WEBVTT - Coming up Roses with Bella Varelis - BACH FINALE CHAT! 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.720 Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.880 and we have a really exciting episode for you today 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.960 because we have a very special guest on and for 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.040 everybody who has watched The Bachelor, I reckon you're going 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.360 to be pretty stoved with this one. We have Bella 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.440 on the show today and we're going to get into 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.440 that in a little bit. But first, Brittany, how's your 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:42.960 week been? 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.320 Why do you always get this really sexual tone in 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:47.760 your voice? 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.559 It's a new thing I'm trying out. I don't know. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.159 It's on not working. 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.319 You're not doing for me yet. I don't know how 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.760 to be sexy anymore. Like Matt comes home and I'm like, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.480 do I just take my pants off? What do I do? 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.760 How do I flir? How do I mean? 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.960 You've been to in a few years? I feel like 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.200 you do? Just take your pants off now? 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.880 Right? We've got to wait until one pm on a 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.560 Saturday when Mally's having a nap. It's not whoa, whoa? 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.000 Why are you trying to have sex with me? It 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.280 is not one pm on Saturday. That is our sex time, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.479 and that is it. Put my pants back on, please 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:14.520 now immediately. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.720 No, my week's good, same old, same old. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.760 I didn't get to watch every episode of the Bachelor 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.480 of this season because I did a lot of night shifts, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.479 meaning I just couldn't watch them, but I did really 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.720 get into it towards the end. I did watch the finale, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.600 which is why I'm so excited to have the guest 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.760 on today, have Bella and chat to Beller about everything 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:30.360 other than that. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.839 I'm not gonna lie. I had a. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.440 Super uneventful week. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.160 But Laura, I don't know if you want to talk 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.120 about it, but you did message me something that got me. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.560 A little bit worried. Oh well, okay, I didn't realize 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.440 we're going to go there, but I'll go there. Yeah, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.360 I am. I'm totally fine. This is not as dramatic 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.640 as what it sounds by any means. I've just been 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.360 super busy recently with work and stuff and then obviously pregnant, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.920 and how I made the joke the other week about 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.960 how I keep forgetting that I'm pregnant. I kind of 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.080 just forgot to eat the other day, like it was 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.040 like midday and I hadn't really eaten anything. I had 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.440 like a cup of coffee, and then I was in 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.480 the midst of serving a customer at work. So I'm 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.880 standing there at work and I'm I'm trying to sell 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.160 this guy an engagement ring, and I could feel this 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.200 like rising feeling of feeling a bit sick. I was like, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.880 oh God, something's going on anyway, still trying to chat 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.239 to this guy. And then the rising feeling got worse 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.880 and worse and worse, and then I just plucked down. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.480 I'm like a full on faint. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.760 Didn't hit the floor, like I didn't pass out, but 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.200 I like down on my knees, down on my hands. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.320 And then this poor guy who'd come in to buy 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.160 his girlfriend a ring had to help me up call. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.040 It was very dramatic. So this was my wake up 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:42.720 call that I need to slow down and take a 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.520 bit better care of myself because I am actually pregnant 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.360 and I need to stop pretending like I'm not. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.120 When you told me, you messaged me and told me 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.440 and I had this, I felt bad. My immediate reaction 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.680 I was just like I didn't I didn't even think. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.440 I was like, are you okay? 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.839 I was like, Laura, you're not looking after yourself enough. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.480 You've got to start to prioritize your I've got to 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.520 eat more, drink more water. And then I realized how 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.200 gressive I came in and I was like, but I. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.080 Hope you're okay. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.880 Do you need me to bring you anything? I was 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.200 just like the protective mom. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.520 Anyway, that was my week. That was a weird thing 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.640 that happened. I'm fine now, but getting into a couple 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.400 of things that we want to talk about before we 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.880 get into the chat with Bella today, and that is 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.239 that we did put it out on last week's episode, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.799 a very unusual name. It was on the Ask gun 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.800 Cut episode, but it was a very unusual name that 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.720 a guy had been calling his girlfriend's vagina, which was dessert, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.840 his dessert, his dessert. So he put it out on Instagram, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.960 and we asked you, our wonderful listeners and our wonderful 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.840 Instagram and Facebook community, what are some of the weird 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.120 names that your partner or ex partners have called your 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.160 vagina for? It hasn't read them yet, So I'm going 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:45.520 to read a few of my favorites. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.800 Can you rapid fire them? 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.640 Burn to start with a couple that really really got 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:51.400 my juices going. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.840 Yeah, it's not even punny, it's just rare. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.240 I didn't mean to say that I didn't even mean 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.760 that really just got me excited. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.240 Just stop, quit while your head. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.200 Give me the name. Okay, my vertical smile, my honeypot, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:12.400 my pink orchid, My meat curtains has a slug. Imagine 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.200 being a girl and having a guy I call your 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.600 vagina a slug. No meat curtains, No, I've heard that 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.479 one before. Okay, what about finding Nemo because this lady 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.279 says that one of her flaps are longer than the other, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:32.440 and Nemo has a short fin. This guy, this guy 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:38.680 named his girlfriend's vagina Sharon. One of my absolute favorites 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.760 and a true highlight was Gateway to your Guts. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.560 Okay, I am so perplexed how anyone thinks that calling 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.640 a woman when you're in the moon in the moment, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.600 when you're saying, hey, show me your meat flaps, how 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.200 they think that that's going to turn someone on? 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.440 Hey, baby, show me the gateway to your guts. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.159 What's in your guts? Let me check it out? Like, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.640 what's wrong with the world? What is actually wrong with people? 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.280 This other girl's name for her vagina is Jerry, which, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.240 you know what, fine, It's kind of like naming a 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.240 dog David like eving it a real human name. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:11.599 She named her own vagina. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.360 Well I know, she just said, me and my boyfriend 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:14.520 call my vagina Jerry. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.200 No sorry, moodkiller. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:21.480 Next, Quinn's pace, a pink star burst. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:21.920 A mini moo. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:31.960 This one is Swamp and Shrek's voice, Swamp spicy, a 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:37.080 poon tang like a bin tang, bit different, and Betty. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.960 That's all I got. There's way more, but I'm just 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.400 gonna wrap it here because guys, this is getting out 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.000 of What about a guava or a ham wallet, just 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.640 to really round it out, do you know what? Ma Hey, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.520 all right, this was This. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:52.800 Was definitely eye opening. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:53.640 My favorite. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.880 It's definitely gonna be the Finding Nemo because he's one 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:56.800 fin shorter than an other. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.240 Like that's it's actually pretty cue. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.640 That's pretty cute. That was That was a's a weird turn. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.320 Okay, Well, we do want to keep our intro pretty 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.479 short today. We all know that sometimes Laura and I 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.640 can get carried away without talking, but we do have 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.960 this really great, beautiful, in depth chat with Bella coming up, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.360 so we're gonna jump straight into accidentally unfiltereds now. First up, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.640 So Hubby and I were having sex on a Sunday afternoon. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.719 Things got a little bit rowdy and we ended up 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.880 doing a doggie style. Then we were interrupted by our 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.119 four year old daughter saying, what are you guys doing 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.000 while staring at us in full doggie style sex position naked. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.760 My husband replied and said to her, I'm just giving 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.200 mommy a massage, sweetie. We didn't hear anything about it 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.320 for the rest of the day. Then the next morning, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.440 hubby had gone to work and my daughter jumped into 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.480 bed with me for a cuddle. She then said, Mummy, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.559 roll over and play that game that you were playing 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:52.200 with Papa yesterday. Needless to say, I lost my shit 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.760 laughing and said, no, darling, that's not a game we 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:55.120 can play. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.280 Unfortunately, this is therapy. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.760 This is years of therapy and trauma for your child 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.120 that your kid's gonna turn out really funny and with 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.240 a great sense of humor. I just thought that was 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.000 so funny. It's just like, have you ever walked on 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:07.960 your parents having sex? 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.280 Okay, so my parents always tell this story that I 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.960 used to sleep walk really badly when I was little, 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.240 and I would sleep talk as well. So there's this 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.160 one story that Mum and Dad say sorry, Mom and Dad, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.120 you're gonna kill me, probably that I'm telling this on 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.440 the podcast. They were like, we never did this. They 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.800 had four little kids, right, they had four kids under sick. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:25.600 When they had sex. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.160 It was, you know, on this Sunday afternoon at you 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.440 structured time and on this day of the month. Yeah, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.760 one pm Saturday. So one night they were. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.120 Like, we don't know why this one night we decided 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.840 to have sex on the lounge. All the kids, like, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.160 all the kids were in bed asleep, so they were like, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.040 fuck it, let's just like get rowdy. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.119 So they were on the lounge. Mum was on top 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 of Dad like they're young, right, I'm so sorry mum. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:46.960 Dad. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.840 I was on top of that, and then all of 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.600 a sudden, Dad says, I just froze your mum. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.440 I just stopped her. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.720 He's like, because you were like this little exorcist child. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.320 I was just standing there. They didn't know how long 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.600 I was there. I was just standing there looking at them. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.960 Dad was like, hey, sweetie, what you doing there? 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:06.720 And I apparently just stared at them, and they had 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.200 this moment of thinking like, oh my god, we're gonna 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.840 have to pay for therapy forever. I stared straight at them, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.600 and they thought I was awake because I was asleep. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.800 And then all I said was, if Mitchell shoots me, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:20.840 am I allowed to shoot him back. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:21.960 Mitch is my brother. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.640 And they looked at each other weird, and they were like, well, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.280 I don't think your brother would shoot you, sweetheart. And 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.360 I said, but am I allowed if he does, And 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.840 they're like sure, Now go back to bed. Anyway, they 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.640 were like petrified that the next day they didn't if 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.120 I was gonna remember it or what. So they were 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.360 like tiptoeing around asking how I slept, and I remembered nothing. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.400 I still remember nothing to this day. I just have 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.080 this idea from what they have told me. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.840 So this is what psychologists called suppressed memories of trauma. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.120 This is why I'm single, This is why I can't date. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.200 I blame my mom and dad. I walked in on 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.840 my mom when I was very young, in a sixty niner. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.760 That was a very confronting situation. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.359 It's jujits too, sweetheart. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.840 Okay, I haven't accidentally unfiltered. One night, when I was 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.040 with my boyfriend and we were at his parents' house, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.440 we decided to have a late night spa. A few 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.160 lines later, one thing led to another, and well, we 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.360 had sex in the spa. It was when it was 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.160 time to get out that I couldn't find my Batha 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.640 bottoms anywhere. I drunkenly looked everywhere for them, in the spa, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.040 in the garden. We eventually just gave up, went to bed, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.280 and I honestly never gave it another thought. Fast forward 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.800 two weeks later and it was my birthday. His dad 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.240 gives me a rap present in front of the whole family. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.600 I excitedly open it to find my bay the bottoms 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.840 are inside. I sheepishly look up at him and he says, yeah, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:47.480 well I found those in the spa filter. At least 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.640 he has a sense of humor. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:49.640 So good. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.120 Okay, I've got one more. We've really got the parents 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.560 once today, going come at me number three. Okay. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.520 So, my beautiful mom used to always pester me to 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.320 find out about any guys I will interested in or dating. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.640 I became really good friends with this guy who was 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.760 a bit older but very lovely and pretty cool. I 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.400 made the mistake of telling my mom his name, but 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.920 I made it very clear we are just friends because 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.640 I know she pesters me about it if I tell 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.160 her anything more anyway, My mom is a shift worker, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.200 so one night at work at about three am, she 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.680 decided to Facebook store him classic. She didn't think she 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.680 had done anything wrong and thought she'd gotten. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:25.920 Away with it. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.600 However, she actually shared one of his photos from his 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:35.280 profile to her own timeline, a photo from him at 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.160 Tomorrowland from two years before, with a whole group of 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.160 people from the same town as us, who were all 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.640 tagged in the photo. So they all received a notification 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.200 saying my foremum's name had shared a photo that they 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.120 tagged in two years. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.480 Ago on her own timeline. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:48.839 Ah, I be me. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.520 She didn't even know she'd done it, and she felt 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.880 horble when I told her, and actually reminds me of 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.040 that time that you did this weird incident where you 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.680 like uploaded your ex's girlfriend's photo to your. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.559 Timeline or something. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.920 Do you remember I put. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.559 Her full name in my status update? 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.520 Is what I did? But do you know what We're 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.920 actually going to do? An episode coming up on jealousy 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.920 and something that's called retroactive jealousy, which one of our 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.240 awesome Facebook community members commented on, and it really got 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.800 us thinking about it. So that's going to be a 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.520 future podcast topic right there, So I think we'll leave 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.600 that one. But anyway, guys, we just wanted to make 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.079 today's intro short, sharp and a little bit naughty, and 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.520 we're going to get into interviewing bellas you watched the show. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.440 If you watched the final of Bachelor, I genuinely think 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.920 that this finale, I mean, Britt, you might tell me 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.840 that I'm wrong, but I think that this finale was 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.040 one of the most heartbreaking finales that we have ever seen. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.800 And the reason for that is because Lockie went so 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.920 far telling both the girls that he was in love 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.319 with them and really building that, building the intensity, really 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.320 making them feel reassured, really making them feel loved, only 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.000 to the very next day turn around and say I 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.600 can't be with you anymore. Bella and I think collectively 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.760 Australia's heart absolutely shattered when she had her heart broken, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.679 and I wanted to speak to Bella about what her 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.680 experience was like on the show. I really also wanted 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.360 to uncover what this whole lockdown period was like for them, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.080 because you know, it's a very different experience to what 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.360 both Britt and I had. I mean, we never had this, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.040 they had their phones back, they were in love in lockdown, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.599 but they were not being supervised. So what does the 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.480 bachelor look like when there isn't the supervision of producers 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.480 and cameramen and Soundi's and Bella was really really honest 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.360 and she shared a lot of the ins and outs 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.920 of the past six months of what happened between her 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.360 and Luckey, of the extent of their relationship, and also 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.640 of the extent of the hurt that she's felt as 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.360 a result of being publicly dumped on national TV. I'm 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.440 really excited for this chat. I think it's a really 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.520 beautiful and really honest conversation, and I really hope that 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.280 you guys enjoy it just as much as we did 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:47.840 recording it. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.800 All I want to add into that is maybe I 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:50.480 am biased. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.359 Yes, time my heartbreak was pretty. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.440 Heartbreaking, but let's just like brush over that. I can't 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.960 imagine what it would have been like to have been 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.559 told that the bachelor loves you, that he wants to 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.720 spend a life with you, that you're the one, and 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.520 having spent all this time off camera with him, Like 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.840 I just I can never fathom that because, like you 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.199 just said, we didn't have that chance to form any 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.640 sort of off camera intimacy, and then to be told 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.199 at the end twenty four hours later, not even twelve 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.480 hours later, that like, oh, I know yesterday I said this, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.040 but psych it's not you. Obviously I felt that in 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.200 a different way because I mean, you guys never saw it. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.320 But yeah, I was made to feel like it was 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.720 me on my show, and twelve hours later it wasn't 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.280 say and I know exactly everything Bella said. I know 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.240 the exact timeline because we are with them on the date, 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.520 as you know, Laura at like midnight, one am, two am, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.640 and then at seven am you feel in the finale, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.520 so the night before, so I feel it. But guys, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.560 it was a really interesting chat. We got something that's 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.559 never happened on The Bachelor before. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.040 And one thing that I think is really important for 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.360 us to just touch on because we actually didn't break 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.640 down the timeline when we were talking to Bella. We 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.520 kind of got caught up in the conversation around what 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.200 was happening that we didn't really break down exactly the 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.880 moments of like I love you and when the breakup 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.040 and the rejection happened. So just so that you guys 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.760 are all aware and we're all on the same page 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.240 of getting into this conversation. When Bella had her final 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.960 date with Lockie, that was literally twelve hours before he 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.720 then turned around and said I don't want to be 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.720 with you anymore. So he had said I love you, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.760 and twelve hours later had said I don't want to 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.480 be with you. And I think that that's something that 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.720 we really need to keep perspective on with this. The 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.240 other thing as well is that normally during filming, there 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.960 is a three month gap between when filming ends and 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.720 when the show is on TV. Unfortunately, for this season, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.320 that gap was very very short. It was only six 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.800 weeks between when filming ended and when the show was 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.360 on TV, and that was due to this extended filming 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.840 schedule around Love and Lockdown, you know, the parameters that 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.360 were put in place because of COVID. So I think 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.960 those timeframes really changed the dynamic. It also really intensifies 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.280 the hurt. And what it also means is that instead 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.040 of filming for three months, this season actually filmed for 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.920 six months. So the girls in this season filmed a 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.320 much stronger and more intense bond than I think even 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.160 yourself or I could have formed, and like, I can't 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.560 even imagine what it would be like to have dated 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.200 Matt for six months for him to then turn around 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.040 and say it's not you at the end, and. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.320 To be dating off camera, to be able to call 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.520 each other, skype each other, whatever you. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.640 Want to do, like all the things they were doing. Guys. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.680 Yeah, Like we literally whatever bond you and I formed 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.240 with our respective partners, LOLd to that whatever bond we formed, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:32.840 it has nothing on the bond that. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 Would have been formed in this period. Before we do 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.280 get into the conversation with Bella, we also want to say, like, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.280 we know that there is a beautiful love story that's 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.520 come out of this season, and we are genuinely so 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.240 happy for Lockie and Arena, and we hope that they 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.040 have all the babies and we hope that they stay 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.800 together and are super happy because we all understand how 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.000 stressful this period of time can be. But there has 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.080 been a lot of conversation around their relationship and from 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.440 their perspective so far, but I haven't really heard a 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.560 lot from Bella's side of the story, and so we 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.640 wanted to unpack what happened because there absolutely is more 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.440 to the story than what we saw on the TV. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.640 I think for me, I can say that this without bias. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.880 I don't know either of the girls. I knowing like 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.840 once you go through the process, and I know how 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.680 much he's left out. I know how much he's left 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.320 on the cutting room floor. I didn't have a side. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.600 I wasn't going for anyone, and I can hands down 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.400 say that, and that's not against either girl. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.880 I was rooting for whoever. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.680 I was just rooting for the love story. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.320 And I'm so stoked to see another success story come 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.320 from The Bachelor, because that's what we want from it. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.200 We want a love story. We want a fairy tale. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.800 You know we've seen yours. You're popping out, baby number two. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.400 It's so nice to see you can't hold it back. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.280 Just just try and stop up. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.320 I'm always pregnant, but it's so. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.120 Nice to see Irena and Locke and their happy ending. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.440 And sure it was a tumultuous ride to get there. Sure, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.520 Lockie said he loved two people at once, which he 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.720 probably did. I think that that's a thing. I think 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.440 people can be in love with two people at once. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.840 Do I think he handled it the right way? Probably not, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.000 But that's why we want to chat to Bella. But 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.160 it's very evident that there is a lot that has 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.120 been missed out in this story, and I think that's 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.359 why we decided to get Bella on today, just so 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.919 we can learn what really happened behind closed doors. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.040 All right, well enough from us, let's get into the 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:20.199 interview Bella. I am so excited to have you on 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.600 the show today, and that is because since the very 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.199 first day that I found out you were going to 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.800 be on The Bachelor, I was like, we're going to 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.959 get her on the podcast. And do you know how 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.359 I found out that you were on the show. Have 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.960 I told you this? No? I actually thought you were 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.760 going to kill me because I didn't tell you, and 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.600 I was like, I was like, little bitch, why did 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.520 you keep this from me? So Florence, So if anyone 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.679 who doesn't know Florence, who was on my season of 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.560 Bachelor with Matt, she sent me screenshots of an article 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.960 that was in Daily Mail of you being papped on 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.840 your first single day. I did not know this, so 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:52.960 thanks for keeping that from me. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.359 Do you feel so betrayed? 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.640 So betrayed? That's whe I'm going to get the dirt 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.080 out of you today, You're like we were friends until then. No. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.239 I was actually so afraid because they put this like 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.200 the fright into you, the fright, the fear they put 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.440 the fear. They literally said to me, They're like, have 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.840 you told Matt and Laura that you're coming on? And 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.840 I was like no, I couldn't wait to Like once 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.520 Lockdown happened and COVID happened and it was like that 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.479 three month break. First person I called it was you 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.480 to be like, don't kill me. Well, we're going to 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.760 get into everything, particularly the finale. I want to know 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.880 more about this whole lockdown period. Actually, I just want 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.239 to know everything. But before we get into all of that, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.480 first off, something that we do with all our guess 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.800 is do you have an embarrassing story for us? I 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.360 have one. It's kind of gross. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:42.800 Though we love gross. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.080 We love it. So I was about eighteen, So this 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.560 is when I was dating my first boyfriend. We were 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.720 together for about four and a half five years, and 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.680 I remember it was about I think it was someone's 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.040 twenty first and it was really cute. It was like 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.080 the first time I got to get dressed up in 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.879 like he was in a suit. It was like black 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.720 tie and I was like, oh, fancy. And then we 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.760 got to this event. It was so beautiful. I think 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.400 it was maybe like our first month together. And We're 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.040 at the event and I've had a couple of champagnes, 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.560 and all of a sudden, I just start getting really 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:24.280 hot and I was getting Honestly, I would have preferred that. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.800 I started getting like these waves of hate coming through 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.480 my body, and I was like, something doesn't feel right. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.000 So I was like, I'm just gonna go outside and 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:34.960 get some air. And I was like, oh, I'll come 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.159 with you. And I was like, great, that was my 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.760 way to get away from you. So we go outside. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.000 This is like on Bondi Road, by the way, like 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.600 nice in public, really nice and public. Frey Yeah, and 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.280 we're standing outside and I'm like trying to compose myself. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:50.720 All of his mates have decided to come outside as well, 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.359 and he's like, what's going on with you? He was 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.879 like what's wrong? And I was like I don't know know. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.680 I'm like I'm fine, I'm fine. I keep brushing it off, 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.439 and then he go I think he goes to grab 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.800 my arm. And as he grabs my arm and he's like, 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.680 do you need like, let me get you some water 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:11.639 or something. I straw up all over his brand new suit. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.920 And when I mean all over, I mean like it 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.640 was projectile. Onto your ladies and gentlemen. This is your 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:20.880 most eligible. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.280 Bachelor brette in Australia right now. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.080 And yeah, like it's all about the romance. You know, 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.400 you gotta keep it real. But hang on. You said 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.280 you stayed with him for four years after done with 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.879 me for four years after that's love, that's brilliant. It's yeah, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:34.600 I don't know why you would. 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.720 I think I disagree when you said you'd rather shit yourself. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.920 I think the vombit's fine. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.080 Like at least if you like shit yourself, you could 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:42.720 sort yourself out in the bathroom. And it's just just 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.000 all over him. And then I saw his face because 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.679 like you know, when you're someone's vomiting near you and 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.119 straight away you're like what not? It was so bad 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.240 And then he was like, no, baby, it's finely took 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.679 off his jacket and then yeah, it was shocking. So 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.560 I had food poisoning the rest of that night. Well, 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.159 I wasn't expecting anything quite as great as that. No 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.560 hope to bring that to the table. I was like, 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.600 there's a few sexual stories that could bring out, but 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.480 I feel like, just in case my dad listens. 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.119 To this, our poor parents. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.200 I know my father's disma, I've heard from him for 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:13.320 six months. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:16.520 So Bella, let's go back. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:16.879 To the start. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:18.720 We've just seen it all play out. 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.000 We know, well, we know part of you that production 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:23.080 wanted us to see. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.679 But can you tell us who is Bella? Who were 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.560 you before the show? What did you do? Who did 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.119 you date? Why did you go on the show? 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.720 Look, I think before the show, before the show even 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.080 came about. For me, I'm I kind of have two 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.640 sides to me. So I'm a digital marketer, but I'm 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.080 also a freelance creative. So I've been in fashion for 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:50.040 a few years. And I think that's kind of why 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.240 I've had a lot of friends that have done this 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.120 in the past, because I'm going to the same events 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.880 that everyone's going to, and I'm meeting these people are like, oh, 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:58.840 like I've been on The Bachelor, and it's like, oh, cool, 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:00.760 did you fall in love? Not really, but that's fine. 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.800 I was like, I fell in love, yeah, And then 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.040 you meet the friends that are like, no, I genuinely 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.840 fell in love and then you kind of just that's 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.640 kind of where my connection to this whole thing happened. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.159 But I mean, aside from that, I think I'm just 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.480 kind of your average Joe, you know. Just I spend 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.119 most of my time at the ocean. I'm an absolute 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.280 bloody dog, and I have a constant better with gravity. 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.080 So that's pretty much me in a nutshell. So what 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.320 kind of relationship trauma have you been through in order 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:29.840 to make you go, oh, I'm going to go on 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:31.320 a reality TV show. No. 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.000 I think that everyone that is. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.240 Cast has been through some sort of trauma. I think 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:36.880 it's like part of your prerequisite or. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:38.639 It's like, you know, you just seem to have. I mean, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.720 I know, for me, like I had relationship after relationship 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.560 which didn't quite turn out the way that I wanted, 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.359 and then the prospect of doing the show came up 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.840 and I was like, yeah, I'm going to I'm gonna 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.560 try something different. I'm going to see how that works out. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.320 And obviously it went pretty well. Yeah. So really weirdly, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.560 my last two relationships have actually been Bachelor related, but 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:01.160 without it actually being intended that way. So, for example, 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.040 my first partner, I was with him for four years. 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.280 I had nothing to do with Batch. Unfortunately, we were 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.600 just too young, like we were. I met him when 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.000 I was seventeen, and it was just like we were 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.920 more best friends than we were anything. Honestly, that was 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.119 probably one of the best relationships I've ever been in 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.560 because he genuinely loved me for who I am, my 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.359 dorky self. He saw every aspect of me and not 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.040 once was he ever trying to change me or judge 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.400 me or anything like that. So ultimately, that is what 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.720 I look for in a relationship, like someone who loves 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:37.320 me for who I am, no questions asked. My second 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:42.199 relationship was kind of this is kind of where my 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:46.000 triggers started to trickle in, whereas like it was one 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.320 of those relationships where it was so electric and it 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:53.800 was so passionate. But I don't know if he was 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.280 in the right headspace for a relationship. So I got 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.040 dragged on a little bit. I was young, I was 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.600 in love, I was naive. He went on the Bachelorette, 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.720 So who was that? So that was Sam Johnston Georgia 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.040 Love Season. But you dated him before he was actually 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.119 involved with Bachelorette. We dated way before, so we dated 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.880 before Bachelorette was even a thing for him, and we 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.400 actually ended up back together after he finished the show 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.679 as well. So that's kind of where my connection to 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.320 Matt comes in. And that's kind of where I met 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.120 Matt Courtney through Matt ended up meeting Laura, and that's 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.000 kind of where this little web had been created. So 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.959 it was like, I mean, you're dating a guy, You're 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:40.480 going to meet his mates. It just so happened that 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.879 his mates were on the Bachelorette with him too. So 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.639 and if you're thinking that the Bachelorette or the Bachelor 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.600 is an incestuous community, it kind of is. So there 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:54.199 you go, Yeah, you're big, big, big Greek family, big sisterhood, 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.800 sister wives exactly. But I think it's just nice because 0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.960 you are like minded. So it's kind of like you're 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.680 you're friends with people who are in the same headspace 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.000 as you. They do the same work as you. So yeah, 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.760 it's just yeah, And it's one of those experiences. I mean, 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.680 I always say, like, obviously Britta and I we formed 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.000 a really amazing friendship after the show, and you're like, sorry, 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.120 who are you again? She's still playing hard to get, 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.760 But that's the way it's my game. It's because you 0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.359 go through this thing which is such a such a 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.000 weird and like I can't even put it into words 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:30.120 what the multi experience is, and it really galvanizes you. Well, 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.280 it really galvanizes you to people who have shared that 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.280 same experience, because I think unless you have done a 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.200 reality TV show, you don't really I can't fully understand 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.600 or grasp what is involved in it. And I think 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.080 that that was one of the conversations I had with 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.320 you early on where I was like, you don't know 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.400 what's coming for you, but I promise you'll be okay 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.200 on the other side of it. Yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.760 I feel like though, like in that sense, I've been 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.120 so grateful for people like you in my life where 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.560 you've been through this as well. And it's like even 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.399 Courtney gave me some really good advice and he was like, 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.440 you'll be sweet, Like you are very so aware of 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.760 your emotions. You're probably one of the most emotional people 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.240 I know. So he was like, oh, in a good way. 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.800 He was like, you're very connected to your emotions all 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.080 beit love, sadness, whatever it may be. So he was like, 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:13.760 I'll be there for you at the end. He even said, 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.040 he was like, you know, Laura will be there for 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.639 you at the end. So it's kind of like it's 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.520 nice when you have people that have been through it 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.960 and they just know when they get it. I had 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.359 no idea it would be this insane, but I think 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.320 it's just like it's blown my mind. 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:29.960 Like it's one of those things, isn't. 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.000 It's like people can warn you and tell you about 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.440 it as until the cows come home, and you can 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.480 go in thinking, Okay, I know what to expect. 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.359 People have prepped me for it, but you. 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.720 Can never ever ever be ready, especially in a situation 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.239 like yours or all of us. I guess you can 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:46.960 never really be ready for what happens then and what 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.400 happens after. And it is tumultuous and the shit man. 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.359 People I think sometimes forget that you're a human and 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.600 they think that you're a bit of a character sometimes 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.800 and it can be a really really rough couple of months. 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.480 But it's just like I think, I think that's what 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.719 shocked me, how nasty people can be and just like 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.920 going out of their way to send you a really 0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.520 crappy message on Instagram, and it's like at first it 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.600 started getting to me, but now I'm kind of just like, 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.879 if that's what you're doing your day to day life, 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.640 you just felt like you needed to go and really 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.800 put someone down. Then I feel like maybe I shouldn't 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.600 say this, but you probably have bigger things to deal 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.360 with in messaging someone that you have no idea who 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.360 they are. So it's kind of like I didn't want 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.600 to start letting that get to me because it's hard. 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.119 It's like people what you fall in love, and they 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.520 think they have the audacity to tell you how you 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.120 do feel and opinions on your life. The reason why 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.160 that arises is because we do get grouped into being 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:41.919 a character. So and I was one of the things 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.720 I was going to talk to you about how you 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.520 kind of went from having this like wifey edit to 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.400 the villainous edit to being the one who was heartbroken 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.520 at the end. And what people really lose sight of 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.240 is that you're not playing a character along the process 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.760 of the show. You are just you, and you're having 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.480 a very human experience on a reality TV show, and 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.080 you'll react into things that are happening to you. But 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.199 I just want to before we get into like the 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.439 whole process of it. I do have a couple of 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.120 like logistical questions. Can you tell us how long it's 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.879 been since filming ended? Yes, so it was the end 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.720 of July, so two months, like eight weeks? Yeah, seven 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.359 week about seven eight weeks, So just so that everyone 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.879 has some context and perspective on what that means and 0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.680 in comparison to what normal seasons look like. So when 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:30.120 Britt and I finished filming, we had around three months, 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.720 maybe a little bit longer between when filming finished and 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.560 when the finale actually played on TV. And so there 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.840 is a much longer time frame for the person who 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.880 is the one who's heartbroken at the end to actually 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.920 grieve the relationship, move on a little bit, and have 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.440 some closure before watching it play out on TV. Whereas 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.000 in this season of The Bachelor, because of COVID and 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.160 because of lockdown and everything being extended and production time 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.520 frames being thrown out, obviously that timeframe was really reduced. 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.120 So I feel like this is a lot rawer for 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.720 you than what maybe it would have been for Bread. 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.440 I mean, I'm putting words in your mouth. 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.440 But I mean it was pretty fucking raw. But thanks, Lauren. 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.040 So going back to your edit. So we saw you 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:13.440 going from having this like really beautiful beginning of your 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.080 relationship with Lockie, and like the first couple of episodes 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.600 were so romantic and like I think from the get go, 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.840 everyone was like, oh, well it's in the bag, it's Bella, 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.160 just pack up and go home. 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.880 You got the intro music too, didn't you. 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.640 Yeah? I got the intro music, and like I have 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.239 to admit, like it called out to me because I 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.280 was like, I love fairy tales, and they was like 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.920 this is so cute, like it's my own little fairy tale, 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.120 and I was like, you guys have no idea what's coming. 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.360 Mabe. I'm feeling I got the fairy tale editor from. 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.280 The beginning too. What was it like watching those first 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:47.360 few episodes back and knowing that everybody was rooting for you, 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.320 but it not being in you. I think it was hard. 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.960 I mean I even had that before the show started airing. 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.120 I had girls from the show, like other girls that 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.760 were on the show with me and family members being like, 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.320 I know you're out and you're finished. I know you 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.320 can't tell us what happened, but we know it to you, 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.600 so we just were happy for you. Let us know, 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.000 when the wedding is and I'm reading these messages and 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.000 I'm like, oh god on, like it hurts because I 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.680 think even Roxy said to me at one point she 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.800 was like, mate, like he doesn't look at you like 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:17.920 he looks at anyone else. And it's like hearing that 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.200 and You're like, but then what happened, Like if other 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.120 people could see it too, then what actually happened in 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.800 the end. So I think it just it really messed 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.640 with my head because part of me was like at 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.160 the end, I was like, was it in my head? 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.880 Was it this amazing connection? And it was actually just 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.880 me thinking it was, you know, immense and there was 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.520 so much love, but really that was only one sided. 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.400 But then seeing people say that, I was like, Okay, 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.680 so they're seeing it too. They saw it as well. 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.160 So it was pretty rough. But I think in the 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.080 beginning it kind of just made me realize. When I 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.720 was watching it back, I was like, no, that was there. 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.720 We did have a connection, and it was it was real. 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.320 I mean, the guy told you that he loved you 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.160 in the last episode also wrote it on his arm, 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.480 so I'm gonna say it was. Everybody was equally as 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.080 confused yea by that cluster fuck as what you are honestly, 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:10.880 and I think some people have even been saying, well no, 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.120 he said he was falling in love with you, and 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.080 he said I've fallen in love with her, and I 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:15.560 was like, well no. 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.320 But he did say in the pool I love you 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.960 so okay, So I have a question. He did actually 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.880 say I love you right up, yeah, and you said 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.640 I love you too, I love you too, Okay, I 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:32.440 do have a question or another one man shoot. Did 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.960 he ever say like whether this is in private to 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.600 you on camera and they didn't play it or whatever? 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.200 Did he ever say basically like it is you it 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:41.000 will be Yeah? 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.440 He straight upsets you. During lockdown we were talking about 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.880 engagement rings. He was like, would you what would you 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.320 do if I proposed to you? At the end? What 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.400 the bar? He I think the one thing that really 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.320 got me was when he said to me, he was like, 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:54.880 I can't wait to make you happy for the rest 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.240 of your life, And that for me was I'm like, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.080 you don't say that to someone on you really want 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.640 that to like unless he's sitting there And I remember 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.640 saying to Mom and I was like, I think I 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.320 found the person that actually wants to be with me, 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.040 Like of all the things that I've been through, you know, 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.000 my exes and being somehow connected to the Bachelor, this 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:14.920 is obviously what it was all pointing to. I had 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.320 to come on here, I had to meet Lockie, and 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:18.760 he's going to be the person that I wanted to 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:19.000 be with. 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.200 I've just got to legitimately got goosebump speaking. I see 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.320 me and you so much listening to what you're saying. 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.400 Yeah, I'm really feeling I know, like I actually I 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.560 remember seeing some of your posts at the end of 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.640 your season. I actually didn't watch your season, but I 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.640 remember seeing posts at the end because when I heard 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.840 what happened, I was like, brah no. So I went 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:38.880 and looked at your post and I read it and 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.400 my heart literally broke for you. So like I'm I 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.560 feel like you're you know, like it's literally gaslighting. So 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.120 but what I think is different in your experience and 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.800 what I think we really need to dive into is 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.040 this whole period during lockdown, because there's a lot of 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.920 rules around, like the way that you can interact with 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.960 the Bachelor, and like I know from my season, like 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.560 we didn't have any access to phones. You know, I 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.640 only got to speak to Matt when it was on camera, 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.920 and it was times that had been organized. However, during 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.640 this whole period of lockdown, what were the rules, like, 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.360 how was it how was it supposed to run? So 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.760 when we actually got out, when it was like, okay, 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.320 so there is a global pandemic and you're all going home. 0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:18.920 I think the first thing I actually said to Osha 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.680 was like, you pulling my leg because I didn't believe it. 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.200 And you because you don't know what's happening in the world, 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.320 you don't have access to the news. You just you're 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.680 so isolated in this little Stockholm syndrome bubble. 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.400 It's necessary before that the whole world has gone into lockdown. 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.120 If someone came to me and said that, you feel 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.680 like as as we're not allowed to leave our house, No, 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.760 it was just weird. So and on that first night, 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.720 it was actually like we didn't know if we were 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.200 going to be able to talk to Lockey, We didn't 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:45.680 know if we were staying in the mansion, if we 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.640 were going home. We didn't know if our families were okay. 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.600 So there was a lot of like unanswered questions. And 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.080 once we got home that night or the next night. 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.560 I think there was about two days before. One of 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:02.000 the producers had called me and it was a Monday morning. 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.560 I actually remember it so vividly because he was like, so, 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.280 I just want to give you like a debrief on 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.359 what's going to be happening now that you know we've 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.680 gone into hiatus. He was like, you will actually have 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.680 contact with Lockee one FaceTime a week, and then there'll 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.719 be like two days where you can text freely, unlimited 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.120 messages like whatever you want, and like a voice call 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.959 or whatever. And he was like, I'm going to send 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.640 Locke your number now. He'll probably call you at some 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.520 point today, and he mentioned that it might have been 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.000 like a FaceTime or video chat. So and I had 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.560 been sitting at home for three days. I was like, 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.960 my hair is oily. I haven't unpacked my bags. I 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.800 was like, there is no way I'm getting on FaceTime 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.600 to this man looking like this. Ran in the shower 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.840 like wash, I don't even know why. I was shaving 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.080 my legs. I was shaving my legs. I was like, like, 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.799 FaceTime video calls have really good clarity these days. 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.120 You need me to shave your legs. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.120 It was just like I remember Mum being like what 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.479 just happened? And I was like, Locky, like call me today. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.080 I just want to shower just in case it's soon. 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.640 Mid shower, my phone starts called and I was like, 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.759 part of me was like no, just like you know, 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.760 we don't even know if it's him. Just finish a shower. 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.280 And then I was like stop it. Got out of shower, 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.279 wet towel, answered the phone like played it cool, come 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.920 and collected. I was like hey, he's. 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.239 Like you are a toilet. 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.319 Literally and he was like hey, bells and I was like, 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.319 Lucky and then we just we were on the phone 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.880 for like five hours, so it's time. Yeah. So no, 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.520 it was the first chat was like a two minute 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.640 call to be like, hey, are you free for FaceTime 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.759 in like ten minutes and I was like yeah. I 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.520 was like, actually, just got out of the shower, so 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.239 let me pit yeah, and he was like not if 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:38.880 you don't want to. I was like okay, here we go, 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.319 and it begins and it begins. So yeah, so this 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.280 is kind of where schedule went out the window. Lucky 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.360 and I were talking every day, so it wasn't like 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.879 and he actually said to me he was like, I don't. 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:52.239 I want to talk to you as much as I can. 0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.560 Don't worry about only calling me on Tuesdays or whatever. 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.080 So it was from the get go that's where it 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.960 all started. So I know, I know what you were 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.600 just about. Yeah, just put her hand up to ask 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.560 a question. I know no one can see this, but 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.000 I'm so engrossed in this right now. 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.439 I am so engrossed on like four hours, I'm like, so, 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.719 did production know that you were talking this much? 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:15.440 Or was just like on the. 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.640 Sly So I kept it from production for the first 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.600 few weeks because I didn't want to get Locky in 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.719 trouble for not doing the right thing. And part of 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.000 me as well, I was like, you know what, it's 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.040 between Locke and I, like I'm not and this is 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:27.520 with the girls too. I was like, I wasn't telling 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.880 them how much we were talking because I didn't want to, like, 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.600 I don't want to rub that in, and part of 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.360 me was like, it's my connection with him anyway, So 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.040 I'm just going to keep that to myself. So I 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.760 didn't tell anyone, and he did say that he mentioned 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.000 to like his producer that we were speaking more than 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.480 we should have been. But I think that was like 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.600 he probably dumped it down a fair bit. It would 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.560 have just been unfair to the other girls when you 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.799 were having these conversations. Was he telling you that he 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.040 was speaking to the other girls just as much or 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.839 did you have this indication that it was just you 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.440 getting all this extra time and attention. Yeah, so he 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:00.759 told me I was the only one that he was 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.799 talking to every day. So it's actually funny because Beck 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.480 actually ended up saying to me once we moved in together, 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.120 we obviously and even in the house we were talking 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:10.880 about everything, and she was like, oh, Lockie told me 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.680 that I was the only one he was talking to 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:13.120 every day. 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.759 Oh yeah, as if this wasn't going to get back 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.000 between all the girls, Like I think guys are sometimes 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.480 really naive, especially in an environment like this. We the 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.400 women are on top of each other, you're spending all 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.799 day together, You're forming really quick, intense bonds with each other, 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.920 usually with each other more than him the bachelor. As 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.799 if you guys aren't going to start talking about the 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:34.400 fact that. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.799 Exactly that's the thing. And I think as well, like 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.279 little things like for example, where he added like a 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.600 few of the girls on Snapchat, and then one of 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.200 them had actually said it to me, so I was like, oh, 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.560 like do you have Snapchat? He was like no, no, 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.080 I don't. I don't have it. And then I was like, okay, 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.080 do people even thirty half snapchat? Like what sort of 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.799 pictures this one sending on Snapchat? That's what I want 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.359 to know. You know, it's probably not of his dog. 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.719 He's baking and eggs for breakfast. Maybe bacon, yeah, he's 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:02.280 me vacon. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:03.400 Maybe it is he do. 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.960 So did you get I'm like gonna make you feel uncomfortable, 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.160 but I want to know did he send you like 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.200 inappropriate messages? 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.440 I mean, I'm not saying inappropriate. 0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.040 I think the thing is it's not inapprop like, it's 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.920 not you know, when you're dating someone, you send a 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.040 little something, you know what I mean, Like you're just 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.440 you're keeping the relationship alive, the connection alive. You're in 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.960 a long distance relationship basically, so you know you're you're 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.040 doing what you can to keep that fire there and 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.000 that sexual chemistry. So like, no, I didn't get nude 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.520 and send him like nude photos, but of course we 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.360 like send a little message or you know, there were 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.800 some cheeky I think that's that's like a really important 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.279 thing to clarify, and also to compare that to how 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.560 the Bachelor normally sort of transpires or the normal typical 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.000 bachelor journey. So, like I mean, for me and Matt, 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.000 like nothing sexual ever happened on the show. The most 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.279 sexual thing that ever happened between him and I was 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.000 that he pushed me up against the wall and we like, hey, yeah, 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.480 very hardcore made out on one of my single dates. 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.480 But that was it, Like that was literally it. And 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.360 never ever ever did he give me any verbal affirmation 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.360 that it was going to be me. Never did I 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.800 ever feel confident that it was going to be me either. 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.160 So then all of that happening throughout lockdown and like 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.200 that is a three month period or a two and 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.880 a half month window. Yeah, it was about two and 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.920 a half months off completely off camera. It was just 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.840 like normal life. And then we had a couple of 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.680 weeks of love and lockdown and filming, and then we 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.719 went back into the mansion after that. Yeah, so that's 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.600 like a few months there where you're unsupervised or outside 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.279 of the bachelor bubble. The rules don't apply anymore, and 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.240 you're having a legitimate relationship with someone. I mean, i'lbeit 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.239 he's still seeing other people, but aren't all guys in 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:42.280 Sydney when you're dead. 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:43.920 That is my whole. 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.000 Life exactly and out of the back actually, and I 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.040 actually I remember saying to him at one point, I 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.719 was like, oh, because I said to him, I was like, 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.399 you know, what's going to happen. What if we don't 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.239 go back to filming, Like what then? And he was like, 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.200 I'll just fly over to Perth. So there was a 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:57.560 lot of things that he had said to me that 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.040 was like for me going back into the mansion and 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.040 it was just like, this is a home run. Don't 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.560 stress like everything's going to be okay, don't freak yourself out, 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.640 don't let the other girls get in your head. So 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.680 going back in there, I think that's why I had 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:12.040 that sense of confidence, because he had basically told me 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.160 that it was just going back in to finish this thing, 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.520 and then pretty much that was it. 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.560 Like there was a formality you just had to tie exactly. 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.399 And I think that's why obviously there was a lot 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.160 that happened during lockdown that wasn't just between Locke and 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:26.560 I it was all of the girls. So there were 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.840 girls at the beginning of you know, when we started 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.600 filming that never even said a word to me. And 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.560 then during Lockdown and the filming of Love in Lockdown, 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.759 things were coming to air and they were just like, 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.040 we're sorry that we weren't mates with you at the 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.680 beginning of this because of you know, life. So talk 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.799 me through what happened with your relationships, because obviously things 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.880 changed with you and Locky during Lockdown, but I was 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.719 very very clear to everybody who followed the show that 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.200 your friendships changed as well. And obviously that was a 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.480 time when things started to really go south with Irena, 0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.480 and obviously there was more to the story. Yeah, I 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.359 think anyone who watched that episode that first copped our 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.959 party back after Lockdown, Yeah, where the fight transpired between 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.040 you and Irena could tell that the fight didn't really 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:10.759 make a lot of sense and that there may have 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.560 been more context behind it. Of course, like, let's put 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.319 it this way, I wouldn't have had a reaction like 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.480 that unless I was not only pissed off but devastated. 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.279 I was upset, and that's why in that moment, my 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.840 emotions just got the best of me, and I think, obviously, 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.799 what you're not seeing is that like, yes, I said 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.080 these things, but you're not seeing the questions that I 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.520 was asked to get these answers. It's more so coming 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.520 across like I'm just saying these things on my own 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.799 accord without being prompted. But I was being prompted, and 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.640 it's kind of like these emotional reactions that I'm having 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.880 are reactions. They aren't just me throwing my hands up 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.520 in the air having a cry and being like friendship done. 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.200 That was like a half an hour of forty five 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.520 minute chat. And the thing is as well, like there 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.759 was a lot that you actually saw in filming, which 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.440 was interesting for me to watch it back where I 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.560 did notice that Irena had been doing little things behind 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.239 my back, and I think I just kind of turned 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.360 a blind eye to it because you are in this 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.560 situation where you know, you are with women who were 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.279 also falling in love with the same man. So part 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.200 of me was just like, it's fine, like we're all 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.480 gonna we're all gonna say little things and little remarks. 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.680 But that one night that really changed things for me 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.440 was the whole Bella Kiss Locky at the cocktail party, 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.840 and when Irena had actually told Roxy that, when in 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.319 actual fact, Irena had kissed him that night too, so 0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.439 oh wow, we just didn't see it, and you didn't 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.920 see that. So it's little things like that where I 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.240 hadn't even she never told me that she told Roxy. 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.920 So when Roxy popped off about LOCKI and I having 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.640 a peck, I was like, how did Roxy find out? 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.440 And Irena was like, oh, like, I'm not sure. So 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.960 it was interesting watching that back. So she passed him 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:48.759 as well that night? Ye? 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.160 And did he pass anyone else at the cocktail party? 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.640 Oh yeah, I think I think our good Sun passed 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.680 a few people at he didn't hold bad. 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.160 This is what is a bit of a red flag 0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:58.360 for me. 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.560 If I'm being honest, I don't know if I'm alone this, Laura, 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:04.080 you can tell me how you think for me. I 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.240 know that Nick kissed one person at the cocktail party. 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.240 I'm not gonna say who, because I know that that happened, 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.520 but they never showed it. Yeah, okay, and I really 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:12.960 like this girl, don't It doesn't bother me. 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.200 But if he if I knew Nick was kissing. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.960 Women at the cocktail party, multiple women, I almost feel 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.160 like I would have been done with the show because 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.319 to me, that's a bit of a level of disrespect. 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.160 I just thought like, maybe it's different if there's one 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.640 clear winter from the beginning, it's away from other people, 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.640 but like to be just passing everyone at the cocktail 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.680 parties with all the other girls, I just I just 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:34.560 turned me off a little bit. 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.680 Yeah. I also think that people who haven't been on 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.839 the show don't realize that this is like this unspoken rule, 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.200 like you can do whatever you want on your date, 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.640 but for some reason, yeah, there is this rule that 0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.319 exists between like the girl code of the show that 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.880 you don't kiss a guy at the cocktail party. Yeah. Right, 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.400 but like obviously that kind of went out the window 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.440 in your season, and if everyone was doing it, then 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.120 maybe then then the stakes kind of change. Yeah, And 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.600 I think as well, especially with Lockie, Like even in 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.960 that moment, I actually remember being like like he was 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:04.560 like give me a little like a little kiss, and 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.520 I was like, I can't like the girls. But then 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.520 he was like, yeah, but are you here for me? 0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:12.600 Here for the girls? Oh, Psyche, you know what I mean. 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:16.000 So in Locke's head, he's not thinking, oh, like she's 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.479 she's caring for the girls, but then what's her what's 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.200 her priority here? And that It's actually funny because obviously 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.200 the TV made it look like it was a lot longer, 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.319 but it was literally just like a little pet goodbye 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.080 just before we got off the couch and walked away. 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.560 So it was just like little moments like that where 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.680 I'm like, when you're actually falling for someone and they're like, well, 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.839 what's your priority here? And I'm like, well, you are 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.360 my priority at the end of the day, Like I 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.880 didn't necessarily come into this thing to find best mates, 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.759 even though I'm really grateful that I did. But yeah, 0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.000 so little moments like that, and I think as well, 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.640 like I obviously I hadn't seen any of Arena doing 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.360 those things. So during lockdown, that's what happened. It all 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.359 started coming to air all the things that she had 0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:00.640 been saying to stephan Easy had kind of came and 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.160 told me about all that stuff. So that night back 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.720 in the mansion was all of that coming to surface. 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:07.759 Do you know what those things were? Like? Do you 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.439 have some context of that? So she tried to tell 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.080 a few of the girls that I had body shamed her, 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.960 which literally never happened. She actually has a great body. 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.239 She's a babe, and I should constantly tell her that. 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.719 So when stephan Izzy told me that she had been 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.799 telling them my body shamed her and then she was 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.080 saying the same thing to Roxy and Maddie and this 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.319 is in text, I obviously got really upset and that 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.560 I apparently I said Locki would never find her attractive. 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.560 So I was really upset, so told Locki that I 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.960 had a fight with Ariba about who was the biggest socialite. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.040 Never I don't think I've ever even said like five 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.120 words to Ariba. We were in the same room at 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.359 the beginning for like a week, and I literally don't 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.200 even think we said more than like good morning to 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.520 each other once. So things like that where Lockie then 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.840 admitted to me he was like, you know, I'm questioning 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.040 your integrity because of you know, the fact that you 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.240 had a fight with Ariba about who was the bigger socialite. 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.840 And I was like, what, So, what. 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.799 Was the actual the lead up and the blow up 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:05.759 with you in arena that night? 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.719 What was that we didn't see? What was co I 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.760 remember going to the bathroom and coming back in irena, 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.920 was sitting there at the couch waiting for me. Oh, 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.520 I hate those set up chats. Yeah, I've been thrown 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:20.759 into my door kicking on. And then this chat set 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:26.440 up chat happened and she was just like the first 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.040 thing she said to me was like I miss my 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:32.359 Bella and I miss our friendship. And I was like 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.560 sitting there thinking about it, and I'd actually been like 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.879 five minutes ago, five minutes before that, I could hear 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:41.200 her like having a yarn with Roxy and Maney about me, 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.080 and then it just like I just got really frustrated 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.640 because when I feel like someone's being shady, I often 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.200 call them out on their bullshit, like I did with 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:53.000 Lockie at the end that path. Yeah, so little things 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.640 like that where I was just like, I was getting 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.800 frustrated in that moment, and then I said, look, Irena, 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.480 I was like, I've just heard some things during lockdown 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:02.800 that Steph and Easy have told me you said to them. 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.120 So we started talking about it, and then Steph had 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.600 overheard Irena say I never said that, and then Steph 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.440 got the shits and came over and she was like, 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.840 just let me clarify here. You're telling me that you 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.800 never said that. If you didn't say that to me, 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.480 and you weren't talking about it for the hour flight 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.480 back on the plane to Melbourne. What are we talking about? Then? 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.440 Easy then came and sat down and that's when it 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.520 all kind of came to a head, and Steph was 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.359 getting upset and I was just like, you know what, 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.200 it doesn't matter. I was like at the end of 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:32.440 the day, I think I turned around and I said 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.440 to her, I was like, Irena, if I've been body 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.319 shaming you and I'm this horrid person that you're making 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:38.799 me out to be, why do you want to sit 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.759 here and be friends with me again? I mean, I 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.759 feel for Arena as well, because she would obviously be 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.359 in the same place as you and probably have been 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:48.600 in contact with Lockie all the time and thinking that 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.680 she was the only one exactly who it was going 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.000 to be. So I do really feel for her, and 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.040 also for the fact that, like you are pitted against 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.399 each other, you are in competition, and it does put 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.319 incredible strain on those frames. But watching it back on 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.800 TV as a viewer, you only get a very small 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.440 sliver of what actually happens, because you've got to remember, 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.640 we're filming all day every day, for months and that's 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.800 all condensed down into two one hour episodes a week, 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.719 and so it's very easy to take things and rechange 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.320 the context of an argument or a fight and create 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.000 it's a show. It's entertaxactly, and it's amazingly entertaining, but 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:25.799 it's also real people's lives that are on the other 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.799 end of this as well. Yep. And I think at 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.200 the end of the day, right, like Irena and I 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.319 had been given a lot of reassurance, so coming back 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.200 in we were both so in love with this man 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:38.040 that like even looking back and thinking of the little 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.960 things that started that argument, and I'm like, ultimately it 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.640 was just like he said, she said, she said this, 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.480 and then you got the shits and blah blah blah, 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.080 blah blah, And it's like, ultimately we were just two 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:49.520 women that were in love with the men and didn't 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.479 want that to get in the way of us having 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:54.399 our happily ever after. So it was just it all 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.600 came to a head. And also you're in that situation 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:02.080 that pulls emotions out of you in ways that you 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:07.520 wouldn't really react that way that quickly, So I think, like, yeah, 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.840 there are probably some things that I should have internalized, 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:10.879 but I. 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.759 Was kind such a bitch. 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.319 Exactly, so I think, like, ultimately I look back and 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:21.880 I'm like, shit happened. I got annoyed that of the 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.640 things that she was doing, She got annoyed with some 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:25.719 of the things that I was obviously doing, and it 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:27.840 just kind of came to a head. And for me, 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.120 I just was in a headspace at that time where 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.960 I was like, I don't have space for this in 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.840 my life. But also I think, like, you know, and 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:38.000 not to like harp on about it, but I do 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.200 think it's a reflection of this changing the way that 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.360 that lockdown has changed the dynamic of the conversations. I 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.919 can only assume that if you were receiving that level 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.160 of reassurance from Lockie, that Irena was probably receiving the same, 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:53.360 of course, And that is incredibly conflicting and a really 0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.640 difficult thing to come back into the mansion, especially when 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.520 you're both talking about your own personal experiences and saying, oh, well, 0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.399 I spoke to him every day, and then you're being 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.960 told by him that, well, I haven't spoken to anybody 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.440 else like this, but there's someone else there saying It's like, 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.480 who's lying in the exact way. So this is like 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.719 one of the things that I got frustrated about was 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.239 I was keeping everything to myself, And Lockie actually said 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.160 that to me. He was like, I really appreciate the 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.560 fact that everything we've spoken about, you haven't gone and 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.200 told the other girls. You're not telling them how much 0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:19.840 we talk. You're keeping it all to yourself. And he 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.720 was like, thank you for being so. 0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:24.120 Thank you for allowing me to do what I'm doing 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:25.600 and speak to everyone else without their name. 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:33.439 So I really appreciate it. Keeping our relationship is secret. Yeah, 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.239 everything's gonna go off like a bag of prowles and 0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.160 your son exactly which ended up happening. 0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.759 When you're so in love with this person and this 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:42.680 is not just a bachelor this is real life too. 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:44.200 When you're in love with this person and you want 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:45.719 to be with them and you've imagined your life with them, 0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.239 you believe everything they say. If anyone else comes in 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.080 and threatens that not even threatens it, but if she says, well, 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:55.080 we're talking too, and he's told you he's not, you're 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.839 going to favor him. You're gonna believe him, So you're 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.160 gonna be like, well, you're lying, Arena, because he wouldn't 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.520 have told me this if it wasn't exactly ya. 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:03.480 And she's the same, She's gonna be like Bella. 0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.440 I'm talking to her every day like obviously you're telling 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.400 FIBs like yeah, probably just this. 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.200 There's no way lock you lie to me. 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.839 Feeling exactly And I think, as well, that's kind of why, 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.279 and like, don't get me wrong, like, yes, it blew 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.520 up that night, but we were still civil in the house, 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.840 Like STEPHANIZI runed with Arena. We'd all chill by the fire, 0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:24.200 like we had family dinners, we'd watch movies together. Like 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:28.359 it's not like we were like pitted together against each 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.239 other the whole time. Well, I have a whole lot 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:31.840 of rumors that we're going to attend to at the 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.319 end of this episode. That's what happens every year. I 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.280 mean every year there's things that come out in the media. 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.960 There's always stories that are perpetuated that that push a 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.200 certain narrative, you know, there's always I mean I remember 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.719 when when it was Matt and My season, and the 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.640 story was that we had a secret pack from the beginning, 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.680 we knew each other before the show, and it was 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.120 always going to be me at the end. Obviously that's 0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.279 not true. It never happened, But there's still people out 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.800 there who believe that. Yeah, and it's the one person 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.480 that says it, and then five media it's big en 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.239 up and then all of a sudden, it came from 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.719 my mouth and it's like what Yeah, And all of 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.719 a sudden, because the media is reported on it and 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:10.120 it's become viral news, it also becomes fact. Yeah. And 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.000 that's the thing that I think can be most frustrating 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.640 when you're in this position, and it's a position that 0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.200 like nobody can prepare you for when everyone's talking about 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.000 you and you don't have the ability to say, hey, 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.480 that's not true, this is what happened, This isn't my 0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.360 side of the story. Yeah, it has been. It's been like, honestly, 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.839 I've been learning new things about myself every day with 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.640 all the stuff that's been coming out in the media. 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.560 So it's kind of just like, yeah, I'm keen to 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.800 debunk some of those rumors with you guys, that's for sure. 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:37.600 So were you in love with Lockie at this point 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.040 of the show where you and Arena had the chat 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:41.920 or did you just feel like it was still building. 0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:44.600 Well, like at that time, like Loki and I had 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.279 already been sending like you know when you like love 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.160 heart emoji you and stuff like that, so we kind 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.359 of almost got there. And it's like when you're looking 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.719 at someone and you're like, I want to say it, 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.279 but I'm stopping myself because that's like the final thing. 0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.760 And I think as well, like I knew that something 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:02.880 that happened at finale, so I was like waiting for that, 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:04.120 but I think. 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.719 What usually happens, I'm saving this for the end. 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:12.040 Yeah, yeah, saving this for the end jokes, but no, 0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:15.239 it was just it was one of those things where 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:16.960 I was like, that's how you know it's real when 0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:19.840 you genuinely when it almost slips out of your mouth 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.000 five times. So to be honest, those like saying I 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:24.480 love you is a really hard thing for me to 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.759 do in relationships. It is an absolute trigger and a 0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.160 half that I should probably start dealing with at some point. 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:32.920 But I think I have said it to people in 0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:36.000 the past and it has just like kind of kicked 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.640 me while I was down, and I think saying I 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:40.520 love you and not hearing it back is probably the 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:42.760 hardest thing you'd ever have to deal with, and having 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.759 that in two relationships before this, I think I was 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:49.560 just petrified knowing that if I say it, I actually 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.280 won't be able to hear it back in this situation. 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.400 So it was really scary for me and just opening 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:59.600 myself up to being in love again. And that's why 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.200 I was so upset at Hometowns because I was so 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.440 in love with him at Hometowns. When that stuff happened 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.640 with Irena, I knew I loved him, but I don't. 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.440 I was still a little bit like you're still on 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.439 that journey. So it was kind of like I knew 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.279 I loved him, but I hadn't admitted it to myself yet. 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.279 But Hometowns was that the head where it came to, 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.799 and I was like, holy crap, Like I'm genuinely in 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:23.960 love with this person, and that petrifies me. 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.360 I'm glad you brought up Hometowns because I have a question, 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:30.440 and I think everyone has this questions your heart. 0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:35.880 Step mate, he walked on screen and I was like, 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.120 hot brother. Literally what I said, if I get one 0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:44.000 more stepdaddy meme, I'm going to stepdaddy vibe. 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.000 I want to know what your mom's I would like 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.840 some advice from your mom because I'm currently looking. 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.279 I should have brought her on the podcast. She would 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:50.719 have loved that. 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.279 I think I think probably might have been a good thing, 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.759 but I think he was definitely the conversation of your hometown. 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.880 I saw a meme that was something like when Bella's 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.040 stepdut is the hottest man to walk on The Bachelor 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:07.879 of twenty twenty, and I was like, wow, wow, no, 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.279 but he their relationship is actually blessed. I got a 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:13.319 kick out of that night because I love saying my 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.839 dad and my stepdad in the same room because they're 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:19.400 so different, like they are literally it's literally like you 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:22.040 know when you have the two relationships in your life, 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:25.760 and like one was the makes sense passionate you know, sorry, 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.399 that makes sense, Like we were together for so long 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.000 and then that's the natural thing to do is to 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:32.279 get married and have babies. And then the other one 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.960 is the guy that was like the you know, the 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:38.000 passion and like yeah, So it was like it's funny 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.360 seeing them both together because it's literally both sides of 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.799 my mom in one room. But he is thirteen years 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.800 younger than mom. So they met when he was twenty 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.719 one and she was thirty three, so he I think 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:51.839 that's why when some people are like, oh, like men 0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:54.080 mature later or young men don't know what they want, 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.560 and it's like, well sometimes they do. It's just so 0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:58.600 hilarious because I had this conversation with brit all the 0:55:58.640 --> 0:55:59.960 time and I'm like, you really need to up your 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.200 radius on Tinder and stopped ye old by. 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.920 We've dated a few younger guys and not twenty one. 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:09.480 But well pretty much they met at a dirty night club, so. 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.080 Well we're not allowed to do that. Laura is always 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:12.440 on my back. 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.080 She's like literally not under thirty, whereas I've gone a 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.040 couple of years younger than thirty. And I thought, I 0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.520 always say they don't see that age, and I think 0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:21.680 age is just a number. At a same point in time, 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.120 age becomes a number. It's a connection, it can be 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.759 a cure. So thank you for I've dated. 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:29.839 I've dated men in the early thirties and they act 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.759 like the eighteen No. I want to I want okay, 0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.400 I want to fuss forward this now you to finale issue, 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:38.200 not not the finale, but like the days leading up 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.080 to finale the pool. Yeah, I want to talk about 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.120 the pool. No, first thing I want to talk about. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.719 I want to talk about you meeting Lockie's mum and 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:47.960 one of the things that I saw in that meeting, 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.200 because I remember when I met Matt's mum. I actually 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.200 I had the most beautiful time meeting his mum, Like 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:57.239 we got on like a house on fire. Ellie is 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:58.960 one of the people I'm closest to in the world 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:05.279 now and exceevert britty. But my meeting, like when they 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.520 showed it on the TV, that was actually something that 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.600 was such a trigger for me because the way that 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:12.759 it was edited and watching me meet Matt's mum back 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:15.840 was made to look like I was completely neurotic. It 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.480 made it look like I was an insane person and 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.160 that me and his mum didn't get along at all, 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.920 which is completely not what happened. But when I watched 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.040 you guys meet, which one, it was weird because you 0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:29.440 were together and that's never meant to humming. You were 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:31.720 very quick to talk about your friendship with Arena and 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.960 the fact that you weren't friends anymore, and that's what 0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.000 it looked like. But I was sitting there watching it 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.760 being like, I feel like you've got prompt by this, 0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:40.960 so I want to know what happened there. We were 0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.040 just having a chat, talking about like we're talking about 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:46.600 the whole experience, and then she actually whipped out the question, 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.680 being like, so I've heard you guys used to be 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:53.280 really close friends. Producers asked me to ask you this question, literally, 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:55.400 so I have to ask this question. I could see 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.320 in her face She's like, so what happened? And I'm like, 0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:00.160 here we go. And then I actually waited for a 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.640 little bit because I was like oh, and then I 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:05.960 was like, is Irena gonna And I was like, here 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.440 we go. Goal just answer it because I'm not going 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.960 to sit here awkwardly while his mother's staring at me. 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:14.720 And I'm like, but I think that's why I kind 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:15.960 of just answered. I was like, I'm not going to 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.320 lie to my potential future mother in law. So I 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.439 was like, look, yeah, we used to be close. We're 0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.240 not that close anymore. And then Irena literally was just 0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:25.680 sitting there. So I was like, hey, Rena, like pop 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:28.720 in anytime you want, like, and she was just like 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.560 and I was like, oh, it's really interesting getting that 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:34.720 context though, because I think, like when you watch it 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:36.960 on the show, it really does seem like you're just 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:40.760 offering us a nation freely. But often oftentimes when conversations 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:42.720 do pop up, it's because you've been prompted to have 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.960 those conversationally, You've been asked a specific question, and then 0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.760 obviously questions can be easily removed to allow the conversations 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.919 seem like it's taken a different turn. But that's why 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:54.560 it looked like I was just like trying to pipe 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.600 in constantly, and I was like, I'm really alone away, 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:02.200 but it was it was, yeah, pick me, pick me. 0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:07.040 She's like, I think you have that like the passion 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:08.840 in you to put Locky in his place when he 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.880 needs to be put in his place. And I think 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:14.320 that's one thing that she did say, And she was like, 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.280 look like often Locke thinks it's his world and you 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.400 know everyone else is living in it. But I think 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:21.880 I kind of even said to her, I was like, well, 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:23.640 you know, I was Locky. As long as Lockie is 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.200 going to take some of my wants and needs into 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.640 consideration as well, then that's sweet. But I actually don't 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:31.160 know if that's like, I don't know if I don't 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.480 know if that's actually true. Yeah, because I think, like 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:35.000 I think he said, and he even said that to me. 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:36.640 He's like, I love that you're passionate. I love that 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.920 you have your own I love that you have your 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:40.920 own goals and where you want to be and stuff 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:42.520 like that. But now I look back and I'm like, 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:47.800 do you like I wonder if I actually really hate 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.600 the conversation and like, I mean this is more just 0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:52.720 from a relationship perspective, yeah, Like I hate this idea 0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:54.800 that as women you have to keep your man in line. 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.160 And I mean we've had this conversation around Bachelor in 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.439 Paradise when Britt had her experience with Tim, and one 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.840 was sort of messaging on social media being like, you know, 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.320 get your man in line. He should be behaving like this, and. 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:08.919 I was like, bitch, I've known him for two weeks 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:10.480 and he's not my man and it's not my job 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:11.000 to keep It's. 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.160 Not your place. Yeah, And I think, like, you know, 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:15.760 if a grown man needs to be kept in line 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.760 or be kept accountable to behave correctly, then maybe they're 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:21.640 not a fully grown exactly. And at the end of 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:23.280 the day, like, well, a girlfriend is supposed to be 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.000 a partner, he's supposed to be a team. He's supposed 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:26.400 to be mates. It's not a mother. 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:28.760 That's what I said to I was like, I'm not 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:30.920 here to mother him if he's my partner and he 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:32.480 can make his own decisions, and I'll talk to him 1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:33.120 about it later. 1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:36.440 Yeah exactly did. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean I watched 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:38.400 that and I really I kind of I hated that 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.320 that was what was kind of deemed as a necessity 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:43.320 as a partner, and like, look, I know that everybody 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:45.240 has different needs and different wants, but like for me, 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:45.640 I was. 1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:47.000 Like me red Flag. 1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:50.080 I was like brettiant he all over like a hot 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:56.920 look too soon, Laura, Yeah, no, I think, And I 1:00:56.920 --> 1:00:59.320 think that's why as well, like I was never giving 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.600 Lucky answers that he wanted to hear. For example, Paul 1:01:02.680 --> 1:01:06.000 chat that was me in that pool. We had been 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:09.560 speaking about our future postbatch for months during lockdown, so 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:12.720 when the producers were like, hey, guys, maybe talk about 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.240 your future, because we were literally fluffing around in the pool, 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.960 like throwing doing stupid shit under the waters. Can I 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:22.800 swear even sweat the time we were doing it, like 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.040 we were just having like if you and your boyfriend 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:26.640 were in a pool. We were just having a laugh, 1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:29.320 having champagne. So when they were like, have a chat 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:31.040 about your future, and it was like, but we've already 1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.280 spoken about everything, so that's why it was like when 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:36.720 he was like, oh, what do you see in your future? 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:38.080 And I kind of said to him, I was like, 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:39.200 you know, we said that we're going to be in 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:41.480 Sydney until March and then we'll go from there and 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:45.120 just get out of this and just normalize again, because 1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:48.120 I think it's been this constant in between filming, filming, 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.760 not filming, dating other women, Like let's just get out 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:54.280 of this and then we'll figure out everything after. And 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:57.040 he was constantly saying like he would contradict himself. He'd 1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:59.600 be like, I'm not a planner, so like, you know, 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:01.080 I just want to know that, you know, because I 1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:02.760 know that you're a planner. Is like I just want 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:04.360 to know if we can balance each other out. And 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.040 I was like, yeah, like you know, I'm yes, I'm 1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:08.880 a planner. Like I'm not gonna up and leave and 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:11.240 move to Greece in a week, but give me a 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:12.880 few weeks and we can make it happen. Or like 1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.000 when he was like, where do you see yourself in 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.560 the next three months, and it's like, well, I don't know, 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.200 it depends on you know, are we going to be 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:20.640 in Sydney, We're going to be in Perth. That's a 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.080 decision we have to make after And he's like, well, 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:24.520 I've already planned out three months and I'm like, but 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.360 you just told me you want a planner. So I 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:28.960 was just kind of getting confused, and that's why I 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:32.080 grabbed his face and I was like, Lucky, at the 1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:33.720 end of the day, I don't care what we do 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.760 after this, as long as we're together, because ultimately, that's 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:39.280 all I cared about. I don't care if we're sitting 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:43.400 in on a tent eating sausages over a fire. I 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.160 don't care if we're on the floor or a restaurant. 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.280 At the end of the day, let's just do us. 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:51.440 But that obviously wasn't enough for him, so it was it. 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:53.480 Was hard to watch, But it's just very obvious now 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:56.400 watching him back, and once we watched him gaslight you, 1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:58.720 which we'll get to in a minute, once we watch 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.880 the whole thing, I think it's obvious that I think 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:04.600 he loved you one hundred percent. He was grasping its 1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:07.560 straws to find a reason. He had to find a reason. Yeah, 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:12.200 and you're saying he contradicted himself. I remember my finale 1:03:12.280 --> 1:03:14.479 with Nick. He's the same thing. He spent the whole 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:19.080 time saying, it's crazy how perfect our timelines are. It's 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:21.760 crazy that everything we want is exactly the same. And 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:23.960 then at the end his excuse to me was like, 1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:27.200 literally the night before, at midnight, he had said we 1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:30.200 are on exactly the same timeline, that it's crazy. Then 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.760 finale he was like, I just feel like our timelines 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:34.840 don't match. And I was like, and they cut that, 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:37.520 so they cut him saying our timeline was perfect, and 1:03:37.520 --> 1:03:39.320 then they're like, our timelines don't match, and I was like, 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:40.480 what the hell. 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:42.760 Yeah, I think that's why I got frustrated, because I 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.440 was just like, like, that's not you can't. That's when 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:46.920 I turned around. I was like, you can't put that 1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:48.680 on me, Like, you can't. And I think at the 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:51.800 end of the day, like he obviously just didn't love 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:55.240 me enough, which is like my literal standard in every relationship, 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:57.480 they don't ever love me enough, Like they always end 1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:00.400 up with the girl that comes along. That's more all 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.400 this and all that so I think in that moment 1:04:04.240 --> 1:04:06.480 that's why I was just like, I am not I've 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:08.240 done that in the past where I'm going to say 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:11.520 or I've said what i feel like he wants to hear, 1:04:11.840 --> 1:04:15.240 so you know, my previous relationships. But this time I 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:17.000 was like, I'm not doing that again. If someone's gonna 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:20.040 love me, they're gonna love me for me. And I 1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:22.320 think that's why I was just like, you know, at 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:24.840 the end of the day, what I'm saying to him 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.520 isn't what he wants to hear. Then obviously it's just not. 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.960 When did you realize was there a moment Maybe it 1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:32.200 was in the pool, maybe it wasn't n ttil the 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.880 very end. When was the moment that it clicked where. 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:39.720 You're like, it's not me. I had a really weird 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:42.280 feeling that whole day. That whole day of finale, I 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:44.280 was just like, because even my producer was like, but 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:47.280 why would he say, Why would he tell you he 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:50.960 loves you if he's not you know? And I was like, honestly, 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:52.720 I was like, don't kill me for thinking about this. 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:54.360 But I am pretty logical in the sense where I 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:57.560 was like, in a sense of timeline for the episode 1:04:57.880 --> 1:04:59.480 doesn't make sense for him to tell me he loved 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:02.880 me yesterday, Like something doesn't make sense. It's not adding up. 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:06.240 Either IRENA's already left or he's told her he loves 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:08.520 her too, and that no one would confirm it with me, 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:10.120 and no one put that in my head. It was 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:13.400 just me like I was just something didn't feel right, 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:18.040 and I think I wasn't letting myself believe it until 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:20.520 I was in that moment and I was hearing him 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:22.720 say I love you and there's no one else in 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:25.680 this but us. So I think for me, once I 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:28.560 was walking up to him, I kind of just like, 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:31.400 I don't know. A part of me was like, am 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:35.160 I wigging myself out? Am I trying to like balance 1:05:35.240 --> 1:05:39.080 my expectations? Am I just so? I just I was 1:05:39.120 --> 1:05:41.280 confused that whole day. I was just a mess. 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:44.240 So walking up to him at the end, there was 1:05:44.240 --> 1:05:45.160 was there still more of you. 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:47.280 That thought it was you or we? Actually in that 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:49.280 moment when I was walking up to him, I was like, oh, 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.560 I was like no, I actually thought I was like, Okay, 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:53.320 maybe I've just been wigging myself out, because as soon 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:54.600 as I saw him, I was like, I do love 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:57.400 this man and like he loves me too, and maybe 1:05:57.400 --> 1:05:59.240 it's fine, and I've just been freaking myself out and 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:00.680 I was like, it's fine, thing's fine. And then they 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:02.160 get to him and he starts crying, and I was like, 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:04.840 what is going on? But I think always and like 1:06:04.920 --> 1:06:07.560 the reality of the show and the way that it 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:10.840 works is that you never feel one hundred percent at 1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:14.160 the end, like I was convinced it wasn't me. Yeah, 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:16.840 like I was. And even though Matt, even though he 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.120 wasn't verbal and never affirmed I love you, which I 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:22.200 think Lockie really took that upon himself, like he really 1:06:22.240 --> 1:06:24.960 broke like the one Bachelor Cardinal's saying, which is like 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.280 they never say I love you. And I said that 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:30.680 to him. I was like, you went unnecessarily above and beyond. 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:32.400 There are things that you did not have to say, 1:06:32.440 --> 1:06:34.520 And I said, yes, you had to. You had to 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:37.080 explore connections, and you had to be in the moment 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.360 with those people. You did not have to tell me 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:41.280 you loved me and that you want to make me 1:06:41.280 --> 1:06:43.040 had the rest my life. There are things that you 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:47.080 did not have to do. And I think, yeah, I 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:48.360 guess I kind of just called him out on his 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:50.240 shit and he probably just didn't like that. So was 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.600 there anything else that happened in that finale day that 1:06:52.680 --> 1:06:59.840 we didn't see? Yeah, and I want to know that, 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:06.600 got it. I might have like just before turning to 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:09.600 the cameras and be like, can I leave? Oh my god, 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:13.200 what do you say? Tell me? I looked at him 1:07:13.640 --> 1:07:16.960 and he was I love you and no, like I do, 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:18.720 and I meant everything I said, and I was like, 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.080 you've got on a tattooed on your chest, mate, And 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:22.880 that's when I looked at the cameras and I was like, 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:27.000 it's actually so great, and I was like I looked 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:29.320 at I looked at the cameras, and I was like, 1:07:29.600 --> 1:07:31.760 can I leave? And I saw like all of the 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:34.280 crew were like sitting there and like had their hands 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:37.120 over their face and like a few of them were crying. 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.520 Others were like yes, get a girl, get it. And 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:43.439 then they were all just like nodding their heads like yeah, leave, 1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:46.400 and I was just like I'm going. He screamed when 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:49.120 after I walked off, scream He literally screamed at the 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:49.960 top of his lungs. 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:50.400 Fuck. 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:53.320 And I was like, don't turn around, don't do it, 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:55.640 just keep walking, keep walking, keep walking, walked, kept walking. 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:57.800 Saw my producer. She was bowling her eyes out and 1:07:57.840 --> 1:07:59.160 I was like, don't do it until you get in 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:01.160 the car. In the car closed the door and I 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:04.080 was like, I just want to go home. And I 1:08:04.080 --> 1:08:07.120 think just like it was a mess everyone who watched that. 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:10.800 I think like I was a mess. I was crying. Yeah, 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:12.720 I was crying. I called you a finale night you 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:15.200 were kind was crying. It was. But I think like 1:08:15.760 --> 1:08:18.879 I drank a bowl of wine. I drank a triggered 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:21.439 I drank too. I'm way too pregnant to watch a 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:24.000 Bachelor finale right now. I need some wine in my life. 1:08:24.439 --> 1:08:27.320 But I think, you know, the finales are always emotional. 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:29.400 I don't think there's ever been a finale where you 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:32.920 haven't or that you know, collectively Australia hasn't really banded 1:08:32.920 --> 1:08:35.680 behind the person who's been heartbroken. But I think in 1:08:35.720 --> 1:08:39.839 this instance, because it was taken so far and because 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:42.080 he really did affirm his feelings for both of you, 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:44.840 it just took it to a whole new level. And 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:47.080 it also I don't know if this is a fair 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:49.360 thing to say, because I kind of I actually really 1:08:49.439 --> 1:08:53.120 feel sorry for Irena Unlockey now, but I think it 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:56.720 took a shine off their finale because usually I love 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:59.519 you as never said and then until it's the one 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:02.040 thing that held and kept kind of sacred for the 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:04.920 last two people, and then all of a sudden it 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:07.320 had been said so many times in an episode that 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:09.400 it had lost its meeting a little bit. Yeah, I 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:11.880 mean it's that one moment as well. Like even when 1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:14.400 I watched you and Matt's finale and when he was 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:16.439 telling you he loved you, and I bloody started crying 1:09:16.439 --> 1:09:18.559 because I was like, it's so beautil love is so 1:09:18.880 --> 1:09:22.080 nice and I love each other, and I think, like you, 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:27.360 it's that moment of like that like overwhelming feeling of 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:31.040 love that everyone ultimately wants to find. So like I 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:33.840 think in that moment, for me, I was just like, 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:36.360 That's why I was so confused when he'd said it, 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:38.040 because I was like, but that was supposed to be 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:40.479 like at the the end, I just I don't know, 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:43.160 it felt weird. I do, like I have to admit, 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.599 like I do ultimately like, yes, he's not the person 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:49.320 for me, but if they're soulmates or if they're in 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:51.439 love with each other, then like I do genuinely wish 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:54.679 them happiness. It just I just think he probably should 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:56.080 have been a little bit more careful with his words. 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:56.479 That's all. 1:09:56.600 --> 1:09:58.200 We need to touch on the fact that it is 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:01.240 amazing and the Bachelor strikes again. It's a success story. 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.880 They've found love. They look really happy, and I'm so 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.880 no I bet like we can't ignore that. I'm so 1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:11.960 I'm so here for that, But that's what the Bachelor's about. Unfortunately, 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:15.840 every bachelor there's someone that's heartbroken. Do I think that 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:18.720 Lockie weren't about it the right way? Absolutely not. I 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.360 think he fucked a lot of shit up. I just 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:23.040 want to touch on something that you just said before 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.800 because it resonated with me. But when you said, no 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:28.960 one ever loves me as much, I'm as me and 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:30.880 I'm never good enough for anyone and I'm never the one, 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:32.400 And I think it's important. 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:33.439 To know a lot of women feel like that. 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:35.960 I one hundred percent imagine being the first person ever 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:38.479 to not get picked at the end. I definitely felt that. 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:40.360 But it's important for you to know that you are 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:44.160 one hundred percent enough. You just haven't met you penguin yet, 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:46.160 And that's what it is. It's it's you are enough, 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:49.000 and you're enough for a million people out there. Unfortunately 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:52.280 you haven't met that matching soul yet. But so yeah, 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:53.960 it's really important to know that that it's not it's 1:10:53.960 --> 1:10:57.080 not you personally, and it's just your stars were almost 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.800 aligned and they will one day. But this just this 1:10:59.880 --> 1:11:01.200 is wasn't in unfortunately, hope. 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:04.160 So and also it's just like it's a breakup on steroids. 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.360 It's a breakup that happens on national TV, and you know, 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:10.519 it's just something that you go through the breakup once 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:12.559 when it actually happens in real life and then I 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:14.640 think you all over again. Yeah, you go through it 1:11:14.640 --> 1:11:16.120 a second time when you have to watch it back 1:11:16.160 --> 1:11:19.040 on TV because you see so much more of the 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:22.000 story the second time around, because obviously you don't see 1:11:22.000 --> 1:11:24.840 what's happening with everybody else. So I think that there's 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:28.479 closure in that, but there's also another another heartbreak in 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:30.479 that as well. Yeah, And I think as well though, 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.400 like that's the thing, like, yes, it broke my heart, 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:34.519 but watching it back, I'm like, I want to find 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:36.639 someone that wants to be with me and knows they 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:38.600 want to be with me. I don't. I'm sick of 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:40.800 being with these people that give me all the reassurance 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:43.200 up until the last minute, and they're like, oh, psych. 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:44.960 Have you spoken to Lockie since, Like did he ever 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:46.639 contact you after even just to check in? 1:11:46.800 --> 1:11:49.559 Or no, I don't know. I sent him a message. 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:53.000 I haven't told anyone that, But yeah, we got breakthrough. 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:56.840 We got I did send him a message after, just 1:11:56.880 --> 1:11:58.760 to be like, I mean, I was like two days 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:01.719 after I was dev I was shattered, I was upset, 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:05.240 I was angry, and it was pretty much just which 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:07.000 it was a pretty angry text to be honest, I. 1:12:07.040 --> 1:12:08.080 Was going to say, was it like I love you, 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:09.160 missy or was it like fun? 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:11.840 No, So the first part was like, like, I feel 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:13.599 like I've lost my best friend, not just my boyfriend. 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:16.559 Was a relationship for me. I think something that I 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:18.720 actually read it on somebody who put it on their 1:12:18.760 --> 1:12:21.360 stories and they had kind of encapsulated it really really well. 1:12:21.680 --> 1:12:24.280 And it's this idea that like, it's a very reckless 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:27.840 way to treat someone who you have feelings for, and 1:12:27.920 --> 1:12:31.000 it's very impulsive to tell someone I love you, but 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:33.080 knowing that the next day you have to make a decision, 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:35.320 even if on that day you haven't decided. Let's give 1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.680 Lachlan the benefit of the dart that he didn't know 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:39.800 who he was going to pick. The fact that you 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.200 are reckless in the moment with your words and gives 1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:45.800 so much validation and reassurance to someone only sets the 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:48.200 bar so much higher for that level of heartbreak. It 1:12:48.240 --> 1:12:51.360 only puts them so much further down down that rabbit 1:12:51.400 --> 1:12:53.919 hole of thinking and feeling confident and feeling in directed 1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:56.599 and feeling loved that I think it was a really 1:12:56.640 --> 1:12:58.800 reckless way of going about the finale, and I think 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:01.559 that that's why everyone was so angry, and everyone has 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:05.320 beanned behind you to support you, because it was incredibly 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:08.880 devastating to watch. Yeah, and I'm been like, I've been 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:10.960 so overwhelmed with the love that I've been getting, And 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:14.320 obviously there are still those fair few like messages that 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:16.280 I'm getting that's like, well you deserved it, it's your 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.840 karma for how you treated Arena, and it's like, well, 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:22.920 I'm like, come on, guys, Like it's it's so unnecessary 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:25.840 to be doing that kind of stuff, especially on social media, 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:27.720 when like a couple of weeks ago, it was are 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.840 you Okay? Day, and it's like, well you're so many 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:32.800 people will put on their stories like check if your 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:35.000 friends are okay, but they're very quick to comment on 1:13:35.040 --> 1:13:37.240 someone's photo that they don't know who they are and 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:39.680 judge them off something that happened on TV. So I 1:13:39.720 --> 1:13:41.960 think for me, I was just like all the love 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:44.639 has just been like, I'm so grateful for it all. 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:46.479 I mean, social media is a pretty can be a 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:49.559 pretty dark place, and something that I have realized over 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:53.600 the years is that we're very negatively geared. So you 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:57.840 might receive a thousand really nice comments or compliments, or 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:00.479 you know, you might receive twenty thousand likes photo. That's 1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:02.599 twenty thousand people saying I like this, and then you've 1:14:02.600 --> 1:14:05.200 go with their life the one that one nasty comment 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:07.920 really just cuts through and it has so much more 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.000 weight in how you value yourself. And that was something 1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:13.120 that took me a really long time after the show 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:16.360 to get over. Remember that you can't even you can't 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:18.639 even put a nice comment on my photo without people 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:21.960 being like how dare you and off like she's one 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:24.680 of my good mates, but also like I who was it? 1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:27.800 Katy Perry, Katie, I've got a really wise quote for you. 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:29.639 From Ka Katy Perry, You've dropped it a few times. 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:32.400 I love it. Though, Katy Perry once said, you know, 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:35.120 there's two worlds. There's the real world and there's a 1:14:35.160 --> 1:14:38.160 social media world. And social media world is really fucked 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:40.000 and the real world is really great, and you just 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:41.960 have to choose which world you want to live in. So, 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:44.040 if you're going to get your validation from the things 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:47.120 that people who you don't know say to you online, yeah, 1:14:47.200 --> 1:14:51.320 then your your validation then becomes so instable. Whereas if 1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.040 you live your life with the people who love you 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:55.880 and what you know is true and you know like 1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:58.479 the person who you are, yeah, then I think that 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:00.439 that's where you find your happiness, and you dip into 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:01.960 this one every so often whatever you want to. 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:04.160 Yeah, I just so you know it will it gets better. 1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:08.639 Yeah. So before we jump into putting the rumors to rest, 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:11.839 I want to ask you a couple of quick questions. Yeah, 1:15:12.040 --> 1:15:15.280 are you still in love with Locke? No, I'm not 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:19.840 in love with Locke. Obviously, I there a moment, like, 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:22.280 for example, I thought Friday, I was like, I'm fine, 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:25.080 I'm fine, I'm fine, got to dinner with girlfriends, had 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:28.080 champagne and three minutes later, I was bullwing my eyes up, 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:30.160 but I was like, I don't understand because I'm not 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:32.600 in love with him any anymore. I think I just 1:15:32.800 --> 1:15:36.120 genuinely thought he loved me, like I genuinely thought he 1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:37.680 was in love with me. And I think watching it 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:40.840 back was a lot. It still hurts, obviously, because it's 1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:43.360 just happened. This is my Literally, it's the first Monday 1:15:43.400 --> 1:15:45.400 of the first week. I feel like I'm finally free. 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.800 So no, I'm not in love with him anymore. But 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:52.280 like you know, it's not like I wish I could 1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:54.320 just like erase it from my memory and wish it 1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:55.920 never happened. But that's just not going to happen. 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:57.840 So and so, what do you think is the main 1:15:57.840 --> 1:15:58.880 thing that you've taken away? 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:01.560 Like, what have you learned from experience? I think ultimately, 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:07.120 trust no one never trust a man again. No. I 1:16:07.160 --> 1:16:10.200 think ultimately I just have to. I think I need 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:12.080 to trust my instinct a little bit more, you know, 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.920 And just like when I have that gut instinct that's 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:17.160 telling me something's not right, I need to believe it. 1:16:17.240 --> 1:16:20.360 And I think I've also learned that. I like, at 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:22.200 the end of the day, I do want someone that 1:16:22.800 --> 1:16:24.679 wants to one hundred percent be with me and isn't 1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:27.360 going to question that. And I think in the past, 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:30.240 like you, you'd hear that and you'd think, like, isn't 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:33.240 that pretty obvious? But no, I think it's like for me, 1:16:33.320 --> 1:16:36.160 it's even more just solidified now. I'm just like, I'm 1:16:36.200 --> 1:16:38.679 not going to take shit when people are just giving 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:40.680 me reassurance if their actions don't match up. 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:42.400 So I would have. 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:44.480 Thought the hardest part would be hearing that your stepdad's 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:45.320 hotter than the Bachelor. 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:51.919 Oh my god, it's so gross. Okay, well, let's finally, 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:54.040 before we do a round up and a wrap up, 1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:56.559 let's put some of the big rumors to rest that 1:16:56.600 --> 1:16:59.000 have been circulating. I'm going to kick this one. How 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:03.200 long do you have We'll just media can be harsh 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:05.479 and fierce, and we know it. We've been at the 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:07.760 receiving end of a lot of shit rumors from time 1:17:07.760 --> 1:17:10.559 to time. But I do feel like there's been a 1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:13.679 lot that's been circulating around you during filming, well, sorry, 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.240 during when the show was on air. So number one, 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:22.280 did you know Locky before filming? No? No, I like, unfortunately, sorry, Lockie, 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:24.200 this obviously isn't going to help his ego. But I 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:27.720 had no idea who he was. Never watched Survivor, never 1:17:27.760 --> 1:17:30.720 heard of him, never nothing, So I actually didn't know 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:31.400 who he was either. 1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:32.719 I don't know who Nick was either. 1:17:32.840 --> 1:17:35.439 I remember coming out of the limo and I was like, oh, yeah, tall, 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:37.519 dark handserman. I was like, a bit old, isn't he 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:43.840 because he's older, Like he's not like young, And I 1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:47.360 remember getting I should have said that. 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:49.479 I could have a limo because I've never seen Nick never. 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:51.720 I've never watched him of football in my life. Yeah, 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.000 I don't even know what kind he plays. I remember 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:57.280 looking at him and being like, who is this guy 1:17:57.560 --> 1:17:59.280 with a cauliflower on his head? 1:17:59.320 --> 1:18:01.599 Because he's I thought he looked like a cauliflower from 1:18:01.600 --> 1:18:01.960 and he said. 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:03.519 I was like, I was like, what is that? 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:05.080 Is that a giant coulieflower man? 1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:09.000 Confused? Okay, can we stop shaming what sorry look like? 1:18:09.360 --> 1:18:10.080 For one second? 1:18:10.240 --> 1:18:12.559 I then thought he was so hot, But yeah, I 1:18:12.600 --> 1:18:13.280 didn't know him, so I. 1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:15.280 Want to do on that. But like, let's just like 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:18.479 reiterate not that old is a bad thing. I'm here 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:21.200 for a silver fox, Like, oh, like, look at that 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:24.240 he's a man like he was more like like an 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.120 actual man like that guy's gonna get some math rider 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:29.080 spending to kiss me. Yeah, I hope you got a 1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:32.320 good back boy. All right. Question number two, are you 1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:37.760 a paid actress? Have you ever acted before? Yeah? No, 1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:40.640 I have never tried to act. I've never done an 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:44.519 acting lesson. I've never been paid to. Like, I like, 1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:47.080 can't you tell when people are like, oh, she's obviously 1:18:47.120 --> 1:18:50.760 really bad at acting? Yeah, because I'm not acting. Who 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:54.240 can't wait to see you on neighbors? He was, God, Yes, sorry, 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:58.200 apparently I want to follow in San Frost's footsteps. Doesn't 1:18:58.280 --> 1:18:59.360 she's very successful? 1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:02.240 But also no, I did read though that you you're 1:19:02.280 --> 1:19:04.759 apparently and this is what I'm reading. Guys, your old 1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:06.640 agent came out saying you were. He was trying to 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:08.280 get you to La. You moved to La to act. 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.400 I had no idea who that guy is, Like, I 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:12.640 genuinely I had to look into him because I was like, 1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:14.599 who the hell is mic? Like, I never had a 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:18.759 male manager in my life. Turns out he's the angry 1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:21.600 ex of my the girl that used to manage me 1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:24.080 on my social media a couple of years ago I've 1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:27.400 only ever had one manager, and her name was Alice, 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:29.880 and she was like helping me with like getting jobs 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:31.920 on my social media at one point, because I am 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:33.960 a freelance creative, so a lot of what I do 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:38.040 is create photos and content for this is a fancy 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:44.959 word for doing influence. Okay, guys, I've been an influencer 1:19:45.000 --> 1:19:45.720 for like four years. 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:46.240 Don't worry. 1:19:46.320 --> 1:19:49.360 We do some influencing stuff as well. Are you not influence? 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:49.640 No? 1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:54.200 But like, basically I called her and I was like, 1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:58.439 who is this guy? Because when I googled him, she 1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:02.280 came up, So that's how I made the connection. Basically, 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:05.439 she was like, he's my ex and I broke up 1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:07.439 with him like a little while ago, and he's just 1:20:07.520 --> 1:20:10.639 sour and like She's like, I literally don't know where 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:12.519 he's getting any of this stuff from because I never 1:20:12.520 --> 1:20:16.160 moved to La. I'd actually dropped her like probably about 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:18.559 a year and a half to two years before that, 1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:20.720 and I think even in his quote or whatever, he 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:23.519 was like, oh, yeah, no, she's been she's still been 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:25.280 getting work with us this year, and I'm like, what 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.240 who are you? Like, I mean, they all come out 1:20:28.240 --> 1:20:31.519 of the woodwork, don't They were there three seconds of fame. Okay, 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:33.679 So after you moved to La to pursue your acting career, 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:38.280 is that where you were dating Cody Simpson. Yeah, because 1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:42.160 that's the other rumor honestly, so I know, I okay 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:46.200 might have had a thing with Cody. Like one night, long, long, 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:49.000 long time ago. I was at a bar for Valentine's 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:50.960 Day because my ex had just recently broken up with me, 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:53.000 and my girlfriends were like, that's it, It's Valentine's Day. 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:55.599 We're going out for a few drinks. And this really 1:20:55.640 --> 1:21:00.320 cute blonde brought me a rose. Don't even yet it 1:21:00.439 --> 1:21:04.720 was I have a thing with roses. They just keep 1:21:04.800 --> 1:21:07.320 coming up in my life. So yeah, he bought me 1:21:07.360 --> 1:21:10.320 a rose and then slow dance with me around Mississippi 1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:13.920 and Double Bay and it was just like once. It 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.559 was like one of those things where you're like, this 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:17.439 is really cute and I was like, who is this guy? 1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:20.719 And then that was literally we ended up like staying 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:22.720 like we were. Literally that was it. It was just 1:21:22.720 --> 1:21:23.360 that one night. 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:27.680 So he had a sleepover, slumber fighting pillow fight. 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:32.960 We had an adult cuttle pillow fight. No, but it 1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:37.680 was literally that was it. And then this whole thing 1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:40.439 about knowing each other having a fling in La, and 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:42.519 I'm like, I've been to La once for a week. 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:44.320 Do you guys follow each other on Instagram? 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:49.080 No? So maybe he's broken up with Miley? Maybebe Do 1:21:49.120 --> 1:21:51.640 you have a contract with Channel ten that guaranteed you 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.920 to the final two? No? I'm gonna call bullshit on 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:56.960 this one as well, because, like I know obviously Britain, 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.799 I know how contracts work with like literal tires and everything. 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:03.320 They're never going to guarantee someone to the final two 1:22:03.360 --> 1:22:06.519 who has no acting experience. And can I just say 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:09.840 I literally can't win because the first two weeks of 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:14.919 the show coming out, apparently I had a pre organized 1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:17.559 pact with Lockie and I had a contract that meant 1:22:17.600 --> 1:22:19.240 I was going to be with him until the end, 1:22:19.280 --> 1:22:21.160 and one of the girls in the house apparently said 1:22:21.160 --> 1:22:23.880 that I told everyone that didn't happen, But now the 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:25.840 end of it, I've got a contract that says a 1:22:25.920 --> 1:22:27.720 runner up. So I can't win either way. 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:28.720 Oh no, You'll never win. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:32.600 Literally literally got way too soona, Wow, Okay, sorry, I 1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:36.640 thought you have some solo that wound guys. It was 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:40.920 funny in my head. Are you back on Tinder. No, 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:44.599 I've actually never had Tinder. I've never had Tinder. You haven't. 1:22:44.800 --> 1:22:45.719 I've never had bumble. 1:22:46.320 --> 1:22:49.799 It's the greatest experience of your life, that bumble. 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:53.320 I am No, I did. I've been told about that 1:22:53.400 --> 1:22:56.639 rumor this morning, and I know not me so sorry 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:59.120 if my fake Tinder has been talking to anyone. 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:02.040 But you'll get heaps of fake profiles. My fake Tinder 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:04.799 talks to everyone they go to town, So yeah. 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:05.240 You'll get that. 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:09.439 Hopefully she's doing it right for herself at least. So 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:11.639 I have a fake Tinder profile. Her name is MICHAELA. 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:14.960 But it's all my photos, and Mikayla likes jazz, burl s, 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:19.040 chancing and anal sex. Hell yeah, she would be killing 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:23.160 it on there. Yes, she sounds like a good time. Well. 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.040 The last question we want to know is we've seen 1:23:25.040 --> 1:23:29.040 some photos recently with a lovely young man named Nathan. 1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:31.400 No, I don't know if this is right. Favreau favo. 1:23:33.560 --> 1:23:36.320 He's also a bachelor boy. He's expatchy. We've seen some 1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:38.280 picks attractive man. 1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:42.120 Are you seeing him dating him? Sleepover in with. 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:48.720 Him, adult cuddles. No, we aren't dating. We're not in 1:23:48.720 --> 1:23:55.639 a relationship. But yeah he is. She's flushy. You can 1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:57.680 phone a friend and get out of this one if you. 1:23:57.640 --> 1:23:59.720 Want, Dude, don't give her an out. There is no 1:23:59.720 --> 1:24:00.320 phone friend. 1:24:01.760 --> 1:24:03.960 She's like Laura and you just throw me into the 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:09.000 fucking bus. No. Look, I think I'm just like I'm 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:11.640 open to things happening. But he has been such a 1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:14.240 good egg. He's a sweetheart. He's been helping me through 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:18.160 a lot of shit the last couple months. So yeah, no, 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:22.720 we aren't in a relationship. Shut up, Brittany. I'm just 1:24:22.760 --> 1:24:25.320 watching you squirm and I'm like I jump in. I'm like, 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:27.559 I haven't moved this whole time, and now I'm like 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:30.120 all of a sudden, like Brittany's just jealous because she's 1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:31.120 not getting any at the moment. 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:33.479 Don't worry we talk about someone going too far. 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:38.960 Orbella on that. You have literally answered every single question 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:41.040 that we have for you. Unless there's anything else that 1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:43.799 you want to drop a bomb on us with no nothing, 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:47.800 I mean until something else comes out tomorrow, there could 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:49.559 be another room you can come on to defunk it. 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:51.519 But thank you so much, thank you so much for 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:55.200 coming for being your authentic and wonderful self and sharing 1:24:55.560 --> 1:24:59.040 the absolutely crazy experience that it is being on the Batch. 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:02.599 And also congratulations for like keeping your shit together after 1:25:02.800 --> 1:25:05.120 what was a very brutal back break, at least in 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:07.920 public anyway, Have I had my shit together? I think 1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:11.240 you've done really well considering considering the rollercoaster that is 1:25:11.280 --> 1:25:14.040 being on the Bachelor. Thank you for like having me 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:16.000 on and just like being able to let me chat 1:25:16.040 --> 1:25:18.880 and say what has actually been happening through this whole 1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:21.000 wicked experience. So thank you. 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:29.800 Okay, so fella. To wrap it up, we always do 1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:30.519 a suck and suite. 1:25:30.680 --> 1:25:33.280 We talk about the highlights and the low lights for 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:36.000 the week. It can be the craziest, biggest thing. I 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:36.599 hope it's not yours. 1:25:36.600 --> 1:25:37.920 Just something to do with a bachelor, because that's a 1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.080 pretty big thing, but it can be ridiculous too. 1:25:40.200 --> 1:25:41.559 So Laura, do you want to start it? 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:43.559 I was gonna say, I hope nothing worse has happened 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:46.120 in your week. You're like, actually, I have something that 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:48.840 was way worse than being done on reality TV. I'd 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:51.240 be like, okay, you need to come. Have you not 1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:54.400 seen the beach shots of me? Like the paparazzi's been 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:57.519 following me around and they choose the worst top photo. Ah, 1:25:57.640 --> 1:26:00.720 but get used to it. There's some paparaz shots of 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:03.760 me from when I was pregnant with Marli and I 1:26:03.840 --> 1:26:06.519 was wearing a white bikini and I had laid in 1:26:06.640 --> 1:26:10.160 something that was like a bit dirty without realizing, and 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:13.080 so it looks like I have my full pubic hair 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:15.760 on display. Except I don't have pubic care, so it's 1:26:15.760 --> 1:26:17.960 definitely not it. But every single there's like a hundred 1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:22.200 comments on Daily Mail and people like, she really needs 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:23.519 to sort of a gig. 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:26.000 Everyone go google that, please, it's worth it. 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:28.040 Oh my god, I don't want know. Instagram, I don't 1:26:28.040 --> 1:26:30.080 even care. Yes, I've got a full train track of 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:35.320 pubic hair. So anytime you feel bad about your paparazzi shots, 1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:38.080 I'm gonna send you meet. Yeah. So my suck for 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:41.200 the week is that my child is now possessed. I 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:44.040 don't know what's happened. I think I'm attributing it to 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:47.000 daycare and like change of routine, literally suck and sweet. 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:50.120 I talk about Malley's daycare every single week. I'm sure 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.600 they're doing a great job, but she's come home possessed 1:26:53.640 --> 1:26:55.840 and she won't let me put her down, she won't 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:59.160 stop screaming. She had her first full toddler tantrum yesterday 1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:01.639 where she lay on the ground on her back, kicking 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:03.960 and screaming her arms because she couldn't find a puzzle 1:27:04.000 --> 1:27:06.679 piece that she wanted. Yeah, it's like it was intense. 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:08.960 I walked outside. I was like, girlfriend, you need to 1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:12.840 sort your ship and busty, you've got this watcher and 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:14.679 so I took it a daycare this morning at seven 1:27:14.800 --> 1:27:17.280 thirty because I was like, somebody else needs to parent 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:20.840 my child. So that has been my suck and my 1:27:20.960 --> 1:27:24.760 sweep for the week is that on Saturday night, I 1:27:24.800 --> 1:27:27.439 got to go out for dinner for my girlfriend's birthday 1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:32.040 and I escaped. I just escaped. It was so nice. 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:34.240 That sounds really lame, but for any mum's out there 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:35.920 will know what a big deal that is. I got 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:38.719 to get away from Matt that come to get away 1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:41.400 from Malie, and I went out and had a really 1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:43.880 beautiful dinner. So that was my that's my sweet. You 1:27:43.960 --> 1:27:46.000 deserve a one, Yes I do, but I didn't have one. 1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:48.120 But I did deserve one, Thank god, you deserve one. 1:27:48.120 --> 1:27:50.240 In three months, three and a half months and a 1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:52.559 half months. This baby's coming so soon. It's actually scares 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:54.920 the pants off me. All right, Grinnie, what is your suck? 1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:55.679 My suck? 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:58.600 Is that For some weird reason this weekend, I've had 1:27:58.680 --> 1:28:01.320 chronic fatigue. Came out of no hit me like a bus, 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:03.280 and I couldn't even walk in the door. I have 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:04.960 slept all day and I can't even sleep in the day. 1:28:05.040 --> 1:28:07.200 I'm just gonna say, we sound very dramatic on this. 1:28:07.479 --> 1:28:10.840 I had chronic fatigue diagnosed. She was tired. 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:13.320 Okay, So I'm actually diagnosed with something called neutropenia, which 1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:15.120 is where you don't have enough white blood cells aka 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:16.639 meaning you can't fight an infection. 1:28:16.800 --> 1:28:18.040 So it gives me chronic fatigue. 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:21.080 So when my white blood cells drop, you physically couldn't 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:22.479 give me million dollars to keep my eyes open. 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:24.519 So that's what it is. So lowld, joke's on you, 1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:31.240 sweet fucking mic Drop. 1:28:31.400 --> 1:28:32.920 I love how funny you think you are. 1:28:35.920 --> 1:28:38.559 My sweet would probably be. I just came over this 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:40.879 morning and Laura gave me a log. 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.639 Of that sound is so bros. Laura gave me a. 1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:44.920 Log of my favorite girl. 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:46.840 Where do I get one of those? 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.760 A lot of my favorite cookie does from Bennett Street Dairy. 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:53.280 It's like this famous cookie dough. All right, ella, you 1:28:53.280 --> 1:28:55.080 may have one too. I've got two logs in the freezer. 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:57.840 Oh my god, she's logged up. She's long, she's logged up. 1:28:58.000 --> 1:29:00.040 So that was my sweet. And that hasn't even happened yet, Like, 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:01.840 I haven't even eaten it. Fella, what is your son 1:29:02.720 --> 1:29:07.840 just being dumped on TV? Yes, to like relive being dumb, 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:13.679 you're basically being dumped twice. But I mean, aside from 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:15.559 being dumped on TV, I mean. 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:16.479 I feel like that wins. 1:29:16.439 --> 1:29:19.759 So does that win? Yeah? Okay? What was your sweet 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:22.559 for the week? For someone who's had so many lows? 1:29:23.320 --> 1:29:25.120 What is it like now that you finally have your 1:29:25.120 --> 1:29:30.479 life back? Honestly, I feel invigorated. But Friday night, I 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:32.559 guess Friday night would have to be my sweet because 1:29:32.600 --> 1:29:34.920 I went out to a restaurant and just so happened 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:38.240 that the owner of the restaurant recognized and had actually 1:29:38.240 --> 1:29:40.479 watched me getting my heart broken on TV. So he 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.000 gave us a really nice bottle of champagne and a 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:48.280 couple of shots, and yeah, it was yeah. And then 1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:49.960 he also gave me a really bad hangover the next day, 1:29:50.000 --> 1:29:52.040 but don't hold it against him. Yeah, but it was 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:54.080 so sweet because he was just like, you know, I 1:29:54.240 --> 1:29:56.599 just he was like, I'm sure you get this a lot, 1:29:56.680 --> 1:29:58.880 but like, you know, I'm assuming this is your first 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:00.720 night out and blah blah bla. And I was like, 1:30:00.760 --> 1:30:03.400 that's really sweet because he was like, you know, he 1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:05.519 was he was like, I'm Greek and my son, my 1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:09.160 son is single, and I was like classic Greek. But 1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:10.920 it was really it was. It was one of those 1:30:10.960 --> 1:30:12.920 moments where I was like, Okay, like it's not all bad, 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:15.080 like it's you know, it's agrateful. 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:16.080 Only get better from here. 1:30:16.240 --> 1:30:19.880 Yeah, it's been really nice. So yeah, but I mean, 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:22.240 if you ask me what my sweet is later this week, 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:25.040 i'd have to say coming on Life on Cut. Yeah. 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:28.880 We didn't even get her to say that, of course, 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.400 it is, of course, Well thanks so much getting cookie 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:32.840 dough logs. Yeah, yeah, don't worry. 1:30:32.840 --> 1:30:33.280 I bribed. 1:30:33.320 --> 1:30:35.479 I bribed both of them with cookie dough logs. Coom 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.600 do logs with cookie dough with a log with a 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:42.720 log not a man anyway, Fella, thank you so much 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:45.000 for coming on the show. We love you. We're so 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:47.120 happy that you are free. I mean, I wish I 1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:49.479 could say that we're so happy that you're happy in love, 1:30:49.520 --> 1:30:51.479 but we're just happy that you're free and that you're 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:53.479 able to now like live your life in a very 1:30:53.479 --> 1:30:57.200 authentic way and you can talk about everything and just 1:30:57.360 --> 1:30:59.960 can be you again, which is something that I know 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:02.720 you really you really missed for that period when you 1:31:02.760 --> 1:31:06.519 are in still yeah, furgetry a feeling. Well, guys, thank 1:31:06.520 --> 1:31:09.280 you so much for listening to another episode of Life Uncut. 1:31:09.400 --> 1:31:11.920 And if you haven't joined up to the Facebook page, 1:31:11.960 --> 1:31:14.280 then you know the drill. 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