1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: What do your feet look like, Shami? Yeah, no, I 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: need to see them. You've often how much money you've made? 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: That fucking pinky toe? Who is paying for that thing 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: that's hanging on for dear life? What is that? 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: What is that? Guilty? Guilty? 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: I did make some money on a certain platform with 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: my feet. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: How fard you go up? Was it just feet? 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: Feet? And Dick? Welcome back to two doting dads. But 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: it's with a difference. Today it's with a doting mum. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: You interrupt me already. 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: It's with a doting mum usually looking at Matt, but 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: now I've got the pleasure of looking at Matt's wife 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: and arguably the better parent, Laura Burn. 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Definitely not the better parent. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: That will be the judge of that. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I have been solo parenting for one week now and 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: everything surprisingly has been going okay. But I have some 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: very big choose to fill and I need to admit 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: because I feel like I should have done my research 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: and listened to some recent episodes just to get into 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: the listen to it keaven for a little bit. Okay, 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: let me finish the intro then, thank you. I don't 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: know what stories Matt shared or whether I'm going to 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: be telling the truth. 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: We'll find out. 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: This is a parenting podcast, the good, the bad, and 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: the relatable, and we do not give any advice real 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: advice unless you want to take it anyway. 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Lauria doesn't listen to us. I've just found out. So 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: that's a good start. I do. 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: I just have been so busy parenting this week that 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: haven't been able to listen as regularly as I would. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm not used to running the episode and Matte usually 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: runs the episode, so please. 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: Bear with me. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Wow, this is Ash feeling completely out of his depth 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: right now? Do you feel confident? Do you feel comfortable? 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: How are you coping with my husband being away? 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Look, I'm struggling. It's only been at three minutes. But 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: have you had a This is not about me, This 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: is about you. 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So Matt as I'm sure you guys are all 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: aware he's now in the I'm a celebrity jungle. By 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the time you're listening to this, it would have been 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: on TV right there would have been a couple of episodes. 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you potentially have played out. You should have been 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: like four days in or three days. 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: What did Matt update you guys on before him going away. 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Did he tell you about how that went with the 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: kids and what this period for us has been like. 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he gave us an idea just how chaotic 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: it was in trying to get loose ends tied up. 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Matt told I mean, he kind of left 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: it really late. He told the girls that he was 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: going away to do the show, but he didn't really 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: think through the logistics of that. So firstly, he told 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: both the girls specifically that he was going to Africa 60 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and he was going on a TV show called I'm 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: As a five year old knows where Africa is. 63 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: The the thing is she does. What she doesn't realize 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: is what ndeser. So Maley had been going to day it. 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Marley had been going to vacation care and telling every 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: single person, my dad's going on I'm a Celebrity, get 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: me out. 68 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Of here, and he's going to Africa. 69 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: So we rocked up to pick Molley up from school 70 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: and this was like a week before he left, and 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the teachers. 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: Were like, good luck. 73 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: On the show, everyone knew, so I know it was 74 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: meant to be embargoed, but if you live in Bondai, 75 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: three quarters of Marley, it's Marley May And he also 76 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: told Lola, and because Lola actually like kind of hates 77 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: Matt and doesn't really care if he's there or not. 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he's great dad, but he he's not Lola's favorite. 79 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah. We've we did a period a whole 80 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: year on that. Yeah. 81 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So he broke it to her that he was going away, 82 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: and her reaction to that was girl's Day and it 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: broke his goddamn heart. 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Oh, I bet because he's worked so hard at the 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: last twelve months of try and it's kind of pathetic 86 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: how hard you work, because he was like just trying 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: to win her over, and every and every time he 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: won her over last year, you'd come back into the 89 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: room or I think you were away for a little 90 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: while there, and it was Matt and the girls, and 91 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: he was like, she's got no one else, so she's 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: stuck with me. So hopefully by the time that Laura 93 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: gets back, not forgotten about Laura. But I have evened 94 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: it up a little bit so that I am a parent, 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: yeah straight away apparently. 96 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: Almost almost, but she no to be fair, she goes 97 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: through these periods where she how do I describe it, 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: It's like nah, nah, actually take it back now. She 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: always just wants me more. 100 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: She's she's a manipulator. 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: I've noticed she manipulates him, I know, but they're good 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: at it. 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: Macy's also does the same thing. 104 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: But one thing that stuck out for me was he 105 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: was like I had won her over, like we're vibing, 106 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: it was all good, and. 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Then he said, I, he's your own daughter. 108 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: He turned around two quick ones and she was behind 109 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: him and knocked her over. 110 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: And that. 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Is the unraveling. 112 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: And that's how quick it can unravel her. 113 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: I've told Matt, I've tried to give him advice on this, 114 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: because it is a real thing. It's called parental preference, right, 115 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: when a child prefers one parent over the other. 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: Is a real thing. 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, usually. 118 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: Kind of a parenting podcast. I don't know that. 119 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Usually kids grow out of it at three. Lola is 120 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: almost four and showing absolutely no signs of growing out 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: of it anytime soon. But I like lovingly tried to 122 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: explain to Matt that I just think, like I think 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: Lola smells it on him. I think he reeks of desperation. 124 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: We've said that. I said, I can smell it on 125 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: you from. 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Here, mate, and she reminds me of me. But when 127 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: I was like twenty years old, like I never wanted 128 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: to be around the nice guys, and he's so nice 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: to her. I was like, you just need to be 130 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. 131 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: More sassy. 132 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 3: Again. 133 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Exactly right. 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: She's taken all my toxic traits from my early dating years. 135 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: That's what this is. 136 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: But I think, look, six weeks of her having potentially, 137 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: if he does well, thing has crossed everyone vote. Six 138 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: weeks of him being away, I feel as though either 139 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be like the real antithesis 140 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: of that, it's gonna be a real issue, or it's 141 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the opposite. Because the other night at dinner time, 142 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: like she had no one else to fight with, so 143 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: I was trying to get her fed and it was 144 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: a whole debacle and it ended in her storming up 145 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: the stairs and screaming, I want. 146 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Why dead out. 147 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, if only was here to feel that, 148 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: or he is so happy. 149 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: I know, and no one was, like, no one was 150 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: there to fight with her, So she was like, fuck, 151 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: no one If that's a kryptonite. 152 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Did Matt tell you before he went away that he 153 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: has a leg secret sign on the show for the girls? 154 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: No? 155 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: So, I mean it's gonna be hard for him. He's 156 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: been acting very much like in the last couple of 157 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: weeks that he's been pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, 158 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and then when it came actually to crunch time and 159 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: him going away, he got really emotional and he had 160 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: this station with the girls. He had a big cry. 161 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: He's going to cry. Okay, here's my prediction. We put 162 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: a prediction out there. 163 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: He had a big cry. 164 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: This is my prediction on the show is that Matt 165 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: will cry a lot. 166 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: He's the best. 167 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: He'll cry a lot. And he'll also get snappy a lot. 168 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: Because he gets snappy when he's hungry. 169 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that could be a really a good too, 170 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: doting Dad's drinking game. If anyone's watching the show and 171 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you want to know like when to drink, it's when 172 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Matt cries and when he says something piece listeners. 173 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: I love that guy. 174 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Matt can be a real fucking piece of work when 175 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: he's hungry, though, So that might come back to. 176 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: About it work with him. Every day he has. 177 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: This little sign where he's going to do like a 178 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: little love heart sign to the camera for the girls. 179 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to make it about me. You know, I'm 180 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: going to make that about me. We know who it's 181 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: really fall. 182 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: And go, well, okay, how. 183 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Is this going to go over the next few weeks, 184 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: because obviously with Matt being gone, could be two weeks, 185 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: could be six weeks. How many of these are we doing? 186 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: As many as you like? Is April doing? He is 187 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: like a contingency plan. 188 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Did she know that she's part of the contention plan? 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: Nod. I've got the valuum stock up stocked out so 190 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: we can get her on. That's the only way we 191 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: can get about voluum and a glass of wine. 192 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: It'll be April just here like. 193 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: She was. 194 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: I watched that Mac go on TV the other night, 195 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: any krad Al and I'm still drunk. 196 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you back here every week. 197 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: Then Matt gave was an update on Lola changing schools, 198 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: because we are in January and there's a lot of 199 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: change happening, like my kids Marley going to a big school, 200 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: Oscar going to big school, but Lola's had to change daycares. 201 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: First of all, I want your side of the story. 202 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm really going to set mat up here, and I'm 203 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: really sorry Matt when you do hear this. What is 204 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the changing of the school and what's 205 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: your side of the story of how it happens. 206 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: I am horrified by everything, So okay, I feel as 207 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: though a decision was made that I was not a 208 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: part of. 209 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: And to set the scene on there. 210 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: So Lola's been going to one daycare since she was 211 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: about nine months old she's now almost four, Like she's 212 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: been going there pretty much her whole life. The daycare 213 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: teachers from that daycare are also some of her babysitters, 214 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: Like she has her little friends there, Like she's so 215 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: ingrained in that daycare, and she's so confident there, and 216 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: we also know it's an amazing daycare. Likes it's really 217 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: really great. The annoying thing is is that it's probably 218 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: about a forty minute drive round trip to drop her 219 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: off in the mornings, because it's back where we used 220 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: to live. It's not far, but it's like the traffic 221 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: can be bad. 222 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: In the morning. It's simmy everywhere. 223 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: It's just annoying. 224 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes I look at the GPS and it's like five 225 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: k's thirty minutes. 226 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, it's exactly that, but it's actually it's 227 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: And also because Matt leaves it late, so he drops 228 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: her off during school time like smack on when all 229 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: the school kids which are across the road a going. 230 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: So Matt he drops her off a couple of times 231 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: a week, but I also do the pickup, so I 232 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: pick her up on the way home from work, so 233 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: where her daycare was was more convenient for me for 234 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: a pickup, but more annoying for drop off. Cool establish 235 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: that he came home this one day and had the 236 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: idea that because Marley's going to school now, that he 237 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: was going to unenroll Lola from her daycare and enroll 238 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: her in a different daycare which is closer by three 239 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: minutes to us, but it's the same daycare that his 240 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: sister takes Lola's cousin too, so that way they can 241 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: co share. 242 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: The drop of options. I like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 243 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: sure co share for co brother and sister parenting lovely. 244 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: For only ten months though, because our niece is going 245 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: to go to school like next year, so there's only 246 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: ten months, so there's still going to be an additional 247 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: year where we have to do that ourselves. So great 248 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in theory, but also not great in theory because when 249 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: that decision was made, I originally was like, hey, I 250 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: don't think this is a great idea, but it was 251 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: also preceded him going and doing I'm a celebrity, and 252 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: so I kind of felt like, Okay, well, if you're 253 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: not going to be here, surely the easiest and best 254 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: route should be the route that's like calm for Lola 255 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: and fine for her from a transition perspective, and also 256 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: for me since I'm doing all the pickups and drop offs, Like, 257 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: why would we make a change that's actually going to 258 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: make my life harder over this six weeks than anyway. 259 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: So we had many fights about it. I lost. She's 260 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: now going to a different daycare, and she fucking hates it. 261 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: And yesterday, no wonder she hates him, she hates it. 262 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Yesterday she cried from the second I dropped Maley at 263 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: school the whole way there, and then held onto her 264 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: car seat, screaming as I pulled her out to take 265 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: her inside. And so this is my question to you, Ash. 266 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: Matt is no longer here, which means he can't make 267 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: parenting decisions. Am I the asshole? If at the four 268 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: week mark and he's not home and I'm still dealing 269 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: with this, can I unenroll her and send her back 270 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: to the old daycare? 271 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: Send it back now, Send it back now time he 272 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: gets back. Whenever he gets back, it's going to be 273 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: too late. But when this comes out, he won't be 274 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: able to hear it. 275 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: So by the time he actually hears this, she'll be 276 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: probably two or three weeks deep and back. 277 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: And it's like, leave earlier. Bro, It's it's so hard that. 278 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who's been through the process of trying 279 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: to change their kids to a new daycare, it's it's 280 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: like it is soul crushing. And when you have to 281 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: leave your kid with a stranger and they're screaming, crying 282 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: and their friends aren't there and they've got no friends. 283 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: And I got into the car and I just burst 284 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: out crying. I was so sad because she. 285 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: Cried in the car or not, because that's the thing. 286 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: You can't You shouldn't cry in front of them because 287 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: then they think I'm never going to see you again. 288 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: Don't cry. Don't cry on the show. Actually cry, that'd 289 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: be great for the socials. 290 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: Cry damn it. 291 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I had to let she was holding it 292 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: to Actually she wasn't holding it together. I was holding 293 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: it together. Yeah, And I was just devastated for her 294 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: and she the next day I picked her up and 295 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: she was like, Mommy, I have no friends. I don't 296 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: know anyone's name, like, she was so so sad. Yeah, 297 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not used to her being sad. I'm used 298 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to her being like a fucking ruller recog. She's like, yeah, 299 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: she's like my sassy kind of like a little bit angsty, angry, 300 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: little four year old that nothing phases, and here she 301 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: is being all sad and vulnerable. 302 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: It broke me. 303 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Oscar's going to big school this year. But just with 304 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: work and stuff, we've got to do the odd casual day. Yeah, 305 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: because April's back at work and I'm here, back at work, and. 306 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: I very hard. It's good to see I'm hard work. 307 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: I had an app today. You started at two thirty. 308 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: I literally did, what time is it? I'm done. It's 309 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: two forty two, I'm done. 310 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: I So I dropped him and Macy off yesterday and 311 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: none of his friends were there, but Macy had friends there. 312 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: And then I was like oh, I was really I 313 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: was actually really worried. 314 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: And I drove past and Oscar was playing with Macy 315 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: and someone else's playing, and I rang April up. 316 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, none of his friends. I feel terrible, and 317 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: you do feel bad? 318 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Did he cry? 319 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: Was there any tea? 320 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 3: No, he's sort of like at the stage now where 321 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: he's like if Macey's there, he's pretty happy. He's chill 322 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: because he'll look after Macy all day. He'll play whatever 323 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: Macy's playing. And thankfully he came home yesterday and some 324 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: of his friends arrived after I'd left. 325 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: If he was hysterical, what would you do? 326 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: I've gone back in and got him and spent the 327 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: day with him. I've done that once. 328 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: That is shocking to me. 329 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 330 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have picked that, or that I've got a heart. 331 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: Not that. 332 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: But just like I think that because I worry, and 333 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I thought about going back in and getting her and 334 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: being like, oh, just I'm not doing this today, like 335 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I'll just stay home from work and be with you. 336 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: But then I thought that if I did that, I 337 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: would actually just make it worse for the next day. 338 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I thought I would just reinforce that if she has 339 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: a huge tantrum and she cries her eyes out that 340 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: then more Mum would just come back and get me. 341 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. See the difference here was it wasn't it was, 342 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: it was a different cry. 343 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: I love that because I think that, I mean, it's 344 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: very surprisingly sentimental of you, Oush and vulnerable, but I 345 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: think that you can sew, you can so deeply second 346 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: guess what's the right thing to do, and everyone always 347 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: tells you, oh, well when they when you walk away, 348 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: they're fine fifteen minutes later, like that's kind of the 349 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: thought when. 350 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: And majority of the time that that could be the case. Yeah, 351 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: but it. 352 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Hasn't been for us this time with Lola, and I 353 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: know that this is going to be a few weeks 354 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to be really hard. It just kind 355 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: of sucks that it's coincided when Matt's not here. Had day, 356 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: but I will, but I will tend to pick her up. 357 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, she'd been there to 358 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: four point thirty and she just looked like she'd been 359 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: crying all day, and the teachers said, yeah, she cried 360 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: on an awful day and often was saying how much 361 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: she misses you, and asked when you're coming to pick 362 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: her up, and I don't know, Like I mean, I 363 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: know that she is resilient, and I know that she 364 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: will be fine the more that we stick to it, 365 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I have that resilience in parenting. 366 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: And then you have that big question of You're like, well, 367 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: is this one of those moments where like it's going 368 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: to be better for her in the long run. 369 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. He sees you being resilient about it. 370 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: She might be more resilient about it too. You just 371 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: give up, and what sort of message does that leave? 372 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: So I shouldn't send her back to her audation podcast 373 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: now sorry, where we unpack our feelings, hold each other 374 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: and cry, and maybe it won't just be Matt crying 375 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I will also be growing by the end of the 376 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: show as well. 377 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: I would give it how long has been two weeks? 378 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: In two weeks? Give it another week? Okay, that's true. 379 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I had planned on giving it four to six weeks, 380 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: So like I was going to give it potentially until 381 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: that comes home. Is this I do hope he stays 382 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: in there longer than two weeks, Like if he comes 383 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: home first, I think we've overshot it with how excited 384 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: we've been and how much like. 385 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Whoa you better do? Really well? Imagine if he gets 386 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: out first, I don't think so, it'd be worse than 387 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: him in there, Like there has to be someone If 388 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: ray Gun goes in, she's out first, surely do you 389 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: know what they'll say, there's no kangaroos alouded here and 390 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: now bounce you away out of here. 391 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: There's been so many I think it's a very big 392 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: possibility it is going to be her by the time 393 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: this comes out. Well know, so like we're all going 394 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: to know that she's in there or not. But anyway, 395 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: well that is all the updates in the Burne Johnson household. 396 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: I can't wait for a couple of days. I want 397 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: to see the girl's reaction. I'm going to watch this season. 398 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Are you going to come to our house potentially on 399 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: Sunday night? 400 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: You guys should, That's a great idea, come. 401 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: And do a watch party. I've invited a lot of 402 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: people over. 403 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: But can I be drunk? 404 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you stay, stay the night, do have. 405 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: An event in the afternoon, but I can come afterwards 406 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: because I'm a busy man. You are so popular. 407 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to the basketball Okay, so you will be drunk. Great, perfect, 408 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: that's exactly how I like you. Actually ash what has 409 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: been happening in your household. 410 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: She's taken it upon herself to toilet train herself. 411 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Well done. I always knew she was a genius. 412 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Well we look, we're trying to we're trying to toilet 413 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: train her, but only because she's pretty much forcing it 414 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: upon us. She's just keep taking a nappy off everywhere. 415 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: So we're and we're look, we highly encourage it straight away. 416 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: How old is Macy now? 417 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: Just three? 418 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: It's time? 419 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like with her and I 420 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: was like, oh sweet, because we were going to anyway. 421 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: So how do you go about the toilet training? Like, 422 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: how do you approach this? 423 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: So during the day, we're in undies and it's the 424 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: constant do you need to go the toilet? What do 425 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: you do if you go to need to go the toilet? 426 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: She's got a little toilet shaped potty, like a proper 427 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: looking toilet thing, which she loves. 428 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: It's pink, it's. 429 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Beautiful, gorgeous. 430 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: I wish I had one when she goes. When we 431 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: can get you on from child size there, yeah, I'd 432 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: use it. Although we've I've heard about your shits. It's 433 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: full to the single use single they are because you 434 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: can take it out, put it in the toilet, wash it. 435 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: Obviously she loves it. But she just disappears, like where's Macey? 436 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: And you looked down the hall and she's sitting on it, 437 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: which is great. So she's really good. She the first 438 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: little while, she would just I don't know with kids, 439 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: if they're into something, they're doing something, they just piss, 440 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: right what like? 441 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: So like early time, you mean she's distracted, she's not 442 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: thinking about the toilet. 443 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: She's real simple. She'll just weak because you think she 444 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: forgets that she's not in a nappy anymore. 445 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: Do you have underwear on her? 446 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 447 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Okay, that's where you're going wrong. Pantless so no pants 448 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: at all, and you just like you have to just 449 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: suck it up and do three days staying at home. 450 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Don't stuck the piss up, just stay at home. 451 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh damn, easy, clean up a paper straw for the environment. 452 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: I've think of the turtles. 453 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: You've got to do three days of no pants, no underwear, 454 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: just be at home. So it's like as close to 455 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: the potty as possible, so she can easily access it. 456 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: But it's almost like I find that having them with 457 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: no pants on is their constant reminder that when they 458 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: need to go, they need to go to the toilet, 459 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: where when they've got underwear on, they think it's a nappy, 460 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: so they're not actually thinking about the fact that they 461 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: need to go. 462 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: So I am. 463 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, one thing that I think we we didn't 464 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: have as many struggles with when it comes to like parenting, 465 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: was the potty training thing. I had a friend who 466 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: was like, just once you've made the decision, don't. 467 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: Do any of this. 468 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh, we'll put a nappy when we go out of 469 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: the house and then we'll They're like, you just got 470 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: to You've got to bite the bullet. You gotta go 471 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: three days, hardcore, no pants for three days, just stay 472 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: at home, and within three days they will be so 473 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: close to being potty trained that you can like manage 474 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: it way better. 475 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: We're way past the three days, okay, unfortunately, but like 476 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: we still wears a nappy when she goes to bed, 477 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: because yeah, of course she every fucking day long still 478 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: has a nappy. Yeah, but she takes it off even 479 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: when we were leaving the house. We're still in Undie's work. 480 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: We had ditched the nappies during the day, which is 481 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: great because then we'd be like, we can't go anywhere 482 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: into your weed, right, And I think it was like 483 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 3: two or three days in it was really just after Christmas, 484 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: and we were to this new park that's sort of 485 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: been done up near our place in the afternoon. 486 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Great and it's got like a really big, windy slide, 487 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: amazing fun. 488 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: Kids are playing, having a great time and this is 489 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: going it's perfect. And I'm at the bottom of the 490 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: slide and I just see a trickle of what I 491 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: thought at the time was water and it slightly built 492 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: up a puddle at the bottom of the slide, and 493 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck. 494 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: There's kids. There's more than just my kids there. I 495 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck is this? 496 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: And I was like, maybe someone's poured like a bottle 497 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: of water down there. And then Macy comes sliding into 498 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: her own pool of pits. 499 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: It's Macy's own water slide. 500 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: She literally and I was like, what the fuck and 501 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: she slipped her and then she gets off the slide 502 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: and goes it's wet, like she. 503 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: Didn't know, and I was like, fuck, how'd you pack 504 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: spare clothes. 505 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: We did. 506 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: We packed spare clothes, thankfully, but like we didn't have 507 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: any wipes to wipe this slide down. 508 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Fuck it, that's someone else's problem. Macey's got her own 509 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: wet and wild going on. She's just like who can't 510 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: put over Christmas? 511 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: So I got the what she was in. She was 512 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: in a dress. 513 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: I took the dress off, put her in a new dress. 514 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: I sent oscar up there with the wet dress to 515 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: come back down the slide to clean the wee off 516 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: the slide. 517 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: That was very responsible of you. I can't be sure 518 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: that I would have done that. 519 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: There was people right there, and I think they would 520 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: have walked away if there was no one there, I'll 521 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: believe in that piece of dry out. 522 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: It's like when your dog does a poo but it's 523 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: nighttime and you're like, could I get away with this? 524 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: Should I pick this up? Or the always I always do? 525 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Always the fake pick up my old man does used 526 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: to do. The fake pick up is the. 527 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Fake pickup where you just pick up next to it, 528 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: but you don't actually pick it up. Yeah, don't know 529 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. 530 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Me where these things, my friends where it would be 531 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: like if you had went to go pick up your 532 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 3: dog shit. 533 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: Everyone someone would fill me been. 534 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: Like, oh. 535 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: So childish. 536 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: There is still so from when Matt and I like 537 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: when The Bachelor was on air a million years ago. 538 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: Now there is still Pat pictures and it's a series 539 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: of Pat pictures of just of me picking. 540 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: Up dog shit. That's good gear. 541 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: And it was a full Daily Mail article just about 542 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: me being environmentally conscious and how I clean up after 543 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: my dog. 544 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: So if anyone know you eat it after. 545 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: Tough times back. 546 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I feel like. 547 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: With dog shit is if you don't pick it up, 548 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: you're just going to step in it along the line. 549 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: It's a cycle. 550 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: I think like karma, it's karma. 551 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: I saw this fantastic TikTok or Instagram or something the 552 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: other day and this mum was talking about how she 553 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: was going through the stage of potty training, right, and 554 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: she said, the thing that's the hardest is when you 555 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: know that your kid has done a shit somewhere, but 556 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you just don't know where, right, so I can smell it, 557 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: I know that it's happened. 558 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: You become a bloodhound like a truffle pig. 559 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: So she was walking around the house documenting like where 560 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: is the turd? 561 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: Where is it? It's got to be somewhere. That'd be 562 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: a really good idea for a book. And where's the book? 563 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: Where's the turd? 564 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: And the little boy has fallen asleep. He's asleep like 565 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: next to the couch, so he hasn't fallen asleep in 566 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: his bed. He's asleep just like next to the couch 567 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: on the ground. The mom's walking around trying to find 568 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the pooh oh. She finds it. It's in his hands, 569 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: holding on to it next. 570 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: To his head. 571 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll try and find this. It was absolute goal. 572 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: How comforting. 573 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: You know how kids have that aversion where they think 574 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: it's theirs, like they sometimes kids get upset when you 575 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: flush it down a toilet or whatever because it's their 576 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: part of their body. 577 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was just holding on I store all 578 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: my semen, jess face. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 579 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: Where do you put it? 580 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: Where do you put it? Never you mind? Yeah? Sorry? 581 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: To sell it on only fans, you would do something. 582 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: It would be a slide business completely. 583 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: There's no swimmers in there, I know. 584 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: But it's like the woman who sells her farts like 585 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: it's of no use, but like someone buys it really 586 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: there's a woman on Yeah, there's a selles of farts. Yeah, 587 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: there's another person that they're unfit sweat the dark holes 588 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: I go down on the internet. 589 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: You never you mind? How much money can I make? 590 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Do you think? 591 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know? 592 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: Ash? 593 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: How much did you make from selling. 594 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: Feet of your business? None of your business anyway? 595 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, Like I know, when when I changed Macy's nappy, 596 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: if she's done it, she won't she has to pull 597 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: it in nappy still. 598 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 2: She might be sitting on the toilet, but she has 599 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: to be wearing an appy. Oh the comfort. Yeah, But 600 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: I like whenever I try and change it, she's like 601 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: I want to see it, you know, like there's a 602 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: there's a connection that they have with it. 603 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: I think every parent can like remember that, or if 604 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: they're going through themselves now, like the time when your 605 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: kid's doing that transition of toilet training and they want 606 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: you to put a nappy back on them so that 607 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: they can go and do a poo. So you put 608 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: a nappy on them, and then they'll go and hide 609 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: behind the couch and go red face. But you know 610 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: that that's what they're doing. But they need the security 611 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: of the nappy because yeah, poo's are just a whole 612 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: nother kettle of fish. 613 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: So Macie will go into and for some reason she 614 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: picks our bedroom to be her place to pooh. I 615 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: would too, Yeah, just shit on my fucking pillow, not 616 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: your pillow. 617 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: It's just a it's comforting, you know, being close to 618 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: mom and dad. 619 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: And she can't it's a vulnerable moment. She can't pronounce 620 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: the letter T, so like I'll come up the hallway 621 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: and I hear this not yep. She's not ready for 622 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: me to change it, so she's like, not yep, not yep, 623 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: and then I'll walk in and it will fucking s. 624 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: So Macy is the sweetest little thing. 625 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: She is cute. 626 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: She's so cute. 627 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: She is cute. 628 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: Can you get a record of not yep, going there 629 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: somewhere the cuteness that is little she is. 630 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's very she's very cute. At the moment, 631 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: she's sort of trying to say more words like Oscar 632 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: was such a yapper. He is a yapper like his dad. 633 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: It's just fucking yeap, yep. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck me, He's. 634 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: Like, do you know what he's like? 635 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: So my grandmother can talk the leg off a chair. Literally, 636 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: she can talk underwater with a mouthful of marbles. 637 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: He's just like that. 638 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: Well, at least you know that he's got some good genes. 639 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: At least you know that that's your son. 640 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know where she came from. She's a 641 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: ginger and she's white as a goat. She glows in 642 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: the dark. 643 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Even I was suspicious. 644 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, that's the that's the milkman's. 645 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: People explained herself on this one. Yet, Yeah, getting canceled. 646 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: I do hope that I don't get you guys cancer 647 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: And Matt's done a. 648 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: Really good It's meant to be, is it? It doesn't matter. 649 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: I have a question for you, and it's I wonder 650 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: if it's something you've experienced with your kids. So, and 651 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: I know I talk about Lola a lot, and that's 652 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: probably because Molly's Molly is like quite reliable. She kind 653 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: of doesn't do anything that's outside the ordinary in terms 654 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: of like she's very consistent in her behavior and in 655 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: her personality. She really and she's like it's in the 656 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: way she gets ricky because I'm a creature habit, and 657 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: that's a creature the same I am too. I'm like, 658 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: same lunch every day, Like I am such a person 659 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: that likes to do the same thing on repeat. 660 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: Like a serial killer. 661 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, really similar, similar traits when I think about it, 662 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: And I've always identified just. 663 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: To listen to if I go missing. You know, the 664 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: number one suspect is go on. 665 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: Well, okay, So Marley's consistent. She also is like a 666 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, an A plus student 667 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like she's very smart. 668 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: She's a very humble brag. This is a humble parent. 669 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: My child's genius. 670 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: She's so clever. 671 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: Whereas Lola's a bit more radical. You don't know what 672 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: you're going to get from her, right, Like she is 673 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the outlier and it keeps life interesting. And I think 674 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a second child thing, but who knows, it could 675 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: just be the wild card of parenting. So Lola is 676 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: now in a phase where if she hurts me, I'm 677 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: in the wrong. So she scratched my face yesterday. She 678 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: got so angry at me that she she lashed and 679 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: scratched my face. This was preceding her screaming I want 680 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: my daddy. She she did it to the cat and 681 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: I said, don't do that to the cat. So then 682 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: she turned around and did it to my face, and 683 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, like, we don't do that, and 684 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: that really hurt. Like I got upset because she got 685 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: me straight in the eye, but I didn't get angry. 686 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I didn't yell. 687 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: I was just like, WHOA like that? 688 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't. 689 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: I was really like, WHOA like that? Like, you don't 690 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: do that. 691 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: That hurt mummy, Like mummy, Mummy's upset. That hurt me. 692 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: And her response was. 693 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: Yo, hurt me, and shet Emotionally. 694 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like I manipulated her because my hurt 695 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: upset her. So then now she storms off and she 696 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: manages to twist a situation. 697 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Gaslighted, just gas gas it by four year old, just 698 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: manipulating the whole household. 699 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: So she manages to I mean, obviously, don't apologize. I'm 700 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: not like a battered mom. But at the same time, 701 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I explain to you that actually 702 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: you're not always the one that's the victim in every 703 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: situation challenging? 704 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't know neither. I don't think I'm doing a 705 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: good job this parenting thing. 706 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: I remember Macey hit April once at the beach, which 707 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: tiny little Mazy. 708 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: It was like. 709 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: She patted April and shop technically she patted April on 710 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: the back, but like it was at the beach, so 711 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: like skin it was made a slap. And I think 712 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: like Macy's the one who cries. They might be embarrassed 713 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: that they know they've done the wrong thing in front 714 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: of you or to you. 715 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's not and I'm sorry. 716 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: Cry, it's you hurt me. Cry. 717 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I'm angry you make me feel bad. 718 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: I think that's a knee jerk trigger response because they 719 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: don't understand the emotion or what it's called. I think 720 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: they feel like I know when Oscar accidentally the other 721 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: he poked me in the eye. It was it was 722 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: a blatant accident. And my reactions straight away because because 723 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: it fucking hurts you get poked in the eye. You've 724 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: only got two of them, and you can lose them 725 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: pretty quickly. 726 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: I reckon. 727 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I can imagine you were upset. 728 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: They're bits of jelly in your head. 729 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: We're all we all know what I balls up. 730 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: If someone put their mouth over your eye and sucked 731 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: hard enough, it had come out. That's what we're dealing 732 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: with here. 733 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. 734 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Would should we try go yet? 735 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: Anyway, he poked me in the eye and it was 736 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: an accident, but my knee jerk response was oh fuck, 737 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: and he got really upset, like you saw it. 738 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: No, I didn't swear. I actually didn't say fuck. I 739 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: just said that for comedic effect. I was like ah. 740 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: I was like ah, noticeably it hurt and it was 741 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: clearly an accident. 742 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: But he then got upset around me, like I forced 743 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: his finger into my eye, and I think it's the 744 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: same thing. I think maybe she doesn't know the response 745 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: or the emotion. I'm just going to get more upset. 746 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I'm going to get upset because then 747 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: it counteracts. 748 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I don't know how to react when 749 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: I've done the wrong thing. So instead I screamed for 750 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: my father, who I actually don't want to know actual more. 751 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: If he was here, I hit him too. 752 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Poor Matt got it. Yeah, he really drew the short 753 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: I miss him, and he drew the short straw with that. 754 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: And I know that we're making jokes now, but in 755 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: a week's time I'm going to be so sad. I 756 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: am a pathetic puddle without that man, never leave me, Matt. 757 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: When you listen to this, all right. 758 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: I hope you anyway, we're going on track it. I've 759 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: got a scenario. I want to run by you. 760 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: Great, that happened, not to me, I witnessed it. I'm 761 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: a good people watcher. I love people from the bush. 762 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: That's that's a peeping tom. That's different. You look outside, 763 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: you you can. 764 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Get that in the suburbs down by someone's house. 765 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, through the window when they're in the shower. 766 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't me. I just happened to witness it while 767 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: I was stalking someone masturbating. Sorry, yes I was. We 768 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: were at the park and. 769 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: This particular park has a basketball court next to it. 770 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: It's a half court just to paint your picture, thank you. 771 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: And there's it's not overly busy. 772 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: There's a teenager I'm going to say teenager here's probably twenty, 773 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: that's how old I feel. 774 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: I am him and his girlfriend. 775 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: And he was playing on the basketball court along with 776 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: another little boy that had a ball. 777 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: And then there was a mom there right with her pram. 778 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: She had a baby in the pram and she had 779 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: a smaller kid about Macy's age two or three. 780 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: Around there somewhere the smaller ones out of the pram. 781 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: But the lady was standing in the middle of the 782 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: basketball court, directly below the hoop pretty march. Why I 783 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: don't know, with her pram and her two year old 784 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: kid that's running around and so. 785 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Wait, was there another kid that was in the pram 786 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: or the two year old kid was the kid that 787 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: was in the prem I. 788 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: Know there was a smaller baby babies. She's standing there 789 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: in the middle of the basketball court used predominantly for basketball, 790 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: and there are people trying to There's a guy trying 791 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: I watched him for a while because he was like 792 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: talking to his girlfriend and then saw they were there 793 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: and waited, like politely waited and was like, I want 794 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: to play. 795 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 2: I'm here to play basketball. You're in the basketball court. 796 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then he's gone, fuck it. He started to 797 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: bounce the well just around to sort of give the 798 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: idea that you're in the middle of the basketball court here. 799 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 3: I know, your kids running circles around the thing. 800 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: Whatever. There's a whole playground right there for that sort 801 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: of stuff. 802 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: And then he sort of stands next to them a 803 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 3: little bit like as he's kind of like edging them 804 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: out to be like, can you if a ball hits 805 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: your kid, it'll probably not the kid out. 806 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: You're standing in the wrong spot. 807 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: And she he has just completely ignored him, and he's 808 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: gone to thrown the ball into the hoop okay and 809 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: she turns to him and goes, you could hit my 810 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: kid with that ball, and he and I watched it. 811 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: He stood his ground. He said, this is a basketball court. 812 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: And she's like, you need to be more careful. You 813 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 3: need to be more careful. You could have hit my 814 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: kid with your ball. Blah blah blah blah blah if 815 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: it wasn't a basketball court and there's a ball flying 816 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: around and we. 817 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: All know how much you like basketball. I love so 818 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: I understand got to shoot some hoops. 819 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he stood that. 820 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: He stood his ground and was like, Hey, you are 821 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: standing beneath a hoop okay with a pram with a 822 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 3: newborn pretty much a baby in it, and you're letting 823 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: your two year old run around on a basketball court 824 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: with no basketball, and then you want to have a 825 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: dig at me for doing what the purpose of this is. 826 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: I have a question for you, what side of this 827 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: argument do you sit on. 828 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm on the I'm on the guy kid who wanted 829 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: to play basketball side. 830 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: I am, but I think he went about it the way. 831 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: I think he lacks the ability to have a conversation. 832 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: I think the smarter way would have just been, hey, 833 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: do you mind moving? There's a playground right there, and 834 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: he's perfect and we want to play. I'm also saying 835 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: he's a teenager too. Yeah, I know, I get that, 836 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: But I also think that like, just because you might 837 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: technically be in the right, doing something that then puts 838 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: someone in danger puts you in the wrong. That's the problem, right, 839 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: It's like the way, it's the reaction to the problem 840 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: that then means she probably reacted in a way that 841 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have had he just said, Oh, we want 842 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: to play basketball, could you move? 843 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I also think like some self awareness. 844 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and I do genuinely think and this 845 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,479 Speaker 1: might get me in trouble from like other moms maybe, 846 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: but they're they're definitely our parents who think that them 847 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: being parents is the most important thing, Like that they're 848 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: that there's this sense of like, well, I have a baby, 849 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: and I have a pram, especially a really little baby, 850 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: you kind of expect that everyone else gets out of 851 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: the way for you, I think to some degree, and 852 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't always work like that. So maybe she is 853 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: someone who has that sense of entitlement. Yeah, but yeah, no, 854 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that in that situation. I am completely 855 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: on his side. I just think you went about the wrong. 856 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: Way for sure. For sure, I felt I feel like 857 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: anything communicated with communication, right, But then it just comes 858 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: down into a pram. 859 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: You're standing directly under a fucking basketball hoop, for God's sake, 860 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: with a baby in your pram and your two year 861 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 3: old running a mark next to a playground where they 862 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: can do that stuff safely. 863 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I understand your fury. I am on your side. 864 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 3: She this is the thing, right she She stormed off 865 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: after pulling the I'm the mum card, stormed off, sort 866 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: of passed me and looked. 867 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: At me to be like, I'm on your side. I 868 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I just don't make eye contact. 869 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know. 870 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 871 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: If my thing is is like maybe I would have 872 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: reacted like her as well. I think I not on purpose, 873 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: only because like if I'd done something like that without realizing, 874 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: but then a kid who is still a kid, like 875 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: a young guy, reacted in a way that was a 876 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: bit reckless. I probably would have turned around and pulled 877 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: the mum card of like fucking grow up, you little shit. 878 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: You know, at the same time, you've got to be 879 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: You've got to be like, it's not all about me. 880 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: Can I tell you one time that I was feeled? 881 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I probably could just say this, So I've 882 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: got actually content to talk about the next time on 883 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: this podcast. 884 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 2: But whatever, I'll blome a load the nut of content. 885 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: The one thing that, like I thought it was that 886 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: next to mat sorry, the one thing, the one thing 887 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: that comes to mind when I think about like being 888 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: absolutely enraged as a parent, like like to the point 889 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: where I was like I wanted I've never been so 890 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: angry that I wanted to hurt another person, right, And 891 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna spit on this girl. I 892 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: was furious. I'm want to break her windscreen wipers. Like 893 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: it was road rage as well, so like like a 894 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: different kind of rage when you're like it's like a 895 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: you can't even describe its. 896 00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: Behind a windscreen. 897 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: So Lola was a newborn baby. Well, actually that's a lie. 898 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: She must have been Oh when was it okay? Irrelevant? 899 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: She was little, she was little. I had Marley in 900 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: the car as well, and we were driving around. It 901 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: was like peak fucking Christmas. So she must have been 902 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: like ten months then, so or nine months. It was 903 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: peak Christmas time. We were trying to drive around to 904 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: find a car park in Bonnet Junction. I had been 905 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: driving around for forty five fucking minutes and this was 906 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: like Christmas Eve with two kids in the car. Don't 907 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: ask me why I was doing it, but I was. 908 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Marley's screaming, Lola's screaming. All I needed to do was 909 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: duck in and get one thing. And I had been 910 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: circling around where the parent's parking the cars are anyway, 911 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: I had my indicator on to go into this car park, 912 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: and this other woman just zipped in and took the parent, 913 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: like the woman with PRAMS. It's got a picture of Prams. 914 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: She zipped in and took it. And I then, like, 915 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: I obviously caught around and I was like, oh my. 916 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I have two kids in the car. 917 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: You can hear them. 918 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: You could see I was going into that park and 919 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: you just took it. And she goes, well, that's your 920 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: fault for having children, and I. 921 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 2: Was like, well, Oh my god, that's warranted. 922 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: That's just my rudeness, so angry. 923 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: That is outright, that's outrageous. 924 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: I called Matt and I was like, I am going 925 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: to snap this woman's windscreen wipers off, and he was like, 926 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: don't do it. And I was like, I'm going to 927 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: buy a smoothie and throw it on her window, and 928 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: he was like, don't do it. He talked me back 929 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: off a ledge. Oh my god, but that is my 930 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: Roman empire. I think of that moment all the time 931 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm not a rage filled person. 932 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: No, I know. 933 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: I know that, and I wanted to physically armor. 934 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, look I think that. Look, that's just straight up rudeness. 935 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I wish your mum never had a child. 936 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: I think she was swallowed. 937 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: I was. I was filled with I was filled with it. 938 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: I could have wow, so many, so many. And there's 939 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: the thing when you think back that you think what 940 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: I could have done, But I should have said what 941 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 2: I can say. So when he missed. 942 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Opportunity, I said nothing because I was so startled, and 943 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: then all of the responses came to me. 944 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: For weeks afterwards. 945 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: I'd be in a shower brushing my teeth, and I'd 946 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: be like, Laura, Yes, it's time for some listener questions. 947 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 2: Yes, it is good. You read my mind, right, I've 948 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: got one for you. Okay, So this comes off the. 949 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Back of a do you call this ask two doting darts? No, 950 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: just listen to questions. 951 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: Just listen to question. 952 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: Should get a name for this segment asking cart's good? 953 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: Can you cut that out? All right? What do you 954 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 2: have for me? Okay? 955 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 3: So we have a guest on the podcast at a 956 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: while back, Steph Claiar Smith, who is currently pregnant. 957 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: There has never been a more attractive pregnant person like 958 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: she just frighteningly. I never knew I was attractive to 959 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: pregnant women, but here we are. 960 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 3: I know, like like she popped out so like perfectly forward. 961 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: If she was if you looking at her from the 962 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 3: from the back, you'd be like, oh, there's Steph. And 963 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 3: then she's like, oh, I got you're pregnant. Yes, yes, 964 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: off the bait. And she's having trouble with her eldest 965 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 3: child his name, Yes, she hasn't asked me and asked 966 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: this question. 967 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: But notice that she's having problems with his sleep and 968 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: how clingy he is. 969 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: But we have had a question from a listener similar circumstance, 970 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: so I thought we'd touch on it now. 971 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: The question. 972 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I knew that Steph Klasmith really wanted advice from us, 973 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: so I'm. 974 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: Glad that she doesn't want to advice from us. She 975 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: might from you, not from me. I think she's doing 976 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: just fine. 977 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 3: Yes, So the question is, I'm currently pregnant with my 978 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: second child. My first, who is four, is acting very clingy. 979 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 3: They won't let me go to sleep. 980 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 2: What do I do? 981 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's so hard. I mean, there's probably lots 982 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: of things that you can do in this situation. I 983 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: would probably check, like as in, like, you know, have 984 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: a little mental check and see if you think you're 985 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: spending enough one on one time with them, because big 986 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: changes happening. Kids don't understand what that change is, but 987 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: they know that a baby's coming, which means less attention 988 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: for them, less time for them, and that mum's occupied 989 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: with something else, you know, and there's lots of excitement 990 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: talking about this new baby. But I think because like 991 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: Maley and Laula are really close in age, and I 992 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: think one thing that helped us was getting Maley excited 993 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: about being a big sister and about all the things 994 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: that it's going to mean for her as well. 995 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: That's not to say that once. 996 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: Laula came, like she was so jealous and it was 997 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: really hard, and we had loads of those clinging periods, 998 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: but trying to make it more about her rather than 999 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: about the baby. And also the second thing that we 1000 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: had to do, which helped, like I can't even tell 1001 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: you how much it helped, was just me having really 1002 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: like designated one on one time with Marley, so like 1003 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: I would take Marley to go and get her nails done, 1004 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: or I would take Maley for a walk just us, 1005 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: so we'd go get ice cream. And I know that, 1006 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: like you obviously can't just leave the baby at home 1007 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: because it's in your belly, but it's like just not 1008 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: with dad, having time just the two of you where 1009 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: you don't talk about the baby, you don't talk about pregnancy, 1010 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: and you just focus on them and their little wants 1011 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: and needs. Like I don't know, I think that that's 1012 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: probably all you can do. Like it's only going to 1013 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: be a couple of months, it's a phase. 1014 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,919 Speaker 3: But the fact that like not letting mum go to sleep, yeah, 1015 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: that means everyone's tired in the house. At what point 1016 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 3: did you just go jump in to bed with me 1017 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: and that your time and create that bad habit. 1018 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 2: But then then you've got. 1019 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: To break note because then you've got to break that 1020 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: habit once baby comes along, and then that's like hell 1021 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: on earth, literally hell on earth. I also that kind 1022 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 1: of question in this time. I think we can all 1023 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: do it where like, when you're pregnant, everything it almost 1024 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: becomes part of your personality, right, Like your personality becomes 1025 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: that you're pregnant. Everyone talks about your pregnancy, everyone's asking 1026 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: about it. It's like all of the focus goes from 1027 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: everything else in the world to the fact that you're pregnant. 1028 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: That's like a really exciting thing. And I wonder if 1029 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: like you're little kid is picking up on that and 1030 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: they feel a little bit like, Okay, well, the most 1031 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: exciting thing that's happening in. 1032 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 2: Mum's life is that mum's pregnant. Yeah, what about me? Yeah? 1033 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: And everyone's talking about the pregnancy and we're always talking 1034 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: about the baby. But like, but like I'm here, you know, 1035 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: and kids are like in built. It's a I was 1036 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: actually listening. It's probably going too deep, but whatever, we'll 1037 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: go there. I was listening to a child psychologist talk 1038 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: about how siblings are actually really in competition with each other, 1039 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: Like as much as they love each other, they also 1040 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: see each other as like a direct threat, a direct threat, 1041 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: a direct threat to their attention source, or a direct 1042 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: threat to the thing that keeps them safe and makes 1043 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: them feel loved. And so it's almost like it's started already, 1044 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: but for you, it's just the baby's not born yet, 1045 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: but that direct threat is still there that you know, 1046 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: that little child still knows fuck, like, I gotta work 1047 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: so much harder for mum's attention now. 1048 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 2: So it's like all the attention has been taken away 1049 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: from you when it's been with you for the whole time. 1050 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I look back on having Lola and 1051 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: I My biggest regret is that I think I loved 1052 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: it at the time, the idea of having them really 1053 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: close together, and I love it now, But when they 1054 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: were really little, I found that it made Marley grow 1055 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: up too quickly and she no longer was the baby, 1056 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: even though I look back on photos and I'm like, 1057 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: holy shit, you're in a nappy, you were a baby. 1058 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were only nineteen months apart or something, 1059 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: and I think that that was a bit unfair on 1060 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: her because she didn't get to be the baby for 1061 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: very long, and she kind of got thrusted onto Matt 1062 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: and I took Lola, and I don't know. I now 1063 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: look back and I understand why she had the moments 1064 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: of like neediness that she had, But at the time, 1065 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is so hard. 1066 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: Get off me, Let me go to sleep. You know, 1067 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,959 Speaker 1: it's hell on earth when you don't get sleep. 1068 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 2: It's the worst. It's the worst part of those early 1069 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: years of parenting. 1070 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you think that, like maybe the work 1071 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: can be done during the day, spend just a little 1072 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: bit more one on one time and make it about them, 1073 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 3: you know, doing that last bed bath routine that you 1074 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 3: would do with them one. 1075 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 1: Hundred percent one on one time. And if that doesn't work, melotonin. 1076 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 2: Forever, I'm still sleep with my mum, you would. 1077 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: Both the kids are in the bed now with me. 1078 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: Now that Matt's not here, Oh yeah, as soon as I. 1079 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: Go away or I'm not there for the night or 1080 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. Oscar's he's got yeah, he's there. 1081 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: He's like, what do you mean you're away tonight, like you. 1082 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: Bear, your spot is still warm, and Oscar just like 1083 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: slides on in. I just worry, like when Matt comes home, 1084 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: he's never going to be able to sleep in the 1085 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: bed again. 1086 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: We've gone back to square one. That's the dream. I'm 1087 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 2: going to finish the episode now, I'm nervous. 1088 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: What are you nervous about? 1089 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: Don't know what we do at the end. What do 1090 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 2: you do? We all get naked, just your first she's 1091 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 2: back there to work and he's just. 1092 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: Naked the whole time. 1093 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: You can only see from the neck up. 1094 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, guys, that is it from us. Thank you for 1095 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: having me on the podcast. 1096 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: Yes, you'll be back next week. I will be so. 1097 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: If you do have questions for Laura on the Facebook 1098 00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: group I've asked. 1099 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll put up a question box as well. If 1100 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: you have any parenting to any dad questions that you 1101 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: want a mom to answer, I'm here, cheeky plug. If 1102 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this episode, please leave review five stars. If 1103 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: you're going to leave a review, you'd hope it's five stars. 1104 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: Anything less than that would be annoying, wouldn't it is? 1105 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 3: With this one, we got one saying get your own 1106 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 3: slogan and it was like, must be nice. 1107 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: It was so fun. 1108 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: I did read that. I did. 1109 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: Did you see the one that was just like no, 1110 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 2: it was one star anyway? 1111 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 3: That is it Join us on socials as well, two 1112 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: doting dads on Instagram, like I said, the Facebook group 1113 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 3: also TikTok. We also have a couple of calendars there 1114 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 3: where else can I plug in this little section here? 1115 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: You do. There's actually quite a few of the raunchy 1116 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: ranch calendars that are at my house currently. And I 1117 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: think that if you want to get someone at present 1118 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: in January, now is the time to get a calendar 1119 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: to get your life in order for twenty twenty five. 1120 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: Just never mind the little typo one March. Apart from that, 1121 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: it is perfect well said. It's a beautiful, beautiful calendar also, 1122 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: and I think before we wrap this up, we have 1123 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: a very very important request. 1124 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 2: Please go and vote for my husband. 1125 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: Whether you've enjoyed this or not, if you've really enjoyed it, 1126 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: the way to keep that away longer is by going 1127 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: joining I think it's ten play. You've got to sign 1128 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: up and you can vote for Mattie Jay in the jungle. 1129 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's see him eat a zebra asshole. It'll make everyone happy. 1130 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: Session with this zebra assholes running, it's kind of just 1131 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: a rotting joke with Matt and I. 1132 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: I want to actually get him a zebra's asshole. 1133 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: That's it from us. 1134 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: See, Hey guys, I'm trying to get pregnant, are you? 1135 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you with a baster. 1136 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: Matt just is we're using we're using condoms. So when 1137 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: I just go and fish them out of the bin, 1138 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot I don't two. Doting Dance Podcast acknowledges 1139 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and the connections 1140 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: to land, see and community. 1141 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present 1142 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraate island 1143 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: the peoples today