WEBVTT - Why Pauline Hanson wore a burqa (again)

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the twenty sixth of November. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Billy fitz Simon's.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Emma Gillespie.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is the last sitting week for Parliament of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, and it's safe to say it's a more

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic ending than many predicted earlier. This week One Nation

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Pauline Hanson walked into the Upper House wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>black burker. If that sounds familiar, it's because yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>has happened before, eight years ago. So what led to

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<v Speaker 1>this moment that has caused headlines around the world. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what you need to know in today's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Billy, as you mentioned, the last sitting week for

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and it wouldn't be Parliament if we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get some thing unexpected, which has certainly happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of Pauline Hansen. But I think we should probably

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<v Speaker 2>start with a bit of background on this politician, a

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<v Speaker 2>very long serving one, who is Pauline Hanson.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy, Yeah, So for anyone who's not familiar with Pauline Hanson,

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<v Speaker 1>she is the founder and leader of the One Nation Party,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a right wing party in Australia. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a Queensland Senator and she has been a Queensland Senator

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty sixteen. Before that, she was actually elected to

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Reps in nineteen ninety six as an independent,

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<v Speaker 1>but then lost that seat two years later. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's just important context to set the scene that

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<v Speaker 1>she has been around politics for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And even though she lost her seat in the

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<v Speaker 2>House of Reps in nineteen ninety eight, Pauline Hanson is

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<v Speaker 2>really a mainstay of Australian politics, even in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>years when she wasn't in parliament. She unsuccessfully ran for

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<v Speaker 2>a Queensland Senate seat in two thousand and one. Two

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<v Speaker 2>years later she stood for a new South Wales Upper

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<v Speaker 2>House seat but lost. Then she was convicted of electoral fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>She went to prison for that before coming back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen as the leader of One Nation. So she

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<v Speaker 2>has really been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think throughout all of that, Pauline Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>became known particularly for her anti immigration stance. You might

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<v Speaker 1>know this phrase that she said during her maiden speech

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six, she said I believe we are

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<v Speaker 1>in danger of being swamped by Asians. Now that part

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<v Speaker 1>of her speech is now infamous. It is often brought

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<v Speaker 1>up when people are talking about Pauline Hanson and her

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<v Speaker 1>anti immigration stance, and I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 1>that she has continued to share opinions like that that

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<v Speaker 1>have been quite divisive in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she has certainly carved out of place as a

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<v Speaker 2>very divisive figure in Australian politics, although increasingly popular with

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<v Speaker 2>voters in Queensland, it has to be said. And we

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<v Speaker 2>heard those anti immigration sentiments from her early in her

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<v Speaker 2>career about Asian Australians. But I suppose in more recent

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<v Speaker 2>years her focus, if you like, has turned towards Muslim

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<v Speaker 2>immigration people of Islamic faith. And we are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hanson today because she did this stunt in Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday. She walked into the Senate wearing a burker.

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<v Speaker 2>She is not a Muslim woman. So Billy, can you

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<v Speaker 2>give us some context about what led to that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this all happened on Monday afternoon, and like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, it is the last sitting week of Canberra

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<v Speaker 1>this week in terms of how it all unfolded. So

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson tried to introduce a bill to the Senate on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday that would have banned full face coverings, including burker's,

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. Now, the government did not allow for that

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<v Speaker 1>bill to be introduced a little bit of context here. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the first step to anything becoming law in Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>for a bill, which is the proposed legislation to be introduced,

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<v Speaker 1>to be tabled, and then it gets debated by the parliamentarians.

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<v Speaker 1>But the government in this case stopped it from even

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<v Speaker 1>being introduced and therefore stopped any debate on that. Before

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what happens next, I thought I should

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<v Speaker 1>explain why Hanson said that she wanted to introduce that bill.

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<v Speaker 1>So she told reporters on Monday, it is a national

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<v Speaker 1>security issue. This is a direct quote. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>national security issue. It is about women's rights and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of women are forced to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>This, implying that Muslim women who wear burkers are forced

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<v Speaker 2>to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly Now, journalists have repeatedly asked Hanson, both prior to

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<v Speaker 1>this stunt and after, to share the evidence of the

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<v Speaker 1>link between national security threats and women wearing burkers, which

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<v Speaker 1>she's never really quite answered that question. What she did

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<v Speaker 1>say on Monday was again, this is a direct quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This does not belong in Australia, and at least give

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<v Speaker 1>me the opportunity to debate it, and let's have the

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<v Speaker 1>debate on the floor of Parliament because I do represent

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<v Speaker 1>a large proportion of Australians out there who want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the burker band.

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<v Speaker 2>And just quickly, I think it's worth pointing out here, Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>that when we're talking about a burker, there might be

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<v Speaker 2>some confusion of what that is. But this is a

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<v Speaker 2>full body covering that conceals the face of the wearer,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's often a mesh screen for vision. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>also have something like a h jub, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>headscarf that covers the head and the neck but not

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<v Speaker 2>the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and in this specific bill that Pauline Hanson was proposing,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the burker and full face coverings that she

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<v Speaker 1>was proposing to be banned, not the hijub.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Billy, I want to get into the moment that

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hanson arrived in the Senate wearing this burker. But

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<v Speaker 2>first a quick message from today's sponsor before we get

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<v Speaker 2>on with today's deep dive. Billy Pauline Hanson wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>table this bill. The Government blocked that, shutting down any debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what happened, So the Government denied the bill being introduced,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Hanson walked into the Senate in a burker

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the moment that you're probably seen all

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<v Speaker 1>over your social media feeds in terms of her reasoning

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<v Speaker 1>for taking that step of wearing the burker in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate again, Hanson said in a statement after so if

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<v Speaker 1>the Parliament won't ban it, I will display the oppressive,

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<v Speaker 1>radical non religious head garb that risk our national security

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<v Speaker 1>and the ill treatment of women on the floor of

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<v Speaker 1>our Parliament so that every Australian knows what's at stake.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was the response within the Senate? How did

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<v Speaker 2>different parliamentarians react to this?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what was interesting is basically all sides of Parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least parliamentary from all sides of Parliament condemned

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<v Speaker 1>this act. I'll play you a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that she walked in because it was quite instant.

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<v Speaker 1>The condemnation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, wow, wow, senator.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator thought right after that happened, we heard from a

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<v Speaker 1>range of fellow senators. I'll play a little bit from

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them because I think it does give

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<v Speaker 1>context of how widespread the criticism was. So we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from Independent Senator Fatima Payman, who is Muslim. She is

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<v Speaker 1>disrespecting the Muslims out there, Muslim Australians. It's absolutely unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever our own beliefs may be, the sort of disrespect

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<v Speaker 4>that you are engaging in now is not worthy of

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<v Speaker 4>a member of the Australian Senate and it should not

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<v Speaker 4>be allowed to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And Coalition Senator ann rustin.

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<v Speaker 4>All of us in this place probably need to remember

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<v Speaker 4>that the respect of this chamber is incumbent on every

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<v Speaker 4>single one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought it was worth noting that National Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Canavan, who is also known for right wing opinions

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Hanson, he also criticized the move on

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<v Speaker 1>Sky News. He said the stunt was disrespectful and that

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<v Speaker 1>Hansen was more focused on getting a headline than an outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>One politician who defended Hansen was Barnaby Joyce, who is

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<v Speaker 1>currently part of the Nationals, and there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of speculation that he potentially wants to join Pauline

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson's One Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>He told ABC News quote, people are allowed to make

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<v Speaker 1>any political statement they wish, as long as it's not violent.

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<v Speaker 2>A very interesting comment from Barnaby Joyce Billy, because as

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, he has declared that he won't be running

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<v Speaker 2>again for the Nationals at the next election, but the

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<v Speaker 2>rumors are that we're going to hear an announcement from

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<v Speaker 2>him this week about where his political future will lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Pauline Hanson, though I know that the disruption

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<v Speaker 2>caused by her wearing the burker in the Senate actually

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<v Speaker 2>caused a suspension in the moment what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is quite rare for the Senate to be

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<v Speaker 1>suspended because of a senator's behavior. So initially when it

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<v Speaker 1>first happened, the Deputy President of the Senate, who was

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<v Speaker 1>presiding over proceedings, he said that dress is a matter

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<v Speaker 1>for individual senators.

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<v Speaker 4>This matter has been considered before.

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<v Speaker 3>Dress is a matter for individual senator's conscience.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Penny Wong, who I mentioned before, she's the

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign Affairs Minister and she's also the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>Government in the Senate. She moved a motion for Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>to be temporarily suspended from the Senate on Monday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>until she removed the burker. Now that was passed by

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<v Speaker 1>a majority of senators, but that then didn't happen. Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>refuse to remove the burker, and it was then decided

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<v Speaker 1>that the Senate itself would be suspended, which occurred for

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half before they all then

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<v Speaker 1>returned at about six pm on Monday, and Hanson did

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<v Speaker 1>return without the burker. And that is a recap of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on Monday in the Senate in Australia. A

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<v Speaker 1>very dramatic day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, So we have Pauline Hansen trying to table

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<v Speaker 2>this bill. She is blocked. She rocks up in the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate wearing a burker. Parliamentarians from all sides of politics

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, you cannot do that, you cannot behave this way,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to take that off. There's a motion passed

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the Senate cannot resume until Pauline Hanson removes

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<v Speaker 2>the burker. She refuses to Senate suspended. Then things resume

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<v Speaker 2>by Monday evening, but things continued to develop into Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so on Tuesday, Hansen was suspended from the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>highly for seven sitting days. That came after Penny Wang

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<v Speaker 1>moved a motion for that to happen and it was passed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned before that this is the last sitting

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<v Speaker 1>week of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to ask how that works. Does

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<v Speaker 2>the seven kind of not really have to get served?

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<v Speaker 1>No, so it will carry over into next year. So

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<v Speaker 1>she will there are a few remaining days this week

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<v Speaker 1>and then it will have to carry over into next year.

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<v Speaker 1>After Hanson's suspension was carried down, Hansen did say a

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<v Speaker 1>few words where she doubled down on the stunt. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>I am pleased now to be given the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>explain myself. I was denied the right by the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>to move my bill, to actually debate it on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor of Parliament. You denied me and the people of

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<v Speaker 3>Australia to have that voice. You chose to shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not the first you've done it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, she was suspended and that was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So no more Pauline Hanson in the Senate at

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<v Speaker 2>least for the rest of this year and early into

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<v Speaker 2>next year. But I think we should touch on before

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<v Speaker 2>we wrap up today, Billy, the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 2>not the first time Pauline Hanson has done this. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the better part of a decade ago. Her politics

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<v Speaker 2>haven't really shifted that much, I suppose. Can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about what happened the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's quite crazy how similar the two instances are.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was back in twenty seventeen when Pauline Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>walked into the Senate wearing a black burker. It was

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<v Speaker 1>largely for the same reason. She wanted to make a

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<v Speaker 1>ban on full face coverings in Australia, and she wore

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<v Speaker 1>the burker, she said, to demonstrate that point. It caused

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of controversy back then. In the years since

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, I think that it is mentioned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>when Pauline Hanson is talked about in the media and

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<v Speaker 1>when her anti immigration stance is talked about specifically, just

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<v Speaker 1>like it has cause a lot of controversy this time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure it's something that will be brought up

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<v Speaker 1>for years to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, a bit of deja vous there, but a fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>update in the Pauline Hanson story. Billy, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for explaining that to us. Thank you, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for listening to today's episode. That's all we've got

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<v Speaker 2>time for today, but we will be back a little

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<v Speaker 2>later on with your evening news headlines. Until then, have

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<v Speaker 2>a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Dunda

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