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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Down to the Jonesy no matter of arms.

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Speaker 3: For the pub test today, cooking meat.

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Speaker 2: In the microwave does it pass the pub test? This

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Speaker 2: is something that's been around for a long time. In

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Speaker 2: the seventies, the microwave was the be all and end

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Speaker 2: or kitchen appliance. I guess the air fryer now is

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Speaker 2: the new microwave.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: A physicist George Vakinis has said that people are cooking

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Speaker 4: the steaks on a grill or a frying pan with salt,

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Speaker 4: and it's drying out the meat and making it chewy.

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Speaker 4: He said the optimum way to cook a steak is

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Speaker 4: to warm the steak in the microwave for a while

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Speaker 4: before frying. Put it into the microwave for one or

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Speaker 4: two minutes, depending on the thickness of the meat, and

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Speaker 4: then you fry it quickly on both sides for a

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Speaker 4: very short time. And it's that he called it the

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Speaker 4: Maillard reaction on the surface of the meat that gives

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Speaker 4: it its taste. So you've warmed it all the way

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Speaker 4: through and you just sear it for the taste on

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Speaker 4: that last minute fry. How do you feel cooking meat

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Speaker 4: in the microwave. Does it pass the pub test?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, why is it part?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: I would ever put it in an air fry, But

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Speaker 1: in a microwave, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: It needs to be over here and cooked properly on

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Speaker 5: either a barbecue or a hot plate.

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Speaker 1: So you never would have passed the pub test with me, mate,

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Speaker 1: Yes it does, because I cooked rissoles in a microwave

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Speaker 1: for about a put ayssole in, put in for one

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Speaker 1: minute thirty It comes out beautiful. Nat, I cook.

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Speaker 3: Everything in a microwave, fish, meat, eggs all the time.

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Speaker 3: I put it in a freezer bag. I put a

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Speaker 3: bit of parsley or chives, so even mix it for

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Speaker 3: about two to three minutes. And I do the same

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Speaker 3: with fish and beautiful.

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Speaker 5: My mum used to cook good meat until she had

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Speaker 5: a microwave, and then she would cook all the meat

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Speaker 5: in the microwave, made the place stink and it was

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Speaker 5: just dreadful. I called her a fitter in turner sits

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Speaker 5: the meat into the microwave and turning it into rubbish.