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Speaker 1: This feels like brother job interview.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it tell me one thing you could improve about yourself?

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Speaker 1: Many things.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, that'll be a long job interview.

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Speaker 1: It's a long list a lot of things, mainly in

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Speaker 1: the brain. So we're in the nice studios today, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the ones that are have all our screens and our

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Speaker 2: I feel lost without the possom urine on the roof

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Speaker 2: of your other studio.

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Speaker 1: Actually, those studios are. I don't care if this is public.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long I'm there for. Those studios

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Speaker 1: are on their way out, like not just they're literally

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Speaker 1: going to be I'm pretty sure bulldozed.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of a haunted house, you know how

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Speaker 2: it's really dark and you can't see anything. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: then if you did switch the lights on, it would

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Speaker 2: be way worse than when it's dark. Yes, it reminds

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Speaker 1: It gives me public toilet vibes, like there's just a

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Speaker 1: there's just random puddles there. So I flew down here.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the best flights I've had in

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Speaker 1: such a long time. It was the sun was out,

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Speaker 1: sun come over the cliffs, and I looked at and

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Speaker 1: I thought of you, yes, and I thought, I thought

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Speaker 1: about the right brothers, and I thought about it, just

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Speaker 1: the miracle of his flight. And I sat there for

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't give a I couldn't. I couldn't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck about the miracle of flying.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The only miracles I thought about on that flight was

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Speaker 1: how they managed to charge nine dollars fifty for a muffin.

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Speaker 1: And if I can also land after this flight, it'll

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Speaker 1: be a miracle. If I don't get COVID, but you

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Speaker 1: send me.

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Speaker 2: The picture, I thought, that is so odd. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen the engine from that perspective. I didn't actually know

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Speaker 2: there were seats that far back down the plane. I

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Speaker 2: thought that was just for catering.

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Speaker 1: I was in Row five too, like barely just sort

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Speaker 2: We can't.

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Speaker 1: God, you're a holy tweety prick. You are officially a

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Speaker 1: bit of a wing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Those cheap flights, though, are something else right, Like I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know they well, okay, let me put this into perspective.

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Speaker 1: There was a toddler sitting in front of me. Kudos,

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Speaker 1: I get what. I now get what it's like to

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Speaker 1: fly with a kid. Right, So, if your kid's crying

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Speaker 1: on a flight, Paul wouldn't tell you this because he

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Speaker 1: But I'm sort of sitting next to my own child.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. What do you feed your kid?

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Speaker 2: Ah, I'd have to check with the maid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the maid would probably cook up some sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just off the topic of cars, Some of the

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Speaker 2: things that come out of children are horrendous, so bad.

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Speaker 2: The stuff that my daughter pumps out. I just think,

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Speaker 2: what did you? Did you eat? Something that was like

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Speaker 1: Something probably in your house, probably rosa the maid.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, mister Paul, I did not clean up the

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Speaker 1: Please. Hey, we thought this would never happen. I thought

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Speaker 1: this would never happen. After's so many episodes of shitting

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Speaker 1: on Tesla's here we are doing a fully dedicated Tesla episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now, This isn't going to be a Tesla wank

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Speaker 2: fest at Tesla fanboy fest. We're just going to cover

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Speaker 2: this because they recently announced that Model Why was going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing I have noticed is there is

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Speaker 2: And it's weird because Tesla famously hasn't spent a cent

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Speaker 2: So it means that all of this interest is organic

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Speaker 2: There's not really any other companies that have that, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was getting the press car of this,

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Speaker 1: it's they don't really even have a PR department.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, they famously fired all of their PR people globally,

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Speaker 1: I will say when I did pick this up, and

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Speaker 2: And they also it's worth mentioning they don't care if

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh god, it's a person. Yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. I went into a Porscha dealership

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just a different way of doing things,

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Speaker 2: and it's just a much better way of doing things

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Speaker 1: So the Model Y launched.

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Speaker 2: They're ready to just do things quickly. The cars arrived

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so the fact that they were able to hit

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Speaker 2: Knew it was coming, I just didn't know when. So

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Speaker 2: when the email arrived, I literally went straight to the

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Speaker 2: The second she did, I hit purchase. You pay a

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing. They this type of stuff is

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Speaker 2: Photo male or female. Jesus Christ is amazing.

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Speaker 1: You don't know who? Do you listen to? Do you

440
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Speaker 1: consume music? Listen to the Beach Boys? The Beach Boys

441
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Speaker 1: are anything and smooth. M Okay, okay, this is Lizzo.

442
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: She's okay, hang on one second.

443
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if you've fallen asleep by this point.

444
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: Gordon's trying to use a phone.

445
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Just give you a bit of time to crack your jokes. Okay,

446
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: this is Lizzo.

447
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I see.

448
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: Paul's got an erection.

449
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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting?

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, obviously she's just showing you the trunk there. Yes,

451
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Speaker 1: and then that is the fronk for sure? Is that

452
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Speaker 1: is a feature that the Tesla doesn't have that it's

453
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Speaker 1: called the.

454
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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so I see what you mean, and look

455
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Speaker 2: I I personally, styling is subjective, but I personally don't

456
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Speaker 2: like the look of it. But yourself, But to me,

457
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I don't really care.

458
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Speaker 2: Once I'm inside, I can't see it, so it doesn't

459
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 2: bother me too much. But no, I don't love the

460
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Speaker 2: styling of it. But practically it's excellent. Like when you

461
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: you have a look at this compared to the EV

462
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Speaker 2: six of the ON five, when I open the boot

463
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: in this, it is huge and it's got heaps of

464
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: underfloor storage. It has storage at the front. When you're inside,

465
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Speaker 2: it's got a flat floor. There is heaps of room.

466
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Speaker 2: In the second row, there's heaps of headroom. It looks silly,

467
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: but it's practical in the way that it's designed. So

468
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Speaker 2: to me, that was what's important for us in terms

469
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Speaker 2: of more room, more height, et cetera. So from that

470
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Speaker 2: point of view, I like it, but I understand that

471
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Speaker 2: styling wise, it may not appeal to everybody.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm totally agreed. Like the outside just looks

473
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Speaker 1: I think frumpy was a great way to describe it.

474
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Speaker 1: It does kind of look like a chubby Model three, yes,

475
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Speaker 1: but on the inside it's fantastic. Like everything's great from

476
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Speaker 1: the seating, the the interior in these, which we're going

477
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Speaker 1: to talk about this with the with the Model three

478
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Speaker 1: as well, but it is it's minimalist. There's like this, yeah. Yes,

479
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: the general opinion when driving one of these is it's

480
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Speaker 1: very much not driving a car. You're driving a computer.

481
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: You're driving a laptop. Yeah, I reckon, And it's it's

482
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Speaker 1: such a minimalist car and it's in every single way possible.

483
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Speaker 2: Well, there are two buttons, yeah, literally steering well and

484
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: then the two steeringweel buttons, and they act as different things.

485
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: So you know in a normal car, how you have

486
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Speaker 2: a volume control and it just does a volume with this.

487
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: When you're driving, you've got volume and cruise control and

488
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Speaker 2: voice control depending on how you press them. But then

489
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Speaker 2: if you want to change your steering position or mirrors,

490
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Speaker 2: when you go into the menu, the steering wheel controls,

491
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Speaker 2: actors controls for those things depending on what you've selected.

492
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Speaker 2: So the thing that I think it desperately misses out

493
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Speaker 2: on is a head up display. And I know that

494
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Speaker 2: Tesla's like, oh, it doesn't need it. It's like, well,

495
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Speaker 2: you actually do, especially in Victoria where you'll get done

496
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Speaker 2: for doing a kilometer an hour over the speed limit.

497
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Speaker 2: The speed I was so tiny and in the top

498
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Speaker 2: corner of the screen. Even stuff like the blind spot

499
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Speaker 2: camera when you put it on your hand is in

500
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Speaker 2: the way of the camera, so when you look down

501
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: you can't even see the camera until you move your hands.

502
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Speaker 2: So it's stuff like that where they're trying to be

503
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Speaker 2: too cool for school, and it would all just be

504
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Speaker 2: fixed with a display ahead of the driver or a

505
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Speaker 2: head up display like Kerer or Yen Day users that

506
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Speaker 2: I think that it really would need to benefit from,

507
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Speaker 2: because at the moment it's it just is clumsy in

508
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Speaker 2: some of the things that it does.

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Speaker 1: I think at least to that center screen could at

510
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Speaker 1: least be somewhat customizable, like if you want the if

511
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Speaker 1: you want the speedo for instance, to be larger, you

512
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Speaker 1: should be able to It shouldn't be too hard to

513
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Speaker 1: make something like that. Keep it in the same spot

514
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Speaker 1: if you want, but just make the font bigger or

515
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Speaker 1: something like that.

516
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Speaker 2: What they've done they recently updated that whole display to

517
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Speaker 2: be completely different to what it is today, sorry to

518
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Speaker 2: what it was prior to their update. What they've done

519
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Speaker 2: is they've focused more on the driver display that shows

520
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Speaker 2: all the other cars around you and all the autopilot functions.

521
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Speaker 2: Great down the track when everything is driving on its own,

522
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Speaker 2: but at the moment they've sacrificed the speedo size that shrunk,

523
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Speaker 2: they've sacrificed the map size that shrunk as well, all

524
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Speaker 2: to make that section bigger.

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's useless.

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Speaker 2: It is it is used. It's like, oh, there's a

527
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Speaker 2: connext to me. I can see there's a current in

528
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Speaker 2: front of me as well, like I have eyes. So

529
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Speaker 2: it is a fairly pointless function if you're just driving

530
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time. So yeah, I think there

531
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Speaker 2: needs to be a bit of work done to that

532
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Speaker 2: functionality for it to actually be usable, because it is

533
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Speaker 2: very distracting at the moment while you're driving. If you

534
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Speaker 2: want to try and change radio station or even change

535
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Speaker 2: the climate controls, you have to be so precise with

536
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Speaker 2: where you click. Yeah. Yeah, it's just really not good.

537
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Speaker 1: I think that was my big ripe was the interior

538
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: was minimalis but it was almost too far and to

539
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Speaker 1: the point where I mean you do get used to

540
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Speaker 1: things like the basics of changing climate control or whatever.

541
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Speaker 1: I hated the maps at the start, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't like these maps. I use Google Maps a lot,

543
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Speaker 1: and driving in Sydney's traffic, I've got no idea where

544
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Speaker 1: I live after seven years. But you know you were

545
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Speaker 1: telling me when we jumped in this morning. It is

546
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Speaker 1: Google Maps. It's just kind of a different interface, but

547
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Speaker 1: it's a shit interface. It's just it's like the weird

548
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: thing is when you've got the tech to kind of

549
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Speaker 1: when you've got a screen like where it's got the

550
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: vehicle visualization, it looks it's an okay map, but I

551
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Speaker 1: think it could be way better.

552
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: So with the map as well, I'll typically use it

553
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Speaker 2: just on navigation the whole time, so I'll put in

554
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Speaker 2: my destination because it will route you around things. So

555
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: the other day when I was driving to Geelong to

556
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: test out that charger, there was a heap of traffic

557
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: on the freeway and it took me off down some

558
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: back roads and I got to avoid all the stationary traffic.

559
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: So from that front, it's great. It sort of does

560
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: all that. That stuff's not free either, so if you

561
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: buy one today, there's a subscription fee for the online services.

562
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: So if you want to stream video like Netflix or YouTube,

563
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Speaker 2: have Spotify and also have the traffic on the maps

564
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Speaker 2: and the satellite overlays. You have to pay ten bucks

565
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Speaker 2: a month.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, so for instance, I've already got say Spotify,

567
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Speaker 1: Amazon all that, right.

568
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're charging you for the data. So really it's

569
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Speaker 2: it sounds like they're charging you for the services, but

570
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: all the services are free. In theory, it's just the

571
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Speaker 2: data they charge you for ten dolls and other covers

572
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: the amount of data you could potentially stream through Netflix.

573
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Speaker 2: So they work on a law of averages. If you

574
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Speaker 2: sat there and stream Netflix for a month straight, you

575
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Speaker 2: would it well and truly exceed the ten dollars a

576
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Speaker 2: month they've done. But as a law of average is

577
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: over a year, for the two or three times you'll

578
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: use Netflix, there's enough money there to cover your data use.

579
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: So you've got to think that there's twenty thousand of

580
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: these cars in Australia, there's a million globally that have

581
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: been sold just in the last year. If they all

582
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: have a data sim inside them and Tesla's paying for that,

583
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Speaker 2: the ten bucks a month is now offsetting that cost.

584
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Speaker 1: So it's basically like if you've got Apple Car Plane,

585
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 1: Android Auto in your car, you're running it off your

586
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: phone effectively because you're mirroring your phone. Yeah, you're paying

587
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: for it anyway in a way, So still frustrating.

588
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: Well, how did you go with the Model three? Which

589
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: spec did you drive?

590
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Speaker 1: Ah? The speck was the base Model three.

591
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that basically matches up with the Model y.

592
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: I think the Model why price wise is like five

593
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: grand more or something like that for all the extra

594
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: space you get. So yeah, what did you think of

595
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: the Model three?

596
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: Look, I've been shitting on this car for a long

597
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: time and I've sat in it many times before, and

598
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: I'd never driven it.

599
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: And I've loved it.

600
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I loved it. Yeah, Paul was, Yeah, he

601
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: loved it. Yes, Yes, do you know, I will say,

602
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: on the sort of scale of I guess cars, you might,

603
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: let's say you've got internal combustion cars at one end

604
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: and you've got sort of this EV sort of scale

605
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: of one end. Tesla needs to be at the very

606
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: end because it is very much its own entity. It's

607
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: very much like iPhone v Android.

608
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think you're right. A lot of other

609
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: car brands that do evs, they try and do it

610
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: differently for the sake of being different, and I just

611
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know that it has the same effect. Although I

612
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: think BMW is doing a good job, I don't I

613
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: think the way that they integrate EV in some of

614
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: their cars. I just drove the I four and I

615
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: think that feels and drives like a four series, and

616
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: the interior looks just like any other BMUBA So that

617
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of thing's not too bad. But yeah, I think that, Yeah,

618
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: they are sort of polar opposites.

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Speaker 1: I think the key is that they're making evs from

620
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Speaker 1: the ground up. They're not doing what did you call

621
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Speaker 1: it the other day, compliance cars, h compliance ev right,

622
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: compliance evs. These are dedicated platforms to an EV and

623
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of a difference.

624
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Because let me explain why they do compliance evs, especially

625
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: in Europe. So Tesla has just finished building Gigaberlin, which

626
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: is their factory in Europe in Germany, and that was

627
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: almost entirely paid for by another car company. So that

628
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: may sound ridiculous, but in Europe, if your overall fleet

629
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: of cars averages are higher emission than the whatever the

630
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: limit is that European commissioners set, you have to pay

631
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: penalties to car companies that have exceeded the requirement. Because

632
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Tesla only makes evs, they naturally exceed the requirement easily. Yes,

633
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: so another car company has basically paid all this money

634
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: in fines to Tesla, and Tesla used that money to

635
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: build a new factory. Wow. So that's why they're rushing

636
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: out to make these compliance evs. They may not be good,

637
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: but it means they can sell a car that's an

638
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: EV that brings their average down. They pay less in fines.

639
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: It's political correct, shock correct.

640
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Model why though about

641
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: the things I didn't like In addition to that infotainment stuff.

642
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I just want to quickly backtrack. For instance, a few

643
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: things I did love about the Model three was which

644
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of like cars in general should

645
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: be taking on. There's a lot of things I didn't like,

646
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: but the few things that I loved was things like

647
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: they're essentially making the key obsolete. Yes, and like it's

648
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: a card at the very least it's generally off your

649
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: phone or just like you carry your phone everywhere you are,

650
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: or your wallet or whatever, so the card can stick

651
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: in your wallet, the phones in your pocket. Anyway, you

652
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: just need to really be around the car to drive

653
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the thing. You know, you don't need to push anything,

654
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: you don't need to do anything. You literally just need

655
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Speaker 1: to sit in it and go. It's incredibly well thought out.

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Speaker 1: It sort of blows my mind that especially EVS, even

657
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Speaker 1: a proximity sensing key generally doesn't open up your car properly,

658
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Speaker 1: like it'll unlock it. But I mean, for instance, with

659
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Speaker 1: my sting, I don't know why, but it'll open. It'll

660
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Speaker 1: unlock the car, but unless you've got to push the

661
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Speaker 1: button on the thing to properly open it.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good point with the phone app because

663
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Speaker 2: for me, when we owned down Model three, I didn't

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Speaker 2: even have the card. I don't know, it just sat

665
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Speaker 2: in the thing at home. But with the app, I

666
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Speaker 2: can give access to people to drive the car, even

667
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Speaker 2: if they don't have a Tesla. So I can send

668
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Speaker 2: you access to drive my car and then all you

669
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Speaker 2: do is just take your phone to the car and

670
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Speaker 2: it will unlock and start and do everything that it

671
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Speaker 2: needs to do, and then you can track the car.

672
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Speaker 2: You can send destinations to it through the app as well.

673
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Speaker 2: The app is probably one of the best features of

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Speaker 2: the car in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many things, even just that the cameras

676
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Speaker 1: around it. I hadn't noticed before, but if somebody comes

677
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Speaker 1: close to you in say a parking lot, it'll automatically

678
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Speaker 1: start filming, So before it hits you, it pretty much

679
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Speaker 1: knows who's going to do that. Somebody scratches your car,

680
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: it's going to like record that. At very least at

681
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Speaker 1: the very foundations of this car. It is easily the

682
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Speaker 1: most intelligent, well thought out and articulated car out there,

683
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Speaker 1: and there is a lot of car manufacturers that should

684
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Speaker 1: be taking on board not only features, but the whole

685
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Speaker 1: ethos of this car. The thing that I guess I

686
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Speaker 1: didn't like is in general, there's just such an inane

687
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Speaker 1: kind of design.

688
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Speaker 2: It's just generic.

689
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so it's so very eye robot And even

690
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Speaker 1: if you shell out for the performance one, you kind

691
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Speaker 1: of wanted to look performance. You want it to look cooler,

692
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Speaker 1: and they just don't have that. There are, especially in

693
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Speaker 1: the US, a lot of companies that will do custom

694
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Speaker 1: stuff just for the Tesla's but you kind of wanted

695
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Speaker 1: to just look I just wish they looked cooler.

696
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Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, on stuff I

697
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Speaker 2: didn't like with the Model Y, the ride is horrendous

698
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Speaker 2: I read a whole bunch of European reviews because it's

699
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Speaker 2: been out there for a little while now, and I

700
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Speaker 2: thought it can't be that bad far out. The car

701
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Speaker 2: that we had was a base model. It had the

702
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Speaker 2: optional twenty inch OI wheel. It comes downard with nineteen's.

703
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Speaker 2: The ride was so firm that I kind of liken

704
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Speaker 2: it to my scale of car firmness is like Mercedes

705
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Speaker 2: bends at one end, which is a little too soft,

706
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Speaker 2: to BMWM product at the other end. And this was

707
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Speaker 2: like that's a track car. Yeah, this was like a

708
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Speaker 2: bmw X three am. It was so unnecessarily firm. And

709
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Speaker 2: the end result of that is you have a family suv.

710
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Speaker 2: If you've got a baby in there, you fear hitting

711
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Speaker 2: a pothole because you'll eject them out of the roof

712
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Speaker 2: like it is. It is just shocking. So and that's

713
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Speaker 2: partly due to forty four PSI on the tires. They

714
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Speaker 2: have to run a high pressure for efficiency. It now

715
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Speaker 2: runs Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires on the twenty inch wheel,

716
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Speaker 2: which tire well, no, they've got foam inside and they

717
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Speaker 2: also have stiffer sidewalls, again for efficiency. So all of

718
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Speaker 2: that results in a very firm ride. The trade off

719
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Speaker 2: there is that it handles great, so when we drive

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Speaker 2: it at the proven ground, it handled incredibly well for

721
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Speaker 2: a big suv, but I just think it's way too

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Speaker 2: firm for a family suv. So the one I've bought,

723
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Speaker 2: and just in case you don't know, i've bought one,

724
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Speaker 2: the one I bought was a base model with the

725
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Speaker 2: nineteens because I need a little bit of comfort. Our

726
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Model three was also too firm, and I didn't want

727
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Speaker 2: to go down the path of the performance because it

728
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Speaker 2: has twenty one incha loo whels, which would even worse.

729
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Speaker 2: So Tesla really needs an adaptive damping package. So with BMWs,

730
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Speaker 2: generally you can fix the ride by ticking the adaptive

731
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Speaker 2: damping or air suspension option and then that smooths it

732
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Speaker 2: out when it is in comfort, whereas the Tesla things

733
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Speaker 2: just firm all the time. That's what you come with,

734
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Speaker 2: and I recommend if you have bought one, please take

735
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Speaker 2: it for a test drive. The test drives are available now.

736
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Speaker 2: Actually you drive it before it gets delivered, because this

737
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Speaker 2: might be enough for people to actually just cancel their

738
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Speaker 2: order and go do something else, because it may just

739
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Speaker 2: become tiring enough that you don't want to have to

740
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Speaker 2: live with that ride.

741
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Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to drive it before you

742
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Speaker 1: bought it? No Ah, So you bought it and then

743
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Speaker 1: you drove it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing. I'll probably still keep it anyway,

745
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: just based on the nineteen should be better. So we'll

746
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Speaker 2: see how that goes, hoping.

747
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: For the best. How did you expect this car?

748
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: It was just it was just the base one.

749
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But like, did you go with the car.

750
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Speaker 2: And the color that we have outside, which is midnight something?

751
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, metallic, so that's the color. I would have chosen

752
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: that or black, but I would have gone the black wheels.

753
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's the thing. The black wheels are the

754
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: only ones you can get on that on the twenties. So,

755
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: which is a little bit frustrated, And.

756
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Speaker 1: You don't you don't like the wine interior because you

757
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: had it on your original model.

758
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Speaker 2: I do, but my wife didn't want it because if

759
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Speaker 2: we have a kid and shouldn't want to get dirty,

760
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Speaker 2: So we'll stick with it.

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Speaker 1: See that was my thing too, I said, if we're

762
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Speaker 1: going with this, I said, the white interior is going

763
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Speaker 1: to look shit, And she really wanted it. And I

764
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, apparently it's pretty easy.

765
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Speaker 2: To clean that because they're vegan old things vegans.

766
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: Like, vegan is such a bullshit word. I know, it's

767
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: such a bull crab word.

768
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: It's's just vinyl.

769
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just vinyl. It's just some crappy material that

770
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: hopefully will last a long time.

771
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about just a couple of other quick

772
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Speaker 2: tesla topics here, yes, sort of, before we wrap up.

773
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Speaker 2: We wrote a story about this hotel that's basically it's

774
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: a Queensland startup and it lets hotel guests borrow a

775
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: tesla for thirty dollars an hour, calling it just an

776
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: amenity that you can use as part of the hotel

777
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: startups called outbound. What do you think about that? It's

778
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: a hotel on the Gold Coast, thirty bucks an hour

779
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: is pretty reasonable, I reckon. Do you think that more

780
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: hotels should be adopting this type of thing?

781
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I think it's

782
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: a very good idea. This is a this isn't actually

783
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: too new, especially to Queensland, because I know that I'm

784
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: pretty sure there's a deal going with that. What's that

785
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: bloody Steve Irwin reptile, the Australian Reptile Australia Zoo. Right,

786
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they've got a fleet of evs

787
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: that will take you from your hotel. They're pretty much

788
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: charged to go from say the park back to the hotel.

789
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that unique. It certainly is

790
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: with a Tesla, I guess. I think it's a good idea.

791
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Why not. I mean, and it's good for tesla too,

792
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people that will go. I've

793
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: always wanted one, but I have never driven one. And

794
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: it's also like a it's a chance to hire a

795
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: car and also have a test drive as well.

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00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: It's also good for apartment buildings. I mean, if you

797
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: had a communal car there that you could hire per hour.

798
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: It's a car that is in the garage that you

799
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: just book in and take away with you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's also suit me with the hotels that

801
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: I get because I usually rent them for an hour,

802
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: and then if I can rent the car for an

803
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: hour as well, and Paul's made for an hour, it

804
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: works out pretty good.

805
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: This was very generous.

806
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly I'm a bit of a slow coach.

807
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think. I think it's a good idea.

808
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: So the more of that, the more of that, the

809
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: better I reckon. And one thing that I wanted to

810
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: touch on as well that isn't really Tesla, but I

811
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: think is a valid valid point. Toyota is currently clashing

812
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: with its shareholders about a slow EV rollout and they're

813
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: doing some sort of North Korean style stuff here where

814
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: I think it was a Danish superannuation fund who invests

815
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: in Toyota. They basically criticized them at an investor presentation

816
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: and said, hey, what's going on with the EV rollout?

817
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: And Toyota got back to them and said, I'm so sorry.

818
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: The closing time for questions was yesterday, but it was

819
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: written nowhere that that's when you had to hand your

820
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: questions invite. Toyota is interesting though, so they were kind

821
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Speaker 2: of the they.

822
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Were kind of or get your dribble bit or something.

823
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: They were kind of the starters of the electric game

824
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: with hybrid right with press and stuff like this. So

825
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: they've been in EV's for a while now, but they

826
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: haven't really been doing full lev's are being very hesitant

827
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: with that that they're big on hydrogen as well. There

828
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: argument about not going full ev IS because some parts

829
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: around the world won't be ready and may never be

830
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: ready for ev So if you think about some third

831
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: world countries where the powers out every ten seconds, they

832
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: use camp stoves as ovens and all that sort of stuff,

833
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 2: you're not going to have enough power to you just.

834
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: You know, look, I'm gonna have to cook with a

835
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: camb oven and you know, I live in a pretty

836
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: appalling sort of shanty town. But jeez, the new Toyota

837
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: land Cruiser looks good.

838
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: At least it's on an TV. Yeah, but yeah, I

839
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: think there's there are still some places around the world

840
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: where EV's may not work and may not ever work.

841
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: And I think Toyota is thinking about it from from

842
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: a way of Okay, if we can reduce the economies

843
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: of scale on cheaper engines and perhaps have hybrids as

844
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: well that bridge the gap, then why not. But it

845
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: shareholders don't seem to agree with that, So what are

846
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: your thoughts?

847
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, I don't really care at this point.

848
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that they clearly no stuff that we don't.

849
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, they're making business decisions, higher scale business decisions

850
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: that they've probably got a good point. There's probably a

851
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: lot of countries that an EV wouldn't work in. I mean,

852
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Australia is moving so quickly and our infrastructure is so slow.

853
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: At one point, you know, six months ago, the general

854
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: consensus was we're not really that ready for evs either,

855
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: So probably yeah. I mean I can't exactly see myself

856
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: going on holiday to Vietnam and going around in a

857
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: bloody Tesla or something like that, So you know, I

858
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: think I think they're probably right. I think there's some

859
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: countries that are good sort of twenty years at least.

860
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it's it is an interesting one.

861
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: So well, Yeah, I hope you enjoyed our Tesla Special.

862
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I certainly did not.

863
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you have any questions, contact at the

864
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: Drive Show dot com dot I use send us your questions.

865
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: Let us know what you want to know about. You know,

866
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 2: you want to know more about Tesla's, more evs, anything

867
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: you want to know less about West Tesla's less EV's.

868
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Speaker 2: Contact at the Drive Show dot com today year as.

869
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Speaker 1: Weeks and here's an email that's coming through. Let's Paul, please,

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Speaker 1: you know, wh while we're talking about Toyota, I kind

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Speaker 1: of I kind of zoned out and I was thinking

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Speaker 1: Toyota Supra the the Newness and Z.

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Speaker 2: Who that would be good. Yeah. Big price difference though,

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Speaker 2: because the Z is now going to be cheaper, much

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Speaker 2: cheaper than the Super, so I think globally that's going

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Speaker 2: to put a lot of pressure on Toyota in terms

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Speaker 2: of super pricing, which will be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Have you touched the Z yet?

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Speaker 2: No, not yet.

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Speaker 1: I've seen video footage of it and it sounds unreal.

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Speaker 2: It looks good as well.

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Speaker 1: It sounds so good, looks great. Just trying to like

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Speaker 1: you get out okay, yeah, look, I'm just going through

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Speaker 1: some of the messages that we're getting. It's generally more episodes. Please, hey, Felers,

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Speaker 1: love the podcast, wondering if you have a chance to

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Speaker 1: get your hands on the audi RS three for a review.

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Speaker 1: Also in the next twelve months, I will be definitely

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Speaker 1: buying a new Arranger Wrapped as Paul. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a beast. Please let me know if you have any

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Speaker 1: more car news, any more news in car journalism land

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Speaker 1: about a rumor of AH the Ranger Raptor being updated

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Speaker 1: by is it herod Performance?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I haven't heard that, but that sounds cool.

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Speaker 2: I know fucking English.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens. He gets a little drunk and

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Speaker 1: does cocaine before each show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but anyway, I know him and he does some

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Speaker 2: amazing stuff. What they did with the aspect was really awesome.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's very well qualified to be doing

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Speaker 2: some work on these So.

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Speaker 1: I give you, I give you a bit of shit

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Speaker 1: about sleeping with Jennifer Kied. Someone said no, she's moved

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Speaker 1: to Channel ten. Now, wow, that says a lot. She

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Speaker 1: obviously heard Paul's like, now signed to Channel seven. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I cannot deal with this secret dicking anymore. I'm moving channels.

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Speaker 1: She's always been a Peter hitching a guy. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just going through these messages. The general consensus too, A

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Speaker 1: lot of people are saying more apps, more often.

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Speaker 2: So okay, got plenty of time to just do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing the best way. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: I reckon it will eventually. I think it'll eventually get there. Yes, eventually.

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Speaker 2: Please make sure you send us an email or messages on.

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Speaker 1: Social yes, like subscribe, share ratings, tell everyone that would

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Speaker 1: be great. Good, Okay,