WEBVTT - #120 While The Cat's Away, The Mice Will Play 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:01.760 What do your feet look like, Shami? Yeah, no, I 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:06.600 need to see them. You've often how much money you've made? 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.559 That fucking pinky toe? Who is paying for that thing 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.160 that's hanging on for dear life? What is that? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.800 What is that? Guilty? Guilty? 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.160 I did make some money on a certain platform with 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:21.560 my feet. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.400 How fard you go up? Was it just feet? 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:44.519 Feet? And Dick? Welcome back to two doting dads. But 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.200 it's with a difference. Today it's with a doting mum. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.120 You interrupt me already. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.000 It's with a doting mum usually looking at Matt, but 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.640 now I've got the pleasure of looking at Matt's wife 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.440 and arguably the better parent, Laura Burn. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:58.640 Thank you for joining us. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.520 Definitely not the better parent. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:01.880 That will be the judge of that. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.520 I have been solo parenting for one week now and 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.319 everything surprisingly has been going okay. But I have some 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.199 very big choose to fill and I need to admit 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.440 because I feel like I should have done my research 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.680 and listened to some recent episodes just to get into 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.560 the listen to it keaven for a little bit. Okay, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.120 let me finish the intro then, thank you. I don't 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.440 know what stories Matt shared or whether I'm going to 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:25.720 be telling the truth. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:26.319 We'll find out. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.840 This is a parenting podcast, the good, the bad, and 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.760 the relatable, and we do not give any advice real 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.119 advice unless you want to take it anyway. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:35.840 Lauria doesn't listen to us. I've just found out. So 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.120 that's a good start. I do. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.600 I just have been so busy parenting this week that 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.640 haven't been able to listen as regularly as I would. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.679 I'm not used to running the episode and Matte usually 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.120 runs the episode, so please. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:46.480 Bear with me. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.400 Wow, this is Ash feeling completely out of his depth 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.080 right now? Do you feel confident? Do you feel comfortable? 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.680 How are you coping with my husband being away? 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.560 Look, I'm struggling. It's only been at three minutes. But 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.600 have you had a This is not about me, This 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:05.200 is about you. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.320 Okay, So Matt as I'm sure you guys are all 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.600 aware he's now in the I'm a celebrity jungle. By 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.200 the time you're listening to this, it would have been 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.360 on TV right there would have been a couple of episodes. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.400 Yeah, you potentially have played out. You should have been 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.800 like four days in or three days. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.560 What did Matt update you guys on before him going away. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.960 Did he tell you about how that went with the 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.680 kids and what this period for us has been like. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.960 Yeah, so he gave us an idea just how chaotic 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.919 it was in trying to get loose ends tied up. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.840 Yeah, so Matt told I mean, he kind of left 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.120 it really late. He told the girls that he was 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.520 going away to do the show, but he didn't really 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.000 think through the logistics of that. So firstly, he told 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.480 both the girls specifically that he was going to Africa 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.560 and he was going on a TV show called I'm 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:51.680 a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.400 As a five year old knows where Africa is. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.959 The the thing is she does. What she doesn't realize 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.799 is what ndeser. So Maley had been going to day it. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.000 Marley had been going to vacation care and telling every 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.919 single person, my dad's going on I'm a Celebrity, get 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:09.320 me out. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.560 Of here, and he's going to Africa. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.560 So we rocked up to pick Molley up from school 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.440 and this was like a week before he left, and 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:15.360 the teachers. 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.160 Were like, good luck. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.880 On the show, everyone knew, so I know it was 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.640 meant to be embargoed, but if you live in Bondai, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:26.200 three quarters of Marley, it's Marley May And he also 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.120 told Lola, and because Lola actually like kind of hates 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.400 Matt and doesn't really care if he's there or not. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:36.080 Unfortunately he's great dad, but he he's not Lola's favorite. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.560 Yeah, that's yeah. We've we did a period a whole 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:39.760 year on that. Yeah. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.800 So he broke it to her that he was going away, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:49.040 and her reaction to that was girl's Day and it 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.160 broke his goddamn heart. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.000 Oh, I bet because he's worked so hard at the 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.880 last twelve months of try and it's kind of pathetic 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.960 how hard you work, because he was like just trying 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.800 to win her over, and every and every time he 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.960 won her over last year, you'd come back into the 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.520 room or I think you were away for a little 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.160 while there, and it was Matt and the girls, and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.960 he was like, she's got no one else, so she's 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.839 stuck with me. So hopefully by the time that Laura 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:23.920 gets back, not forgotten about Laura. But I have evened 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.159 it up a little bit so that I am a parent, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.280 yeah straight away apparently. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.920 Almost almost, but she no to be fair, she goes 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.240 through these periods where she how do I describe it, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.159 It's like nah, nah, actually take it back now. She 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.120 always just wants me more. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.800 She's she's a manipulator. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.120 I've noticed she manipulates him, I know, but they're good 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.479 at it. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.400 Macy's also does the same thing. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.880 But one thing that stuck out for me was he 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.159 was like I had won her over, like we're vibing, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.080 it was all good, and. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.320 Then he said, I, he's your own daughter. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.120 He turned around two quick ones and she was behind 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.000 him and knocked her over. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:06.320 And that. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:10.320 Is the unraveling. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.279 And that's how quick it can unravel her. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.599 I've told Matt, I've tried to give him advice on this, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.280 because it is a real thing. It's called parental preference, right, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.000 when a child prefers one parent over the other. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.200 Is a real thing. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.480 Yeah, again, usually. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.280 Kind of a parenting podcast. I don't know that. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.080 Usually kids grow out of it at three. Lola is 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.160 almost four and showing absolutely no signs of growing out 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.719 of it anytime soon. But I like lovingly tried to 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.560 explain to Matt that I just think, like I think 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.280 Lola smells it on him. I think he reeks of desperation. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.560 We've said that. I said, I can smell it on 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.120 you from. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.960 Here, mate, and she reminds me of me. But when 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:48.880 I was like twenty years old, like I never wanted 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.839 to be around the nice guys, and he's so nice 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.159 to her. I was like, you just need to be 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:52.720 a little bit. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:53.640 More sassy. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:55.119 Again. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.120 Exactly right. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.840 She's taken all my toxic traits from my early dating years. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:05:59.520 That's what this is. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.359 But I think, look, six weeks of her having potentially, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.640 if he does well, thing has crossed everyone vote. Six 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.680 weeks of him being away, I feel as though either 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.000 it's gonna be it's gonna be like the real antithesis 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.800 of that, it's gonna be a real issue, or it's 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.080 gonna be the opposite. Because the other night at dinner time, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.159 like she had no one else to fight with, so 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.280 I was trying to get her fed and it was 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.880 a whole debacle and it ended in her storming up 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.520 the stairs and screaming, I want. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.440 Why dead out. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.040 I was like, fuck, if only was here to feel that, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.880 or he is so happy. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.400 I know, and no one was, like, no one was 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.120 there to fight with her, So she was like, fuck, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.799 no one If that's a kryptonite. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.560 Did Matt tell you before he went away that he 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.400 has a leg secret sign on the show for the girls? 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:46.279 No? 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.839 So, I mean it's gonna be hard for him. He's 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.920 been acting very much like in the last couple of 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.200 weeks that he's been pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.240 and then when it came actually to crunch time and 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.720 him going away, he got really emotional and he had 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.320 this station with the girls. He had a big cry. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.280 He's going to cry. Okay, here's my prediction. We put 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:06.159 a prediction out there. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:06.920 He had a big cry. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.159 This is my prediction on the show is that Matt 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.800 will cry a lot. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:10.800 He's the best. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.440 He'll cry a lot. And he'll also get snappy a lot. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.240 Because he gets snappy when he's hungry. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.760 I feel like that could be a really a good too, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.720 doting Dad's drinking game. If anyone's watching the show and 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.920 you want to know like when to drink, it's when 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.320 Matt cries and when he says something piece listeners. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:29.960 I love that guy. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.720 Matt can be a real fucking piece of work when 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.440 he's hungry, though, So that might come back to. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.520 About it work with him. Every day he has. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:40.920 This little sign where he's going to do like a 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.800 little love heart sign to the camera for the girls. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.360 I'm going to make it about me. You know, I'm 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.440 going to make that about me. We know who it's 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:50.120 really fall. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.440 And go, well, okay, how. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.880 Is this going to go over the next few weeks, 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.960 because obviously with Matt being gone, could be two weeks, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.160 could be six weeks. How many of these are we doing? 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.400 As many as you like? Is April doing? He is 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.400 like a contingency plan. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.360 Did she know that she's part of the contention plan? 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.960 Nod. I've got the valuum stock up stocked out so 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.680 we can get her on. That's the only way we 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.720 can get about voluum and a glass of wine. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.400 It'll be April just here like. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:19.520 She was. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.000 I watched that Mac go on TV the other night, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.920 any krad Al and I'm still drunk. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.080 All right, We'll see you back here every week. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.240 Then Matt gave was an update on Lola changing schools, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.040 because we are in January and there's a lot of 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.280 change happening, like my kids Marley going to a big school, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.880 Oscar going to big school, but Lola's had to change daycares. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.640 First of all, I want your side of the story. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.800 I'm really going to set mat up here, and I'm 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.160 really sorry Matt when you do hear this. What is 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.280 your thoughts on the changing of the school and what's 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.200 your side of the story of how it happens. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:02.679 I am horrified by everything, So okay, I feel as 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.199 though a decision was made that I was not a 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:05.600 part of. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.040 And to set the scene on there. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.400 So Lola's been going to one daycare since she was 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.400 about nine months old she's now almost four, Like she's 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.200 been going there pretty much her whole life. The daycare 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.240 teachers from that daycare are also some of her babysitters, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.959 Like she has her little friends there, Like she's so 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.760 ingrained in that daycare, and she's so confident there, and 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.640 we also know it's an amazing daycare. Likes it's really 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.800 really great. The annoying thing is is that it's probably 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.480 about a forty minute drive round trip to drop her 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.559 off in the mornings, because it's back where we used 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.280 to live. It's not far, but it's like the traffic 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:41.760 can be bad. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.959 In the morning. It's simmy everywhere. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:44.920 It's just annoying. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.960 Sometimes I look at the GPS and it's like five 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.040 k's thirty minutes. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.520 I'm like, what, it's exactly that, but it's actually it's 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.679 And also because Matt leaves it late, so he drops 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.920 her off during school time like smack on when all 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.800 the school kids which are across the road a going. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.079 So Matt he drops her off a couple of times 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.959 a week, but I also do the pickup, so I 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.760 pick her up on the way home from work, so 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.559 where her daycare was was more convenient for me for 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.720 a pickup, but more annoying for drop off. Cool establish 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.920 that he came home this one day and had the 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.120 idea that because Marley's going to school now, that he 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.160 was going to unenroll Lola from her daycare and enroll 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.240 her in a different daycare which is closer by three 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.000 minutes to us, but it's the same daycare that his 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.880 sister takes Lola's cousin too, so that way they can 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:30.760 co share. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.760 The drop of options. I like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.520 sure co share for co brother and sister parenting lovely. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.840 For only ten months though, because our niece is going 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.880 to go to school like next year, so there's only 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.559 ten months, so there's still going to be an additional 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.320 year where we have to do that ourselves. So great 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.520 in theory, but also not great in theory because when 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.880 that decision was made, I originally was like, hey, I 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.040 don't think this is a great idea, but it was 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.880 also preceded him going and doing I'm a celebrity, and 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.719 so I kind of felt like, Okay, well, if you're 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.640 not going to be here, surely the easiest and best 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.040 route should be the route that's like calm for Lola 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.760 and fine for her from a transition perspective, and also 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.559 for me since I'm doing all the pickups and drop offs, Like, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.520 why would we make a change that's actually going to 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.240 make my life harder over this six weeks than anyway. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.280 So we had many fights about it. I lost. She's 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.599 now going to a different daycare, and she fucking hates it. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.880 And yesterday, no wonder she hates him, she hates it. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.840 Yesterday she cried from the second I dropped Maley at 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.480 school the whole way there, and then held onto her 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.839 car seat, screaming as I pulled her out to take 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.600 her inside. And so this is my question to you, Ash. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.079 Matt is no longer here, which means he can't make 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.480 parenting decisions. Am I the asshole? If at the four 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.120 week mark and he's not home and I'm still dealing 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.560 with this, can I unenroll her and send her back 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:55.240 to the old daycare? 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:00.319 Send it back now, Send it back now time he 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.079 gets back. Whenever he gets back, it's going to be 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.079 too late. But when this comes out, he won't be 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:05.679 able to hear it. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.160 So by the time he actually hears this, she'll be 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.199 probably two or three weeks deep and back. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.480 And it's like, leave earlier. Bro, It's it's so hard that. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.560 I mean, anyone who's been through the process of trying 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.199 to change their kids to a new daycare, it's it's 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.839 like it is soul crushing. And when you have to 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.240 leave your kid with a stranger and they're screaming, crying 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.320 and their friends aren't there and they've got no friends. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.280 And I got into the car and I just burst 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.760 out crying. I was so sad because she. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.400 Cried in the car or not, because that's the thing. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.240 You can't You shouldn't cry in front of them because 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.880 then they think I'm never going to see you again. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.920 Don't cry. Don't cry on the show. Actually cry, that'd 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:43.880 be great for the socials. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:45.319 Cry damn it. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.599 I couldn't. I had to let she was holding it 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.640 to Actually she wasn't holding it together. I was holding 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.320 it together. Yeah, And I was just devastated for her 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.719 and she the next day I picked her up and 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.520 she was like, Mommy, I have no friends. I don't 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.080 know anyone's name, like, she was so so sad. Yeah, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.920 and I'm not used to her being sad. I'm used 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.880 to her being like a fucking ruller recog. She's like, yeah, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.000 she's like my sassy kind of like a little bit angsty, angry, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.079 little four year old that nothing phases, and here she 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.360 is being all sad and vulnerable. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:15.880 It broke me. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.120 Oscar's going to big school this year. But just with 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.760 work and stuff, we've got to do the odd casual day. Yeah, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.680 because April's back at work and I'm here, back at work, and. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.760 I very hard. It's good to see I'm hard work. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:32.160 I had an app today. You started at two thirty. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.800 I literally did, what time is it? I'm done. It's 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:38.880 two forty two, I'm done. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:45.000 I So I dropped him and Macy off yesterday and 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.760 none of his friends were there, but Macy had friends there. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.880 And then I was like oh, I was really I 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:52.920 was actually really worried. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.520 And I drove past and Oscar was playing with Macy 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.760 and someone else's playing, and I rang April up. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.800 I'm like, none of his friends. I feel terrible, and 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.280 you do feel bad? 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:04.400 Did he cry? 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:05.079 Was there any tea? 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.719 No, he's sort of like at the stage now where 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.960 he's like if Macey's there, he's pretty happy. He's chill 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.600 because he'll look after Macy all day. He'll play whatever 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.520 Macy's playing. And thankfully he came home yesterday and some 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.120 of his friends arrived after I'd left. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.560 If he was hysterical, what would you do? 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.120 I've gone back in and got him and spent the 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:26.640 day with him. I've done that once. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.480 That is shocking to me. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:29.720 What do you mean? 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.240 I wouldn't have picked that, or that I've got a heart. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:37.440 Not that. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.040 But just like I think that because I worry, and 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.840 I thought about going back in and getting her and 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.600 being like, oh, just I'm not doing this today, like 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.640 I'll just stay home from work and be with you. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.480 But then I thought that if I did that, I 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.520 would actually just make it worse for the next day. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.880 I thought I would just reinforce that if she has 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.000 a huge tantrum and she cries her eyes out that 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.480 then more Mum would just come back and get me. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.880 Yeah. See the difference here was it wasn't it was, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.400 it was a different cry. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.640 I love that because I think that, I mean, it's 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.080 very surprisingly sentimental of you, Oush and vulnerable, but I 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.240 think that you can sew, you can so deeply second 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.560 guess what's the right thing to do, and everyone always 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.640 tells you, oh, well when they when you walk away, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.040 they're fine fifteen minutes later, like that's kind of the 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:19.120 thought when. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.800 And majority of the time that that could be the case. Yeah, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:22.480 but it. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.400 Hasn't been for us this time with Lola, and I 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.000 know that this is going to be a few weeks 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.640 and it's going to be really hard. It just kind 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.560 of sucks that it's coincided when Matt's not here. Had day, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.120 but I will, but I will tend to pick her up. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.600 At the end of the day, she'd been there to 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.560 four point thirty and she just looked like she'd been 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.120 crying all day, and the teachers said, yeah, she cried 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.680 on an awful day and often was saying how much 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.360 she misses you, and asked when you're coming to pick 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.760 her up, and I don't know, Like I mean, I 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.520 know that she is resilient, and I know that she 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.200 will be fine the more that we stick to it, 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.720 But I don't know if I have that resilience in parenting. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.840 And then you have that big question of You're like, well, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.640 is this one of those moments where like it's going 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.920 to be better for her in the long run. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.480 I don't know. He sees you being resilient about it. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.960 She might be more resilient about it too. You just 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.320 give up, and what sort of message does that leave? 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.520 So I shouldn't send her back to her audation podcast 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.440 now sorry, where we unpack our feelings, hold each other 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.480 and cry, and maybe it won't just be Matt crying 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.200 I will also be growing by the end of the 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:18.800 show as well. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.280 I would give it how long has been two weeks? 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.280 In two weeks? Give it another week? Okay, that's true. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.240 I had planned on giving it four to six weeks, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.080 So like I was going to give it potentially until 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.400 that comes home. Is this I do hope he stays 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.400 in there longer than two weeks, Like if he comes 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.400 home first, I think we've overshot it with how excited 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.520 we've been and how much like. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.280 Whoa you better do? Really well? Imagine if he gets 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.920 out first, I don't think so, it'd be worse than 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:50.520 him in there, Like there has to be someone If 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.760 ray Gun goes in, she's out first, surely do you 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.040 know what they'll say, there's no kangaroos alouded here and 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:58.200 now bounce you away out of here. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.160 There's been so many I think it's a very big 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.400 possibility it is going to be her by the time 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.600 this comes out. Well know, so like we're all going 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.440 to know that she's in there or not. But anyway, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.240 well that is all the updates in the Burne Johnson household. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.520 I can't wait for a couple of days. I want 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.080 to see the girl's reaction. I'm going to watch this season. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.840 Are you going to come to our house potentially on 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:21.440 Sunday night? 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.320 You guys should, That's a great idea, come. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.200