how

1270
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: they can score and hit the different sides of the

1271
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: grounds and stuff like that. So yeah, the tactic is

1272
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 4: I think it's it's not as used much in shell

1273
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: create now the week. It's a lot greener in first

1274
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: class cricket, so you don't get that. You probably don't

1275
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: get it as much. They're just going to hit the

1276
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: line on length for a long periods of time. But

1277
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: for me, it's probably just yeah, trying to keep it

1278
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: quite neutral and not trying to get too caught up

1279
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: on what they're trying to do. I feel as though

1280
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: I play it quite well and I score off it.

1281
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: I might get out doing it, but I feel as

1282
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: though that I can rotate the strike, which is what

1283
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: I want to do facing short pitch poling, and I

1284
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 4: think that's what most of the boys want to do.

1285
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, as you see that. So the last game

1286
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: Greenie and Smudget and the way they played it, and

1287
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: they played it completely differently to I would, so we

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Speaker 4: probably discussed it a little bit. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: I think we've done a lot right if they're using

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Speaker 4: a lot in the game, especially here, because the game

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Speaker 4: will speed up a lot if they're buying short balls here.

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Speaker 3: So Jake, thank you so much for your time and

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Speaker 3: the good luck this week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate that. Chus