Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut,
Speaker 1: and we have a really exciting episode for you today
Speaker 1: because we have a very special guest on and for
Speaker 1: everybody who has watched The Bachelor, I reckon you're going
Speaker 1: to be pretty stoved with this one. We have Bella
Speaker 1: on the show today and we're going to get into
Speaker 1: that in a little bit. But first, Brittany, how's your
Speaker 1: week been?
Speaker 2: Why do you always get this really sexual tone in
Speaker 2: your voice?
Speaker 1: It's a new thing I'm trying out. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's on not working.
Speaker 1: You're not doing for me yet. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to be sexy anymore. Like Matt comes home and I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I just take my pants off? What do I do?
Speaker 1: How do I flir? How do I mean?
Speaker 3: You've been to in a few years? I feel like
Speaker 3: you do? Just take your pants off now?
Speaker 1: Right? We've got to wait until one pm on a
Speaker 1: Saturday when Mally's having a nap. It's not whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to have sex with me? It
Speaker 1: is not one pm on Saturday. That is our sex time,
Speaker 1: and that is it. Put my pants back on, please
Speaker 1: now immediately.
Speaker 3: No, my week's good, same old, same old.
Speaker 2: I didn't get to watch every episode of the Bachelor
Speaker 2: of this season because I did a lot of night shifts,
Speaker 2: meaning I just couldn't watch them, but I did really
Speaker 2: get into it towards the end. I did watch the finale,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm so excited to have the guest
Speaker 2: on today, have Bella and chat to Beller about everything
Speaker 2: other than that.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I had a.
Speaker 1: Super uneventful week.
Speaker 2: But Laura, I don't know if you want to talk
Speaker 2: about it, but you did message me something that got me.
Speaker 1: A little bit worried. Oh well, okay, I didn't realize
Speaker 1: we're going to go there, but I'll go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm totally fine. This is not as dramatic
Speaker 1: as what it sounds by any means. I've just been
Speaker 1: super busy recently with work and stuff and then obviously pregnant,
Speaker 1: and how I made the joke the other week about
Speaker 1: how I keep forgetting that I'm pregnant. I kind of
Speaker 1: just forgot to eat the other day, like it was
Speaker 1: like midday and I hadn't really eaten anything. I had
Speaker 1: like a cup of coffee, and then I was in
Speaker 1: the midst of serving a customer at work. So I'm
Speaker 1: standing there at work and I'm I'm trying to sell
Speaker 1: this guy an engagement ring, and I could feel this
Speaker 1: like rising feeling of feeling a bit sick. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, something's going on anyway, still trying to chat
Speaker 1: to this guy. And then the rising feeling got worse
Speaker 1: and worse and worse, and then I just plucked down.
Speaker 3: I'm like a full on faint.
Speaker 1: Didn't hit the floor, like I didn't pass out, but
Speaker 1: I like down on my knees, down on my hands.
Speaker 1: And then this poor guy who'd come in to buy
Speaker 1: his girlfriend a ring had to help me up call.
Speaker 1: It was very dramatic. So this was my wake up
Speaker 1: call that I need to slow down and take a
Speaker 1: bit better care of myself because I am actually pregnant
Speaker 1: and I need to stop pretending like I'm not.
Speaker 2: When you told me, you messaged me and told me
Speaker 2: and I had this, I felt bad. My immediate reaction
Speaker 2: I was just like I didn't I didn't even think.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you okay?
Speaker 3: I was like, Laura, you're not looking after yourself enough.
Speaker 3: You've got to start to prioritize your I've got to
Speaker 3: eat more, drink more water. And then I realized how
Speaker 3: gressive I came in and I was like, but I.
Speaker 1: Hope you're okay.
Speaker 3: Do you need me to bring you anything? I was
Speaker 3: just like the protective mom.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was my week. That was a weird thing
Speaker 1: that happened. I'm fine now, but getting into a couple
Speaker 1: of things that we want to talk about before we
Speaker 1: get into the chat with Bella today, and that is
Speaker 1: that we did put it out on last week's episode,
Speaker 1: a very unusual name. It was on the Ask gun
Speaker 1: Cut episode, but it was a very unusual name that
Speaker 1: a guy had been calling his girlfriend's vagina, which was dessert,
Speaker 1: his dessert, his dessert. So he put it out on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and we asked you, our wonderful listeners and our wonderful
Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook community, what are some of the weird
Speaker 1: names that your partner or ex partners have called your
Speaker 1: vagina for? It hasn't read them yet, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to read a few of my favorites.
Speaker 3: Can you rapid fire them?
Speaker 1: Burn to start with a couple that really really got
Speaker 1: my juices going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not even punny, it's just rare.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to say that I didn't even mean
Speaker 1: that really just got me excited.
Speaker 3: Just stop, quit while your head.
Speaker 1: Give me the name. Okay, my vertical smile, my honeypot,
Speaker 1: my pink orchid, My meat curtains has a slug. Imagine
Speaker 1: being a girl and having a guy I call your
Speaker 1: vagina a slug. No meat curtains, No, I've heard that
Speaker 1: one before. Okay, what about finding Nemo because this lady
Speaker 1: says that one of her flaps are longer than the other,
Speaker 1: and Nemo has a short fin. This guy, this guy
Speaker 1: named his girlfriend's vagina Sharon. One of my absolute favorites
Speaker 1: and a true highlight was Gateway to your Guts.
Speaker 2: Okay, I am so perplexed how anyone thinks that calling
Speaker 2: a woman when you're in the moon in the moment,
Speaker 2: when you're saying, hey, show me your meat flaps, how
Speaker 2: they think that that's going to turn someone on?
Speaker 1: Hey, baby, show me the gateway to your guts.
Speaker 2: What's in your guts? Let me check it out? Like,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with the world? What is actually wrong with people?
Speaker 1: This other girl's name for her vagina is Jerry, which,
Speaker 1: you know what, fine, It's kind of like naming a
Speaker 1: dog David like eving it a real human name.
Speaker 3: She named her own vagina.
Speaker 1: Well I know, she just said, me and my boyfriend
Speaker 1: call my vagina Jerry.
Speaker 3: No sorry, moodkiller.
Speaker 1: Next, Quinn's pace, a pink star burst.
Speaker 3: A mini moo.
Speaker 1: This one is Swamp and Shrek's voice, Swamp spicy, a
Speaker 1: poon tang like a bin tang, bit different, and Betty.
Speaker 1: That's all I got. There's way more, but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna wrap it here because guys, this is getting out
Speaker 1: of What about a guava or a ham wallet, just
Speaker 1: to really round it out, do you know what? Ma Hey,
Speaker 1: all right, this was This.
Speaker 3: Was definitely eye opening.
Speaker 1: My favorite.
Speaker 2: It's definitely gonna be the Finding Nemo because he's one
Speaker 2: fin shorter than an other.
Speaker 3: Like that's it's actually pretty cue.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cute. That was That was a's a weird turn.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we do want to keep our intro pretty
Speaker 2: short today. We all know that sometimes Laura and I
Speaker 2: can get carried away without talking, but we do have
Speaker 2: this really great, beautiful, in depth chat with Bella coming up,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna jump straight into accidentally unfiltereds now. First up,
Speaker 2: So Hubby and I were having sex on a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Things got a little bit rowdy and we ended up
Speaker 2: doing a doggie style. Then we were interrupted by our
Speaker 2: four year old daughter saying, what are you guys doing
Speaker 2: while staring at us in full doggie style sex position naked.
Speaker 2: My husband replied and said to her, I'm just giving
Speaker 2: mommy a massage, sweetie. We didn't hear anything about it
Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. Then the next morning,
Speaker 2: hubby had gone to work and my daughter jumped into
Speaker 2: bed with me for a cuddle. She then said, Mummy,
Speaker 2: roll over and play that game that you were playing
Speaker 2: with Papa yesterday. Needless to say, I lost my shit
Speaker 2: laughing and said, no, darling, that's not a game we
Speaker 2: can play.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, this is therapy.
Speaker 1: This is years of therapy and trauma for your child
Speaker 1: that your kid's gonna turn out really funny and with
Speaker 1: a great sense of humor. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: so funny. It's just like, have you ever walked on
Speaker 1: your parents having sex?
Speaker 2: Okay, so my parents always tell this story that I
Speaker 2: used to sleep walk really badly when I was little,
Speaker 2: and I would sleep talk as well. So there's this
Speaker 2: one story that Mum and Dad say sorry, Mom and Dad,
Speaker 2: you're gonna kill me, probably that I'm telling this on
Speaker 2: the podcast. They were like, we never did this. They
Speaker 2: had four little kids, right, they had four kids under sick.
Speaker 3: When they had sex.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, on this Sunday afternoon at you
Speaker 1: structured time and on this day of the month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one pm Saturday. So one night they were.
Speaker 2: Like, we don't know why this one night we decided
Speaker 2: to have sex on the lounge. All the kids, like,
Speaker 2: all the kids were in bed asleep, so they were like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, let's just like get rowdy.
Speaker 3: So they were on the lounge. Mum was on top
Speaker 3: of Dad like they're young, right, I'm so sorry mum.
Speaker 1: Dad.
Speaker 2: I was on top of that, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Dad says, I just froze your mum.
Speaker 1: I just stopped her.
Speaker 2: He's like, because you were like this little exorcist child.
Speaker 2: I was just standing there. They didn't know how long
Speaker 2: I was there. I was just standing there looking at them.
Speaker 3: Dad was like, hey, sweetie, what you doing there?
Speaker 2: And I apparently just stared at them, and they had
Speaker 2: this moment of thinking like, oh my god, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to pay for therapy forever. I stared straight at them,
Speaker 2: and they thought I was awake because I was asleep.
Speaker 2: And then all I said was, if Mitchell shoots me,
Speaker 2: am I allowed to shoot him back.
Speaker 3: Mitch is my brother.
Speaker 2: And they looked at each other weird, and they were like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't think your brother would shoot you, sweetheart. And
Speaker 2: I said, but am I allowed if he does, And
Speaker 2: they're like sure, Now go back to bed. Anyway, they
Speaker 2: were like petrified that the next day they didn't if
Speaker 2: I was gonna remember it or what. So they were
Speaker 2: like tiptoeing around asking how I slept, and I remembered nothing.
Speaker 2: I still remember nothing to this day. I just have
Speaker 2: this idea from what they have told me.
Speaker 1: So this is what psychologists called suppressed memories of trauma.
Speaker 1: This is why I'm single, This is why I can't date.
Speaker 1: I blame my mom and dad. I walked in on
Speaker 1: my mom when I was very young, in a sixty niner.
Speaker 1: That was a very confronting situation.
Speaker 3: It's jujits too, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't accidentally unfiltered. One night, when I was
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend and we were at his parents' house,
Speaker 1: we decided to have a late night spa. A few
Speaker 1: lines later, one thing led to another, and well, we
Speaker 1: had sex in the spa. It was when it was
Speaker 1: time to get out that I couldn't find my Batha
Speaker 1: bottoms anywhere. I drunkenly looked everywhere for them, in the spa,
Speaker 1: in the garden. We eventually just gave up, went to bed,
Speaker 1: and I honestly never gave it another thought. Fast forward
Speaker 1: two weeks later and it was my birthday. His dad
Speaker 1: gives me a rap present in front of the whole family.
Speaker 1: I excitedly open it to find my bay the bottoms
Speaker 1: are inside. I sheepishly look up at him and he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I found those in the spa filter. At least
Speaker 1: he has a sense of humor.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got one more. We've really got the parents
Speaker 1: once today, going come at me number three. Okay.
Speaker 2: So, my beautiful mom used to always pester me to
Speaker 2: find out about any guys I will interested in or dating.
Speaker 2: I became really good friends with this guy who was
Speaker 2: a bit older but very lovely and pretty cool. I
Speaker 2: made the mistake of telling my mom his name, but
Speaker 2: I made it very clear we are just friends because
Speaker 2: I know she pesters me about it if I tell
Speaker 2: her anything more anyway, My mom is a shift worker,
Speaker 2: so one night at work at about three am, she
Speaker 2: decided to Facebook store him classic. She didn't think she
Speaker 2: had done anything wrong and thought she'd gotten.
Speaker 1: Away with it.
Speaker 2: However, she actually shared one of his photos from his
Speaker 2: profile to her own timeline, a photo from him at
Speaker 2: Tomorrowland from two years before, with a whole group of
Speaker 2: people from the same town as us, who were all
Speaker 2: tagged in the photo. So they all received a notification
Speaker 2: saying my foremum's name had shared a photo that they
Speaker 2: tagged in two years.
Speaker 3: Ago on her own timeline.
Speaker 1: Ah, I be me.
Speaker 2: She didn't even know she'd done it, and she felt
Speaker 2: horble when I told her, and actually reminds me of
Speaker 2: that time that you did this weird incident where you
Speaker 2: like uploaded your ex's girlfriend's photo to your.
Speaker 3: Timeline or something.
Speaker 1: Do you remember I put.
Speaker 3: Her full name in my status update?
Speaker 1: Is what I did? But do you know what We're
Speaker 1: actually going to do? An episode coming up on jealousy
Speaker 1: and something that's called retroactive jealousy, which one of our
Speaker 1: awesome Facebook community members commented on, and it really got
Speaker 1: us thinking about it. So that's going to be a
Speaker 1: future podcast topic right there, So I think we'll leave
Speaker 1: that one. But anyway, guys, we just wanted to make
Speaker 1: today's intro short, sharp and a little bit naughty, and
Speaker 1: we're going to get into interviewing bellas you watched the show.
Speaker 1: If you watched the final of Bachelor, I genuinely think
Speaker 1: that this finale, I mean, Britt, you might tell me
Speaker 1: that I'm wrong, but I think that this finale was
Speaker 1: one of the most heartbreaking finales that we have ever seen.
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because Lockie went so
Speaker 1: far telling both the girls that he was in love
Speaker 1: with them and really building that, building the intensity, really
Speaker 1: making them feel reassured, really making them feel loved, only
Speaker 1: to the very next day turn around and say I
Speaker 1: can't be with you anymore. Bella and I think collectively
Speaker 1: Australia's heart absolutely shattered when she had her heart broken,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to speak to Bella about what her
Speaker 1: experience was like on the show. I really also wanted
Speaker 1: to uncover what this whole lockdown period was like for them,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a very different experience to what
Speaker 1: both Britt and I had. I mean, we never had this,
Speaker 1: they had their phones back, they were in love in lockdown,
Speaker 1: but they were not being supervised. So what does the
Speaker 1: bachelor look like when there isn't the supervision of producers
Speaker 1: and cameramen and Soundi's and Bella was really really honest
Speaker 1: and she shared a lot of the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of the past six months of what happened between her
Speaker 1: and Luckey, of the extent of their relationship, and also
Speaker 1: of the extent of the hurt that she's felt as
Speaker 1: a result of being publicly dumped on national TV. I'm
Speaker 1: really excited for this chat. I think it's a really
Speaker 1: beautiful and really honest conversation, and I really hope that
Speaker 1: you guys enjoy it just as much as we did
Speaker 1: recording it.
Speaker 3: All I want to add into that is maybe I
Speaker 3: am biased.
Speaker 1: Yes, time my heartbreak was pretty.
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking, but let's just like brush over that. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine what it would have been like to have been
Speaker 2: told that the bachelor loves you, that he wants to
Speaker 2: spend a life with you, that you're the one, and
Speaker 2: having spent all this time off camera with him, Like
Speaker 2: I just I can never fathom that because, like you
Speaker 2: just said, we didn't have that chance to form any
Speaker 2: sort of off camera intimacy, and then to be told
Speaker 2: at the end twenty four hours later, not even twelve
Speaker 2: hours later, that like, oh, I know yesterday I said this,
Speaker 2: but psych it's not you. Obviously I felt that in
Speaker 2: a different way because I mean, you guys never saw it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was made to feel like it was
Speaker 2: me on my show, and twelve hours later it wasn't
Speaker 2: say and I know exactly everything Bella said. I know
Speaker 2: the exact timeline because we are with them on the date,
Speaker 2: as you know, Laura at like midnight, one am, two am,
Speaker 2: and then at seven am you feel in the finale,
Speaker 2: so the night before, so I feel it. But guys,
Speaker 2: it was a really interesting chat. We got something that's
Speaker 2: never happened on The Bachelor before.
Speaker 1: And one thing that I think is really important for
Speaker 1: us to just touch on because we actually didn't break
Speaker 1: down the timeline when we were talking to Bella. We
Speaker 1: kind of got caught up in the conversation around what
Speaker 1: was happening that we didn't really break down exactly the
Speaker 1: moments of like I love you and when the breakup
Speaker 1: and the rejection happened. So just so that you guys
Speaker 1: are all aware and we're all on the same page
Speaker 1: of getting into this conversation. When Bella had her final
Speaker 1: date with Lockie, that was literally twelve hours before he
Speaker 1: then turned around and said I don't want to be
Speaker 1: with you anymore. So he had said I love you,
Speaker 1: and twelve hours later had said I don't want to
Speaker 1: be with you. And I think that that's something that
Speaker 1: we really need to keep perspective on with this. The
Speaker 1: other thing as well is that normally during filming, there
Speaker 1: is a three month gap between when filming ends and
Speaker 1: when the show is on TV. Unfortunately, for this season,
Speaker 1: that gap was very very short. It was only six
Speaker 1: weeks between when filming ended and when the show was
Speaker 1: on TV, and that was due to this extended filming
Speaker 1: schedule around Love and Lockdown, you know, the parameters that
Speaker 1: were put in place because of COVID. So I think
Speaker 1: those timeframes really changed the dynamic. It also really intensifies
Speaker 1: the hurt. And what it also means is that instead
Speaker 1: of filming for three months, this season actually filmed for
Speaker 1: six months. So the girls in this season filmed a
Speaker 1: much stronger and more intense bond than I think even
Speaker 1: yourself or I could have formed, and like, I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine what it would be like to have dated
Speaker 1: Matt for six months for him to then turn around
Speaker 1: and say it's not you at the end, and.
Speaker 2: To be dating off camera, to be able to call
Speaker 2: each other, skype each other, whatever you.
Speaker 1: Want to do, like all the things they were doing. Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we literally whatever bond you and I formed
Speaker 2: with our respective partners, LOLd to that whatever bond we formed,
Speaker 2: it has nothing on the bond that.
Speaker 1: Would have been formed in this period. Before we do
Speaker 1: get into the conversation with Bella, we also want to say, like,
Speaker 1: we know that there is a beautiful love story that's
Speaker 1: come out of this season, and we are genuinely so
Speaker 1: happy for Lockie and Arena, and we hope that they
Speaker 1: have all the babies and we hope that they stay
Speaker 1: together and are super happy because we all understand how
Speaker 1: stressful this period of time can be. But there has
Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation around their relationship and from
Speaker 1: their perspective so far, but I haven't really heard a
Speaker 1: lot from Bella's side of the story, and so we
Speaker 1: wanted to unpack what happened because there absolutely is more
Speaker 1: to the story than what we saw on the TV.
Speaker 2: I think for me, I can say that this without bias.
Speaker 2: I don't know either of the girls. I knowing like
Speaker 2: once you go through the process, and I know how
Speaker 2: much he's left out. I know how much he's left
Speaker 2: on the cutting room floor. I didn't have a side.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going for anyone, and I can hands down
Speaker 2: say that, and that's not against either girl.
Speaker 3: I was rooting for whoever.
Speaker 1: I was just rooting for the love story.
Speaker 2: And I'm so stoked to see another success story come
Speaker 2: from The Bachelor, because that's what we want from it.
Speaker 2: We want a love story. We want a fairy tale.
Speaker 2: You know we've seen yours. You're popping out, baby number two.
Speaker 2: It's so nice to see you can't hold it back.
Speaker 3: Just just try and stop up.
Speaker 1: I'm always pregnant, but it's so.
Speaker 2: Nice to see Irena and Locke and their happy ending.
Speaker 2: And sure it was a tumultuous ride to get there. Sure,
Speaker 2: Lockie said he loved two people at once, which he
Speaker 2: probably did. I think that that's a thing. I think
Speaker 2: people can be in love with two people at once.
Speaker 2: Do I think he handled it the right way? Probably not,
Speaker 2: But that's why we want to chat to Bella. But
Speaker 2: it's very evident that there is a lot that has
Speaker 2: been missed out in this story, and I think that's
Speaker 2: why we decided to get Bella on today, just so
Speaker 2: we can learn what really happened behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: All right, well enough from us, let's get into the
Speaker 1: interview Bella. I am so excited to have you on
Speaker 1: the show today, and that is because since the very
Speaker 1: first day that I found out you were going to
Speaker 1: be on The Bachelor, I was like, we're going to
Speaker 1: get her on the podcast. And do you know how
Speaker 1: I found out that you were on the show. Have
Speaker 1: I told you this? No? I actually thought you were
Speaker 1: going to kill me because I didn't tell you, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, little bitch, why did
Speaker 1: you keep this from me? So Florence, So if anyone
Speaker 1: who doesn't know Florence, who was on my season of
Speaker 1: Bachelor with Matt, she sent me screenshots of an article
Speaker 1: that was in Daily Mail of you being papped on
Speaker 1: your first single day. I did not know this, so
Speaker 1: thanks for keeping that from me.
Speaker 3: Do you feel so betrayed?
Speaker 1: So betrayed? That's whe I'm going to get the dirt
Speaker 1: out of you today, You're like we were friends until then. No.
Speaker 1: I was actually so afraid because they put this like
Speaker 1: the fright into you, the fright, the fear they put
Speaker 1: the fear. They literally said to me, They're like, have
Speaker 1: you told Matt and Laura that you're coming on? And
Speaker 1: I was like no, I couldn't wait to Like once
Speaker 1: Lockdown happened and COVID happened and it was like that
Speaker 1: three month break. First person I called it was you
Speaker 1: to be like, don't kill me. Well, we're going to
Speaker 1: get into everything, particularly the finale. I want to know
Speaker 1: more about this whole lockdown period. Actually, I just want
Speaker 1: to know everything. But before we get into all of that,
Speaker 1: first off, something that we do with all our guess
Speaker 1: is do you have an embarrassing story for us? I
Speaker 1: have one. It's kind of gross.
Speaker 3: Though we love gross.
Speaker 1: We love it. So I was about eighteen, So this
Speaker 1: is when I was dating my first boyfriend. We were
Speaker 1: together for about four and a half five years, and
Speaker 1: I remember it was about I think it was someone's
Speaker 1: twenty first and it was really cute. It was like
Speaker 1: the first time I got to get dressed up in
Speaker 1: like he was in a suit. It was like black
Speaker 1: tie and I was like, oh, fancy. And then we
Speaker 1: got to this event. It was so beautiful. I think
Speaker 1: it was maybe like our first month together. And We're
Speaker 1: at the event and I've had a couple of champagnes,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I just start getting really
Speaker 1: hot and I was getting Honestly, I would have preferred that.
Speaker 1: I started getting like these waves of hate coming through
Speaker 1: my body, and I was like, something doesn't feel right.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna go outside and
Speaker 1: get some air. And I was like, oh, I'll come
Speaker 1: with you. And I was like, great, that was my
Speaker 1: way to get away from you. So we go outside.
Speaker 1: This is like on Bondi Road, by the way, like
Speaker 1: nice in public, really nice and public. Frey Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're standing outside and I'm like trying to compose myself.
Speaker 1: All of his mates have decided to come outside as well,
Speaker 1: and he's like, what's going on with you? He was
Speaker 1: like what's wrong? And I was like I don't know know.
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm fine, I'm fine. I keep brushing it off,
Speaker 1: and then he go I think he goes to grab
Speaker 1: my arm. And as he grabs my arm and he's like,
Speaker 1: do you need like, let me get you some water
Speaker 1: or something. I straw up all over his brand new suit.
Speaker 1: And when I mean all over, I mean like it
Speaker 1: was projectile. Onto your ladies and gentlemen. This is your
Speaker 1: most eligible.
Speaker 3: Bachelor brette in Australia right now.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like it's all about the romance. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it real. But hang on. You said
Speaker 1: you stayed with him for four years after done with
Speaker 1: me for four years after that's love, that's brilliant. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would.
Speaker 3: I think I disagree when you said you'd rather shit yourself.
Speaker 3: I think the vombit's fine.
Speaker 1: Like at least if you like shit yourself, you could
Speaker 1: sort yourself out in the bathroom. And it's just just
Speaker 1: all over him. And then I saw his face because
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're someone's vomiting near you and
Speaker 1: straight away you're like what not? It was so bad
Speaker 1: And then he was like, no, baby, it's finely took
Speaker 1: off his jacket and then yeah, it was shocking. So
Speaker 1: I had food poisoning the rest of that night. Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting anything quite as great as that. No
Speaker 1: hope to bring that to the table. I was like,
Speaker 1: there's a few sexual stories that could bring out, but
Speaker 1: I feel like, just in case my dad listens.
Speaker 3: To this, our poor parents.
Speaker 1: I know my father's disma, I've heard from him for
Speaker 1: six months.
Speaker 3: So Bella, let's go back.
Speaker 1: To the start.
Speaker 3: We've just seen it all play out.
Speaker 2: We know, well, we know part of you that production
Speaker 2: wanted us to see.
Speaker 3: But can you tell us who is Bella? Who were
Speaker 3: you before the show? What did you do? Who did
Speaker 3: you date? Why did you go on the show?
Speaker 1: Look, I think before the show, before the show even
Speaker 1: came about. For me, I'm I kind of have two
Speaker 1: sides to me. So I'm a digital marketer, but I'm
Speaker 1: also a freelance creative. So I've been in fashion for
Speaker 1: a few years. And I think that's kind of why
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of friends that have done this
Speaker 1: in the past, because I'm going to the same events
Speaker 1: that everyone's going to, and I'm meeting these people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I've been on The Bachelor, and it's like, oh, cool,
Speaker 1: did you fall in love? Not really, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: I was like, I fell in love, yeah, And then
Speaker 1: you meet the friends that are like, no, I genuinely
Speaker 1: fell in love and then you kind of just that's
Speaker 1: kind of where my connection to this whole thing happened.
Speaker 1: But I mean, aside from that, I think I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of your average Joe, you know. Just I spend
Speaker 1: most of my time at the ocean. I'm an absolute
Speaker 1: bloody dog, and I have a constant better with gravity.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much me in a nutshell. So what
Speaker 1: kind of relationship trauma have you been through in order
Speaker 1: to make you go, oh, I'm going to go on
Speaker 1: a reality TV show. No.
Speaker 3: I think that everyone that is.
Speaker 2: Cast has been through some sort of trauma. I think
Speaker 2: it's like part of your prerequisite or.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you just seem to have. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, for me, like I had relationship after relationship
Speaker 1: which didn't quite turn out the way that I wanted,
Speaker 1: and then the prospect of doing the show came up
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm going to I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try something different. I'm going to see how that works out.
Speaker 1: And obviously it went pretty well. Yeah. So really weirdly,
Speaker 1: my last two relationships have actually been Bachelor related, but
Speaker 1: without it actually being intended that way. So, for example,
Speaker 1: my first partner, I was with him for four years.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with Batch. Unfortunately, we were
Speaker 1: just too young, like we were. I met him when
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, and it was just like we were
Speaker 1: more best friends than we were anything. Honestly, that was
Speaker 1: probably one of the best relationships I've ever been in
Speaker 1: because he genuinely loved me for who I am, my
Speaker 1: dorky self. He saw every aspect of me and not
Speaker 1: once was he ever trying to change me or judge
Speaker 1: me or anything like that. So ultimately, that is what
Speaker 1: I look for in a relationship, like someone who loves
Speaker 1: me for who I am, no questions asked. My second
Speaker 1: relationship was kind of this is kind of where my
Speaker 1: triggers started to trickle in, whereas like it was one
Speaker 1: of those relationships where it was so electric and it
Speaker 1: was so passionate. But I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: in the right headspace for a relationship. So I got
Speaker 1: dragged on a little bit. I was young, I was
Speaker 1: in love, I was naive. He went on the Bachelorette,
Speaker 1: So who was that? So that was Sam Johnston Georgia
Speaker 1: Love Season. But you dated him before he was actually
Speaker 1: involved with Bachelorette. We dated way before, so we dated
Speaker 1: before Bachelorette was even a thing for him, and we
Speaker 1: actually ended up back together after he finished the show
Speaker 1: as well. So that's kind of where my connection to
Speaker 1: Matt comes in. And that's kind of where I met
Speaker 1: Matt Courtney through Matt ended up meeting Laura, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of where this little web had been created. So
Speaker 1: it was like, I mean, you're dating a guy, You're
Speaker 1: going to meet his mates. It just so happened that
Speaker 1: his mates were on the Bachelorette with him too. So
Speaker 1: and if you're thinking that the Bachelorette or the Bachelor
Speaker 1: is an incestuous community, it kind of is. So there
Speaker 1: you go, Yeah, you're big, big, big Greek family, big sisterhood,
Speaker 1: sister wives exactly. But I think it's just nice because
Speaker 1: you are like minded. So it's kind of like you're
Speaker 1: you're friends with people who are in the same headspace
Speaker 1: as you. They do the same work as you. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, And it's one of those experiences. I mean,
Speaker 1: I always say, like, obviously Britta and I we formed
Speaker 1: a really amazing friendship after the show, and you're like, sorry,
Speaker 1: who are you again? She's still playing hard to get,
Speaker 1: But that's the way it's my game. It's because you
Speaker 1: go through this thing which is such a such a
Speaker 1: weird and like I can't even put it into words
Speaker 1: what the multi experience is, and it really galvanizes you. Well,
Speaker 1: it really galvanizes you to people who have shared that
Speaker 1: same experience, because I think unless you have done a
Speaker 1: reality TV show, you don't really I can't fully understand
Speaker 1: or grasp what is involved in it. And I think
Speaker 1: that that was one of the conversations I had with
Speaker 1: you early on where I was like, you don't know
Speaker 1: what's coming for you, but I promise you'll be okay
Speaker 1: on the other side of it. Yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: I feel like though, like in that sense, I've been
Speaker 1: so grateful for people like you in my life where
Speaker 1: you've been through this as well. And it's like even
Speaker 1: Courtney gave me some really good advice and he was like,
Speaker 1: you'll be sweet, Like you are very so aware of
Speaker 1: your emotions. You're probably one of the most emotional people
Speaker 1: I know. So he was like, oh, in a good way.
Speaker 1: He was like, you're very connected to your emotions all
Speaker 1: beit love, sadness, whatever it may be. So he was like,
Speaker 1: I'll be there for you at the end. He even said,
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, Laura will be there for
Speaker 1: you at the end. So it's kind of like it's
Speaker 1: nice when you have people that have been through it
Speaker 1: and they just know when they get it. I had
Speaker 1: no idea it would be this insane, but I think
Speaker 1: it's just like it's blown my mind.
Speaker 3: Like it's one of those things, isn't.
Speaker 2: It's like people can warn you and tell you about
Speaker 2: it as until the cows come home, and you can
Speaker 2: go in thinking, Okay, I know what to expect.
Speaker 3: People have prepped me for it, but you.
Speaker 2: Can never ever ever be ready, especially in a situation
Speaker 2: like yours or all of us. I guess you can
Speaker 2: never really be ready for what happens then and what
Speaker 2: happens after. And it is tumultuous and the shit man.
Speaker 2: People I think sometimes forget that you're a human and
Speaker 2: they think that you're a bit of a character sometimes
Speaker 2: and it can be a really really rough couple of months.
Speaker 1: But it's just like I think, I think that's what
Speaker 1: shocked me, how nasty people can be and just like
Speaker 1: going out of their way to send you a really
Speaker 1: crappy message on Instagram, and it's like at first it
Speaker 1: started getting to me, but now I'm kind of just like,
Speaker 1: if that's what you're doing your day to day life,
Speaker 1: you just felt like you needed to go and really
Speaker 1: put someone down. Then I feel like maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say this, but you probably have bigger things to deal
Speaker 1: with in messaging someone that you have no idea who
Speaker 1: they are. So it's kind of like I didn't want
Speaker 1: to start letting that get to me because it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's like people what you fall in love, and they
Speaker 1: think they have the audacity to tell you how you
Speaker 1: do feel and opinions on your life. The reason why
Speaker 1: that arises is because we do get grouped into being
Speaker 1: a character. So and I was one of the things
Speaker 1: I was going to talk to you about how you
Speaker 1: kind of went from having this like wifey edit to
Speaker 1: the villainous edit to being the one who was heartbroken
Speaker 1: at the end. And what people really lose sight of
Speaker 1: is that you're not playing a character along the process
Speaker 1: of the show. You are just you, and you're having
Speaker 1: a very human experience on a reality TV show, and
Speaker 1: you'll react into things that are happening to you. But
Speaker 1: I just want to before we get into like the
Speaker 1: whole process of it. I do have a couple of
Speaker 1: like logistical questions. Can you tell us how long it's
Speaker 1: been since filming ended? Yes, so it was the end
Speaker 1: of July, so two months, like eight weeks? Yeah, seven
Speaker 1: week about seven eight weeks, So just so that everyone
Speaker 1: has some context and perspective on what that means and
Speaker 1: in comparison to what normal seasons look like. So when
Speaker 1: Britt and I finished filming, we had around three months,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit longer between when filming finished and
Speaker 1: when the finale actually played on TV. And so there
Speaker 1: is a much longer time frame for the person who
Speaker 1: is the one who's heartbroken at the end to actually
Speaker 1: grieve the relationship, move on a little bit, and have
Speaker 1: some closure before watching it play out on TV. Whereas
Speaker 1: in this season of The Bachelor, because of COVID and
Speaker 1: because of lockdown and everything being extended and production time
Speaker 1: frames being thrown out, obviously that timeframe was really reduced.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a lot rawer for
Speaker 1: you than what maybe it would have been for Bread.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm putting words in your mouth.
Speaker 3: But I mean it was pretty fucking raw. But thanks, Lauren.
Speaker 1: So going back to your edit. So we saw you
Speaker 1: going from having this like really beautiful beginning of your
Speaker 1: relationship with Lockie, and like the first couple of episodes
Speaker 1: were so romantic and like I think from the get go,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, well it's in the bag, it's Bella,
Speaker 1: just pack up and go home.
Speaker 3: You got the intro music too, didn't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got the intro music, and like I have
Speaker 1: to admit, like it called out to me because I
Speaker 1: was like, I love fairy tales, and they was like
Speaker 1: this is so cute, like it's my own little fairy tale,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you guys have no idea what's coming.
Speaker 3: Mabe. I'm feeling I got the fairy tale editor from.
Speaker 1: The beginning too. What was it like watching those first
Speaker 1: few episodes back and knowing that everybody was rooting for you,
Speaker 1: but it not being in you. I think it was hard.
Speaker 1: I mean I even had that before the show started airing.
Speaker 1: I had girls from the show, like other girls that
Speaker 1: were on the show with me and family members being like,
Speaker 1: I know you're out and you're finished. I know you
Speaker 1: can't tell us what happened, but we know it to you,
Speaker 1: so we just were happy for you. Let us know,
Speaker 1: when the wedding is and I'm reading these messages and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god on, like it hurts because I
Speaker 1: think even Roxy said to me at one point she
Speaker 1: was like, mate, like he doesn't look at you like
Speaker 1: he looks at anyone else. And it's like hearing that
Speaker 1: and You're like, but then what happened, Like if other
Speaker 1: people could see it too, then what actually happened in
Speaker 1: the end. So I think it just it really messed
Speaker 1: with my head because part of me was like at
Speaker 1: the end, I was like, was it in my head?
Speaker 1: Was it this amazing connection? And it was actually just
Speaker 1: me thinking it was, you know, immense and there was
Speaker 1: so much love, but really that was only one sided.
Speaker 1: But then seeing people say that, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so they're seeing it too. They saw it as well.
Speaker 1: So it was pretty rough. But I think in the
Speaker 1: beginning it kind of just made me realize. When I
Speaker 1: was watching it back, I was like, no, that was there.
Speaker 1: We did have a connection, and it was it was real.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy told you that he loved you
Speaker 1: in the last episode also wrote it on his arm,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say it was. Everybody was equally as
Speaker 1: confused yea by that cluster fuck as what you are honestly,
Speaker 1: and I think some people have even been saying, well no,
Speaker 1: he said he was falling in love with you, and
Speaker 1: he said I've fallen in love with her, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well no.
Speaker 2: But he did say in the pool I love you
Speaker 2: so okay, So I have a question. He did actually
Speaker 2: say I love you right up, yeah, and you said
Speaker 2: I love you too, I love you too, Okay, I
Speaker 2: do have a question or another one man shoot. Did
Speaker 2: he ever say like whether this is in private to
Speaker 2: you on camera and they didn't play it or whatever?
Speaker 3: Did he ever say basically like it is you it
Speaker 3: will be Yeah?
Speaker 1: He straight upsets you. During lockdown we were talking about
Speaker 1: engagement rings. He was like, would you what would you
Speaker 1: do if I proposed to you? At the end? What
Speaker 1: the bar? He I think the one thing that really
Speaker 1: got me was when he said to me, he was like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to make you happy for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life, And that for me was I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't say that to someone on you really want
Speaker 1: that to like unless he's sitting there And I remember
Speaker 1: saying to Mom and I was like, I think I
Speaker 1: found the person that actually wants to be with me,
Speaker 1: Like of all the things that I've been through, you know,
Speaker 1: my exes and being somehow connected to the Bachelor, this
Speaker 1: is obviously what it was all pointing to. I had
Speaker 1: to come on here, I had to meet Lockie, and
Speaker 1: he's going to be the person that I wanted to
Speaker 1: be with.
Speaker 3: I've just got to legitimately got goosebump speaking. I see
Speaker 3: me and you so much listening to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really feeling I know, like I actually I
Speaker 1: remember seeing some of your posts at the end of
Speaker 1: your season. I actually didn't watch your season, but I
Speaker 1: remember seeing posts at the end because when I heard
Speaker 1: what happened, I was like, brah no. So I went
Speaker 1: and looked at your post and I read it and
Speaker 1: my heart literally broke for you. So like I'm I
Speaker 1: feel like you're you know, like it's literally gaslighting. So
Speaker 1: but what I think is different in your experience and
Speaker 1: what I think we really need to dive into is
Speaker 1: this whole period during lockdown, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: rules around, like the way that you can interact with
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and like I know from my season, like
Speaker 1: we didn't have any access to phones. You know, I
Speaker 1: only got to speak to Matt when it was on camera,
Speaker 1: and it was times that had been organized. However, during
Speaker 1: this whole period of lockdown, what were the rules, like,
Speaker 1: how was it how was it supposed to run? So
Speaker 1: when we actually got out, when it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so there is a global pandemic and you're all going home.
Speaker 1: I think the first thing I actually said to Osha
Speaker 1: was like, you pulling my leg because I didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: And you because you don't know what's happening in the world,
Speaker 1: you don't have access to the news. You just you're
Speaker 1: so isolated in this little Stockholm syndrome bubble.
Speaker 2: It's necessary before that the whole world has gone into lockdown.
Speaker 1: If someone came to me and said that, you feel
Speaker 1: like as as we're not allowed to leave our house, No,
Speaker 1: it was just weird. So and on that first night,
Speaker 1: it was actually like we didn't know if we were
Speaker 1: going to be able to talk to Lockey, We didn't
Speaker 1: know if we were staying in the mansion, if we
Speaker 1: were going home. We didn't know if our families were okay.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of like unanswered questions. And
Speaker 1: once we got home that night or the next night.
Speaker 1: I think there was about two days before. One of
Speaker 1: the producers had called me and it was a Monday morning.
Speaker 1: I actually remember it so vividly because he was like, so,
Speaker 1: I just want to give you like a debrief on
Speaker 1: what's going to be happening now that you know we've
Speaker 1: gone into hiatus. He was like, you will actually have
Speaker 1: contact with Lockee one FaceTime a week, and then there'll
Speaker 1: be like two days where you can text freely, unlimited
Speaker 1: messages like whatever you want, and like a voice call
Speaker 1: or whatever. And he was like, I'm going to send
Speaker 1: Locke your number now. He'll probably call you at some
Speaker 1: point today, and he mentioned that it might have been
Speaker 1: like a FaceTime or video chat. So and I had
Speaker 1: been sitting at home for three days. I was like,
Speaker 1: my hair is oily. I haven't unpacked my bags. I
Speaker 1: was like, there is no way I'm getting on FaceTime
Speaker 1: to this man looking like this. Ran in the shower
Speaker 1: like wash, I don't even know why. I was shaving
Speaker 1: my legs. I was shaving my legs. I was like, like,
Speaker 1: FaceTime video calls have really good clarity these days.
Speaker 3: You need me to shave your legs.
Speaker 1: It was just like I remember Mum being like what
Speaker 1: just happened? And I was like, Locky, like call me today.
Speaker 1: I just want to shower just in case it's soon.
Speaker 1: Mid shower, my phone starts called and I was like,
Speaker 1: part of me was like no, just like you know,
Speaker 1: we don't even know if it's him. Just finish a shower.
Speaker 1: And then I was like stop it. Got out of shower,
Speaker 1: wet towel, answered the phone like played it cool, come
Speaker 1: and collected. I was like hey, he's.
Speaker 2: Like you are a toilet.
Speaker 1: Literally and he was like hey, bells and I was like,
Speaker 1: Lucky and then we just we were on the phone
Speaker 1: for like five hours, so it's time. Yeah. So no,
Speaker 1: it was the first chat was like a two minute
Speaker 1: call to be like, hey, are you free for FaceTime
Speaker 1: in like ten minutes and I was like yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, actually, just got out of the shower, so
Speaker 1: let me pit yeah, and he was like not if
Speaker 1: you don't want to. I was like okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: and it begins and it begins. So yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is kind of where schedule went out the window. Lucky
Speaker 1: and I were talking every day, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: and he actually said to me he was like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you as much as I can.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about only calling me on Tuesdays or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it was from the get go that's where it
Speaker 1: all started. So I know, I know what you were
Speaker 1: just about. Yeah, just put her hand up to ask
Speaker 1: a question. I know no one can see this, but
Speaker 1: I'm so engrossed in this right now.
Speaker 2: I am so engrossed on like four hours, I'm like, so,
Speaker 2: did production know that you were talking this much?
Speaker 3: Or was just like on the.
Speaker 1: Sly So I kept it from production for the first
Speaker 1: few weeks because I didn't want to get Locky in
Speaker 1: trouble for not doing the right thing. And part of
Speaker 1: me as well, I was like, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: between Locke and I, like I'm not and this is
Speaker 1: with the girls too. I was like, I wasn't telling
Speaker 1: them how much we were talking because I didn't want to, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to rub that in, and part of
Speaker 1: me was like, it's my connection with him anyway, So
Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep that to myself. So I
Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone, and he did say that he mentioned
Speaker 1: to like his producer that we were speaking more than
Speaker 1: we should have been. But I think that was like
Speaker 1: he probably dumped it down a fair bit. It would
Speaker 1: have just been unfair to the other girls when you
Speaker 1: were having these conversations. Was he telling you that he
Speaker 1: was speaking to the other girls just as much or
Speaker 1: did you have this indication that it was just you
Speaker 1: getting all this extra time and attention. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: told me I was the only one that he was
Speaker 1: talking to every day. So it's actually funny because Beck
Speaker 1: actually ended up saying to me once we moved in together,
Speaker 1: we obviously and even in the house we were talking
Speaker 1: about everything, and she was like, oh, Lockie told me
Speaker 1: that I was the only one he was talking to
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as if this wasn't going to get back
Speaker 2: between all the girls, Like I think guys are sometimes
Speaker 2: really naive, especially in an environment like this. We the
Speaker 2: women are on top of each other, you're spending all
Speaker 2: day together, You're forming really quick, intense bonds with each other,
Speaker 2: usually with each other more than him the bachelor. As
Speaker 2: if you guys aren't going to start talking about the
Speaker 2: fact that.
Speaker 1: Exactly that's the thing. And I think as well, like
Speaker 1: little things like for example, where he added like a
Speaker 1: few of the girls on Snapchat, and then one of
Speaker 1: them had actually said it to me, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like do you have Snapchat? He was like no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have it. And then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: do people even thirty half snapchat? Like what sort of
Speaker 1: pictures this one sending on Snapchat? That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know. You know, it's probably not of his dog.
Speaker 1: He's baking and eggs for breakfast. Maybe bacon, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: me vacon.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is he do.
Speaker 2: So did you get I'm like gonna make you feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: but I want to know did he send you like
Speaker 2: inappropriate messages?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying inappropriate.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is it's not inapprop like, it's
Speaker 1: not you know, when you're dating someone, you send a
Speaker 1: little something, you know what I mean, Like you're just
Speaker 1: you're keeping the relationship alive, the connection alive. You're in
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship basically, so you know you're you're
Speaker 1: doing what you can to keep that fire there and
Speaker 1: that sexual chemistry. So like, no, I didn't get nude
Speaker 1: and send him like nude photos, but of course we
Speaker 1: like send a little message or you know, there were
Speaker 1: some cheeky I think that's that's like a really important
Speaker 1: thing to clarify, and also to compare that to how
Speaker 1: the Bachelor normally sort of transpires or the normal typical
Speaker 1: bachelor journey. So, like I mean, for me and Matt,
Speaker 1: like nothing sexual ever happened on the show. The most
Speaker 1: sexual thing that ever happened between him and I was
Speaker 1: that he pushed me up against the wall and we like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: very hardcore made out on one of my single dates.
Speaker 1: But that was it, Like that was literally it. And
Speaker 1: never ever ever did he give me any verbal affirmation
Speaker 1: that it was going to be me. Never did I
Speaker 1: ever feel confident that it was going to be me either.
Speaker 1: So then all of that happening throughout lockdown and like
Speaker 1: that is a three month period or a two and
Speaker 1: a half month window. Yeah, it was about two and
Speaker 1: a half months off completely off camera. It was just
Speaker 1: like normal life. And then we had a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks of love and lockdown and filming, and then we
Speaker 1: went back into the mansion after that. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: like a few months there where you're unsupervised or outside
Speaker 1: of the bachelor bubble. The rules don't apply anymore, and
Speaker 1: you're having a legitimate relationship with someone. I mean, i'lbeit
Speaker 1: he's still seeing other people, but aren't all guys in
Speaker 1: Sydney when you're dead.
Speaker 2: That is my whole.
Speaker 1: Life exactly and out of the back actually, and I
Speaker 1: actually I remember saying to him at one point, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, because I said to him, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's going to happen. What if we don't
Speaker 1: go back to filming, Like what then? And he was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just fly over to Perth. So there was a
Speaker 1: lot of things that he had said to me that
Speaker 1: was like for me going back into the mansion and
Speaker 1: it was just like, this is a home run. Don't
Speaker 1: stress like everything's going to be okay, don't freak yourself out,
Speaker 1: don't let the other girls get in your head. So
Speaker 1: going back in there, I think that's why I had
Speaker 1: that sense of confidence, because he had basically told me
Speaker 1: that it was just going back in to finish this thing,
Speaker 1: and then pretty much that was it.
Speaker 3: Like there was a formality you just had to tie exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why obviously there was a lot
Speaker 1: that happened during lockdown that wasn't just between Locke and
Speaker 1: I it was all of the girls. So there were
Speaker 1: girls at the beginning of you know, when we started
Speaker 1: filming that never even said a word to me. And
Speaker 1: then during Lockdown and the filming of Love in Lockdown,
Speaker 1: things were coming to air and they were just like,
Speaker 1: we're sorry that we weren't mates with you at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this because of you know, life. So talk
Speaker 1: me through what happened with your relationships, because obviously things
Speaker 1: changed with you and Locky during Lockdown, but I was
Speaker 1: very very clear to everybody who followed the show that
Speaker 1: your friendships changed as well. And obviously that was a
Speaker 1: time when things started to really go south with Irena,
Speaker 1: and obviously there was more to the story. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think anyone who watched that episode that first copped our
Speaker 1: party back after Lockdown, Yeah, where the fight transpired between
Speaker 1: you and Irena could tell that the fight didn't really
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense and that there may have
Speaker 1: been more context behind it. Of course, like, let's put
Speaker 1: it this way, I wouldn't have had a reaction like
Speaker 1: that unless I was not only pissed off but devastated.
Speaker 1: I was upset, and that's why in that moment, my
Speaker 1: emotions just got the best of me, and I think, obviously,
Speaker 1: what you're not seeing is that like, yes, I said
Speaker 1: these things, but you're not seeing the questions that I
Speaker 1: was asked to get these answers. It's more so coming
Speaker 1: across like I'm just saying these things on my own
Speaker 1: accord without being prompted. But I was being prompted, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like these emotional reactions that I'm having
Speaker 1: are reactions. They aren't just me throwing my hands up
Speaker 1: in the air having a cry and being like friendship done.
Speaker 1: That was like a half an hour of forty five
Speaker 1: minute chat. And the thing is as well, like there
Speaker 1: was a lot that you actually saw in filming, which
Speaker 1: was interesting for me to watch it back where I
Speaker 1: did notice that Irena had been doing little things behind
Speaker 1: my back, and I think I just kind of turned
Speaker 1: a blind eye to it because you are in this
Speaker 1: situation where you know, you are with women who were
Speaker 1: also falling in love with the same man. So part
Speaker 1: of me was just like, it's fine, like we're all
Speaker 1: gonna we're all gonna say little things and little remarks.
Speaker 1: But that one night that really changed things for me
Speaker 1: was the whole Bella Kiss Locky at the cocktail party,
Speaker 1: and when Irena had actually told Roxy that, when in
Speaker 1: actual fact, Irena had kissed him that night too, so
Speaker 1: oh wow, we just didn't see it, and you didn't
Speaker 1: see that. So it's little things like that where I
Speaker 1: hadn't even she never told me that she told Roxy.
Speaker 1: So when Roxy popped off about LOCKI and I having
Speaker 1: a peck, I was like, how did Roxy find out?
Speaker 1: And Irena was like, oh, like, I'm not sure. So
Speaker 1: it was interesting watching that back. So she passed him
Speaker 1: as well that night? Ye?
Speaker 3: And did he pass anyone else at the cocktail party?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I think our good Sun passed
Speaker 1: a few people at he didn't hold bad.
Speaker 3: This is what is a bit of a red flag
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I don't know if I'm alone this, Laura,
Speaker 2: you can tell me how you think for me. I
Speaker 2: know that Nick kissed one person at the cocktail party.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say who, because I know that that happened,
Speaker 2: but they never showed it. Yeah, okay, and I really
Speaker 2: like this girl, don't It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 3: But if he if I knew Nick was kissing.
Speaker 2: Women at the cocktail party, multiple women, I almost feel
Speaker 2: like I would have been done with the show because
Speaker 2: to me, that's a bit of a level of disrespect.
Speaker 2: I just thought like, maybe it's different if there's one
Speaker 2: clear winter from the beginning, it's away from other people,
Speaker 2: but like to be just passing everyone at the cocktail
Speaker 2: parties with all the other girls, I just I just
Speaker 2: turned me off a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think that people who haven't been on
Speaker 1: the show don't realize that this is like this unspoken rule,
Speaker 1: like you can do whatever you want on your date,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, yeah, there is this rule that
Speaker 1: exists between like the girl code of the show that
Speaker 1: you don't kiss a guy at the cocktail party. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: but like obviously that kind of went out the window
Speaker 1: in your season, and if everyone was doing it, then
Speaker 1: maybe then then the stakes kind of change. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think as well, especially with Lockie, Like even in
Speaker 1: that moment, I actually remember being like like he was
Speaker 1: like give me a little like a little kiss, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't like the girls. But then
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, but are you here for me?
Speaker 1: Here for the girls? Oh, Psyche, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So in Locke's head, he's not thinking, oh, like she's
Speaker 1: she's caring for the girls, but then what's her what's
Speaker 1: her priority here? And that It's actually funny because obviously
Speaker 1: the TV made it look like it was a lot longer,
Speaker 1: but it was literally just like a little pet goodbye
Speaker 1: just before we got off the couch and walked away.
Speaker 1: So it was just like little moments like that where
Speaker 1: I'm like, when you're actually falling for someone and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: what's your priority here? And I'm like, well, you are
Speaker 1: my priority at the end of the day, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily come into this thing to find best mates,
Speaker 1: even though I'm really grateful that I did. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so little moments like that, and I think as well,
Speaker 1: like I obviously I hadn't seen any of Arena doing
Speaker 1: those things. So during lockdown, that's what happened. It all
Speaker 1: started coming to air all the things that she had
Speaker 1: been saying to stephan Easy had kind of came and
Speaker 1: told me about all that stuff. So that night back
Speaker 1: in the mansion was all of that coming to surface.
Speaker 1: Do you know what those things were? Like? Do you
Speaker 1: have some context of that? So she tried to tell
Speaker 1: a few of the girls that I had body shamed her,
Speaker 1: which literally never happened. She actually has a great body.
Speaker 1: She's a babe, and I should constantly tell her that.
Speaker 1: So when stephan Izzy told me that she had been
Speaker 1: telling them my body shamed her and then she was
Speaker 1: saying the same thing to Roxy and Maddie and this
Speaker 1: is in text, I obviously got really upset and that
Speaker 1: I apparently I said Locki would never find her attractive.
Speaker 1: So I was really upset, so told Locki that I
Speaker 1: had a fight with Ariba about who was the biggest socialite.
Speaker 1: Never I don't think I've ever even said like five
Speaker 1: words to Ariba. We were in the same room at
Speaker 1: the beginning for like a week, and I literally don't
Speaker 1: even think we said more than like good morning to
Speaker 1: each other once. So things like that where Lockie then
Speaker 1: admitted to me he was like, you know, I'm questioning
Speaker 1: your integrity because of you know, the fact that you
Speaker 1: had a fight with Ariba about who was the bigger socialite.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, So, what.
Speaker 2: Was the actual the lead up and the blow up
Speaker 2: with you in arena that night?
Speaker 1: What was that we didn't see? What was co I
Speaker 1: remember going to the bathroom and coming back in irena,
Speaker 1: was sitting there at the couch waiting for me. Oh,
Speaker 1: I hate those set up chats. Yeah, I've been thrown
Speaker 1: into my door kicking on. And then this chat set
Speaker 1: up chat happened and she was just like the first
Speaker 1: thing she said to me was like I miss my
Speaker 1: Bella and I miss our friendship. And I was like
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking about it, and I'd actually been like
Speaker 1: five minutes ago, five minutes before that, I could hear
Speaker 1: her like having a yarn with Roxy and Maney about me,
Speaker 1: and then it just like I just got really frustrated
Speaker 1: because when I feel like someone's being shady, I often
Speaker 1: call them out on their bullshit, like I did with
Speaker 1: Lockie at the end that path. Yeah, so little things
Speaker 1: like that where I was just like, I was getting
Speaker 1: frustrated in that moment, and then I said, look, Irena,
Speaker 1: I was like, I've just heard some things during lockdown
Speaker 1: that Steph and Easy have told me you said to them.
Speaker 1: So we started talking about it, and then Steph had
Speaker 1: overheard Irena say I never said that, and then Steph
Speaker 1: got the shits and came over and she was like,
Speaker 1: just let me clarify here. You're telling me that you
Speaker 1: never said that. If you didn't say that to me,
Speaker 1: and you weren't talking about it for the hour flight
Speaker 1: back on the plane to Melbourne. What are we talking about? Then?
Speaker 1: Easy then came and sat down and that's when it
Speaker 1: all kind of came to a head, and Steph was
Speaker 1: getting upset and I was just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I was like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I think I turned around and I said
Speaker 1: to her, I was like, Irena, if I've been body
Speaker 1: shaming you and I'm this horrid person that you're making
Speaker 1: me out to be, why do you want to sit
Speaker 1: here and be friends with me again? I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel for Arena as well, because she would obviously be
Speaker 1: in the same place as you and probably have been
Speaker 1: in contact with Lockie all the time and thinking that
Speaker 1: she was the only one exactly who it was going
Speaker 1: to be. So I do really feel for her, and
Speaker 1: also for the fact that, like you are pitted against
Speaker 1: each other, you are in competition, and it does put
Speaker 1: incredible strain on those frames. But watching it back on
Speaker 1: TV as a viewer, you only get a very small
Speaker 1: sliver of what actually happens, because you've got to remember,
Speaker 1: we're filming all day every day, for months and that's
Speaker 1: all condensed down into two one hour episodes a week,
Speaker 1: and so it's very easy to take things and rechange
Speaker 1: the context of an argument or a fight and create
Speaker 1: it's a show. It's entertaxactly, and it's amazingly entertaining, but
Speaker 1: it's also real people's lives that are on the other
Speaker 1: end of this as well. Yep. And I think at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, right, like Irena and I
Speaker 1: had been given a lot of reassurance, so coming back
Speaker 1: in we were both so in love with this man
Speaker 1: that like even looking back and thinking of the little
Speaker 1: things that started that argument, and I'm like, ultimately it
Speaker 1: was just like he said, she said, she said this,
Speaker 1: and then you got the shits and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: blah blah, And it's like, ultimately we were just two
Speaker 1: women that were in love with the men and didn't
Speaker 1: want that to get in the way of us having
Speaker 1: our happily ever after. So it was just it all
Speaker 1: came to a head. And also you're in that situation
Speaker 1: that pulls emotions out of you in ways that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't really react that way that quickly, So I think, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are probably some things that I should have internalized,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Was kind such a bitch.
Speaker 1: Exactly, so I think, like, ultimately I look back and
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit happened. I got annoyed that of the
Speaker 1: things that she was doing, She got annoyed with some
Speaker 1: of the things that I was obviously doing, and it
Speaker 1: just kind of came to a head. And for me,
Speaker 1: I just was in a headspace at that time where
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have space for this in
Speaker 1: my life. But also I think, like, you know, and
Speaker 1: not to like harp on about it, but I do
Speaker 1: think it's a reflection of this changing the way that
Speaker 1: that lockdown has changed the dynamic of the conversations. I
Speaker 1: can only assume that if you were receiving that level
Speaker 1: of reassurance from Lockie, that Irena was probably receiving the same,
Speaker 1: of course, And that is incredibly conflicting and a really
Speaker 1: difficult thing to come back into the mansion, especially when
Speaker 1: you're both talking about your own personal experiences and saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I spoke to him every day, and then you're being
Speaker 1: told by him that, well, I haven't spoken to anybody
Speaker 1: else like this, but there's someone else there saying It's like,
Speaker 1: who's lying in the exact way. So this is like
Speaker 1: one of the things that I got frustrated about was
Speaker 1: I was keeping everything to myself, And Lockie actually said
Speaker 1: that to me. He was like, I really appreciate the
Speaker 1: fact that everything we've spoken about, you haven't gone and
Speaker 1: told the other girls. You're not telling them how much
Speaker 1: we talk. You're keeping it all to yourself. And he
Speaker 1: was like, thank you for being so.
Speaker 2: Thank you for allowing me to do what I'm doing
Speaker 2: and speak to everyone else without their name.
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate it. Keeping our relationship is secret. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything's gonna go off like a bag of prowles and
Speaker 1: your son exactly which ended up happening.
Speaker 2: When you're so in love with this person and this
Speaker 2: is not just a bachelor this is real life too.
Speaker 2: When you're in love with this person and you want
Speaker 2: to be with them and you've imagined your life with them,
Speaker 2: you believe everything they say. If anyone else comes in
Speaker 2: and threatens that not even threatens it, but if she says, well,
Speaker 2: we're talking too, and he's told you he's not, you're
Speaker 2: going to favor him. You're gonna believe him, So you're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, well, you're lying, Arena, because he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have told me this if it wasn't exactly ya.
Speaker 3: And she's the same, She's gonna be like Bella.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to her every day like obviously you're telling
Speaker 2: FIBs like yeah, probably just this.
Speaker 3: There's no way lock you lie to me.
Speaker 1: Feeling exactly And I think, as well, that's kind of why,
Speaker 1: and like, don't get me wrong, like, yes, it blew
Speaker 1: up that night, but we were still civil in the house,
Speaker 1: Like STEPHANIZI runed with Arena. We'd all chill by the fire,
Speaker 1: like we had family dinners, we'd watch movies together. Like
Speaker 1: it's not like we were like pitted together against each
Speaker 1: other the whole time. Well, I have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of rumors that we're going to attend to at the
Speaker 1: end of this episode. That's what happens every year. I
Speaker 1: mean every year there's things that come out in the media.
Speaker 1: There's always stories that are perpetuated that that push a
Speaker 1: certain narrative, you know, there's always I mean I remember
Speaker 1: when when it was Matt and My season, and the
Speaker 1: story was that we had a secret pack from the beginning,
Speaker 1: we knew each other before the show, and it was
Speaker 1: always going to be me at the end. Obviously that's
Speaker 1: not true. It never happened, But there's still people out
Speaker 1: there who believe that. Yeah, and it's the one person
Speaker 1: that says it, and then five media it's big en
Speaker 1: up and then all of a sudden, it came from
Speaker 1: my mouth and it's like what Yeah, And all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, because the media is reported on it and
Speaker 1: it's become viral news, it also becomes fact. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think can be most frustrating
Speaker 1: when you're in this position, and it's a position that
Speaker 1: like nobody can prepare you for when everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: you and you don't have the ability to say, hey,
Speaker 1: that's not true, this is what happened, This isn't my
Speaker 1: side of the story. Yeah, it has been. It's been like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I've been learning new things about myself every day with
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's been coming out in the media.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of just like, yeah, I'm keen to
Speaker 1: debunk some of those rumors with you guys, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So were you in love with Lockie at this point
Speaker 2: of the show where you and Arena had the chat
Speaker 2: or did you just feel like it was still building.
Speaker 1: Well, like at that time, like Loki and I had
Speaker 1: already been sending like you know when you like love
Speaker 1: heart emoji you and stuff like that, so we kind
Speaker 1: of almost got there. And it's like when you're looking
Speaker 1: at someone and you're like, I want to say it,
Speaker 1: but I'm stopping myself because that's like the final thing.
Speaker 1: And I think as well, like I knew that something
Speaker 1: that happened at finale, so I was like waiting for that,
Speaker 1: but I think.
Speaker 3: What usually happens, I'm saving this for the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, saving this for the end jokes, but no,
Speaker 1: it was just it was one of those things where
Speaker 1: I was like, that's how you know it's real when
Speaker 1: you genuinely when it almost slips out of your mouth
Speaker 1: five times. So to be honest, those like saying I
Speaker 1: love you is a really hard thing for me to
Speaker 1: do in relationships. It is an absolute trigger and a
Speaker 1: half that I should probably start dealing with at some point.
Speaker 1: But I think I have said it to people in
Speaker 1: the past and it has just like kind of kicked
Speaker 1: me while I was down, and I think saying I
Speaker 1: love you and not hearing it back is probably the
Speaker 1: hardest thing you'd ever have to deal with, and having
Speaker 1: that in two relationships before this, I think I was
Speaker 1: just petrified knowing that if I say it, I actually
Speaker 1: won't be able to hear it back in this situation.
Speaker 1: So it was really scary for me and just opening
Speaker 1: myself up to being in love again. And that's why
Speaker 1: I was so upset at Hometowns because I was so
Speaker 1: in love with him at Hometowns. When that stuff happened
Speaker 1: with Irena, I knew I loved him, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I was still a little bit like you're still on
Speaker 1: that journey. So it was kind of like I knew
Speaker 1: I loved him, but I hadn't admitted it to myself yet.
Speaker 1: But Hometowns was that the head where it came to,
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy crap, Like I'm genuinely in
Speaker 1: love with this person, and that petrifies me.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Hometowns because I have a question,
Speaker 2: and I think everyone has this questions your heart.
Speaker 1: Step mate, he walked on screen and I was like,
Speaker 1: hot brother. Literally what I said, if I get one
Speaker 1: more stepdaddy meme, I'm going to stepdaddy vibe.
Speaker 2: I want to know what your mom's I would like
Speaker 2: some advice from your mom because I'm currently looking.
Speaker 1: I should have brought her on the podcast. She would
Speaker 1: have loved that.
Speaker 3: I think I think probably might have been a good thing,
Speaker 3: but I think he was definitely the conversation of your hometown.
Speaker 1: I saw a meme that was something like when Bella's
Speaker 1: stepdut is the hottest man to walk on The Bachelor
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and I was like, wow, wow, no,
Speaker 1: but he their relationship is actually blessed. I got a
Speaker 1: kick out of that night because I love saying my
Speaker 1: dad and my stepdad in the same room because they're
Speaker 1: so different, like they are literally it's literally like you
Speaker 1: know when you have the two relationships in your life,
Speaker 1: and like one was the makes sense passionate you know, sorry,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, Like we were together for so long
Speaker 1: and then that's the natural thing to do is to
Speaker 1: get married and have babies. And then the other one
Speaker 1: is the guy that was like the you know, the
Speaker 1: passion and like yeah, So it was like it's funny
Speaker 1: seeing them both together because it's literally both sides of
Speaker 1: my mom in one room. But he is thirteen years
Speaker 1: younger than mom. So they met when he was twenty
Speaker 1: one and she was thirty three, so he I think
Speaker 1: that's why when some people are like, oh, like men
Speaker 1: mature later or young men don't know what they want,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well sometimes they do. It's just so
Speaker 1: hilarious because I had this conversation with brit all the
Speaker 1: time and I'm like, you really need to up your
Speaker 1: radius on Tinder and stopped ye old by.
Speaker 3: We've dated a few younger guys and not twenty one.
Speaker 1: But well pretty much they met at a dirty night club, so.
Speaker 3: Well we're not allowed to do that. Laura is always
Speaker 3: on my back.
Speaker 2: She's like literally not under thirty, whereas I've gone a
Speaker 2: couple of years younger than thirty. And I thought, I
Speaker 2: always say they don't see that age, and I think
Speaker 2: age is just a number. At a same point in time,
Speaker 2: age becomes a number. It's a connection, it can be
Speaker 2: a cure. So thank you for I've dated.
Speaker 1: I've dated men in the early thirties and they act
Speaker 1: like the eighteen No. I want to I want okay,
Speaker 1: I want to fuss forward this now you to finale issue,
Speaker 1: not not the finale, but like the days leading up
Speaker 1: to finale the pool. Yeah, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the pool. No, first thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about you meeting Lockie's mum and
Speaker 1: one of the things that I saw in that meeting,
Speaker 1: because I remember when I met Matt's mum. I actually
Speaker 1: I had the most beautiful time meeting his mum, Like
Speaker 1: we got on like a house on fire. Ellie is
Speaker 1: one of the people I'm closest to in the world
Speaker 1: now and exceevert britty. But my meeting, like when they
Speaker 1: showed it on the TV, that was actually something that
Speaker 1: was such a trigger for me because the way that
Speaker 1: it was edited and watching me meet Matt's mum back
Speaker 1: was made to look like I was completely neurotic. It
Speaker 1: made it look like I was an insane person and
Speaker 1: that me and his mum didn't get along at all,
Speaker 1: which is completely not what happened. But when I watched
Speaker 1: you guys meet, which one, it was weird because you
Speaker 1: were together and that's never meant to humming. You were
Speaker 1: very quick to talk about your friendship with Arena and
Speaker 1: the fact that you weren't friends anymore, and that's what
Speaker 1: it looked like. But I was sitting there watching it
Speaker 1: being like, I feel like you've got prompt by this,
Speaker 1: so I want to know what happened there. We were
Speaker 1: just having a chat, talking about like we're talking about
Speaker 1: the whole experience, and then she actually whipped out the question,
Speaker 1: being like, so I've heard you guys used to be
Speaker 1: really close friends. Producers asked me to ask you this question, literally,
Speaker 1: so I have to ask this question. I could see
Speaker 1: in her face She's like, so what happened? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: here we go. And then I actually waited for a
Speaker 1: little bit because I was like oh, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, is Irena gonna And I was like, here
Speaker 1: we go. Goal just answer it because I'm not going
Speaker 1: to sit here awkwardly while his mother's staring at me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but I think that's why I kind
Speaker 1: of just answered. I was like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: lie to my potential future mother in law. So I
Speaker 1: was like, look, yeah, we used to be close. We're
Speaker 1: not that close anymore. And then Irena literally was just
Speaker 1: sitting there. So I was like, hey, Rena, like pop
Speaker 1: in anytime you want, like, and she was just like
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it's really interesting getting that
Speaker 1: context though, because I think, like when you watch it
Speaker 1: on the show, it really does seem like you're just
Speaker 1: offering us a nation freely. But often oftentimes when conversations
Speaker 1: do pop up, it's because you've been prompted to have
Speaker 1: those conversationally, You've been asked a specific question, and then
Speaker 1: obviously questions can be easily removed to allow the conversations
Speaker 1: seem like it's taken a different turn. But that's why
Speaker 1: it looked like I was just like trying to pipe
Speaker 1: in constantly, and I was like, I'm really alone away,
Speaker 1: but it was it was, yeah, pick me, pick me.
Speaker 1: She's like, I think you have that like the passion
Speaker 1: in you to put Locky in his place when he
Speaker 1: needs to be put in his place. And I think
Speaker 1: that's one thing that she did say, And she was like,
Speaker 1: look like often Locke thinks it's his world and you
Speaker 1: know everyone else is living in it. But I think
Speaker 1: I kind of even said to her, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I was Locky. As long as Lockie is
Speaker 1: going to take some of my wants and needs into
Speaker 1: consideration as well, then that's sweet. But I actually don't
Speaker 1: know if that's like, I don't know if I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's actually true. Yeah, because I think, like
Speaker 1: I think he said, and he even said that to me.
Speaker 1: He's like, I love that you're passionate. I love that
Speaker 1: you have your own I love that you have your
Speaker 1: own goals and where you want to be and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But now I look back and I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you like I wonder if I actually really hate
Speaker 1: the conversation and like, I mean this is more just
Speaker 1: from a relationship perspective, yeah, Like I hate this idea
Speaker 1: that as women you have to keep your man in line.
Speaker 1: And I mean we've had this conversation around Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise when Britt had her experience with Tim, and one
Speaker 1: was sort of messaging on social media being like, you know,
Speaker 1: get your man in line. He should be behaving like this, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, bitch, I've known him for two weeks
Speaker 2: and he's not my man and it's not my job
Speaker 2: to keep It's.
Speaker 1: Not your place. Yeah, And I think, like, you know,
Speaker 1: if a grown man needs to be kept in line
Speaker 1: or be kept accountable to behave correctly, then maybe they're
Speaker 1: not a fully grown exactly. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like, well, a girlfriend is supposed to be
Speaker 1: a partner, he's supposed to be a team. He's supposed
Speaker 1: to be mates. It's not a mother.
Speaker 2: That's what I said to I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: here to mother him if he's my partner and he
Speaker 2: can make his own decisions, and I'll talk to him
Speaker 2: about it later.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly did. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean I watched
Speaker 1: that and I really I kind of I hated that
Speaker 1: that was what was kind of deemed as a necessity
Speaker 1: as a partner, and like, look, I know that everybody
Speaker 1: has different needs and different wants, but like for me,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Like me red Flag.
Speaker 1: I was like brettiant he all over like a hot
Speaker 1: look too soon, Laura, Yeah, no, I think, And I
Speaker 1: think that's why as well, like I was never giving
Speaker 1: Lucky answers that he wanted to hear. For example, Paul
Speaker 1: chat that was me in that pool. We had been
Speaker 1: speaking about our future postbatch for months during lockdown, so
Speaker 1: when the producers were like, hey, guys, maybe talk about
Speaker 1: your future, because we were literally fluffing around in the pool,
Speaker 1: like throwing doing stupid shit under the waters. Can I
Speaker 1: swear even sweat the time we were doing it, like
Speaker 1: we were just having like if you and your boyfriend
Speaker 1: were in a pool. We were just having a laugh,
Speaker 1: having champagne. So when they were like, have a chat
Speaker 1: about your future, and it was like, but we've already
Speaker 1: spoken about everything, so that's why it was like when
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, what do you see in your future?
Speaker 1: And I kind of said to him, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we said that we're going to be in
Speaker 1: Sydney until March and then we'll go from there and
Speaker 1: just get out of this and just normalize again, because
Speaker 1: I think it's been this constant in between filming, filming,
Speaker 1: not filming, dating other women, Like let's just get out
Speaker 1: of this and then we'll figure out everything after. And
Speaker 1: he was constantly saying like he would contradict himself. He'd
Speaker 1: be like, I'm not a planner, so like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to know that, you know, because I
Speaker 1: know that you're a planner. Is like I just want
Speaker 1: to know if we can balance each other out. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like you know, I'm yes, I'm
Speaker 1: a planner. Like I'm not gonna up and leave and
Speaker 1: move to Greece in a week, but give me a
Speaker 1: few weeks and we can make it happen. Or like
Speaker 1: when he was like, where do you see yourself in
Speaker 1: the next three months, and it's like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it depends on you know, are we going to be
Speaker 1: in Sydney, We're going to be in Perth. That's a
Speaker 1: decision we have to make after And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I've already planned out three months and I'm like, but
Speaker 1: you just told me you want a planner. So I
Speaker 1: was just kind of getting confused, and that's why I
Speaker 1: grabbed his face and I was like, Lucky, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I don't care what we do
Speaker 1: after this, as long as we're together, because ultimately, that's
Speaker 1: all I cared about. I don't care if we're sitting
Speaker 1: in on a tent eating sausages over a fire. I
Speaker 1: don't care if we're on the floor or a restaurant.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, let's just do us.
Speaker 1: But that obviously wasn't enough for him, so it was it.
Speaker 2: Was hard to watch, But it's just very obvious now
Speaker 2: watching him back, and once we watched him gaslight you,
Speaker 2: which we'll get to in a minute, once we watch
Speaker 2: the whole thing, I think it's obvious that I think
Speaker 2: he loved you one hundred percent. He was grasping its
Speaker 2: straws to find a reason. He had to find a reason. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're saying he contradicted himself. I remember my finale
Speaker 2: with Nick. He's the same thing. He spent the whole
Speaker 2: time saying, it's crazy how perfect our timelines are. It's
Speaker 2: crazy that everything we want is exactly the same. And
Speaker 2: then at the end his excuse to me was like,
Speaker 2: literally the night before, at midnight, he had said we
Speaker 2: are on exactly the same timeline, that it's crazy. Then
Speaker 2: finale he was like, I just feel like our timelines
Speaker 2: don't match. And I was like, and they cut that,
Speaker 2: so they cut him saying our timeline was perfect, and
Speaker 2: then they're like, our timelines don't match, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why I got frustrated, because I
Speaker 1: was just like, like, that's not you can't. That's when
Speaker 1: I turned around. I was like, you can't put that
Speaker 1: on me, Like, you can't. And I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like he obviously just didn't love
Speaker 1: me enough, which is like my literal standard in every relationship,
Speaker 1: they don't ever love me enough, Like they always end
Speaker 1: up with the girl that comes along. That's more all
Speaker 1: this and all that so I think in that moment
Speaker 1: that's why I was just like, I am not I've
Speaker 1: done that in the past where I'm going to say
Speaker 1: or I've said what i feel like he wants to hear,
Speaker 1: so you know, my previous relationships. But this time I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing that again. If someone's gonna
Speaker 1: love me, they're gonna love me for me. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why I was just like, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what I'm saying to him
Speaker 1: isn't what he wants to hear. Then obviously it's just not.
Speaker 2: When did you realize was there a moment Maybe it
Speaker 2: was in the pool, maybe it wasn't n ttil the
Speaker 2: very end. When was the moment that it clicked where.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's not me. I had a really weird
Speaker 1: feeling that whole day. That whole day of finale, I
Speaker 1: was just like, because even my producer was like, but
Speaker 1: why would he say, Why would he tell you he
Speaker 1: loves you if he's not you know? And I was like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I was like, don't kill me for thinking about this.
Speaker 1: But I am pretty logical in the sense where I
Speaker 1: was like, in a sense of timeline for the episode
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for him to tell me he loved
Speaker 1: me yesterday, Like something doesn't make sense. It's not adding up.
Speaker 1: Either IRENA's already left or he's told her he loves
Speaker 1: her too, and that no one would confirm it with me,
Speaker 1: and no one put that in my head. It was
Speaker 1: just me like I was just something didn't feel right,
Speaker 1: and I think I wasn't letting myself believe it until
Speaker 1: I was in that moment and I was hearing him
Speaker 1: say I love you and there's no one else in
Speaker 1: this but us. So I think for me, once I
Speaker 1: was walking up to him, I kind of just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. A part of me was like, am
Speaker 1: I wigging myself out? Am I trying to like balance
Speaker 1: my expectations? Am I just so? I just I was
Speaker 1: confused that whole day. I was just a mess.
Speaker 2: So walking up to him at the end, there was
Speaker 2: was there still more of you.
Speaker 1: That thought it was you or we? Actually in that
Speaker 1: moment when I was walking up to him, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was like no, I actually thought I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I've just been wigging myself out, because as soon
Speaker 1: as I saw him, I was like, I do love
Speaker 1: this man and like he loves me too, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's fine, and I've just been freaking myself out and
Speaker 1: I was like, it's fine, thing's fine. And then they
Speaker 1: get to him and he starts crying, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? But I think always and like
Speaker 1: the reality of the show and the way that it
Speaker 1: works is that you never feel one hundred percent at
Speaker 1: the end, like I was convinced it wasn't me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I was. And even though Matt, even though he
Speaker 1: wasn't verbal and never affirmed I love you, which I
Speaker 1: think Lockie really took that upon himself, like he really
Speaker 1: broke like the one Bachelor Cardinal's saying, which is like
Speaker 1: they never say I love you. And I said that
Speaker 1: to him. I was like, you went unnecessarily above and beyond.
Speaker 1: There are things that you did not have to say,
Speaker 1: And I said, yes, you had to. You had to
Speaker 1: explore connections, and you had to be in the moment
Speaker 1: with those people. You did not have to tell me
Speaker 1: you loved me and that you want to make me
Speaker 1: had the rest my life. There are things that you
Speaker 1: did not have to do. And I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I kind of just called him out on his
Speaker 1: shit and he probably just didn't like that. So was
Speaker 1: there anything else that happened in that finale day that
Speaker 1: we didn't see? Yeah, and I want to know that,
Speaker 1: got it. I might have like just before turning to
Speaker 1: the cameras and be like, can I leave? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what do you say? Tell me? I looked at him
Speaker 1: and he was I love you and no, like I do,
Speaker 1: and I meant everything I said, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you've got on a tattooed on your chest, mate, And
Speaker 1: that's when I looked at the cameras and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's actually so great, and I was like I looked
Speaker 1: at I looked at the cameras, and I was like,
Speaker 1: can I leave? And I saw like all of the
Speaker 1: crew were like sitting there and like had their hands
Speaker 1: over their face and like a few of them were crying.
Speaker 1: Others were like yes, get a girl, get it. And
Speaker 1: then they were all just like nodding their heads like yeah, leave,
Speaker 1: and I was just like I'm going. He screamed when
Speaker 1: after I walked off, scream He literally screamed at the
Speaker 1: top of his lungs.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 1: And I was like, don't turn around, don't do it,
Speaker 1: just keep walking, keep walking, keep walking, walked, kept walking.
Speaker 1: Saw my producer. She was bowling her eyes out and
Speaker 1: I was like, don't do it until you get in
Speaker 1: the car. In the car closed the door and I
Speaker 1: was like, I just want to go home. And I
Speaker 1: think just like it was a mess everyone who watched that.
Speaker 1: I think like I was a mess. I was crying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was crying. I called you a finale night you
Speaker 1: were kind was crying. It was. But I think like
Speaker 1: I drank a bowl of wine. I drank a triggered
Speaker 1: I drank too. I'm way too pregnant to watch a
Speaker 1: Bachelor finale right now. I need some wine in my life.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, the finales are always emotional.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever been a finale where you
Speaker 1: haven't or that you know, collectively Australia hasn't really banded
Speaker 1: behind the person who's been heartbroken. But I think in
Speaker 1: this instance, because it was taken so far and because
Speaker 1: he really did affirm his feelings for both of you,
Speaker 1: it just took it to a whole new level. And
Speaker 1: it also I don't know if this is a fair
Speaker 1: thing to say, because I kind of I actually really
Speaker 1: feel sorry for Irena Unlockey now, but I think it
Speaker 1: took a shine off their finale because usually I love
Speaker 1: you as never said and then until it's the one
Speaker 1: thing that held and kept kind of sacred for the
Speaker 1: last two people, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: had been said so many times in an episode that
Speaker 1: it had lost its meeting a little bit. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's that one moment as well. Like even when
Speaker 1: I watched you and Matt's finale and when he was
Speaker 1: telling you he loved you, and I bloody started crying
Speaker 1: because I was like, it's so beautil love is so
Speaker 1: nice and I love each other, and I think, like you,
Speaker 1: it's that moment of like that like overwhelming feeling of
Speaker 1: love that everyone ultimately wants to find. So like I
Speaker 1: think in that moment, for me, I was just like,
Speaker 1: That's why I was so confused when he'd said it,
Speaker 1: because I was like, but that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: like at the the end, I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: it felt weird. I do, like I have to admit,
Speaker 1: like I do ultimately like, yes, he's not the person
Speaker 1: for me, but if they're soulmates or if they're in
Speaker 1: love with each other, then like I do genuinely wish
Speaker 1: them happiness. It just I just think he probably should
Speaker 1: have been a little bit more careful with his words.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 2: We need to touch on the fact that it is
Speaker 2: amazing and the Bachelor strikes again. It's a success story.
Speaker 2: They've found love. They look really happy, and I'm so
Speaker 2: no I bet like we can't ignore that. I'm so
Speaker 2: I'm so here for that, But that's what the Bachelor's about. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: every bachelor there's someone that's heartbroken. Do I think that
Speaker 2: Lockie weren't about it the right way? Absolutely not. I
Speaker 2: think he fucked a lot of shit up. I just
Speaker 2: want to touch on something that you just said before
Speaker 2: because it resonated with me. But when you said, no
Speaker 2: one ever loves me as much, I'm as me and
Speaker 2: I'm never good enough for anyone and I'm never the one,
Speaker 2: And I think it's important.
Speaker 3: To know a lot of women feel like that.
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent imagine being the first person ever
Speaker 2: to not get picked at the end. I definitely felt that.
Speaker 2: But it's important for you to know that you are
Speaker 2: one hundred percent enough. You just haven't met you penguin yet,
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It's it's you are enough,
Speaker 2: and you're enough for a million people out there. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: you haven't met that matching soul yet. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really important to know that that it's not it's
Speaker 2: not you personally, and it's just your stars were almost
Speaker 2: aligned and they will one day. But this just this
Speaker 2: is wasn't in unfortunately, hope.
Speaker 1: So and also it's just like it's a breakup on steroids.
Speaker 1: It's a breakup that happens on national TV, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just something that you go through the breakup once
Speaker 1: when it actually happens in real life and then I
Speaker 1: think you all over again. Yeah, you go through it
Speaker 1: a second time when you have to watch it back
Speaker 1: on TV because you see so much more of the
Speaker 1: story the second time around, because obviously you don't see
Speaker 1: what's happening with everybody else. So I think that there's
Speaker 1: closure in that, but there's also another another heartbreak in
Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, And I think as well though,
Speaker 1: like that's the thing, like, yes, it broke my heart,
Speaker 1: but watching it back, I'm like, I want to find
Speaker 1: someone that wants to be with me and knows they
Speaker 1: want to be with me. I don't. I'm sick of
Speaker 1: being with these people that give me all the reassurance
Speaker 1: up until the last minute, and they're like, oh, psych.
Speaker 2: Have you spoken to Lockie since, Like did he ever
Speaker 2: contact you after even just to check in?
Speaker 1: Or no, I don't know. I sent him a message.
Speaker 1: I haven't told anyone that, But yeah, we got breakthrough.
Speaker 1: We got I did send him a message after, just
Speaker 1: to be like, I mean, I was like two days
Speaker 1: after I was dev I was shattered, I was upset,
Speaker 1: I was angry, and it was pretty much just which
Speaker 1: it was a pretty angry text to be honest, I.
Speaker 3: Was going to say, was it like I love you,
Speaker 3: missy or was it like fun?
Speaker 1: No, So the first part was like, like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I've lost my best friend, not just my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Was a relationship for me. I think something that I
Speaker 1: actually read it on somebody who put it on their
Speaker 1: stories and they had kind of encapsulated it really really well.
Speaker 1: And it's this idea that like, it's a very reckless
Speaker 1: way to treat someone who you have feelings for, and
Speaker 1: it's very impulsive to tell someone I love you, but
Speaker 1: knowing that the next day you have to make a decision,
Speaker 1: even if on that day you haven't decided. Let's give
Speaker 1: Lachlan the benefit of the dart that he didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was going to pick. The fact that you
Speaker 1: are reckless in the moment with your words and gives
Speaker 1: so much validation and reassurance to someone only sets the
Speaker 1: bar so much higher for that level of heartbreak. It
Speaker 1: only puts them so much further down down that rabbit
Speaker 1: hole of thinking and feeling confident and feeling in directed
Speaker 1: and feeling loved that I think it was a really
Speaker 1: reckless way of going about the finale, and I think
Speaker 1: that that's why everyone was so angry, and everyone has
Speaker 1: beanned behind you to support you, because it was incredibly
Speaker 1: devastating to watch. Yeah, and I'm been like, I've been
Speaker 1: so overwhelmed with the love that I've been getting, And
Speaker 1: obviously there are still those fair few like messages that
Speaker 1: I'm getting that's like, well you deserved it, it's your
Speaker 1: karma for how you treated Arena, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, guys, Like it's it's so unnecessary
Speaker 1: to be doing that kind of stuff, especially on social media,
Speaker 1: when like a couple of weeks ago, it was are
Speaker 1: you Okay? Day, and it's like, well you're so many
Speaker 1: people will put on their stories like check if your
Speaker 1: friends are okay, but they're very quick to comment on
Speaker 1: someone's photo that they don't know who they are and
Speaker 1: judge them off something that happened on TV. So I
Speaker 1: think for me, I was just like all the love
Speaker 1: has just been like, I'm so grateful for it all.
Speaker 1: I mean, social media is a pretty can be a
Speaker 1: pretty dark place, and something that I have realized over
Speaker 1: the years is that we're very negatively geared. So you
Speaker 1: might receive a thousand really nice comments or compliments, or
Speaker 1: you know, you might receive twenty thousand likes photo. That's
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people saying I like this, and then you've
Speaker 1: go with their life the one that one nasty comment
Speaker 1: really just cuts through and it has so much more
Speaker 1: weight in how you value yourself. And that was something
Speaker 1: that took me a really long time after the show
Speaker 1: to get over. Remember that you can't even you can't
Speaker 1: even put a nice comment on my photo without people
Speaker 1: being like how dare you and off like she's one
Speaker 1: of my good mates, but also like I who was it?
Speaker 1: Katy Perry, Katie, I've got a really wise quote for you.
Speaker 1: From Ka Katy Perry, You've dropped it a few times.
Speaker 1: I love it. Though, Katy Perry once said, you know,
Speaker 1: there's two worlds. There's the real world and there's a
Speaker 1: social media world. And social media world is really fucked
Speaker 1: and the real world is really great, and you just
Speaker 1: have to choose which world you want to live in. So,
Speaker 1: if you're going to get your validation from the things
Speaker 1: that people who you don't know say to you online, yeah,
Speaker 1: then your your validation then becomes so instable. Whereas if
Speaker 1: you live your life with the people who love you
Speaker 1: and what you know is true and you know like
Speaker 1: the person who you are, yeah, then I think that
Speaker 1: that's where you find your happiness, and you dip into
Speaker 1: this one every so often whatever you want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just so you know it will it gets better.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So before we jump into putting the rumors to rest,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple of quick questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you still in love with Locke? No, I'm not
Speaker 1: in love with Locke. Obviously, I there a moment, like,
Speaker 1: for example, I thought Friday, I was like, I'm fine,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine, got to dinner with girlfriends, had
Speaker 1: champagne and three minutes later, I was bullwing my eyes up,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't understand because I'm not
Speaker 1: in love with him any anymore. I think I just
Speaker 1: genuinely thought he loved me, like I genuinely thought he
Speaker 1: was in love with me. And I think watching it
Speaker 1: back was a lot. It still hurts, obviously, because it's
Speaker 1: just happened. This is my Literally, it's the first Monday
Speaker 1: of the first week. I feel like I'm finally free.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not in love with him anymore. But
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not like I wish I could
Speaker 1: just like erase it from my memory and wish it
Speaker 1: never happened. But that's just not going to happen.
Speaker 3: So and so, what do you think is the main
Speaker 3: thing that you've taken away?
Speaker 1: Like, what have you learned from experience? I think ultimately,
Speaker 1: trust no one never trust a man again. No. I
Speaker 1: think ultimately I just have to. I think I need
Speaker 1: to trust my instinct a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 1: And just like when I have that gut instinct that's
Speaker 1: telling me something's not right, I need to believe it.
Speaker 1: And I think I've also learned that. I like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I do want someone that
Speaker 1: wants to one hundred percent be with me and isn't
Speaker 1: going to question that. And I think in the past,
Speaker 1: like you, you'd hear that and you'd think, like, isn't
Speaker 1: that pretty obvious? But no, I think it's like for me,
Speaker 1: it's even more just solidified now. I'm just like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to take shit when people are just giving
Speaker 1: me reassurance if their actions don't match up.
Speaker 3: So I would have.
Speaker 2: Thought the hardest part would be hearing that your stepdad's
Speaker 2: hotter than the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so gross. Okay, well, let's finally,
Speaker 1: before we do a round up and a wrap up,
Speaker 1: let's put some of the big rumors to rest that
Speaker 1: have been circulating. I'm going to kick this one. How
Speaker 1: long do you have We'll just media can be harsh
Speaker 1: and fierce, and we know it. We've been at the
Speaker 1: receiving end of a lot of shit rumors from time
Speaker 1: to time. But I do feel like there's been a
Speaker 1: lot that's been circulating around you during filming, well, sorry,
Speaker 1: during when the show was on air. So number one,
Speaker 1: did you know Locky before filming? No? No, I like, unfortunately, sorry, Lockie,
Speaker 1: this obviously isn't going to help his ego. But I
Speaker 1: had no idea who he was. Never watched Survivor, never
Speaker 1: heard of him, never nothing, So I actually didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was either.
Speaker 3: I don't know who Nick was either.
Speaker 1: I remember coming out of the limo and I was like, oh, yeah, tall,
Speaker 1: dark handserman. I was like, a bit old, isn't he
Speaker 1: because he's older, Like he's not like young, And I
Speaker 1: remember getting I should have said that.
Speaker 2: I could have a limo because I've never seen Nick never.
Speaker 2: I've never watched him of football in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what kind he plays. I remember
Speaker 2: looking at him and being like, who is this guy
Speaker 2: with a cauliflower on his head?
Speaker 3: Because he's I thought he looked like a cauliflower from
Speaker 3: and he said.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, what is that?
Speaker 3: Is that a giant coulieflower man?
Speaker 1: Confused? Okay, can we stop shaming what sorry look like?
Speaker 1: For one second?
Speaker 3: I then thought he was so hot, But yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't know him, so I.
Speaker 1: Want to do on that. But like, let's just like
Speaker 1: reiterate not that old is a bad thing. I'm here
Speaker 1: for a silver fox, Like, oh, like, look at that
Speaker 1: he's a man like he was more like like an
Speaker 1: actual man like that guy's gonna get some math rider
Speaker 1: spending to kiss me. Yeah, I hope you got a
Speaker 1: good back boy. All right. Question number two, are you
Speaker 1: a paid actress? Have you ever acted before? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I have never tried to act. I've never done an
Speaker 1: acting lesson. I've never been paid to. Like, I like,
Speaker 1: can't you tell when people are like, oh, she's obviously
Speaker 1: really bad at acting? Yeah, because I'm not acting. Who
Speaker 1: can't wait to see you on neighbors? He was, God, Yes, sorry,
Speaker 1: apparently I want to follow in San Frost's footsteps. Doesn't
Speaker 1: she's very successful?
Speaker 2: But also no, I did read though that you you're
Speaker 2: apparently and this is what I'm reading. Guys, your old
Speaker 2: agent came out saying you were. He was trying to
Speaker 2: get you to La. You moved to La to act.
Speaker 1: I had no idea who that guy is, Like, I
Speaker 1: genuinely I had to look into him because I was like,
Speaker 1: who the hell is mic? Like, I never had a
Speaker 1: male manager in my life. Turns out he's the angry
Speaker 1: ex of my the girl that used to manage me
Speaker 1: on my social media a couple of years ago I've
Speaker 1: only ever had one manager, and her name was Alice,
Speaker 1: and she was like helping me with like getting jobs
Speaker 1: on my social media at one point, because I am
Speaker 1: a freelance creative, so a lot of what I do
Speaker 1: is create photos and content for this is a fancy
Speaker 1: word for doing influence. Okay, guys, I've been an influencer
Speaker 1: for like four years.
Speaker 3: Don't worry.
Speaker 1: We do some influencing stuff as well. Are you not influence?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But like, basically I called her and I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this guy? Because when I googled him, she
Speaker 1: came up, So that's how I made the connection. Basically,
Speaker 1: she was like, he's my ex and I broke up
Speaker 1: with him like a little while ago, and he's just
Speaker 1: sour and like She's like, I literally don't know where
Speaker 1: he's getting any of this stuff from because I never
Speaker 1: moved to La. I'd actually dropped her like probably about
Speaker 1: a year and a half to two years before that,
Speaker 1: and I think even in his quote or whatever, he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, no, she's been she's still been
Speaker 1: getting work with us this year, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: who are you? Like, I mean, they all come out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork, don't They were there three seconds of fame. Okay,
Speaker 1: So after you moved to La to pursue your acting career,
Speaker 1: is that where you were dating Cody Simpson. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's the other rumor honestly, so I know, I okay
Speaker 1: might have had a thing with Cody. Like one night, long, long,
Speaker 1: long time ago. I was at a bar for Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day because my ex had just recently broken up with me,
Speaker 1: and my girlfriends were like, that's it, It's Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: We're going out for a few drinks. And this really
Speaker 1: cute blonde brought me a rose. Don't even yet it
Speaker 1: was I have a thing with roses. They just keep
Speaker 1: coming up in my life. So yeah, he bought me
Speaker 1: a rose and then slow dance with me around Mississippi
Speaker 1: and Double Bay and it was just like once. It
Speaker 1: was like one of those things where you're like, this
Speaker 1: is really cute and I was like, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: And then that was literally we ended up like staying
Speaker 1: like we were. Literally that was it. It was just
Speaker 1: that one night.
Speaker 2: So he had a sleepover, slumber fighting pillow fight.
Speaker 1: We had an adult cuttle pillow fight. No, but it
Speaker 1: was literally that was it. And then this whole thing
Speaker 1: about knowing each other having a fling in La, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been to La once for a week.
Speaker 3: Do you guys follow each other on Instagram?
Speaker 1: No? So maybe he's broken up with Miley? Maybebe Do
Speaker 1: you have a contract with Channel ten that guaranteed you
Speaker 1: to the final two? No? I'm gonna call bullshit on
Speaker 1: this one as well, because, like I know obviously Britain,
Speaker 1: I know how contracts work with like literal tires and everything.
Speaker 1: They're never going to guarantee someone to the final two
Speaker 1: who has no acting experience. And can I just say
Speaker 1: I literally can't win because the first two weeks of
Speaker 1: the show coming out, apparently I had a pre organized
Speaker 1: pact with Lockie and I had a contract that meant
Speaker 1: I was going to be with him until the end,
Speaker 1: and one of the girls in the house apparently said
Speaker 1: that I told everyone that didn't happen, But now the
Speaker 1: end of it, I've got a contract that says a
Speaker 1: runner up. So I can't win either way.
Speaker 3: Oh no, You'll never win.
Speaker 1: Literally literally got way too soona, Wow, Okay, sorry, I
Speaker 1: thought you have some solo that wound guys. It was
Speaker 1: funny in my head. Are you back on Tinder. No,
Speaker 1: I've actually never had Tinder. I've never had Tinder. You haven't.
Speaker 1: I've never had bumble.
Speaker 3: It's the greatest experience of your life, that bumble.
Speaker 1: I am No, I did. I've been told about that
Speaker 1: rumor this morning, and I know not me so sorry
Speaker 1: if my fake Tinder has been talking to anyone.
Speaker 2: But you'll get heaps of fake profiles. My fake Tinder
Speaker 2: talks to everyone they go to town, So yeah.
Speaker 3: You'll get that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully she's doing it right for herself at least. So
Speaker 1: I have a fake Tinder profile. Her name is MICHAELA.
Speaker 1: But it's all my photos, and Mikayla likes jazz, burl s,
Speaker 1: chancing and anal sex. Hell yeah, she would be killing
Speaker 1: it on there. Yes, she sounds like a good time. Well.
Speaker 2: The last question we want to know is we've seen
Speaker 2: some photos recently with a lovely young man named Nathan.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know if this is right. Favreau favo.
Speaker 1: He's also a bachelor boy. He's expatchy. We've seen some
Speaker 1: picks attractive man.
Speaker 3: Are you seeing him dating him? Sleepover in with.
Speaker 1: Him, adult cuddles. No, we aren't dating. We're not in
Speaker 1: a relationship. But yeah he is. She's flushy. You can
Speaker 1: phone a friend and get out of this one if you.
Speaker 3: Want, Dude, don't give her an out. There is no
Speaker 3: phone friend.
Speaker 1: She's like Laura and you just throw me into the
Speaker 1: fucking bus. No. Look, I think I'm just like I'm
Speaker 1: open to things happening. But he has been such a
Speaker 1: good egg. He's a sweetheart. He's been helping me through
Speaker 1: a lot of shit the last couple months. So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we aren't in a relationship. Shut up, Brittany. I'm just
Speaker 1: watching you squirm and I'm like I jump in. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I haven't moved this whole time, and now I'm like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like Brittany's just jealous because she's
Speaker 1: not getting any at the moment.
Speaker 3: Don't worry we talk about someone going too far.
Speaker 1: Orbella on that. You have literally answered every single question
Speaker 1: that we have for you. Unless there's anything else that
Speaker 1: you want to drop a bomb on us with no nothing,
Speaker 1: I mean until something else comes out tomorrow, there could
Speaker 1: be another room you can come on to defunk it.
Speaker 1: But thank you so much, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming for being your authentic and wonderful self and sharing
Speaker 1: the absolutely crazy experience that it is being on the Batch.
Speaker 1: And also congratulations for like keeping your shit together after
Speaker 1: what was a very brutal back break, at least in
Speaker 1: public anyway, Have I had my shit together? I think
Speaker 1: you've done really well considering considering the rollercoaster that is
Speaker 1: being on the Bachelor. Thank you for like having me
Speaker 1: on and just like being able to let me chat
Speaker 1: and say what has actually been happening through this whole
Speaker 1: wicked experience. So thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so fella. To wrap it up, we always do
Speaker 2: a suck and suite.
Speaker 3: We talk about the highlights and the low lights for
Speaker 3: the week. It can be the craziest, biggest thing. I
Speaker 3: hope it's not yours.
Speaker 2: Just something to do with a bachelor, because that's a
Speaker 2: pretty big thing, but it can be ridiculous too.
Speaker 3: So Laura, do you want to start it?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I hope nothing worse has happened
Speaker 1: in your week. You're like, actually, I have something that
Speaker 1: was way worse than being done on reality TV. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, you need to come. Have you not
Speaker 1: seen the beach shots of me? Like the paparazzi's been
Speaker 1: following me around and they choose the worst top photo. Ah,
Speaker 1: but get used to it. There's some paparaz shots of
Speaker 1: me from when I was pregnant with Marli and I
Speaker 1: was wearing a white bikini and I had laid in
Speaker 1: something that was like a bit dirty without realizing, and
Speaker 1: so it looks like I have my full pubic hair
Speaker 1: on display. Except I don't have pubic care, so it's
Speaker 1: definitely not it. But every single there's like a hundred
Speaker 1: comments on Daily Mail and people like, she really needs
Speaker 1: to sort of a gig.
Speaker 3: Everyone go google that, please, it's worth it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't want know. Instagram, I don't
Speaker 1: even care. Yes, I've got a full train track of
Speaker 1: pubic hair. So anytime you feel bad about your paparazzi shots,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you meet. Yeah. So my suck for
Speaker 1: the week is that my child is now possessed. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happened. I think I'm attributing it to
Speaker 1: daycare and like change of routine, literally suck and sweet.
Speaker 1: I talk about Malley's daycare every single week. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're doing a great job, but she's come home possessed
Speaker 1: and she won't let me put her down, she won't
Speaker 1: stop screaming. She had her first full toddler tantrum yesterday
Speaker 1: where she lay on the ground on her back, kicking
Speaker 1: and screaming her arms because she couldn't find a puzzle
Speaker 1: piece that she wanted. Yeah, it's like it was intense.
Speaker 1: I walked outside. I was like, girlfriend, you need to
Speaker 1: sort your ship and busty, you've got this watcher and
Speaker 1: so I took it a daycare this morning at seven
Speaker 1: thirty because I was like, somebody else needs to parent
Speaker 1: my child. So that has been my suck and my
Speaker 1: sweep for the week is that on Saturday night, I
Speaker 1: got to go out for dinner for my girlfriend's birthday
Speaker 1: and I escaped. I just escaped. It was so nice.
Speaker 1: That sounds really lame, but for any mum's out there
Speaker 1: will know what a big deal that is. I got
Speaker 1: to get away from Matt that come to get away
Speaker 1: from Malie, and I went out and had a really
Speaker 1: beautiful dinner. So that was my that's my sweet. You
Speaker 1: deserve a one, Yes I do, but I didn't have one.
Speaker 1: But I did deserve one, Thank god, you deserve one.
Speaker 1: In three months, three and a half months and a
Speaker 1: half months. This baby's coming so soon. It's actually scares
Speaker 1: the pants off me. All right, Grinnie, what is your suck?
Speaker 1: My suck?
Speaker 2: Is that For some weird reason this weekend, I've had
Speaker 2: chronic fatigue. Came out of no hit me like a bus,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't even walk in the door. I have
Speaker 2: slept all day and I can't even sleep in the day.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, we sound very dramatic on this.
Speaker 1: I had chronic fatigue diagnosed. She was tired.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm actually diagnosed with something called neutropenia, which
Speaker 2: is where you don't have enough white blood cells aka
Speaker 2: meaning you can't fight an infection.
Speaker 3: So it gives me chronic fatigue.
Speaker 2: So when my white blood cells drop, you physically couldn't
Speaker 2: give me million dollars to keep my eyes open.
Speaker 3: So that's what it is. So lowld, joke's on you,
Speaker 3: sweet fucking mic Drop.
Speaker 1: I love how funny you think you are.
Speaker 3: My sweet would probably be. I just came over this
Speaker 3: morning and Laura gave me a log.
Speaker 1: Of that sound is so bros. Laura gave me a.
Speaker 3: Log of my favorite girl.
Speaker 1: Where do I get one of those?
Speaker 2: A lot of my favorite cookie does from Bennett Street Dairy.
Speaker 2: It's like this famous cookie dough. All right, ella, you
Speaker 2: may have one too. I've got two logs in the freezer.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's logged up. She's long, she's logged up.
Speaker 2: So that was my sweet. And that hasn't even happened yet, Like,
Speaker 2: I haven't even eaten it. Fella, what is your son
Speaker 2: just being dumped on TV? Yes, to like relive being dumb,
Speaker 2: you're basically being dumped twice. But I mean, aside from
Speaker 2: being dumped on TV, I mean.
Speaker 3: I feel like that wins.
Speaker 1: So does that win? Yeah? Okay? What was your sweet
Speaker 1: for the week? For someone who's had so many lows?
Speaker 1: What is it like now that you finally have your
Speaker 1: life back? Honestly, I feel invigorated. But Friday night, I
Speaker 1: guess Friday night would have to be my sweet because
Speaker 1: I went out to a restaurant and just so happened
Speaker 1: that the owner of the restaurant recognized and had actually
Speaker 1: watched me getting my heart broken on TV. So he
Speaker 1: gave us a really nice bottle of champagne and a
Speaker 1: couple of shots, and yeah, it was yeah. And then
Speaker 1: he also gave me a really bad hangover the next day,
Speaker 1: but don't hold it against him. Yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: so sweet because he was just like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just he was like, I'm sure you get this a lot,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, I'm assuming this is your first
Speaker 1: night out and blah blah bla. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's really sweet because he was like, you know, he
Speaker 1: was he was like, I'm Greek and my son, my
Speaker 1: son is single, and I was like classic Greek. But
Speaker 1: it was really it was. It was one of those
Speaker 1: moments where I was like, Okay, like it's not all bad,
Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's agrateful.
Speaker 3: Only get better from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really nice. So yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: if you ask me what my sweet is later this week,
Speaker 1: i'd have to say coming on Life on Cut. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get her to say that, of course,
Speaker 1: it is, of course, Well thanks so much getting cookie
Speaker 1: dough logs. Yeah, yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 3: I bribed.
Speaker 1: I bribed both of them with cookie dough logs. Coom
Speaker 1: do logs with cookie dough with a log with a
Speaker 1: log not a man anyway, Fella, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. We love you. We're so
Speaker 1: happy that you are free. I mean, I wish I
Speaker 1: could say that we're so happy that you're happy in love,
Speaker 1: but we're just happy that you're free and that you're
Speaker 1: able to now like live your life in a very
Speaker 1: authentic way and you can talk about everything and just
Speaker 1: can be you again, which is something that I know
Speaker 1: you really you really missed for that period when you
Speaker 1: are in still yeah, furgetry a feeling. Well, guys, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening to another episode of Life Uncut.
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Speaker 2: you don't, tell your cat, Tell everyone not to go
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Speaker 1: That's so cute. I love