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Speaker 1: We are just lining up Matt Cunningham, hopefully from Sky

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Speaker 1: News to have a quick chat to us because we

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Speaker 1: know that this latest polling has indeed been released or

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Speaker 1: certainly Matt Cunningham's got this exclusive story which has now

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Speaker 1: sort of gone live. He's been on Sky News this

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Speaker 1: morning and the Country Liberal Party is looking like they

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Speaker 1: hold a strong lead ahead of the August Northern Territory election.

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Speaker 1: That is what this new poll has revealed. But Labour's

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Speaker 1: clawed back some significant ground under the leadership of the

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Speaker 1: new Chief Minister, Evia Lawler. So the poll by Freshwater

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Speaker 1: Strategy on behalf of Australian Energy Producers NT shows that

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Speaker 1: the COLP is ahead fifty four to forty six on

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Speaker 1: a two party preferred basis. The survey of one thousand voters,

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Speaker 1: with a margin of era of three percent, shows more

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Speaker 1: than a quarter of voters are still undecided ahead of

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Speaker 1: the August election on the twenty fourth. Now joining us

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Speaker 1: on the line from Sky News is Matt Cunningh. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Matt. You've got their hands on these polling results, mate,

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Speaker 1: and it makes look I always find polling interesting. I

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Speaker 1: know I'm a bit of a political nerd, and so

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Speaker 1: are you. But I find this quite fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think everyone does. In our little bubble probably

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Speaker 2: we see so little of it and it's a hard

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Speaker 2: place to poll the Northern Territory. This is a pretty

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Speaker 2: comprehensive one. I mean, this is a thousand people who've

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Speaker 2: been survey throughout April, people from across the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: So that's a pretty big pole really when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the MT we rarely see a pole with so

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Speaker 2: many people surveyed, so I think it gives us a

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Speaker 2: pretty good invitation of workings are at ahead of the

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Speaker 2: election in August. And at the moment this pole has

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Speaker 2: a CLP ahead fifty four forty six on a two

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Speaker 2: party preferred basis, so you know they'd probably be reasonably

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Speaker 2: happy with that. But there is a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a glimmer of hope, if you like, for Labor. I

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Speaker 2: think it's certainly showing that their fortunes are improving under

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Speaker 2: Eva Lawla, who's had a very different style as Chief Minister.

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Speaker 2: She certainly had a much tougher approach when it comes

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Speaker 2: to crime and law and order issues, and certainly a

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Speaker 2: much stronger support for the resources industry. So we have

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Speaker 2: seen a four point improvement in the two party pre

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Speaker 2: third for Labor since a similar poll was done around

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Speaker 2: the end of last year when Eva Lawler took over

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Speaker 2: from Natasha Files.

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Speaker 1: Now mats you know, obviously a bit of a change

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Speaker 1: or a bit of a surge, I guess in support

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Speaker 1: for Eva Lawla comparatively, you know too when Natasha Files

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Speaker 1: was in charge, I guess. You know. The interesting part

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Speaker 1: about that is is it really it's still the same team,

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Speaker 1: you know, like within Labor, it's just a different leader.

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Speaker 2: So that's the issue that voters are going to have

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Speaker 2: to decide on come August. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think people my sense certainly is that people are happier

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Speaker 2: with the way this government is tracking under Evil Laws leadership.

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Speaker 2: But you know, will that be enough for voters to

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Speaker 2: give you some of the sins of the past. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she's basically taken things in a complete, you know, one

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Speaker 2: to eighty degree different direction. Certainly when it came to

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Speaker 2: implementing the youth curfew in our Springs, that's something that

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Speaker 2: her predecessors had flat out refused to do. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're members of the Cabinet on the record

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Speaker 2: into Parliament absolutely disparaging the idea of the curse and

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Speaker 2: that Evil all the charage to do it, and it's

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Speaker 2: proven to be a remarkable success, even hearing from people

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Speaker 2: in our springs as recently as yesterday saying that since

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Speaker 2: the curfew was listed, they're still seeing much quieter on

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Speaker 2: the streets of our springs. So you know, in terms

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Speaker 2: of being the circuit breaker that everyone said was needed,

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Speaker 2: I think it's proven to be pretty successful. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the other issue where we've seen a marked difference from

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Speaker 2: Evil Lawler has been when it comes to support for

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Speaker 2: the resources industry and the on shore gas industry. I

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Speaker 2: mean I interviewed her, I think the day after she

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Speaker 2: took the top job. She said then that she was

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Speaker 2: the number one supporter of the oil and gas industry,

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Speaker 2: and I think she's probably proven to be so FISO.

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Speaker 2: But there are questions being asked about others in her

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Speaker 2: cabinet and her caucus who are on the record as

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Speaker 2: recently as last month, you know, saying that that they

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Speaker 2: oppose on shore gas. So you know that's the one

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Speaker 2: internally that they're going to have to deal with us. Well,

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Speaker 2: I reckon.

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Speaker 1: What's going to be interesting, Matt is you know, as

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Speaker 1: we're closer to the election and political nerds like ourselves

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Speaker 1: are going to be sort of looking through all of

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Speaker 1: those seats seat by seat. You know, what is more

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Speaker 1: likely to maybe go to the CLP, what's more likely

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Speaker 1: to go to the ALP, what could go to an

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Speaker 1: independent or a Green And you know you'll sort of

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Speaker 1: be breaking down those numbers and what could be concerning

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Speaker 1: what could certainly be a worry is that some do

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Speaker 1: see those seats out in Palmerston, the ones held by

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Speaker 1: the likes of Evil Lawla and Mary Claire Boothby, as

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Speaker 1: being sort of winnable by either side of the fence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would it look like if Labor won

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Speaker 1: but Evil Laula didn't win a seat. I think that's

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Speaker 1: an interesting sort of scenario to have a look at

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Speaker 1: too well.

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Speaker 2: I was talking of a senior Labor person about that

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Speaker 2: very scenario just the other day, and it is one

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Speaker 2: that is not beyond the realms of possibility. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how is the irony of that beef If Evil Laula

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Speaker 2: took out a Labor party which was let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: it was heading five months ago for a catastrophic fiege,

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Speaker 2: and pretty much everyone within labor will tell you that.

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Speaker 2: In fact, some say that you know, they were and

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Speaker 2: their own polling was shown this that they might be

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Speaker 2: left with as few as two or three seats after

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Speaker 2: the election if they continued on the path that they

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Speaker 2: were heading. Now, I'm sure that some of that polling

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Speaker 2: has helped influence the different direction that they'd gone in,

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Speaker 2: but I think a lot of that has been because

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Speaker 2: of evil Lawa's own beliefs and our own approach. And

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Speaker 2: you know, we are seeing a government in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four that is unrecognizable to the one that we saw

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. Well, will voters, will voters? You know,

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Speaker 2: forgive you know what what came before Evia Laura, because

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Speaker 2: you know she she seems to be doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't know she certainly she certainly sort

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Speaker 2: of shifted the goalpost a bit that I think it's

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Speaker 2: be a lot closer and a lot more interesting than one. Agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that sentiment. And Matt looked the

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Speaker 1: really you know something that I find Well, it's I

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Speaker 1: guess it's no surprise again to you or I is it.

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Speaker 1: By the look of it, the number one issue is crime,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely something you and I have spoken about

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Speaker 1: on so many occasions in daylight.

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Speaker 2: Second, kay, like forty seven percent say crime is the

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Speaker 2: number one issue, and then I think next is cost

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Speaker 2: of living on twenty five percent, and then you're down

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Speaker 2: to the economy. I think I'm seven percent. In the environment,

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Speaker 2: I'm six percent. So I mean, and is that a

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Speaker 2: surprise to anyone? I mean, it's not a surprise to

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Speaker 2: you and I to any of your listeners. I am

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Speaker 2: sure we've seen astronomical rises in the rates of crime

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Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory. Everyone I know has either been

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Speaker 2: a victim of crime or knows someone who has been. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you know, I'm not surprised by that result at all.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's why we've seen evil

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Speaker 2: all that take a tougher approach on Prime. I think

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Speaker 2: it's why when the Colt held its media and then

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday it held it at char Restaurant, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of Dale's best restaurant, which is now boughted up

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Speaker 2: windows in these closed. So you know, I think that

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Speaker 2: that's really where the battleground's going to be the election

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Speaker 2: on August twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: It most certainly is well. Matt Cunningham from Sky News,

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Speaker 1: good to speak to you this morning and we'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow for the week that was.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgati, Thanks Matt.