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Speaker 1: The world is full of interesting people. We might call

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Speaker 1: them eccentric, different, or just downright weird. Sometimes it's obvious,

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Speaker 1: we have no idea about the oddities they are hiding. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I'm Art Simon, and I'm scouring the country and sometimes

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Speaker 1: the world to find these people. Yes, I'm doing the

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Speaker 1: dirty work for you. When I meet with these people,

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Speaker 1: all I know is that they have something weird, scandalous,

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Speaker 1: or a bit freaky that they're concealing from us. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know what that thing is. Welcome to concealed

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Speaker 1: with Art Simone. Let's meet our guests and find out

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Speaker 1: a little secret.

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Speaker 2: Roll the tape.

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Speaker 3: Hey, my name is Caroline. I'm fifty five years of age.

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Speaker 3: I was a vet nurse for years. I did a

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Speaker 3: couple of years of truck driving, and I've also done

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Speaker 3: a year of McDonald's management. When I'm not working, I

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Speaker 3: love riding the pony and basic kicking back and reading.

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Speaker 3: But I am concealing something that I think is really interesting.

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Speaker 3: But sadly it has been a relationship deal breaker for

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Speaker 2: Hello, Caroline, how are you going?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'd love you to meet you. So you just looked

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Speaker 1: in off the street. Now let me describe you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're wearing a beautiful Oh are they horses on your scarf?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but they're rainbow horses.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you've got rainbow horses. There.

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Speaker 1: You've got beautiful sparkly nails. There, some night's jewelry. We're

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Speaker 1: in black though, he's tied back. That means business, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it does. We're ready for business. And I'll see a

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Speaker 1: slight sparkly lip and I officially approve beautiful. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: you said you're a vet nurse. Now what got you

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Speaker 1: into being a vet nurse?

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Speaker 3: Animal mad from a very young age and wasn't allowed

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Speaker 1: So if you can't have any, have them all now.

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Speaker 1: I actually was just having this conversation with a friend

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I don't think it's fair

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Speaker 1: for vets, you know, because a human doctor they just

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Speaker 1: have to look after to humans, a vet has to

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Speaker 1: be able to look after whatever walks in through those doors.

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Speaker 1: How do they deal with it? Are their brains extra big?

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Speaker 1: They need more credit?

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Speaker 3: They do? They need a lot more credit. And they're

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Speaker 3: not only dealing with the animal, they're dealing with the

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Speaker 1: That's true. I don't know how they do it for

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Speaker 1: all the vets. I love you, but I also don't

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Speaker 1: like it because you charge a lot of money, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes I just want to give my catter insulin and

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Speaker 1: you know I don't need the full thing. But a

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Speaker 1: truck driver, I was when did you say I'm going

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Speaker 1: to drive a truck?

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Speaker 3: Got pissed with some a friend of mine. I called

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Speaker 3: my brother for years and booked in a lesson and

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Speaker 3: that was the rest was history.

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Speaker 1: Oh Carolina, like you already all right, likes to get pissed,

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Speaker 1: so do I.

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Speaker 2: So that's two of us together.

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Speaker 1: All right, Trucks are scary, so you not only have

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Speaker 1: dealt with scary animals, because I think all animals are

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Speaker 1: little bit scary. Love them, but you know, I can't read.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like doctor Doolittle, so I can't read their brains, okay,

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Speaker 1: mac is yeah, and why only a year?

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Speaker 3: Basically I'm not cut out for corporate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. I was CAVEC person. I worked

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Speaker 1: because they sounded like a girl. When they'd get to

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Speaker 1: I could hear you. I'm going to charge you for

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Speaker 1: an extra size dirty bitch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds fair. And something about ponies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one.

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Speaker 2: You got a pony. Now, what's the difference to the

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Speaker 3: Size?

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Speaker 2: Oh? What size is your poet?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's actually a full size horse. He's sixteen one hands,

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Speaker 3: But ponies.

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Speaker 2: He's what sixteen one hands?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that means he's awfully big if you fall.

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Speaker 2: Off sixteen one hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, horses are measured in hands.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Hell, I'm only used to dealing with things and inches.

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Speaker 3: So this is here, you guys.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Sixteen one hands.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I need to get I need to

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Speaker 1: be a horse girl. Now that's exciting, beautiful. So what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do is ask you three questions, and

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Speaker 1: from the answer to those three questions, I have to

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Speaker 1: try and work out what you are concealing from me.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready, drum roll, okay.

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Speaker 1: Question number one, what was your dream career as a

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you kind of went into that. Yeah. What

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Speaker 3: The pay? Basically, that's why I got into McDonald's management.

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Speaker 2: Good girl, Good girl. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Question number two, so you said you liked reading. What

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Speaker 3: Ah, The Forever Dog. It's a book written by a

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Speaker 3: couple of holistic vets, and it's basically all the most

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Speaker 3: doing that's actually causing it. And it's really interesting going

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Speaker 3: holistic side of it.

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Speaker 2: A book saying like why we're killing dogs.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much an environment?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my goodness. And the final question I have

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Speaker 1: for you is what do you value most in relationships

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Speaker 1: or friendships?

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Speaker 3: It would be the ability to communicate?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I have them with this together. I

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Speaker 1: have to guess what you can selling for me. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I get it, sometimes I don't. All I'm getting is

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Speaker 1: horse girl. It's just horses everywhere. Okay, horses, but then

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Speaker 1: sixteen to one hands counting management.

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Speaker 2: Okay, something to do with horses. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well I want to say it's ketemine dealer, but you

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Speaker 1: So actually I am gonna say, all right, okay, Caroline.

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Speaker 2: Are you a drug dealer? No?

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Speaker 3: No, sadly good money in that.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 3: I'm a professional animal communicator. If you've seen the movie

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Speaker 3: Doctor Doolittle, That's pretty much what I do for a living.

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Speaker 2: I is always there.

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Speaker 3: You were.

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Speaker 2: Do you're like in real life? Doctor two Little I

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Speaker 2: am to the animals? I can old McDonald had a farm. EI.

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Speaker 1: I know. So Caroline isn't a drug dealer. She is

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Speaker 1: an animal communicator. Was a community. How does she do that?

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Speaker 1: Is she talking to me? I am a bit of

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Speaker 1: a dog.

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 1: All right, see we're here with Caroline, and we've discovered

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Speaker 1: and she is actually an animal communicator. Okay, let's backtrack

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Speaker 1: an animal communicator is, right, Like, are you reading pet

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Speaker 3: Telepathy Telly's distance pathy is feeling, so you're literally feeling

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Speaker 3: another being over distance. Anyone can do it. We're all

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Speaker 3: The doctors are listen. Most of the time. There is

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden they call you. That's all telepathics.

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Speaker 3: We're all born with the ability. But unless the kid's dying, yes,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't get validated. Then the child says its first

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Speaker 3: child learns that verbalizing gets my name. So it's literally

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Speaker 3: like a muscle. You don't use it, you lose it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're obviously using people as examples here, But

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Speaker 1: then how did you discover you could tune into animals?

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Speaker 3: Read a book, believe it or not. Yeah, pre internet,

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Speaker 3: Took me two and a half years of working every

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Speaker 2: And of course this isn't matching up.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and it's so subtle. It's not like the big

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Speaker 1: It was, Oh godcha, this is big brother. My leg hurts.

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Speaker 1: Oh the leg hurts. Okay. So are you saying they're

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Speaker 1: I think you want this to happen.

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Speaker 3: Everyone gets it slightly differently. But if any of one

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Speaker 3: So they've got an interpreter in and he'd speak to

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Speaker 3: the bird, the bird would speak to me. I would

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Speaker 3: speak to the interpret. The interpret it would speak to

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Speaker 2: You like the United Nations, which was crazy.

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Speaker 3: But they're not actually picking up on the words. It's

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Speaker 3: the thoughts. If you're trying to tell someone something, the

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Speaker 3: thought is instantaneous. The words take a little bit longer,

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Speaker 3: particularly if it's important and you're trying to think of

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Speaker 3: the way to get it across the best. So often

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Speaker 3: the humans will be saying to me, does he, will she? Whatever,

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Speaker 2: Would you say, there's a lot of visualization with her.

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Speaker 2: Is that good for you then?

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Speaker 3: Yes with me. No, people will say, oh, but if

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Speaker 3: tap in when we've got all your details, I pick

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Speaker 1: So this is your job. Yes, so time, what's the

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Speaker 3: Mainly phone work because that's what I prefer now I

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Speaker 2: So you get tap in a community. You don't even

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Speaker 3: No. I do a lot of overseas work and interstate

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Speaker 3: Usually the other way around, and it can be really awkward.

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Speaker 3: It's only happened once, and I don't want it to

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Speaker 2: You should be working with the police dogs. You could

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Speaker 1: Because people expect that if you know able to tap

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Speaker 1: Okay, would you say any animals are easier to a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my goodness, remind me not to get a

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Speaker 1: And this is a very interesting thing to be able

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Lost a few people friends along the way, because they

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Speaker 2: You tell me, sister, how it is, how.

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Speaker 3: It is exactly. But most people now are very aware.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So do you think that people are a lot

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Speaker 3: And oh absolutely, the last.

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Speaker 2: Let's call the Funny Farm vibes the more.

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Speaker 3: And because they know I work with a lot of vets,

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Speaker 1: True, and there'll be a lot of false expectations for

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Speaker 3: Would you believe I've never seen that movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a full TV show and it

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Speaker 1: It's really exciting. Anyway, that's my childhood. Now there are

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Speaker 3: I just go good, don't not my problem. There's an attitude.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: The attitude I like because the people go, you're not

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Speaker 1: on my first toweling. It's still there. They go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Actually, I've got two cats at home, and

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Speaker 1: if you can communicate with one of my cats, all right,

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Speaker 1: because her name's Effie and she's about thirteen years old.

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Speaker 1: She gets the two inchillin shops every day and her

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Speaker 1: her back to the vet and they said it's probably

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Speaker 1: sis tidus. I was like well, what causes that? And

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Speaker 1: they said, is she stressed? I said, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: She's got the most lux life in the world. Got

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Speaker 1: a photo, all right, where is she? Little fie? That's

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Speaker 1: that's a fat of meat at nightclub. Don't need that.

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Speaker 2: That's a nude yep, don't need that either. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to show that to Caroline.

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Speaker 3: Someone's done that photos that has happened.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I don't think I can tap into that

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Speaker 1: right now, right, Let's find a good one of her,

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Speaker 1: because oh yeah, she looks quite grand here.

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Speaker 2: This is her outside. That's the fie.

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Speaker 3: She's happy enough. There has been a tabby and white

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Speaker 3: around the area and I suspect it's either a tom

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Speaker 3: or it's recently moved in, which is stressing her a bit.

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Speaker 2: But ah, you snare, I don't. I cannot confirm nor

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Speaker 2: and I.

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