WEBVTT - The Aussie Influencer Feud That's Gone International 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Drake inserts

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<v Speaker 1>himself into the Anna, Paul and Mikayla testa drama. M

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<v Speaker 1>Davies drops her highly anticipated wedding photos and our Friday

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<v Speaker 1>eight debrief. But first, Amy, would you pay nineteen dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for a single strawberry? I love strawberries, but surely no

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<v Speaker 1>one is paying that much for a single one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently jen Zeta's in California think that this is completely

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable because luxury grocery chain air One, which is known

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<v Speaker 1>for selling twenty dollars celebrity smoothies, has launched a range

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<v Speaker 1>of organic luxury strawberries from Kyoto. Now they're from a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese retailer called Ellie Amar, and the strawberries are sold

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<v Speaker 1>in these individual plastic pots for nineteen dollars a pop. God,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd want them to taste good? Well, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of TikTokers who are declaring that these are the strawberries

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<v Speaker 1>they've ever tasted. It seems like some sort of placebo effect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just just a marketing bruise to make their smoothies

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<v Speaker 1>look not so expensive. Maybe well, LA influencer Alyssa and

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<v Speaker 1>Toki has gone viral after sharing a taste test video

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<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen dollars strawberry. Now. The video has since

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up over fifteen million views. It's absolutely classic. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>throw to what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a nineteen dollars strawberry from.

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<v Speaker 1>Airwin, so we're gonna eat it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's from Kyoto in Japan, and apparently it's like the

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<v Speaker 3>best teasting strawberry.

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<v Speaker 4>In the entire roll.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, here we go. Wow, there's the best strawberry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, out of the best strawberry I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Air one is a fucking genius. The way that they

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<v Speaker 1>have glamorized healthy eating and made it so aspirational is

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<v Speaker 1>just incredible. The fact that we are in a cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living crisis but these gen zs are happy to

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<v Speaker 1>shell out nineteen dollars for one strawberry like this is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking insane. And they made the strawberry look so fancy

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<v Speaker 1>it almost looked like an engagement ring because it was

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<v Speaker 1>propped up on this stand. Yeah, it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting on a stage ready for TikTok, because this

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<v Speaker 1>strawberry was made for a taste test video. They are

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<v Speaker 1>very clever. They know marketing. They know that influencers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come in and taste test these strawberries the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that they do the smoothies. Well, I've just

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<v Speaker 1>converted it, so it's nineteen American dollars, which is thirty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty Australian cents. That is crazy. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the way that she was saying it was the best

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<v Speaker 1>strawberry she's ever eaten. Well, it would want to be

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<v Speaker 1>for that price. As expected. This elicited a huge response

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<v Speaker 1>in Alyssa's comments section. One follower wrote, who else thinks

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<v Speaker 1>Air one is a social experiment to see what people

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<v Speaker 1>will spend money on. Another said air one was one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent started by a group of UNI students who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to run a social experiment on consumerism, but ended

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<v Speaker 1>up accidentally creating a successful grocery store. So now they

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<v Speaker 1>just watch and laugh. Another TikToker wrote America is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest scam, while another commented people can't afford eggs, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there are people spending nineteen dollars on a single strawberry.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it here it's making grapes at New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>look pretty affordable now. Elissa's video has also led to

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<v Speaker 1>a number of parody videos. Let's throw to my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a nineteen dollars strawberry from Arawan. It's from Kyoto, Japan,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's supposed to be like the best in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>so let's eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>He got the clicking of the packaging so correct. Also

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<v Speaker 1>the very suggestive way that a number of these TikTokers

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<v Speaker 1>are eating the fruit as well. It was absolutely spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>What's pretty crazy, though, is there is a market for

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<v Speaker 1>designer fruit. So in Tokyo you are surrounded by twelve

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<v Speaker 1>dollar apples when you go to the markets, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is a brand called Oshi which has made a name

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<v Speaker 1>for itself in Tokyo by selling designer strawberries, but they

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<v Speaker 1>will only set you back two dollars apiece, not nineteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I skin guys, it caught me off God, it caught

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<v Speaker 3>me so off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>The Anna Paul Mikayla tester feud is not going away

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Only fans creator Karina Kopp and controversial superstar

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<v Speaker 1>Drake inserted themselves into the drama now Amy. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people were shocked to see an international celebrity like

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<v Speaker 1>Drake weighing into such a local influencer feud.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Drake's got a lot going on at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his own feuds he's fighting. It seemed bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>that this was even on his radar. So on Monday night,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake wore a singlet which read it made Me Feel

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<v Speaker 1>Broke during his concert on the Gold Coast. Michaela tester,

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously ecstatic by the photo of Drake because she

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<v Speaker 1>shared on her Instagram alongside the caption it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Drake has picked his side with this. I feel broke

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<v Speaker 1>tea Intonight's show in my city, laughing my ass off. Yeah, because,

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<v Speaker 1>just to reiterate, Drake was performing on the Gold Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where Mikayla and Anna are from. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up wearing three different T shirts this week

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<v Speaker 1>at his concerts which referenced the drama. So another one

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<v Speaker 1>of the T shirts read Anna Verse Mikayla Gold Coast

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, while another said Anna max win. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is a play on term referencing the name of

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<v Speaker 1>his tour, which is Anita max Win Tour. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>one went over my head a little bit. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to go into the comment section to have that one

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<v Speaker 1>explained to me. Well, apparently Drake's tour name is inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by his love of gambling. Oh lovely, So it loosely

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<v Speaker 1>translates to I need a max win, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>popular gambling term. Just if you don't know that, Sophie. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>many people have labeled Drake as a hypocrite for getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the drama due to the very serious allegations

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<v Speaker 1>that Mikayla has leveled at her ex boyfriend Addas Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>that we unfortunately can't get into for legal reasons because

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<v Speaker 1>just this month, Drake made headlines after rapper Kendrick Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>accused him in a distrack of having relationships with underaged women.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Drake has denied these claims. I have to point out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might be wondering, how was Drake, who is

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<v Speaker 1>an international celebrity, all over this local drama. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been rumored popular TikToker and sex worker Blue Eyed

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<v Speaker 1>Kayla Jade actually told him to wear the Ifiel Broke shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pair allegedly hung out together ahead of her

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<v Speaker 1>attending one of his concerts. So prior to that news

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<v Speaker 1>going public, Kayla posted a video saying that she was

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with a certain celebrity, but said she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to say too much because she didn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>she had to sign an NDA. It turns out she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to sign one, so she later shared a

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<v Speaker 1>video the next day saying, get ready with me to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out and go to a Drake concert. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>has led to a lot of disappointment from her followers,

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<v Speaker 1>with many upset that she would align herself with the

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<v Speaker 1>singer due to the recent allegations that have come out

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<v Speaker 1>against him. Actually, one of my friends was telling me

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<v Speaker 1>this week that he had a friend attend one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Drake concerts and they got picked out to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the after party and as soon as they arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>their phones were instantly taken away from them. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a lot of stuff going on in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>NDA's being signed. I mean, people are a bit dubious

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<v Speaker 1>as to what was actually going on between Drake and Kayler. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as we've touched on, she is a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was some speculation that maybe he hired her

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<v Speaker 1>and was spending time with her. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to this story because fans are calling for her

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<v Speaker 1>to be canceled now, so we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>covering this in more depth on Tuesday's show. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to concentrate on today is the drama

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<v Speaker 1>between Mikayla Tester and her former friend Corina Kopf. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Michayla, it was Drake's T shirt that sparked

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<v Speaker 1>her former friend to way into the Mikayla and a drama. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, Karina is a twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>year old US influencer and Only Fans creator who previously

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<v Speaker 1>dated Logan Paul. She has six point seven million Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>followers and four point six million on TikTok, and she

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly made a whopping sixty seven million dollars on Only

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<v Speaker 1>Fans since she joined the platform in twenty twenty one. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as for Karina's connection to Drake, the pair were linked

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty three and were first spotted together

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<v Speaker 1>backstage at one of his shows. However, it appears by

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty twenty four that things soured between the two,

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<v Speaker 1>with Karina posting Kendrick Lamar's distract to Drake on Instagram Now.

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<v Speaker 1>On Tuesday, Karina took to her Instagram story to accuse

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla Tester of lying about the Paul family. In the

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<v Speaker 1>scathing attack, she labeled Mikayla as a pathological liar. She wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done sitting here in silence while other people suffer

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<v Speaker 1>over someone I have first hand experience with. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this wholeheartedly when I say Mikayla Tester is the most

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<v Speaker 1>narcissistic and manipulative person I've ever met. Until I met her,

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<v Speaker 1>I had never encountered a true pathological liar. Ask anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has ever come into contact with her, and I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you they will say the exact same thing. Since

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<v Speaker 1>I met her two years ago, she has not had

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<v Speaker 1>one consistent person in her life. Every single person has

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<v Speaker 1>come and gone. It's always everyone else who is the

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up friend who was the common denominator here. I've

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<v Speaker 1>listened to her talk shit about every single friend over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. The only difference in this situation is

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing it publicly years later for her own personal gain.

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<v Speaker 1>This person craves attention. This is for attention. This is

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<v Speaker 1>for views, this is for personal gain, this is for money. Geez,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't hold back there. I mean it seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit hypocritical to me because she's having a go

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<v Speaker 1>at Michayla for calling out Anna, and she's doing the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing to Mikayla. It was only going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a matter of time before someone with a public

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<v Speaker 1>profile came out in support of Anna. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised it's actually taken this long for someone to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and defend her, because she was incredibly popular across

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<v Speaker 1>social media, but everyone seemed to just not want to

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<v Speaker 1>be associated with her. It's been a pylon, hasn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of not surprised that Karina's come out because

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<v Speaker 1>she's probably seen exactly what happens when you insert yourself

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<v Speaker 1>into this drama, which is max views more followers, not

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<v Speaker 1>that she probably needs it because she's already earning so

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<v Speaker 1>much money on OnlyFans. But Mikayla was straight on the attack.

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<v Speaker 1>She denied that she was a pathological liar and said

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason Carina had gone off at her was

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<v Speaker 1>because she posted about Drake. So she wrote on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know the history there. She then accused Karna

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<v Speaker 1>of having a parasocial relationship with Anna and Adis and

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that she had paid people to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram banned in twenty twenty one. Now the allegations

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<v Speaker 1>kept coming. She said that Karna invited her to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamas in twenty twenty two after her breakoup with Addis,

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<v Speaker 1>only for Mikayla to find out that Karna had been

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly texting Adis trying to meet up. She also went

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<v Speaker 1>on to say that she and Karna had become friends

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three, and they were so close that

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<v Speaker 1>she had confided in her about the allegations she's made

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<v Speaker 1>against the polls. Now By twenty twenty four, Michayla says

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<v Speaker 1>Carina was hanging out at her house regularly and stayed

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<v Speaker 1>with her for a month. She finished up by accusing

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<v Speaker 1>Karna of victim blaming and said she's almost thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>relies on young creators and internet drama to boost her

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<v Speaker 1>OnlyFans and create abundance. There definitely seems to be quite

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting history there between the pair, which seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have been exacerbated by the fact that Drake showed support

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<v Speaker 1>for Michayla Well, the slinging match continued, so Karina rebutted

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<v Speaker 1>Michayla's claims in a six minute audio clip to her

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story. She denied trying to get Michayla's Instagram band

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<v Speaker 1>and said that she didn't have a parasocial relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the Polls. She also claimed that there are others who

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<v Speaker 1>agree with her that Michayla is a pathological liar and

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<v Speaker 1>urged her followers to pay attention to Michayla's content because

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<v Speaker 1>the proof is in the pudding. She also went on

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<v Speaker 1>to share a screen recording of their Instagram dms between

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Gosh, it's just getting so messy. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to be across all of these instagram slinging matches like

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<v Speaker 1>Drake apparently is. Well yeah now. In response, Mikayla shared

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<v Speaker 1>this TikTok video, which has had over three point five

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<v Speaker 1>million views.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single friend I've ever been seen online, every single

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<v Speaker 3>one has messaged me, and majority of them over like

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<v Speaker 3>half of them have actually posted on their own social

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<v Speaker 3>media's saying the fucked up stories that they witnessed with

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<v Speaker 3>the Polls and me and things that they went through

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<v Speaker 3>with them. So tell me who these people are that

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<v Speaker 3>are apparently gonna side with you and anna an artists

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<v Speaker 3>because we aren't singing them. Even our fucking hairdresser and

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<v Speaker 3>the lady that sold us cats and the fucking real

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<v Speaker 3>estates have my back in this situation. I've got every

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<v Speaker 3>receipt and I've just filmed the podcast. God, it was

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<v Speaker 3>so long and so treacherous, but I'm glad it's sober.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't believe my own friends. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to sleep without us, and she's been begging on

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<v Speaker 3>her to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>With her for the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Would come out and stab me in the back like this, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it caught me off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>It caught me so off guard.

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<v Speaker 3>And everything she's saying in a story, She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and ask Michayla's friends.

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<v Speaker 1>It really seems like Michayla was caught off guard by

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<v Speaker 1>Karina's claims because in this Michayla references her as a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't see like they had some fallout before this

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<v Speaker 1>internet drama started.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Mikayla would have been on probably the biggest high

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<v Speaker 1>of her life seeing an international celebrity like Drake supporting her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that being said. Obviously, not everyone loves Drake

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment though, because of those claims. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very messy story now. Karina then also brought up

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<v Speaker 1>Michayla's ex boyfriend, kid LaRoy.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid LaRoy is an Aussie rapper who Michayla says was

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<v Speaker 1>her first love. Now. The couple dated when Michayla was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and kid LaRoy was only sixteen. Now Karina accused

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<v Speaker 1>Michayla of being a hypocrite for dating someone underage and

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<v Speaker 1>said it was against the law. Mikayla hit back on

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram story, saying, this girl is crazy talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a three year age gap with someone from my past,

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<v Speaker 1>which is legal. I've been sick of this rumor for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. No, it's not true, and with a

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<v Speaker 1>simple Google search you'll be able to see that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a low of a low act to try

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<v Speaker 1>and paint me as someone that's a bad person when

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<v Speaker 1>in reality they are doing a lot worse. Mikayla followed

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<v Speaker 1>it up with a screenshot from Google which said if

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<v Speaker 1>the sex is consensual and the other party is also

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<v Speaker 1>aged sixteen years or over, it is not against the law.

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<v Speaker 1>This is getting so messy. I just think they need

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<v Speaker 1>to stop responding to each other because it's just muddying

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<v Speaker 1>the water and it's not making either of them look

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<v Speaker 1>particularly good. Oh my god, Gods, I'm getting married today.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend, we were on wedding Watch as popular

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<v Speaker 1>influencer m Davies tied the knot to her long term

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Joel Gambon in Western Australia. The Perth based influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>who has over four hundred and thirty thousand followers, kept

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<v Speaker 1>fans on edge as she waited three days to share

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<v Speaker 1>the highly anticipated photos. Despite the weight, EM actually posted

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<v Speaker 1>in real time on the morning of her wedding. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty unheard of, particularly for a bride who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the public eye. But I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really clever strategy to build up suspense and engagement. I

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<v Speaker 1>also think that Em was very aware of how emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>invested her audience is in her wedding that she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make them feel like they were part of the

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<v Speaker 1>day and joining in on the fun, So she uploaded

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<v Speaker 1>a total of three tiktoks on the morning of her wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>The first showdo Waking Up saying that she couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the day was here, whilst another showed her in

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<v Speaker 1>her white pjs with her hair and rollers, whilst her bridesmaid,

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<v Speaker 1>Lily Brown, poured her a wine. Now fans are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>stoked to be a fly on the wall, riding love you,

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<v Speaker 1>posting in real time and declaring that EM's wedding was

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<v Speaker 1>their Olympics whilst others said it was their royal wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a bit like how a lot of men

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<v Speaker 1>say that the AFL ground final is their Christmas Day?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is that vibe. Now, there was one

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok in particular that really struck a chord with EM's followers,

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<v Speaker 1>and it showed her having a quiet moment to herself

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<v Speaker 1>as she opened up her cards from her bridesmaids. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she made sure to open them up before she had

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<v Speaker 1>her makeup done because she knew that there was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of tears. And this was a

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<v Speaker 1>really emotional moment because Em sadly lost her mum to

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<v Speaker 1>cancer a number of years ago. And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was really evident during her Hen's party, what an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>tight knit group of friends she has, Like those girls

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<v Speaker 1>seem to go above and beyond for her. And em

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<v Speaker 1>was reading up the videos, she was in a flood

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<v Speaker 1>of tears and she said, how good of friends when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a mom. Now. This sentiment was echoed

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<v Speaker 1>in her comment section, with one follower writing, you were

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<v Speaker 1>so loved your mom picked out so many angels for

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<v Speaker 1>you to walk through life with. Now, whilst this was

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<v Speaker 1>a very touching video, followers couldn't help but notice m's

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<v Speaker 1>something new present As it was described by the Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a pearl embellished vape case and it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like her friends had thought of every detail. How

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five is this? Look, it's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>I would personally want, being very anti vape or used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but you know their thought was there. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that it was covered in pearls and a ribbon.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it would be like making sure I had

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding appropriate phone case. Yeah, I mean it must

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<v Speaker 1>have been an inside joke between the girls. See for

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding you had a Christmas themed phone case on

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<v Speaker 1>which was red. Look. I didn't even I did not

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<v Speaker 1>cross my mind. Maybe I should have jumped on board

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<v Speaker 1>as a Bridesmagerah for dazzled phone case. Well, this vape

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<v Speaker 1>case was a big hit with her followers, with one

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<v Speaker 1>writing the bedazzled vape is sending me congratulations, darling girl,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst another said who knew a vape could look so elegant?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe this is an untapped market, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone's listening, that's a good business idea out. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just imagine this factory that like, fuck, we've just

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<v Speaker 1>started producing the bedazzled g strings from m's Hen's party,

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<v Speaker 1>now we need to get the vape cases out. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like so many of us were on wedding watch

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, particularly because there were so many high

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<v Speaker 1>profile wedding guests attending. Yeah, because Happy Hours. Lucy Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicki Wescott they were of course in attendance, so

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<v Speaker 1>they flew over from the Gold Coast and appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>rent out a house with Tammy Hembro and Renee and

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<v Speaker 1>Alisha Herbert, who I have to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to because they're actually triplets, so they have a brother,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be such an interesting died out because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>refers to them as the twins, but they're actually triplets.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be such an interesting dynamic to have two girls

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<v Speaker 1>and a brother, like to see who's closer. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>the girls are the closest. But so the girls actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a glam squad dropped by their accommodation, which led

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of confusion in the press because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of gossip journals assumed that this must be the

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<v Speaker 1>bride's house and that they all must be bridesmaid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It really didn't help that all of the girls wore

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<v Speaker 1>black bar Tammy. Tammy wore a very dark brown dress,

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<v Speaker 1>so they all looked like they were matching, and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw so many articles calling Tammy a bridesmaid. This was

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Daily Mail, and Tammy ended up posting

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<v Speaker 1>a selfie with the girls and wrote twenty nineteen called

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<v Speaker 1>now that was referring to the time that they all

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<v Speaker 1>used to hang out, that they were a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>it girls then now. One noticeable absentee was Tammy's husband,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Sakowski, and he didn't appear to be in attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>This was despite the couple recently attending one of his

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<v Speaker 1>friend's weddings over Valentine's Day. Yes, I thought maybe m

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<v Speaker 1>didn't include everyone's partners, but a super sleuth did get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with us, saying that they had a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>showing Matt Zakowski's name on m seeding plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This photo has since made its way online, and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that stuck out to me was that Matt's last

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<v Speaker 1>name was spelt incorrectly, so it was spelt Zabkowski with

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<v Speaker 1>a B whoops. Now. One follower wrote, clearly they dislike

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<v Speaker 1>him if they're spelling his name wrong. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>is quite a complicated name to spell. I feel sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for em because I made my own wedding sign and

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<v Speaker 1>I know the pressure of trying to get everyone spelling correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people noticed as well that Tammy's name

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<v Speaker 1>was just Tammy hembro On there, even though she has

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<v Speaker 1>taken Zakowski as her official name or Zubkowski Subkowski. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up sharing a photo of the wedding sign

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<v Speaker 1>on our Instagram story, and Matt sadly wrote in saying

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<v Speaker 1>that one of his family members was rushed to surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that is why he flew to Melbourne to

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<v Speaker 1>be with them and wasn't at the wedding. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>asked for privacy on that matter, so I felt quite

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for him because a lot of people were jumping

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<v Speaker 1>to conclusions that maybe the couple had had a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>so we just wanted to clear that one up for him. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a fun fact while we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>topic of Tammy and Matt is that em and Joel

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<v Speaker 1>hired the same social media content creator as them. So

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<v Speaker 1>the creator in question is Olivia Burrow's Sutherland, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has over one hundred and three thousand followers on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is just the it's social media content creator

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, especially for these high program and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it because she created a get Ready with Me

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<v Speaker 1>video ahead of the wedding explaining it's her first time

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<v Speaker 1>in wa and showing us what she wears for a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding like that, because for a lot of those creators,

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<v Speaker 1>it's highlight we've shot wedding videos before because you're a videographer,

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<v Speaker 1>am I was there merely assisting, but it's a long

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<v Speaker 1>day on your feet and you want to look nice,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to look distracting at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time and still be able to do all of the

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<v Speaker 1>physical labor room. I feel me same thing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she looks really good what she's wearing like she looked

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<v Speaker 1>smart but fashionable. I mean, there'd be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to show up to a wedding like that with

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<v Speaker 1>so many influences in attendance. Now, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Em was posting in real time on the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>her wedding, we didn't get to see professional photos for

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<v Speaker 1>three very long days, and many fans predicted that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there was such a big weight because EM might have

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<v Speaker 1>had a similar deal as Tammy did with Vogue. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't actually the case. It seemed like the couple were

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<v Speaker 1>soaking in all of the love and maybe they were

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<v Speaker 1>waiting still to get their photos back because I know

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<v Speaker 1>not all wedding photographers get you the photo back the

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<v Speaker 1>day after. I mean there's some editing involved. Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>get a handful, and you might not particularly like the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the photos that they've sent through, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of pressure on EM to share.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw so many TikTok videos of people saying that

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<v Speaker 1>they had eagerly been waiting. Let's have a listen to

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<v Speaker 1>one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>And Davies, I have them burone to pick with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been two days since your wedding and no one,

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<v Speaker 2>including yourself, has posted photos. I need to see your dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you would have multiple dresses. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>see the reception. I need to see Laala, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to see Lily. Joel, what is going on? Sort it out? Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>We are dying over here.

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<v Speaker 1>There was certainly a lot of hype, and EM's new husband, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>had to call for calm, so he shared a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of himself in his suit on Instagram because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, no one really cares what the groom

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<v Speaker 1>is wearing. That wasn't ruining anything, and he wrote, what

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend. We will share with everyone when we're ready

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<v Speaker 1>and slowly get back to all of your lovely messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Our daughter comes first. We are so in love with

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<v Speaker 1>each other, everyone who is in attendance, and we feel

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.160
<v Speaker 1>all the love from the messages you've shared with us online.

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I can see why there was so much interesting online

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 1>because Em initially sharing stuff on TikTok the morning of

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it really wets your appetite. You're like, right, okay, now

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for the photos. Yeah yeah, Well. Em also

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>had to remind her friends and family not to post

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>photos of her dress, so she shared on Instagram. Just

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a reminder to anyone who celebrated with us yesterday, please

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>hold off on posting until I do. It's sad that

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to remind people of that, but honestly, every

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>influencer wedding there seems to be some dickhead who ends

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>up sharing some grainy photo or even just friends' weddings.

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed there's not a lot of etiquette that goes on.

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It's always like a grandparent or a great aunt that

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I fucking photo as well, and you're like, I don't

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 1>want that to be the first one. It seemed like

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>someone maybe did share something and there was a bit

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of a dirty delete happened. Luckily that seemed to happen

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>quite quickly when you reflect as well. This wedding would

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 1>have been absolutely huge in Wa and it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see that no media ruined her dress revealed because like

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>they did with Tammy Hembro. Yeah, I think the difference

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is that m Davies she might be big in the

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>influencers space like the girl world, but I don't think

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>she's as big a celebrity to the likes of the

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Daily Mail or the everyday person. Doesn't seem to know

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 1>who she is as much as say someone like Tammy. Yeah,

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>she seems to be the people's princess in a way

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>because she's relatable, like you know her. Well, that's been

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a big change, though. I think it's only since she

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>really gave birth to her daughter that I think a

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of people have seen this other side to m Davy. Well,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>she seems to be one of the most beloved influencers

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>at the moment now. As we predicted, the photos, of course,

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>dropped on Tuesday night after our episode went to air. Now,

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>she shared a collection of photos from the day and wrote,

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>mister and missus Gamban the best weekend full of love.

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 1>We have no words. Here's a sneak peek because I

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>don't think I can keep you guys waiting any longer.

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>She looked stunning. Yeah, all of the photos. She's beautiful,

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>so elegant. The first photo showed em and Joel during

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>their ceremony at Fraser Gallup Estate, and she wore a

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 1>strapless gown with a corsett bodice and a flared skirt,

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>as well as a long veil with a lace trim.

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>The dress actually was quite similar to Tammy's apart from

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it was white and not pink, and

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people drew comparison between her veil and

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>also Nicky Westcott's veil that looked really elegant. That's what

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I took from. I thought, Wow, you look really classy,

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you look beautiful. It wasn't it wasn't like over the top,

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but it was just really timely, simple. And the thing

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is she is very fashion for she had her own

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>fashion line. There was so much controversy because she dared

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to wear a white gee string to a hen's party,

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of people thought maybe her

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>dress was going to be quite revealing or out there.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting something more daring, But we haven't seen

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the other dresses yet. I think we've got two other

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>dresses which she hasn't revealed. I think it's one of

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the best influencer dresses we've seen.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, the dress was from New York designer Danniel Frankel,

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>which was a really nice touch because they got engaged

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in New York. There was a lot of confusion because

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>people seemed to think it was a vera weighing dress

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>when she clearly outlined that it was from this designer. Yeah, well,

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Tick Brigade, as usual, were our enforced to

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>congratulate m. Tammy wrote best day, so happy for you,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>whilst Ruby Tuesday Matthew said oh sweet baby Jesus and

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Sabby Robinson wrote amazing, congratulations beautiful. Now Following the wedding,

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>em has since changed her name on Instagram, so in

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>her Instagram bio it reads Emily Gambon, but her handle

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>still remains M. Davies. Yeah. I understand my influencers do

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that because it'd be really difficult for people to be

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>able to search you they're so used to your maiden name.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Tammy Hembro did the same thing. She has Zakowski in

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>her Yeah. Now we have to talk about the reunion

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>between Lily Brown and Lucy and Nicky. So after EM's

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Hen's Party, there was a lot of speculation around how

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the three all navigated that weekend away together because they

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>have had a very publicized feud I and they're all

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>getting sick of talking about. Oh yeah, because on the

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Happy Hour podcast, Lucy and Nicky said that it was

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>all very civil at the Hen's party and it was

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>nowhere near as dramatic as everyone thought it was going

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to be. It did sound as though they were just

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>tolerating each other, though, and they were pleasant for MSA.

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>It didn't sound like they were friends by any means,

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why it was so special to

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>see a group photo pop up where em was in

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the middle in her wedding pajamas and she was surrounded

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>by Lily, Lucy and Nicki and they all had their

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>arms around each other and looked like they were in conversation.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>They were laughing, they were smiling, they looked on good

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>terms and as though they were trying to make a

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>real effort with each other. Yeah, and Em reposted the

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 1>photo and wrote, oh how this makes me so happy.

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I really feel like weddings bring out the best in people,

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>particularly and the worst. Well and the worst, but you

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>know when you're there, And I mean I kept seeing

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>em Rey sharing a lot of Instagram stories of her

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>friends basically recapping the wedding, saying how electric the feeling

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>was in the room and that it was such a

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>beautiful vibe. There was so much love. I think, particularly

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>with em losing her mum, maybe people put all of

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>their differences aside and thought, let's just be there for

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>her this argument is stupid. Yeah, well I think they've

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>all grown up as well. Yeah, definitely. This is Amy

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>coming to you from the future to let you know that.

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Just after editing up this podcast last night, m Davies

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>dropped some links to her Vogue photo shoots. So we

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>just want to acknowledge we are aware of the stunning

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>photos that came out of em and Joel's wedding, but

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>we weren't able to talk about them in today's podcast.

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we'll touch it on Tuesday. Let's get into our

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Friday debrief now. I have realized this week, Sophie, how

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>heavily pregnant I must look, because during a lot of

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>shoots we've had with our business, I have noticed so

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>many people rushing to my aid. Well, so they should

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>have mean, you're thirty two weeks pregnant. And I've been

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>feeling guilty because with Hula Media, you do all of

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>our videography work. I am not trained in filming, but

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm there to assist you. I produce, I ask all

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the questions, and I help her I can, but we

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>have had to buy a buggy to carry all of

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>our camera equipment in because it looks wrong to pregnant

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>women struggling with this equipment. Well, I remember having this

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>conversation when you became pregnant. I was like, Fuck, it's

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be super awkward with the business when we

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>both cup to shoots and we both look so pregnant,

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>because people are going to be like, what is going

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>on here? Well, I think I'm hiding it okay at

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the moment. But it is nice to see people actually

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>lending you a hand though, because I know we were

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>out on a work site yesterday and you were on

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the ground, sitting on the dirt getting your stabilizer together,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and this man's like, do you need me to help

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you out? When you tried to get up, and because

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of my stomach, I am thrown off center slightly and

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I have been relying on you to help give me

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a hand. This man, because I was wearing boots with

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a heel on it, I think he was like, holy fuck,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna absolutely stack it, and he ran over. I

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>also had a man at the tie takeaway shop who

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.479
<v Speaker 1>offered to take my box of takeaway to the car.

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was so sweet. I haven't had any

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>assistance yet. I haven't had anyone comment yet. Saying congratulations

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>in the store or anything like when I'm shopping or

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. You don't really look pregnant, though. Oh,

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I've really been feeling in the past couple of days.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a moment where your stomach just

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>pops and I feel like that that is happening. Right.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>We are still at that phase where it would be

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>rude for somebody to bring it up. It might be

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit on the fence about what's going on now.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to chat about a documentary I have become

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this week, and it is The American Manhunt

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>O J. Simpson. I have been telling anyone and everyone

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>about this documentary. I've watched so many OJ Simpson series before,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>whether they're like dramas or their documentaries. I'm so interested

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>in the case. And this documentary featured new interviews with

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of key figures from the investigation and also

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.479
<v Speaker 1>the trial. And what I found super interesting was that

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Ojay's former manager, Mike Gilbert was interviewed and he admitted

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that after the trial, and you know, there was a

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>few years after he finally got the courage to ask

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>oj what actually happened that night. So this was OJ

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was having to sell his house that he lived in

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>with Nicole, and I think apparently it was a very

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>emotional night, and OJ said, well, what do you think happened?

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And he said he didn't want to him, so he said,

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you didn't mate, and OJ replied something along

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the lines of, well, if Nicole didn't answer the door

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>with that knife, she'd still be alive today, which was

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>just so telling. Like my husband and I were just

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>so appalled watching it and so angry that the defense

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>case was able to make it about race instead of

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>being about the victims. Oh yeah, I mean, you watch

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that back and you think, how the hell did he

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>not go to jail? I mean, he clearly did it.

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think what makes this documentary so interesting is

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>this as one of the first documentaries that's been released

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>since OJ Simpson's deaths, and obviously defamation laws don't apply

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to the dead, so they're going there with this dot momentary.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I also think that there were a lot of friends

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>in OJ's life who felt uncomfortable to speak out against

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>him when he was still alive, even though maybe they

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>parted ways. I think that they didn't want the wrath

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of him afterwards. Well, I think that's all we've got

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>time for today. Thank you so much for listening to

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>another episode of Outspoken. Now, anyone who has listened to

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>our subs episode, I just want to say, hashtag free

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>my carpet cleaner. I've still not received it. And I

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>do want to point out that I could barely get

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a word in during that It was very difficult to

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>edit up that I say, I am so overhearing about

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>this carpet cleaner. So, for those who don't know, we

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>had an am I the asshole segment in our episode

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and Kate and Sophie decided to bring quite a personal

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>issue over to the subs. It was basically about Kate

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>not returning Sophie's carpet cleaner. One of Kate's excuses was

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that Sophie no longer has carpet in her house, so

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that means that she should get to keep the carpet cleaner.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>A pretty shit defense, I thought. I mean, her nose

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was growing by the second during that podcast. I'm want

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 1>to call her pinocchio. Well, she's not here to defend

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>claimed that she has not been using it. I know

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>from a good source she's been using it non stop

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and she's relying on this carpet cleaner anyway, source her

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>dogs anyway. It was quite a funny debate in there,

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but I was I was absolutely shocked to my core

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to see someone in our Facebook community deciding with Kate. So,

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>if anyone is team Sophie and thinks and praise for

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the release of my carpet cleaner, could you please let

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>me know we should put up a poll on the

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>guess we will. I actually sent a screenshot to my

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>husband being like, can you believe that someone is on

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Kate's side?

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? And it was a very very lovely listener.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm no offense to this listener, but there was a

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of deception during that podcast record. Kate was pulling

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of heartstrings. She kept mentioning that she

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>has an eight month old son. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of sympathy. I think I would have

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<v Speaker 1>got drunk if I took a shot every time she

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<v Speaker 1>said she had an eight month old child. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to cut out a few mentions of it. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Well, can I set the scene? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>actually had to leave halfway through this recording because I

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<v Speaker 1>had something to do. With work on, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were like in my house screaming over this carpet clean

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no one wants to hear it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so the conversation was heavily edited. Oh, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>cut out so much and it was so frustrating because

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<v Speaker 1>anytime Amy and I would make a point about the

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<v Speaker 1>carpet cleaner, Kate would yell over. So it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being her sob story when in actual fact she had

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<v Speaker 1>the carpet cleaner at ten weeks back. Again, she refuses

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<v Speaker 1>any she refuses to let me come and pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I've usd so many times saying I'll pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to pick this. This is becoming like the

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla and Karna fight where the water has been completely

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<v Speaker 1>muddied here. But should I slam her on my Instagram story?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I put out a few fucking comments about okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are interested in hearing that fight, which probably

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<v Speaker 1>after this description no one is, make sure you check

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<v Speaker 1>out on some episode. And if you haven't already and

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<v Speaker 1>you do like listening to the podcast, we would really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate if you could leave us a five star review

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<v Speaker 1>because it really helps out the podcast. This episode was

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<v Speaker 1>recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of

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<v Speaker 1>the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and

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<v Speaker 1>present