1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Mix one O four point nine dot com DOTU for 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: all the latest news and information. Now three sixty with 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Katie Wolf. Everyone is listening Mix one O four point 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: nine one hundred percent NT. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Joining us in the studio though, is our old mate 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Jerry Wood. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Katie. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: Good to have you in here. Jerry. 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: It's good you're looking relaxed. 11 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 4: Oh yep, complenty of work, but I don't have to 12 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 4: sort of do it right now. 13 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you know what I mean. 14 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Live in the dream, mate, live in the dream. 15 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: And you worked hard to be able to retire. 16 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, so you deserve to be 17 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: living the dreape. 18 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: I still take an interest in things that I know. 19 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: You do now, Jerry. 20 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: One thing that you have taken an interest in, and 21 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: I think that this is something rightly so that you have, 22 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: is that it seems as though, well, my understanding is 23 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: that bushfires, bushfire trucks have names on them for the 24 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: areas that they that they're from. Now those names have 25 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: been removed, Is that right? What's happened? 26 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's my understanding. 27 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 4: I've been in touch with a couple of people in 28 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: with the volunteer Fibrigade in the Northern Territory Fire Service. 29 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: And as you would know normally if you go out 30 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: our way, there's the bush Fires Council fire trucks, they've 31 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: got their name on the side. But the Northern Territory 32 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: Fire Service, which does the more closer into Darwen areas, 33 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: they've all got their names on and so you've got Kilpena, Virginia, 34 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: Beees Creek, Humpty Do Howard Springs, and there's other places 35 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: in the territory that have their name on it. And 36 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: that's really important because these people that the volunteers on 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: those fire units are all locals and we very much 38 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 4: appreciate the work they do. So when they're out either 39 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: back burning or controlling a fire or an accident, you 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: see their names and you know that our local people 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: are out there volunteering their time and you appreciate that 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: in your way to them sometimes. In fact, I had 43 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: a friend ring me today from Central Victoria. He's on 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: the local fire brigade there, and he said, ah, you 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: can't take the names off those truck trucks, especially in 46 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: their cases where they had big fires. There'd be people 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: coming in from interstate and they know that they've come 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 4: in from interstate and they'd appreciate that there are people 49 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: coming in to help them in that area. And it's 50 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: the same in the rural area. So how do you 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: do come down and help the Howard Springs and Virginia 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: and bees Creek and all those people. They get together 53 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: and fight fires and we appreciate what they do. Now 54 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: to take the names off for what, I don't have 55 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: no idea what the reason thening is for. 56 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: I mean, the name doesn't cause an accident. 57 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: So have they've taken the names off all of the trucks. 58 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: And they're going to replace it with something now, I 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: don't know where they're going to have those get the 60 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: yellow signs with the initials on the side, you know, 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: HS one, seven three or something. 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: But the name is important. 63 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 4: The name is very much part of the rural area, 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: and it is important that we also recognize our volunteers, 65 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: and that's one way to recognize them. So I have 66 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: no idea why the bureaucracy has told them after twenty 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: or so many it's probably long on that for how 68 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: it's been probably thirty years now at least I went 69 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: to their anniversary not so long ago. They've always had 70 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: their names on the side of the truck and. 71 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: So Jerry, are they names of people and names of 72 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: locations or. 73 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: What are Howard Springs Volunteer Fibrogade Kilpinia Volunteer fi Progade 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: hump to do fibrigate So we know they're the volunteers 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: and that's not we haven't got anything against the regulars 76 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: and they came out and fight fires too. But you know, 77 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: it's good to know that we've got people out there helping, 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: helping fellow rural people look after property and and I 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: think that's really important that they're recognized by having their 80 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: name on the vehicle. 81 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: So what do you reckon the government needs to do here? 82 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: I think the minister just tells whoever made the decision. 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: I don't know whether why that person made the decision. 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: I think we've got more important things to do besides 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: moving signs off trucks. Were the most important thing at 86 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: the moment is to go back burning, to make sure 87 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: fires don't get out of control, to educate people about 88 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: you know, when you can burn and when you can't burn. 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: They're the important things, not whether you take a sign 90 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: off the side track. 91 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: Well, I've got a message here from Zach and it says, 92 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: as a previous cool Pinia volunteer, the name on the vehicle. 93 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: The name on the vehicle lets people know they're close 94 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: to them and get other volunteers involved when they know 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: that that's the vehicle in their area. 96 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: So, look, this is something that I've no doubt a 98 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: lot of volunteers are going to feel pretty passionately about. 99 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: I would suggest, I know they do. 100 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't even know why, and they haven't been 101 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: involved in the decision making process. Yeah, and I think 102 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: if they had to make a decision, they'd say leave them. 103 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: And I'm asking the minister, Minister Laula, I think I'm 104 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: not sure who's in charge of the fire brigade, but 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: whoever is, I think just should step in and say, hey, 106 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: leave them alone. 107 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Jerry. 108 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: We haven't got a huge amount of time, but I 109 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: do also want to ask you, because you are well 110 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: when we think of the rural area, we certainly think 111 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: of you. Jerry would and there has been some concerns raised. 112 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: Kezi Epiric joined us on the show last Friday about 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: these concerns about Palmerston Council. You know, their area being 114 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: becoming larg and incorporating some of those areas which are 115 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: previously rural. 116 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, there's two issues there. 117 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: One is whether Parmesan expands its boundary, of course, the 118 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: other areas whether parts of Litchfield turn into being a suburb. 119 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: And the previous government tried to do the same thing. 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: This government has just gone along moreris was the same 121 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: idea as the previous government had. 122 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: It has been opposed. 123 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: But you sometimes think you're talking to deaf people because 124 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: no matter how much rural people say, this is what 125 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 4: we'd like, the planners and sometimes the government just ignores 126 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: that totally. So instead of sitting down as they had 127 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: some years ago and putting up a design for Woodell, 128 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: which is the planned city, they want to sort of 129 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: the shortcut is infill and densification, the other planning words. 130 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: They love those words. 131 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: What it really means is we're not interested in expanding 132 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 4: rural lifestyle, which they could do in this case. So 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 4: holtz Kwandi area is mostly his own rural at the 134 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 4: present time, and so they could turn that into what's 135 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: similar to subdivisions like in Howard of A Park, Whitewood Park, 136 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 4: parts of Gerrowen which. 137 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: Have town water. 138 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: Because we know there's the moratory mon Boars, but still 139 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: have one hect down and two hectar block so you 140 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: can have that alternative lifestyle to suburban. So the suburban 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: has been planned for with Dell. The rural area has 142 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: been planned basically, not altogether for rural development. And what 143 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: we've got is a government who just ignores all that. 144 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: We know there will be some development around the hospital, 145 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: but close in. And I went to a meeting Esay, 146 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: a new local member, Jared Mainley, was there and I 147 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: was talking to some of the people, including the council, 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 4: and I'm cold. The council does not support the area 149 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: being turned into a suburb. They understand. And now we've 150 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: been through all this before. It's like, you know, go again. 151 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, And the people they have been through these 152 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: meetings and they said, look, we can live with some 153 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: development around the hospital, but there needs to be a 154 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: buffet to the existing rural people and out from that 155 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: will be rural. And I'll give you one funny thing. 156 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: You know, when they were talking about don Dale couldn't 157 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: stay where it was, even though doing with the others 158 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: said that's the best place. They said, own developers don't 159 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: want that to happen. Because that'll make it very hard 160 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: to sell land in that area because it'll be suburban. 161 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: So what have we done. You have a look at 162 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: the plans. 163 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: They put it right up against the new don Dale 164 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: site suburbs. You know it's a lot of intelligent people here. 165 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. I've no doubt there's plenty 166 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: of people that are pretty concerned about this. Jerry, we 167 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: are going to have to leave it there. We have 168 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: got such a busy morning. We always appreciate you coming 169 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: into that. And Mate, I know that a lot of 170 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: people are going to be upset about this situation with 171 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: these fire trucks, So let us know whether you hear 172 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: anything else and we'll do the same. 173 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: Good on, Jerry. Thank you,