WEBVTT - Skye Wheatley Slammed For Promoting ‘Collarium’ Sunbeds, Mikaela Testa Detained in US & Ruby Tuesday Matthew’s Designer Baby Haul

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, Sky Wheatley slammed through promoting Calarium Sunbeds

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<v Speaker 1>only fans. Creator Mikayla Tester is detained by US Border Forces,

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby Tuesday, Matthews designer Baby Haul, and why Bet Judd

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wine in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Torbert and I was really surprised over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to find out how Jardey Tunci and Steph Claire Smith met.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always assumed that they met on a brand trip. However,

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<v Speaker 1>jar Day has revealed that she fanned girl Steph Claire

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<v Speaker 1>Smith on a photo shoot before they became friends. I

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<v Speaker 1>was even more surprised to find out that Jarday was

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<v Speaker 1>actually working as a social media manager for a fast

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<v Speaker 1>fashion brand on this photo shoot, so it was her

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<v Speaker 1>job to take content of Steph, and jar Day basically

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<v Speaker 1>went up to Stephan straight out said that she loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bold move to actually go up and tell

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that you love them. I've been in those situations

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<v Speaker 1>at work where we've been on photo shoots and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been people there with a high profile, and my go

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<v Speaker 1>to is to act like I don't know who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think isn't the best move after hearing this,

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<v Speaker 1>because you almost don't want to make yourself look like

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<v Speaker 1>a loser and beneath them. But if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoot and it's with a well known person, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty obvious that everyone knows who they are. You always

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<v Speaker 1>freeze Sophie that I do. It might be these people

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<v Speaker 1>that Sophia would probably get along with so well and

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<v Speaker 1>that you really admire, but you just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to say. But the thing is, this would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago and Steph probably wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>huge name that she is now. She would have just

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<v Speaker 1>been an influencer. So I think in those situations you

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<v Speaker 1>could legitimately pretend that you don't know who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be my go to, because I never

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<v Speaker 1>think that this person is going to want to be

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<v Speaker 1>my friend if there's an power imbalance there. But even

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<v Speaker 1>I think you don't pretend that you don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>they are, but actually going up and fangirling as different

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<v Speaker 1>like you can act as if you know who the

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<v Speaker 1>person is and you've got admiration for them, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't go, oh my, I effing love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>If you say I really respect what you do and

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<v Speaker 1>I've followed you from Afar and it's really nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they became friends after this shoot

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<v Speaker 1>or they only became friends when jar Day became an influencer? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she actually explained that they were on several shoots together

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<v Speaker 1>before deciding to actually meet up outside of work, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the friendship blossomed. So there was a power

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<v Speaker 1>and balance there. I do wonder though, Steph Glear Smith

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<v Speaker 1>has spoken a lot about how she was friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift when she was living in New York, so

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<v Speaker 1>Steph would have been on the other side of this

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<v Speaker 1>type of relationship, and I suppose that might be why

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<v Speaker 1>she agreed to be friends with jar Day. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if Steph provided jar Day with any pointers about how

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<v Speaker 1>to build her influencer following or perhaps start a business,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like her career really came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps it was like that Shaney, Grimm and Click where

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<v Speaker 1>Lily Brown suddenly befriended Shana and then her Instagram took off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's probably that background person. Everyone's like, who is that

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<v Speaker 1>girl that's friends with Steph?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It just feel like it's such a massive call to

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<v Speaker 4>say to someone with the following, like all the people

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<v Speaker 4>who are following you are your responsibility. Like that just

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<v Speaker 4>wigs me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky Wheatley has caused outraged after promoting the use of

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<v Speaker 1>colarium sun beds on her Instagram. The twenty nine year

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<v Speaker 1>old hit back at her critics, saying she shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable for what her followers choose to do, so.

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<v Speaker 2>What's gone down?

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday night, Sky Wheatley took her followers along for

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<v Speaker 1>her appointment at Gold Coast tanning clinic Body Bronze and

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<v Speaker 1>followers were shocked when she posted a video of a

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<v Speaker 1>sun bed with its bright purple light on and wrote

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<v Speaker 1>found a calarium. Now I have never heard of a

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<v Speaker 1>calarium until now. I assumed it was a typo. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem to have recently emerged on the market, so

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<v Speaker 1>Sky wrote it looks like a solly, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>For those not following along. That is the short term

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<v Speaker 1>for solarium so the commercial use of solariums was banned

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia in twenty fifteen due to the risk of

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<v Speaker 1>melanoma in its users. Disturbingly, though, they can still be

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<v Speaker 1>purchased for private use. Before I read out the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of Sky's quote, I want to preface that what she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote has no factual basis and is incredibly dangerous. So

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote, the calarium has red light therapy with zero

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<v Speaker 1>point eight percent UV, so you won't burn, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a safer alternative to sun baking. Naturally, it improves sleep

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<v Speaker 1>and helps with collagen and elastin for overall good skin health. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky's sun forest was also in the room with her

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<v Speaker 1>whilst the sun bed was on and emitting the light.

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<v Speaker 1>She also shared a subsequent photo of herself standing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the calarium with her pants pulled down and

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<v Speaker 1>she was wearing Brazilian cut undies to show off her

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<v Speaker 1>tan marks from the colarium, and she was looking incredibly bronzed.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote, I wasn't expecting to get any color at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mainly wanted to improve my sleep. Apparently it helps

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<v Speaker 1>with that. He here, so we keep you posted. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually wanted to buy one for myself, so I'm already sold.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually makes me feel so so sick and really

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off. We have seen an influx of influencers sharing

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<v Speaker 1>their tan lines, and I feel like it is slowly

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<v Speaker 1>creeping back into our culture. The absolute joke that Sky

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that she's actually using it for her sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing is called a kolarium. It's playing

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<v Speaker 1>off the word solarium.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know what people are using it for.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also visiting a tanning salon to get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy for a second that this is used

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<v Speaker 1>for sleep, because she has such a long documented obsession

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<v Speaker 1>with tanning. So when she started her YouTube channel, she

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<v Speaker 1>would share videos of her excessively tanning with oil, and

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, she caused outrage when she told her

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<v Speaker 1>followers that she wished she was a naturally tanned Aboriginal.

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<v Speaker 1>After apologizing for having streaky tanned hands, she added that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't mean for the comments to sound racist and asked,

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<v Speaker 1>was that racist. I'm not a racist person, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>actually dated an Aboriginal guy and I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>Aboriginal in my blood or just some type of anything

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you brown. I don't even know where we

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<v Speaker 1>go from those comments because they are so appalling. She

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<v Speaker 1>has also continue to share videos and photos of her

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<v Speaker 1>self tanning throughout the years, but says it's okay because

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<v Speaker 1>she has sun cream on. Do you think that Sky

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<v Speaker 1>is so foolish that she actually believes there are health

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<v Speaker 1>benefits to this calarium and she thinks that she's actually

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<v Speaker 1>helping her followers by telling them about this. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly a paid partnership, and that she wants this

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<v Speaker 1>calarium tanning machine for herself. I am really sick of

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<v Speaker 1>Sky getting off scott free by saying, oh, maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand. I mean, I think in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had enough education, particularly in schools, to know how

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous the sun is. Well. Following Sky's post of the calarium,

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<v Speaker 1>she did receive widespread backlash. One user wrote, you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>do not understand how skin cancer is caused. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no level of a safe tan Another said, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>just sharing what you do. There are so many impressional

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<v Speaker 1>people that you were reaching. So Sky responded to the

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<v Speaker 1>hate in a nine minute rant, saying she isn't responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for the choices her followers make and shouldn't be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a snippet of what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, to hold people accountable for what other people do

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<v Speaker 3>in their life, that's got to fucking stop. Like absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>not Like I don't agree with that, I agree with

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<v Speaker 3>what some people have said and the dangers of skin cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But holding people accountable online for other people's

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<v Speaker 3>wellbeing and lives and stuff like that, Like, no, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna draw the line there, like I'm really drawing

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. In no way, shape or fucking form, am

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<v Speaker 4>I holding a gun to someone's head saying you must

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<v Speaker 4>do as I do.

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<v Speaker 5>You must speak as I speak, you must breathe as

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<v Speaker 5>I breathe, you must live as I live. Like, That's

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<v Speaker 5>not what I'm doing, And I'm not trying to force

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<v Speaker 5>people to do what I'm doing. I'm simply sharing what

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<v Speaker 5>I like to do. I understand that young teenage girls

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<v Speaker 5>get the impression that if they do what I do,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna look like me or whatever, Like I understand that,

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<v Speaker 5>so it, But I'm not your mother.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not your mother. I do not have responsibility over

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<v Speaker 4>what you do in your life. I'm sorry, Like I love,

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<v Speaker 4>I love and care for you guys, and I genuinely

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<v Speaker 4>like I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>All like a mother. But I did not fucking birth

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<v Speaker 3>six hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You have responsibility. As soon as you take

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<v Speaker 1>a paycheck. As an influencer, you are a role model.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know why she is a role model.

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<v Speaker 1>She has so many followers, and I'm surprised they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>dropped off. But her job is an influencer. As the

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<v Speaker 1>name suggests, she influences people, right or wrong. She even

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged in that rant that young women want to follow

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<v Speaker 1>her beauty routine so that they can look like her,

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<v Speaker 1>so she is aware of the influence that she has.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference is that she only wants the influence when

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<v Speaker 1>it's good. So she wants the influence when she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to flog off her own products or trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>a brand sponsored post. But she doesn't want the influence

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<v Speaker 1>when she has to stop doing things that she literally

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go out and do herself. Don't partner with

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<v Speaker 1>this colarium company, then if you don't want that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear whether she did partner with the company, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was no you know hashtag gifted or anything, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she could have got a freebie from there.

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<v Speaker 1>And also talk about shifting the blame to your followers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, half of her following probably didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what a qularium was until she posted the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also.

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<v Speaker 1>She's saying, oh, I wasn't telling people what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was literally outlining all the supposed benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>this product.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no way that that was an organic post,

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<v Speaker 1>like she was getting something out of it. She also

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<v Speaker 1>finished the rant by saying that the more people who

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<v Speaker 1>hate her, the better.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what she said, I personally would rather follow someone

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<v Speaker 6>who is genuine and authentic to themselves rather than someone

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<v Speaker 6>who's trying so hard to get everyone to like them.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you know what, guys, the more people that.

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<v Speaker 8>Hate me the fucking better, because it shows how organic

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<v Speaker 8>and authentic I'm being to myself.

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<v Speaker 4>And I fucking love that my followers don't drop tonight.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to be concerned because I am so authentic

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<v Speaker 8>and true to myself that if people ain't hated on me,

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<v Speaker 8>it's a fucking concern. That's what's up. Peace out to

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<v Speaker 8>get sushi after Jim and live my fucking amazing life

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<v Speaker 8>that I built and I love.

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<v Speaker 1>So much that I don't have the time to troll.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that's so depressing about that comment is it's

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<v Speaker 1>so true because influencers only stay relevant when they are controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been involved in so many controversies and still

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<v Speaker 1>has so many followers, remains relevant, still gets brand deals.

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<v Speaker 1>Away from this circus, let's get into some of the

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<v Speaker 1>actual facts. So, Body Bronze is a tanning salon on

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<v Speaker 1>the Gold Coast and the business doesn't appear to have

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<v Speaker 1>a website. They did have an Instagram account, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer showing up under the same handle. Following

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<v Speaker 1>all of this backlash that I would presume was directed

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<v Speaker 1>to their page by sky So before the business owner

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<v Speaker 1>chose to shut down the account, they wrote on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>just a friendly reminder that Body Bronze does not sell sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>We sell lotion. The use of the calarium is free

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<v Speaker 1>and at your own discretion. If this is something you

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<v Speaker 1>were interested in, then please DM me. If not, continue

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<v Speaker 1>to fake ten Now this statement made my blood boil.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a deceptive practice because commercial use of

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<v Speaker 1>sun beds as I mentioned, has been banned in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>However, it is still legal.

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<v Speaker 1>To own one in your home as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>don't charge anyone for the use of it. So what

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<v Speaker 1>Body Bronze appears to be doing here is working under

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<v Speaker 1>a loophole. So they won't charge you for the use

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<v Speaker 1>of the clarium, but they'll charge you for the lotion,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a ton for that lotion too, because legally it

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<v Speaker 1>means that they don't get in trouble for operating the calarium.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like back in the day when it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be illegal to sell pet rabbits and used to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a little starter kit of you know, carrots and letters

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'd throw in a rabbit. Yeah, not as dangerous, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not as cute. It actually makes me feel ill that

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<v Speaker 1>tanning salons are operating in this way. It's actually so

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<v Speaker 1>appalling that this is able to happen, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a good thing almost that Sky Wheatley has brought

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<v Speaker 1>this to the public attention, because I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people online who didn't know about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe through people power we can actually get this

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<v Speaker 1>loophole eradicated. Well, I don't even know why they still

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<v Speaker 1>sell sun beds if they're that dangerous. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>argument would be, oh, well, people can still burn themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in the sun, but you burn yourself at much more

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<v Speaker 1>of a rapid pace in a celario. It's literally like saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't sell guns, We just sell the bullets. We

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<v Speaker 1>loan out some guns and you can just go and

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<v Speaker 1>use them. It's even more disturbing to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at how these calariums are being falsely advertised as something

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<v Speaker 1>that helps you boost collagen and also is a safe

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<v Speaker 1>way to tan, because it couldn't be further from the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>So a local dermal therapist by the name of Jordan Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a bachelott of dermal science and she has

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<v Speaker 1>been warning about these colariums for some time now. She wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>there has been a new development in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>sun beds with the emergence of colariums, which are a

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<v Speaker 1>play on collagen and solarium. So Jordan said that colariums

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<v Speaker 1>are being marketed as a safe way to tan and

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<v Speaker 1>claims are being made that they stimulate collagen whilst providing

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<v Speaker 1>a tan through uva radiation without the burning effects of UVB.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, the harsh truth is that there is no

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<v Speaker 1>way to safely tan, so whether you're exposed to UVA

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<v Speaker 1>or UVB, you were always at risk of developing skin

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<v Speaker 1>cancers and effects of premature aging due to uv damage.

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<v Speaker 1>She also said the irony is that the beds claim

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<v Speaker 1>to stimulate collagen, when in actual fact, the UVA exposure

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<v Speaker 1>which you get in these beds actually breaks down collagen.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you use these, your skin is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to age faster. Yeah, I was really shocked when I

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<v Speaker 1>heard the term UVA thrown around because when I met

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<v Speaker 1>with my dermatologists last year, she was talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>suncream I should use because I have a lot of pigmentation,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was saying that a lot of people focus

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<v Speaker 1>on UVB because it's what is around when it's really hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the UVB.

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<v Speaker 2>From the sun. However, UVA is around all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and in winter, and it's something that really ages

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<v Speaker 1>your skin and pigments it. So it just cracks me

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<v Speaker 1>up that they're trying to push it as this new

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<v Speaker 1>beauty treatment when an actual fact is aging your skin

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<v Speaker 1>and causing pigmentation.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a bit of.

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<v Speaker 1>Confusion with consumers because we've seen so much about red

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<v Speaker 1>light saunas and how different light therapy can help the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people are actually confused by these colariomses?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's a part of the marketing spin.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to confuse people, and they're trying to say, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually get tanned and it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>damage your skin. And they're also using so many loopholes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that people who are listening they should

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<v Speaker 1>think to themselves next time they go to a tanning

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<v Speaker 1>salon or to get a cosmetic procedure done, if this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't quite sound right, why am I not being charged

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<v Speaker 1>for something? Maybe they should do a bit more research

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And also the fact is that when you

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<v Speaker 1>have signs of a tan on your skin, that is

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<v Speaker 1>because your skin cells are in trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's obviously doing the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing that a selarium does well, particularly when she

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<v Speaker 1>had such evident tan lines after using this thing supposedly once.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes me so incredibly mad, And I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that this conversation does generate a bit more awareness of

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening at the moment, particularly after all the work

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<v Speaker 1>that Sun Safety advocate Natalie Furnasia has done to raise

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<v Speaker 1>awareness of melanoma. It just makes me feel so sick

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<v Speaker 1>to my stomach that this is going on. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to stay educated on these matters, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that the younger generation who were impression will also

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<v Speaker 1>knows the truth.

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<v Speaker 8>We've all started when we got off the plane.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, thank you, Peter. It all started when we got

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<v Speaker 7>off the plane and discovered that the fly Low Hotel

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<v Speaker 7>complex hadn't been built yet. It was just a mound

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<v Speaker 7>of earth well, and that was our first disappointment. But

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<v Speaker 7>we thought, ho hum, let's get on with it, and

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<v Speaker 7>we dug a hole in the ground and stayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>TikToker and OnlyFans creator Mikayla Tester has revealed she was

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<v Speaker 1>detained by US border forces for forty two hours before

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<v Speaker 1>being deported back to Australia. Now it's the second time

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty three year old has been detained in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michayla took to her TikTok to explain exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michayla was actually on her way to Cochella with

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<v Speaker 1>her personal assistant Alisha on the White Fox sponsored trip.

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<v Speaker 1>So after flying twenty hours from Perth to Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>Michaela said she was immediately approached by an American.

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<v Speaker 2>Official and detained.

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<v Speaker 1>She says this was due to an accidental violation of

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<v Speaker 1>her Electronic system for Travel Authorization, which is known as

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<v Speaker 1>an ESTER. So Michayla had listed her employment as self

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<v Speaker 1>employed in the EST instead of listing her job as

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<v Speaker 1>an OnlyFans creator. She explained that she completed the EST

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and thought that self employed was the appropriate title.

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<v Speaker 1>So once detained, Michaela said her devices were seized and

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<v Speaker 1>officers started going through her phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 9>When you're detained, you have no rights.

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<v Speaker 10>They can take any of your they can seize your

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<v Speaker 10>devices forever, they can go through.

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<v Speaker 9>Them, they can take download anything off your phone. You

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<v Speaker 9>have no rights.

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<v Speaker 10>They basically own you and everything when you step foot

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<v Speaker 10>into their country. I hadn't even given any CPP office

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<v Speaker 10>on my phone yet, and they were already asking me

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<v Speaker 10>questions about all of the people that I'm friends with

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<v Speaker 10>in LA and about their business. They were asking me

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<v Speaker 10>about their money, what they do on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 10>just if they do anything illegal, like just questions that like,

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<v Speaker 10>I understand one hundred percent that this is a process

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<v Speaker 10>and this.

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<v Speaker 9>Is how things work and everything.

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<v Speaker 10>And I was just in this room for hours, and

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<v Speaker 10>I was willing to do this because if it meant

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<v Speaker 10>that I was going to be able to get let

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<v Speaker 10>into the US.

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<v Speaker 9>I would do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla was then questioned by officers about who she was

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<v Speaker 1>visiting in the US, about their businesses, their money, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they do anything illegal. The officers then asked Mikayla

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<v Speaker 1>if she had ever collaborated with anyone in the US before,

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<v Speaker 1>and she confirmed that she had not. Just moments later,

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<v Speaker 1>the officer then pulled up a Twitter photo of Mikayla

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<v Speaker 1>topless with a number of girls from the US and

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<v Speaker 1>accused her of lying to her face. Mickayla then explained

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<v Speaker 1>that she had worked with the women, but not on

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<v Speaker 1>US soil. So it was at this moment that Michaela

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<v Speaker 1>then got sent to a secondary holding room where she

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<v Speaker 1>was strip search and left in a room which she

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<v Speaker 1>said look like it belonged in a war movie. She

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<v Speaker 1>said the experience made her feel like a prisoner.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's more of what she said.

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<v Speaker 9>Had to go sit in a room where they have

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<v Speaker 9>a box of tan PACs.

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<v Speaker 10>They have a kettle, they have some cups of noodles,

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<v Speaker 10>and they have these old outbeds.

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<v Speaker 9>It looks like where they hold people like from the war,

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<v Speaker 9>like the enemies. Look that was so that was so

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<v Speaker 9>out of pocket, but like that's literally what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 9>And I was just breaking down.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point, Mikayla assumed she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be deported and banned from the US because she had

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<v Speaker 1>heard stories about other sex workers being banned for twenty years. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is such a sterious story, but I did have

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh because Michayla admitted that she started spiraling at

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of no more American boys. She also said

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<v Speaker 1>she developed Stockholm syndrome for one of the officers who

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<v Speaker 1>was kind and sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 11>I cannot stop thinking about this man. I'm in love

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<v Speaker 11>with him. He was so nice to me, Like just

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<v Speaker 11>seeing him come into the room. I was in there

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<v Speaker 11>for like days, just seeing him come into the room

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<v Speaker 11>calling my name to talk to me and just being

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<v Speaker 11>so kind and sweet.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in love with him, like I was just I

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<v Speaker 9>was just watching the door waiting for him to walk

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<v Speaker 9>in to talk to me. And this happened like ten times.

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<v Speaker 1>It was quite funny because in the comment section on

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<v Speaker 1>this video, one of Mikayla's followers wrote, girl, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>interrogation tactic, him being so nice, to which Michayla responded.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're in love. I can feel it.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>McKayla remained in this room for almost two days before

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<v Speaker 1>she was then deported for violating her Esther NOW officers

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<v Speaker 1>believed she was trying to work in the US.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla found out she was being deported only an hour

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<v Speaker 1>before the flight. And if you're being deported you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to go through the airport like a regular passenger.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be a s it into a car

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<v Speaker 1>onto the tarmac and led by police right to the

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<v Speaker 1>plane door. Can you imagine the person that she was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to, like if you're on a plane seeing

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<v Speaker 1>someone come in like that? Or she actually flew business

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<v Speaker 1>class still because her original flight was in business class

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<v Speaker 1>and the US border people were going to send her

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<v Speaker 1>back economy. But I think she begged this guy that

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<v Speaker 1>she had a crush on to let her fly business

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<v Speaker 1>so they actually did. Do you think that because she

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<v Speaker 1>flew business over there, that they might have flagged her

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<v Speaker 1>as someone of concern, particularly if they're trying to work out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's self employed, how is she affording this? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they have all her information there as well. Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that they're googling her. Oh and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>such salt in the wound for Mikayla because, as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, her personal assistant Alisha, traveled with her to

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<v Speaker 1>Cochella and she was let through whilst Mikayla was detained.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has been sharing so many photos of the

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<v Speaker 1>trip showing the very lavish mansion that the group of

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<v Speaker 1>influencers are staying at, and there was even a TV

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<v Speaker 1>screen welcoming Michayla and Alisha to the accommodation, and she said, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss you.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually reminds me when I was working at the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Six's and we flew over to Singapore to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the Merlin Cup and we were all

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<v Speaker 1>going through customs and one of the players got detained

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<v Speaker 1>because his passport didn't have six months on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he actually got sent home that night. And we felt

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<v Speaker 1>so bad because we're all living it up, sharing on

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<v Speaker 1>our Instagram stories, and the poor thing was on this

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<v Speaker 1>flight back home, well, Alicia.

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<v Speaker 2>Must just be loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>She has about thirteen thousand followers, which I think are

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of Michayla, and they are apparently very

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<v Speaker 1>good friends. But Mikayla does seem to have quite a

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<v Speaker 1>falling out with friends, so I wonder whether this will cause.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not her fault, Yeah, I know, it's not her fault.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to see that she's actually got a real

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<v Speaker 1>PA or one of the fake ones that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if White Fox does hold some responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure the influencers and talent get there safely well,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when White Fox knows she is big on OnlyFans.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't they have said, oh, make sure you feel this

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<v Speaker 1>form in correctly and give a bit of a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because this is the second time, as we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>that Mikayla has been in the US. So in October

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<v Speaker 1>last year, she and a friend were detained for five

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<v Speaker 1>hours and Mikayla, of course did a TikTok video about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and she explained that she made sure that she looked

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<v Speaker 1>really ratchet bad because she knows that US customs are

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<v Speaker 1>really strict, but her friend drew attention for her eyelash

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<v Speaker 1>extensions and, as Mikayla described them, big fat, juicy lips.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of interesting though, because what she's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>saying here is that US Border Control they do profile people,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do have rules regarding sex workers being let

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<v Speaker 1>into the country. So she's obviously making it aware that

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<v Speaker 1>she knows about these rules. So it does seem like

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<v Speaker 1>she probably purposely put that she was self employed. So

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<v Speaker 1>her theory is that if you don't look as glam

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to pick on you. Well, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said that she knew for a fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>thought that she was a sex worker or an escort

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<v Speaker 1>looking to work in the US, but on this occasion

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<v Speaker 1>they were let into the country. The thing is she

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly flagged back then in October as someone of

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<v Speaker 1>interest to check in on next time, so that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>why it happened. Well, this does seem to be an

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<v Speaker 1>issue that is happening again and again, And in March

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<v Speaker 1>of this year, freelance journalist Sophie k Rosa investigated this

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<v Speaker 1>very issue, and she explored why an influx of sex

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<v Speaker 1>workers are being detained by US border agents and the

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<v Speaker 1>article explained that undercurrent laws, any person US border agents

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<v Speaker 1>suspect has sold sex in the last ten years can

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<v Speaker 1>be denied a visa, refused entry, detained, deported, and banned

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<v Speaker 1>from the US for five to ten years. The laws

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<v Speaker 1>are very vague, though, and referred to prostitution and commercialized

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<v Speaker 1>vice and crimes involving moral turpitude. So many of these

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<v Speaker 1>laws are grounded in turn of the twentieth century morality

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<v Speaker 1>and they single out in particular female sex workers as

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<v Speaker 1>a moral and as threats to American marriages and families.

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<v Speaker 1>And once detained, many of these sex workers are subject

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<v Speaker 1>to very intrusive, offensive, and harmful treatment. They asked a

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<v Speaker 1>detail questions about their personal life and work, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also must give up their phones, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>agents tend to take advantage of and troll through for

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<v Speaker 1>free incriminating evidence. And the experience in this article has

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<v Speaker 1>been described by many sex workers as incredibly traumatizing. Many

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<v Speaker 1>said that they felt as though they were being treated

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<v Speaker 1>like a second class citizen and that the work they

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<v Speaker 1>did was perceived as inherently criminal. So the journalists also

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed a member of the United sex Workers trade who

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<v Speaker 1>said that based on stories shared with the Union. They

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<v Speaker 1>believe the border forces are using facial recognition surveillance technology

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<v Speaker 1>to detect sex workers as well as background checks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there is some speculation that some sex worker websites

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<v Speaker 1>might share workers' personal data with the US Now. Others

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<v Speaker 1>also believe that the US has a way of accessing

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<v Speaker 1>this data without websites permission. That's pretty interesting speculation in

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<v Speaker 1>light of the US's problems with TikTok now Away from

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<v Speaker 1>only Fans, I was interested in the concept of whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's legal for influencers to go on brand trips in

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<v Speaker 1>a different country and essentially make money in that country.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lawyer Sidney Wong's as, if a foreign influencer

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<v Speaker 1>visits the US and performs paid marketing work for an

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<v Speaker 1>American business without a work visa, then the influencer will

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<v Speaker 1>have violated US immigration law. Indeed, even a seemingly harmless

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored Instagram post may be a violation. Now, it does

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<v Speaker 1>get very complicated, and of course it depends if an

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<v Speaker 1>influencer has applied for visas or disclosed their work, also

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>which country they're traveling too. In Michayla's case, she was

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<v Speaker 1>being paid by White Fox Boutique, which is an Australian brand.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does get murky because she's essentially promoting an

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<v Speaker 1>American festival. We're assuming that Michaela was paid by White

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<v Speaker 1>Fox to attend Coachella, like a number of the other influencers.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do wonder if this is a gifted arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if a lot of brands do just

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<v Speaker 1>offer gifted trips because then they avoid any of these

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<v Speaker 1>situations where influencers are basically being paid by different countries

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<v Speaker 1>and they avoid any issues with visas. I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>it works for influencers, say Olivia Rodgers recently went to

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<v Speaker 1>Paris and she went there to shoot a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>content in Clo I mean, two different countries. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how it works in that sense when there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a specific brand deal. It's at the discretion of the

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<v Speaker 1>influencer where they shoot their caun. I think with the

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that influencers are making off these sorts

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of trips, I think it will be something that new

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<v Speaker 1>laws need to come into place for.

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<v Speaker 12>So she's wearing this little Fendi dress to the wedding,

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<v Speaker 12>which is I can't even then she has this cute

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<v Speaker 12>little dog jacobarna Onesie that she looks so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>In Ruby Tuesday, Matthews has caused a stir by sharing

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<v Speaker 1>a designer baby clothing hall to Instagram. The Byron Bay

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<v Speaker 1>influencers showed off the expensive outfit she was packing for

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<v Speaker 1>her baby daughter ahead of their holiday to Fiji.

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<v Speaker 2>K can you tell us more?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, many of us are struggling with the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living crisis. Ruby Tuesday Matthews thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea to flaunt her baby daughter's designer wardrobe, so

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<v Speaker 1>she took her followers behind the scenes she packed for

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>her holiday to Fiji. So Ruby is taking her three

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<v Speaker 1>kids along to Fiji to attend a wedding.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby shared she had bought her daughter a Fendy dress

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<v Speaker 1>to wear at the wedding, which costs a staggering nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty one dollars. Just to reminder, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a dress for a baby which they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to grow out of so quickly, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>She went on to show she had also packed adulcy

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<v Speaker 1>in cabanat Wusie that retails at three hundred and forty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>along with two Stella McCartney dresses and a Chloe dress,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of these items costing in the hundreds. The

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<v Speaker 1>kicker was the plain outfit she packed for Little Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>was a white knitted top and leggins, which were sold

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<v Speaker 1>separately but collectively cost one thousand, three hundred and sixty

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>four dollars. It was quite funny because during the clothing haul,

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby exclaimed that her baby daughter had a better wardrobe

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<v Speaker 1>than her and I just wanted to add that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ruby made a.

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<v Speaker 1>Point of saying all the brand names, which she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually add the prices. It was the wonderful Amber from

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<v Speaker 1>Influencer Updates that source those prices. I just can't get

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<v Speaker 1>over the fact that she's purchased a white outfit for

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>her daughter to wear on the plane. That's over one

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. What if that kid vomits all over it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a mum, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>enough about babies that that outfit is going to be

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 1>completely destroyed on that plane journey. I think if she

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to dress her baby in design outfit, that's obviously

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>her business. She's got the money to do so. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit tone deaf to share it at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously going to piss people off who are struggling financially. Well,

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>clearly she's not very good at reading the room, like

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<v Speaker 1>why would you post this in this current economic client.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the excessive flaunting of wealth is not what

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>her followers want to see, and I'd be interested to

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>see if she lost any followers. I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at Social Blade, but it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days for them to update their figures and

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<v Speaker 1>this only happened over the weekend. I wonder if the

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<v Speaker 1>items of clothing were gifted, because it does seem like

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>such a bizarre flex to put out there, and she

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<v Speaker 1>did make an effort to read out all of the

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<v Speaker 1>brand names. It's just not relatable to her audience at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a weird flex, and we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it was gifted because she didn't disclose it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not to say that it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been drinking it for years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to see some identification really makes me feel

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<v Speaker 5>young again.

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<v Speaker 1>Beck Judd was refused service at a bottle oo in

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand because she didn't look old enough. The forty

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<v Speaker 1>year old mother of four and her sister Kate were

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>unable to purchase a bottle of wine because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>produce their IDs to prove they were over eighteen, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell us more so? On Thursday, Beck shared

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<v Speaker 1>a series of Instagram stories about her experience in a

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand bottle shop, and at first she wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>she was excited to try a New Zealand bottle of rose,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in the next slide shared a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>the wine confiscated, so Beck revealed it had been taken

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>from her and her sister because they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>provide ID when they purchased it. She said she told

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the shop assistant that they were actually old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>have eighteen year old children, and later on Beck shared

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a photo of her and Kate posing with the caption

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of underages trying to get a bottle

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of rose. Well, they do look a lot younger than

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<v Speaker 1>they are. It was quite funny because the Daily Mail

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<v Speaker 1>ran with the lead Bet Judd has been left distraught

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>after she was refused to us at a bottle shop.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman turned forty in January. She would have been

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite of distoryer. She would have been thrilled,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's be honest, the whole reason she shared the

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>ordeal was a flex. I remember when I was younger,

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it used to be so mortifying to be idd However,

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm in my thirties, I get a kick

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>out of it if someone asks for It's funny this

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<v Speaker 1>week because a friend of mine also shared on social

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<v Speaker 1>media that he got asked for ID at bottle shop

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's a dad of one. It's offensive as a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>As a guy, I think you always want to look older.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I was actually I think it was last year for

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Dale's birthday. I was trying to buy him a bottle

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of wine and they refused me too, but I luckily

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>had my ID. And it's so funny when the shop

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>assistants really embarrassed. Yeah sorry, it's like, nah, I love it,

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you. It was quite interesting and I'm sure some

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of our New Zealand listeners can confirm. But apparently in

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>New Zealand they're really strict with checking ID. So while

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you can buy alcohol in supermarkets, New Zealand supermarket chain

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Countdown confirmed that they tell their staff to ask anyone

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>for ID that looks younger than thirty. Well that makes

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a bit more sense because I think bet Dudd could

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>pass for thirty.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely younger.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean in Australia you're usually told that you

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have to look over twenty five to be idd And

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>while it's a win for Beck because she is forty,

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not as much of a big win as she

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>may be thought.

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<v Speaker 2>You're taking away of flexk. Look, she looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's all we've got time for today.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back in your ears tomorrow for a subscriber

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<v Speaker 1>world in Australia. We're going to be sharing some juicy

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>details there. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that one.

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