Speaker 1: I'd like to start today's episode by acknowledging the fact
Speaker 1: that we both have we each have beautiful men on
Speaker 1: our T shirt. That's correct, I have one Michael Scott. Yes,
Speaker 1: so a Christmas present you got me, Sammy is a
Speaker 1: picture of Michael Scott holding his World's Best Boss mark
Speaker 1: and it says, I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.
Speaker 2: I love good stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it. And then can you talk me through
Speaker 1: your T shirt?
Speaker 2: I'm wearing Dave Warnikee, who's wonderful comedian, wonderful podcast, a
Speaker 2: wonderful author, wonderful comedian, wonder my actor, friend, lover. But
Speaker 2: Dave Warnikee, husband, our father, all those you to me,
Speaker 2: you know him intimately, very intimately. But yeah, I've got
Speaker 2: his bachelor T shirt that everyone gave out on his
Speaker 2: day when he had his bachelor party where we went
Speaker 2: to play Mario Kart in a cinema. Uh yeah, we
Speaker 2: played Mario Kart in a cinema. Then we went to
Speaker 2: a Text Mex restaurant all Day's favorite Things. We went
Speaker 2: for a drink at a rooftop bar, and then we
Speaker 2: went to watch Murray Wiggle play in his concert.
Speaker 1: And you were all wearing those T shirts.
Speaker 2: They were all wearing this.
Speaker 1: And how many years ago is that?
Speaker 2: It was about four or five years ago.
Speaker 1: Now do you think anyone else from that bachelor party
Speaker 1: has ever worn the T shirt? Again?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I send us to Dave quite frequently.
Speaker 1: And how often do you wear I got how often?
Speaker 1: I say you you'd wear that at least once a month?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon. I always take a photo of it
Speaker 2: when I'm wearing it and send it to him. He
Speaker 2: loves it. I think I've never asked. You're ready for this? Yes,
Speaker 2: Lee Wayne Scott ended a twenty year marriage and was
Speaker 2: now a single mum. In two thousand and four, the
Speaker 2: perfect man turned up to a church, the kind of
Speaker 2: guy every girl would want. Soon they were dating. He
Speaker 2: would constantly bring toys for her kids. But in January
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, Lee was at work when a
Speaker 2: police officer arrived at her work with a photograph. The
Speaker 2: man who was in the photograph was the man that
Speaker 2: she'd been dating. She said, that's John, But it wasn't John,
Speaker 2: oh No. His real name was Jeffrey Manchester, an escaped
Speaker 2: convict who'd been living in a Nearby Toys r US
Speaker 2: for the last six months. This g Love is a
Speaker 2: story of the roof Man.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, It's got everything, everything, toys, it's got
Speaker 1: people called being divorced.
Speaker 2: Correct everything everything you'd ever want. Merry Christmas Love. Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Alla Manchester aka the roof Man, was born in Sacramento, California,
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy one. Heit a typical Californian upbringing, nice weather.
Speaker 2: He was always at the beach. He attended high school
Speaker 2: and then enlisted in the military. No I know. I
Speaker 2: said that about a typical Californian lifestyle.
Speaker 1: And he started really high in the moon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you seen my favorite TV short all time? Frontline? Frontline.
Speaker 1: I studied journalism, mate, that was that was my way
Speaker 1: of study. Like that was my study. That was my bible.
Speaker 2: There's an episode of Frontline to Frontline for people who
Speaker 2: don't know. What's a current of Frere, A current of
Speaker 2: fred We're doing well today, It's a current. I've had
Speaker 2: a whiskey sow a current A fair style show. It's
Speaker 2: like a moat sitcom, a sitcom based on current affair
Speaker 2: and especially like you know, news reporters in the nineties
Speaker 2: and There is one episode where he would just read
Speaker 2: anything off the autoque yeah, very very well way before
Speaker 2: and he starts really high and he's going and of
Speaker 2: course today three bodies were found. So good.
Speaker 1: I love when I love. We should find some clips
Speaker 1: of like examples of this when news readers will be
Speaker 1: responding to like the end of a story or having
Speaker 1: a bit of band with their co host and then
Speaker 1: they go to the auto Q and realize it's really
Speaker 1: sad happened. Like they go from going, ah, was a
Speaker 1: wonderfullysta celebraction? Was it a four po were killed last night?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's find some examples of them, I think so.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey attended high school and then enlisted in the enlisted
Speaker 2: in the military. He learned all the skills he needed,
Speaker 2: including jumping from great heights, handling weapons, all the things
Speaker 2: that we're very familiar with in the military today.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is foreshadowing. Jumping from great heights
Speaker 1: is not what I would usually put on the top
Speaker 1: of the list of things that I learned in the military.
Speaker 1: Just you.
Speaker 2: At the age of twenty, he got married and started
Speaker 2: a family. He had twin sons and a daughter. In
Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties, he traveled throughout the States, deployed to
Speaker 2: several locations over that time. In nineteen ninety nine, he
Speaker 2: and his family moved into military housing. The marriage deteriorated
Speaker 2: over time, and around this time police were dispatched for
Speaker 2: a domestic dispute. They soon divorced and she got custody
Speaker 2: of the kids.
Speaker 1: Wow, whatever the dispute was was enough for her to
Speaker 1: get custody.
Speaker 2: Now, this is what Jeffrey was accused of at the time.
Speaker 2: Over seven months, Jeffrey robbed over forty restaurants, most of
Speaker 2: the McDonald's, for a total of seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: What he was the real life Hamburglar. Oh very good, now, Jeffrey,
Speaker 2: I don't like that hamburg.
Speaker 1: I don't like that Hamburglar.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what I do like Grimmins.
Speaker 1: Hamburgers, Oh, yes, and Grimmens.
Speaker 2: Now. Jeffrey got better and better as time went on
Speaker 2: at robbing these McDonald's. He had some problems early on.
Speaker 2: One time he didn't know that the McDonalds was closed
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving and there's no money. But he eventually got
Speaker 2: better and better with what he was doing. Armed with
Speaker 2: a gun and a drill and power tools. He would
Speaker 2: go on the roof before the store opened. He would
Speaker 2: then hide in the bathroom until the store opened, and
Speaker 2: at the perfect moment, reveal himself with a gun and
Speaker 2: hold up the restaurant. He would then politely ask them
Speaker 2: many to open the safe and the registers. He would
Speaker 2: then direct all of the customers and employees in the
Speaker 2: freezer to get them away, but he would always give
Speaker 2: them a jacket first because he was very cold in there.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. He would then lock the freezer and
Speaker 2: leave lock them in there well. On a few occasions
Speaker 2: it would be known that he would fire a few
Speaker 2: warning shots and people weren't listening to him, but he
Speaker 2: was always very nice. He would then call the police
Speaker 2: as soon as he left and tell them that the
Speaker 2: hostages were in the freezer.
Speaker 1: Please let them out so they wouldn't freeze it.
Speaker 2: That's right. Once people were all locked away, he would
Speaker 2: raid any more registers and in the restaurant, and as
Speaker 2: he was leaving, he would then call the police and
Speaker 2: tell them about the people in the freezer so that
Speaker 2: they would come and rescue them right away. He primarily
Speaker 2: targeted restaurants in northern California, but he.
Speaker 1: Wasn't, so he wouldn't be caught and labeled a cold
Speaker 1: blooded killer because if they died, they would have had
Speaker 1: cold blood.
Speaker 2: Sure, Oh my god, that took me a second. You
Speaker 2: have to explain it, but I really enjoyed it. A
Speaker 2: edit this in here. That's also reference from Frontline edited here.
Speaker 2: That's him in a promotional video trying to pretend he
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing, and he goes edit it here
Speaker 2: he's pointing, get a notepad. In northern California, but also Nevada, Oregon,
Speaker 2: and Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: It's fun to say, isn't It's fun.
Speaker 2: He did have a coast to coast reputation though, as
Speaker 2: the most courteous thief in the nation.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have, if you're going to be
Speaker 1: not have to. He didn't have to be known as
Speaker 1: a thief. He could have just not thieved. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to be known as a thief, I suppose
Speaker 1: that's a nice one to be known as.
Speaker 2: He was very polite. He was always apologizing, said would
Speaker 2: you He would always say, would you please, ma'am get
Speaker 2: on the ground. McDonald's at the time had a ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollar reward for his capture. He was a smooth operator,
Speaker 2: but there were a few close calls. One time he
Speaker 2: raced out the back door as police were coming through
Speaker 2: the front door. There was another time where McDonald's employer
Speaker 2: attacked him with a bucket, but it didn't go very well.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey piss a whipped a pistol whipped him to defend himself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Detectives knew he was military trained because he could hit
Speaker 2: the floor from the ceiling and not miss a beat.
Speaker 2: So he dropped right down from the ceiling, so they
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, here he knows what he's
Speaker 2: doing here. He was cool, calm and collected, and yes,
Speaker 2: very polite. He could move really fast and without much sound.
Speaker 2: In May two thousand, Jeffrey went to North Carolina. He
Speaker 2: wasted little to no time getting to work. On May twentieth,
Speaker 2: he literally dropped into McDonald's in North Carolina, Like what
Speaker 2: I did there, North Carolina? I'm just giving myself powdery back.
Speaker 2: That had just closed for the night. He crept into
Speaker 2: the restroom as he always did and stayed quietly. The
Speaker 2: manager was checking the bathroom when he noticed there was
Speaker 2: something off. Jeffrey appeared and moved everyone into the back
Speaker 2: of the restaurant. There he had all the employers lie
Speaker 2: on their stomachs. The manager was ordered to get the
Speaker 2: money from the safe and then leave everyone else in
Speaker 2: the freezer. He got in his car with one five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Five hours later, he targeted another McDonald's, so
Speaker 2: he wasn't obviously happy with how much money he had
Speaker 2: about to open, but this McDonald's was in Belmont, California,
Speaker 2: and this is where his luck finally ran out. He
Speaker 2: climbed the roof as usual, about to cut the hole
Speaker 2: using a raizor knife and then a power drill. It
Speaker 2: took about forty minutes to get into the restaurant. Dropping down,
Speaker 2: he waited in his hiding spot for them to open
Speaker 2: the store. Then, once he thought it was the perfect time,
Speaker 2: he went about his normal routine. He got the money
Speaker 2: from the safe, then back then everyone in the freezer.
Speaker 2: He had almost seven thousand dollars, this time from one
Speaker 2: store in one store, as always. The manager later said
Speaker 2: that he was very polite and was apologizing for what
Speaker 2: he was doing, while his routine didn't change. Society had
Speaker 2: at this time now silent alarms in the first door.
Speaker 2: They didn't have one, but this one did. An employee
Speaker 2: had actually set it off. There was a suspicious car
Speaker 2: across the road at a local church. Jeffrey tried to
Speaker 2: escape on foot, but police found him in some tall grass.
Speaker 2: He was gracious when caught allegedly, saying, you guys did
Speaker 2: a real good job today.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a bit hard not to like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's actually a film about it with Channing
Speaker 2: Tatum who played Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, now I know he's hot.
Speaker 2: He's a good looking guy. In court, they threw the
Speaker 2: book at him.
Speaker 1: Not literally, that would be very rude.
Speaker 2: He didn't confess to any other of the roofman crimes.
Speaker 2: He admitted to the two in North Carolina that one night,
Speaker 2: but kind of said there was a copycat involved in
Speaker 2: the others.
Speaker 1: I mean smart defense, it's very smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He told them that he had heard about the
Speaker 2: roofman robberies and thought it sounded like a really good idea.
Speaker 1: So he was saying he was the kid heard about it. Ah, clever,
Speaker 1: that's a smart defense.
Speaker 2: By this point, he had robbed forty restaurants who he
Speaker 2: was held on a one million dollar bond. He was
Speaker 2: sentenced to a medium security prison. The sentence was forty
Speaker 2: five years. Oh my god, in prison for the two
Speaker 2: McDonald's in California. What hang on, I guess because it's
Speaker 2: armed robbery. That's a severe sentence, though it's polite. I
Speaker 2: think there's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously the way you've told this is making me go,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, nice about it. He got caught whatever.
Speaker 2: But she loved your going. Is this the end of
Speaker 2: the story.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm not, because you started it. We're talking
Speaker 1: about my good friend Lee.
Speaker 2: Well yes, but also the toys are don't forget the toys.
Speaker 1: Well, the toys are ours.
Speaker 2: The sentence was so harsh because of the added kidnapping
Speaker 2: chargers where he had taken McDonald's employees to a freezer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course it's not. It's armed robbery and
Speaker 1: it's probably breaking enter that's right, and kidnapping times. However,
Speaker 1: many people were in the freezer each other. It's not
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be just one charge of like one count
Speaker 1: of kidnapping. There were eight employees all in there. That'll
Speaker 1: be eight counts of kidnapping.
Speaker 2: And the greatest charge of all not loving it.
Speaker 1: Ah, you just winked at the camera. That was so gross,
Speaker 1: it was fun.
Speaker 2: It will be a great clip.
Speaker 1: It will be a great clip. Didn't make it. Edit
Speaker 1: it here and then use the bit of me going.
Speaker 2: I hated that lovely. Jeffrey was now thirty three years old.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, he played the perfect person inside. For the
Speaker 2: first four years he was a model prisoner.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, if he looked.
Speaker 4: Like person that takes it too far, well it's like
Speaker 4: an ambulance.
Speaker 2: For the first four years he was a model prisoner.
Speaker 2: He got access to a metal plant where inmates made
Speaker 2: bad frames and jungle gyms. The outside. Well, he also
Speaker 2: paid very close attention to his surroundings and all of
Speaker 2: the guards.
Speaker 1: Oh he got.
Speaker 2: In June two thousand and four, after less than four
Speaker 2: years in prison, he enacted his plan. He had crafted
Speaker 2: an escape patch made out of a piece of plywood
Speaker 2: that would fit on the undercarriage of a delivery truck
Speaker 2: that would leave the facility. He painted a piece of
Speaker 2: cardboard black and held magnets to attach it so the
Speaker 2: entire structure would appear invisible to any security guards who
Speaker 2: were checking underneath the vehicle before it left. Really clever.
Speaker 2: At three point thirty pm that day, the delivery truck
Speaker 2: left the metal plant with Jeffrey underneath. He was actually
Speaker 2: hanging underneath.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Whenever, Sorry, that's just made me think. I
Speaker 1: my family went on holiday to Bali only like not
Speaker 1: even a year after the Bali body eighty eight people,
Speaker 1: and like we went there in a family holiday. I
Speaker 1: remember my mom saying I remember my mom saying it
Speaker 1: at the time. You know, if anything were to happen,
Speaker 1: we're together as a family, it's probably the safest time
Speaker 1: to go because security is heightened. And never when we
Speaker 1: went to like check into the hotel, the car that
Speaker 1: had driven us from the airport into the hotel, they
Speaker 1: then had security at all the gates that had mirrors
Speaker 1: on long like long sticks that have mirrors, and so
Speaker 1: they were like doing these mirror things. And I just
Speaker 1: remember so clearly that the taxi driver turned to us
Speaker 1: and they checked for the bomb, checked for the bomb,
Speaker 1: and it was just so cute how he said it, like, Oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: They're just checking a bomb. Checked the bomb.
Speaker 1: Check for the bomb. Is what I'm thinking they should
Speaker 1: have done. Yeah, in this case, is the prison guard
Speaker 1: should have took for the bomb check foot Bob.
Speaker 2: Thanks to GEP it alive. He'd intentionally chosen a rainy day,
Speaker 2: so he's tracks and scent were hard to be tracked.
Speaker 1: There were no we didn't there were no bombs on
Speaker 1: our holiday. We were fine.
Speaker 2: Correct. He was the first prisoner to ever escape Brown
Speaker 2: Creek Brown Creek Creational Institution. He was expecting the truck
Speaker 2: to whisk him far, far away, but it stopped barely
Speaker 2: outside the prison walls.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, why.
Speaker 2: Well, stay just stopped there. Yeah, So he was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, sneaking away as quietly as he could. He
Speaker 2: hitchhiked about fifty miles in Charlotte. He reinvented himself. Oh
Speaker 2: lucky Charlotte. His name was now John Zorin, a generous
Speaker 2: volunteer at cross Roads Presbyterian Church and working a very
Speaker 2: secret and confidential job with the government. So how he
Speaker 2: introduced himself. Oh, he had some cosmetic work done to
Speaker 2: improve and somewhat disguise his appearance.
Speaker 1: It's very funny to say improved. No, you're trying to
Speaker 1: change the way he looks. You're a firlot. It's like
Speaker 1: when people say they get a nose job for a
Speaker 1: deviated Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, once the police found out he escaped. They assumed
Speaker 2: he'd be heading back to Sacramento, but he didn't. He
Speaker 2: stayed in the state. He found the perfect hiding spot
Speaker 2: at Toys Are Us. It was a store.
Speaker 1: You say that like it's a known thing that you
Speaker 1: just pretend to be a cabbage patch kid.
Speaker 2: The store had everything he needed. He had snacks and
Speaker 2: baby food, bikes to ride at night for exercise, and
Speaker 2: remote control cars to drive around the roof when he
Speaker 2: was bored. Ah, there were also There was also an
Speaker 2: abandoned Circuit City store, which is an electronic store next door,
Speaker 2: which served as a perfect hideout during the day, so
Speaker 2: when it was open, he could hide out next door.
Speaker 1: Why didn't need to hide out there? Wasn't he going
Speaker 1: to work at the church? Oh?
Speaker 2: But not always? So it's like, yeah, during the day when.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, is there?
Speaker 2: He even set up baby monitors to watch the employees
Speaker 2: come and go, oh my god, that's weird. Did he
Speaker 2: know that they were coming so he could was like,
Speaker 2: he's warning that he get out, but he's why weren't
Speaker 2: his antiques caught on? In two thousand and four, Will
Speaker 2: he worked out a way to cut the cameras at
Speaker 2: night and restore them the next morning. By then he
Speaker 2: was snuggled back at Circuit City to sleep. He had
Speaker 2: built a tunnel from toys R Rush to Circuit City.
Speaker 2: What Then he used a board which he painted to
Speaker 2: match the wall, with a bungee cord to hold it
Speaker 2: shut to make a door into the tunnel. Then he
Speaker 2: used merch from toys R. Russ, a beard made out
Speaker 2: of Spider Man sheets, and lots of other bits and
Speaker 2: pieces to make his DIY homes. He had like soft
Speaker 2: toy bears to sleep on, and he made it very
Speaker 2: comfortable for himself.
Speaker 1: Has gone Yes.
Speaker 2: He also installed a smoke detector and alarm in his
Speaker 2: hod out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: After a few months of smooth sailing, he started venturing
Speaker 2: out into the world. This is where he started attending
Speaker 2: a Presbyterian church. This is where he met Lee Wayne
Speaker 2: Scott and they hit it off right away.
Speaker 1: So he was surviving as in like by eating Yep,
Speaker 1: he literally surviving. We're eating baby food that they sold
Speaker 1: it towards r that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, candy and that sort of stuff. Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: He totally worked for the government in a very secret job.
Speaker 2: He couldn't tell her specifically what he did, and when
Speaker 2: she asked to see his place, he'd say it was
Speaker 2: just a government building, like a really sterile environment. You
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to see it.
Speaker 1: It's quite a funny and clever way to hide that
Speaker 1: you don't have a job, like rather than making up
Speaker 1: a job and then hoping they're never asked to come
Speaker 1: to your office. Or he's just saying I work for
Speaker 1: the government and my job is secret. So I can't
Speaker 1: tell you that's actually really because people that will just go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well talking about the job. Just I can't tell you
Speaker 1: I am in the CIA.
Speaker 2: If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Speaker 1: WHOA stop winking at the camera.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey helped with Wednesday night Bible study, frequented a local
Speaker 2: gym and went to the dentist regularly. He gave his
Speaker 2: past because of all the candies. That's right. He gave
Speaker 2: his past to the first few seasons of Signfeld, a.
Speaker 1: Gift probably from the electronics store. I would think.
Speaker 2: Shut down, I'm sure, but like the circuit, city was abandoned.
Speaker 2: A Charlotte police captain later said, I bet he spoke
Speaker 2: to everyone within a mile of the place. The church,
Speaker 2: so It's like everyone knew him and as a lovely guy.
Speaker 1: And why would you ever think this guy doesn't have
Speaker 1: a home? No, so often because he only it's candy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well the Dentist's come back. I didn't mention
Speaker 2: the dentist for a.
Speaker 1: Reason, Okay, I mean I liked it anyway, just going
Speaker 1: on flow never again that stop winking.
Speaker 2: I feel like the guy who writes our themes on
Speaker 2: Oliver Clark every time, because he would always I think
Speaker 2: that he would be a big winker at the camera.
Speaker 1: He would be He's just got the energy of He's
Speaker 1: got the.
Speaker 2: Energy of a winker. I love he does a thing
Speaker 2: on stage, but I think he's one of the funniest
Speaker 2: things ever. It's called the double take, where you you
Speaker 2: look at someone and go, like, I say, you look once.
Speaker 2: He looked twice.
Speaker 1: But he does it to an audience and then.
Speaker 2: He goes, have you ever tried the three? And he
Speaker 2: does the triple take? You stop on the Feds. Very good, Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: He does it much better, Jeffrey.
Speaker 1: To get Oliver back on the podcast because we talk
Speaker 1: about himself and he could cover the Winter Bago.
Speaker 2: Man and he could also do the Three take.
Speaker 1: No, it just looks like you're shaky.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: Actually he does it very well. Jeffrey helped with Wednesday
Speaker 2: Bible Study and gave his path to the first few
Speaker 2: seasons of Sidepot on DVD. A Charlotte police officer later
Speaker 2: said he spoke to everyone within a mile of the place.
Speaker 2: Employees noticed lots of things going missing at the Toys
Speaker 2: r Us and the police were called multiple times, so
Speaker 2: we had quite a few close calls. Now, Jeffrey still
Speaker 2: needed money to take his new girlfriend out on dates,
Speaker 2: so he broke into a pawn shop and stall a gun.
Speaker 1: He also managed pawn Yes.
Speaker 2: That's right. He also changed employees rosters at Toys RS
Speaker 2: to roam around the building freely. So so what he
Speaker 2: just rostered?
Speaker 1: Knowing Onyah, he started changing rosters.
Speaker 2: So finally, the day after Christmas two thousand and four,
Speaker 2: he walked into Toys r US with a gun, not married,
Speaker 2: going back to his old tricks. Police arrived very quickly.
Speaker 2: Police dogs were brought in and found seven thousand dollars
Speaker 2: worth of toys he'd hidden in the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Why would you if you're going to rob somewhere for money?
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you'd set up to. I
Speaker 2: think he was getting a bit cocky, like he was
Speaker 2: out in the wild a lot like well, you know,
Speaker 2: you can say that out in society, not in the wild.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but he was out and about like I
Speaker 2: think he was just getting cocky with it, like I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get found. He had that military training.
Speaker 2: I feel like he thought, I'm the roof man, I
Speaker 2: can get all over.
Speaker 1: And because I suppose because he was set up in
Speaker 1: there so well, he thought that would be like he
Speaker 1: knew the workings of it, he'd be able to do
Speaker 1: that more.
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm the roof man, not the roof kid.
Speaker 1: Stop winking at the Okay, but.
Speaker 2: This was all his undoing. So when they found the
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars worth of stuff, somehow he got away.
Speaker 2: A few days later, a Charlotte police officer was on
Speaker 2: patrol and noticed a vacant circuit city store with the
Speaker 2: power on but half of it blacked out. This officer
Speaker 2: was curious to see what was going on, especially because
Speaker 2: of the armed robbery that had just occurred. The officer
Speaker 2: saw a makeshift door, and that's where he discovered Jeffrey's home.
Speaker 2: There he found a fingerprint for the roofman himself. It
Speaker 2: was Jeffrey Manchester.
Speaker 1: Oh, so they'd found, had they They found seven thousand
Speaker 1: dollars worth of stolen stuff from toys r.
Speaker 2: Uscal not him, not him, that's right. So he escaped
Speaker 2: quickly and then they came back and power on there.
Speaker 2: That seems really strange. It's abandoned while there's a power there.
Speaker 2: The detective said that he'd never found someone so determined.
Speaker 2: That night, his mugshot was plastered everywhere. Police finally wanted
Speaker 2: to catch him and take him back to prison before sunrise.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and that, sorry to interrupt. Imagine finding like a
Speaker 1: store had been robbed and the seven thousand dollars worth
Speaker 1: of goods were taken, And you would never think that
Speaker 1: that would then lead you to a man who escaped
Speaker 1: from a forty five year.
Speaker 2: Prison exactly, No, not at all. Yeah, before sunrise, Jeffrey
Speaker 2: had returned to the dentist to retrieve his dental records
Speaker 2: so they might be found and used against him. Ah,
Speaker 2: but he ended up setting the whole place on fire instead. Sorry,
Speaker 2: he couldn't find his records and he went, oh god,
Speaker 2: just to the ground. Oh it was no use. People
Speaker 2: already knew who he was. The people in the church
Speaker 2: had their own suspicions about the clean cut, thirty three
Speaker 2: year old who had just apparently fallen out of the sky.
Speaker 2: Detectives then went to speak with Lee. She eventually agreed
Speaker 2: to help by arranging a meeting with Jeffrey. Jeffrey arrived
Speaker 2: at Lee's apartment with a bouquet of flowers.
Speaker 1: But light till the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he was met with officers who placed
Speaker 2: him under arrest. His ultimate mistake was going back for
Speaker 2: the girl one last time, said one detective. Jeffrey is
Speaker 2: now serving his sentence and is due to be released
Speaker 2: in two thousand and thirty six, where he will be
Speaker 2: sixty five years old. He tried to change, so he
Speaker 2: tried to escape once again. Of course, he did in
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, and again in twenty seventeen. My god,
Speaker 2: both attempts failed. He had a minor infraction in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty where he had a substance possession somehow in Brisain chatting.
Speaker 2: Tatum played Jeffrey Manchester in the twenty twenty five film Roofman,
Speaker 2: which is worth a watch.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of a I think an online
Speaker 2: release film. Yeah, yeah, that g is the abridge story
Speaker 2: of the Roofman Jeffrey Manchester.
Speaker 1: Why is it that the way his story is told
Speaker 1: makes you completely flip whether you think this is like
Speaker 1: a good guy or a bad guy, Like obviously he's
Speaker 1: a bad guy kind of I'm like, oh, what a
Speaker 1: shame his other escape failed attempts failed, like he could
Speaker 1: have the best. Yeah, I don't know. There's something. There's
Speaker 1: something about him that is I don't know a little.
Speaker 2: Or something like it's.
Speaker 1: Not he's he's a criminal, armed robbery, thefts. Like there's
Speaker 1: so much there that is very wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Apart from the you know, there might have been a
Speaker 2: domestic dispute. Apart from that, ye forgot about that. I
Speaker 2: don't think he ever hurt anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, holding a gun to people and putting them.
Speaker 2: In not everyone always is very polite, So I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so weird. I think it's his pretty privilege without
Speaker 1: even me seeing him, but you're just saying he looks
Speaker 1: like Turning Tatum. This is like like unmitigated in the
Speaker 1: back of my sub contest.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's pretty privilege. Dig says that.
Speaker 1: Dum, Yeah, okay, he's very pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved that story, so you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that interesting. I just thought that was such
Speaker 2: an interesting little story I could tell on a Thursday
Speaker 2: as a bonus episode this week. And I've got lots
Speaker 2: of ones I've been researching recently, and I love doing
Speaker 2: the Thursday treats. It's like, it's so there can be
Speaker 2: a bit more uplifting, obviously than the.
Speaker 1: Very much this I'm saying, like it's storytelling is so
Speaker 1: funny in itself, Like the way you told that, We're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uplifting, it's a treat. It's Thursday. We could have
Speaker 1: told that from the perspective of one of the victims.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Absolutely like a heroin story.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and horrendous.
Speaker 1: And horrendous in all of.
Speaker 2: The way, in all of the way.
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch Roof Man.
Speaker 2: You watch Roof Mand You like it? I liked it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's not an incredible film, but they.
Speaker 1: Make it a bit light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they make it a bit light. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: funny film. Watch us to kind of go, oh, this
Speaker 2: is a true story. And I think when I watch
Speaker 2: one of those kind of out there ideas and it's true.
Speaker 2: I like it a lot more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think like that story itself, like someone
Speaker 1: hid in the roof of Toys are Us. If you
Speaker 1: brought that script to a filmmaker, they go, oh no,
Speaker 1: that's so Yeah. Yeah, we have a friend. I want
Speaker 1: to message him and say, if he's available, I'm going
Speaker 1: to call him and get him to do it on
Speaker 1: the podcast right now. Toys are Us? Who does the
Speaker 1: the Toys are Us closing call? Yes, and he remembers
Speaker 1: it really well, and I want him to do it.
Speaker 2: That will be fantastic because yeah, this is kind of
Speaker 2: his his party trick where he does this if you
Speaker 2: just ask him politely or you don't even know to
Speaker 2: ask him politely really, but he'll just do it for you.
Speaker 2: And it's the closing call when he worked at Toys
Speaker 2: r Us or Toy World or one of them, and yeah,
Speaker 2: and he just did it. He always does it at
Speaker 2: a dinner party. It's like the final call of the night.
Speaker 2: Once you've had a few drinks. You go, Bill, do
Speaker 2: the do the Toys are.
Speaker 1: No, you don't have to ask, if he'll just do it.
Speaker 2: He's happy. Just call him, don't don't teach him. Just
Speaker 2: call me.
Speaker 1: I just said he's three for thirty seconds for me
Speaker 1: to call. But then I realized saying that, he'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh god, you know so I've said what we want?
Speaker 2: Yeah great.
Speaker 1: I think he's the kind of person if I just called,
Speaker 1: he'd think I was having some kind of mentib.
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, yeah, just going are you okay?
Speaker 3: Gee?
Speaker 1: What's opening?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: You go? Look, he has an answer, and I'm just
Speaker 1: going to try to.
Speaker 2: Call anyway, and if not, we'll insert it, edit it,
Speaker 2: edit it. Heah tension, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: As the time is approaching nine pm, Toys r US
Speaker 3: will be closing for trade in approximately ten minutes time.
Speaker 3: If you could please find Elijah purchases and make your
Speaker 3: way through to the front registers, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Speaker 2: I mean, half of the whole team.
Speaker 3: We'd like to thank you for shopping at the world's
Speaker 3: largest toy store, Toys r US.
Speaker 2: Try and call him. If it doesn't work, well, we'll
Speaker 2: let it.
Speaker 1: This bit of house this is fun, you know what
Speaker 1: it's like. It's like live radio or something.
Speaker 2: Something like that. It's also the day before Christmas Eve,
Speaker 2: when you're calling. That's a very funny time to be
Speaker 2: calling someone out of nowhere. This is good.
Speaker 4: I'm on.
Speaker 2: If he's screening your call.
Speaker 1: God, why do we look outside the window and we
Speaker 1: seen walking past looking at his phone and just.
Speaker 2: Putting back on.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Sorry his voice.
Speaker 1: Let's leave that in though, because he's got such.
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's put it in here if we get here
Speaker 2: for the episode. Gee. Anyway, that is a story of
Speaker 2: the roof man.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question for you, saying Peter, more
Speaker 1: than happy to answer. If you had to live in
Speaker 1: a store of any any sort for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: don't care what reason, What store would you choose to
Speaker 1: live in?
Speaker 2: That's going to be McDonald's from me. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: Stop doing that. You guys need to watch this on
Speaker 1: the YouTube. If your podcast exclusive listeners not watch us,
Speaker 1: please watch to this episode YouTube.
Speaker 2: Would you want to live?
Speaker 1: I have thought about this many times. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think like a Captain's News, like a like a
Speaker 1: furniture furniture.
Speaker 2: That's very smart. But I'd want to be somewhere where
Speaker 2: they have food as well, so I'd want to probably
Speaker 2: be maybe a Harvey Norman here in Australia.
Speaker 1: Norman doesn't have food. Oh hang on, I've got the
Speaker 1: perfect answer.
Speaker 2: I care, I care everything.
Speaker 1: And also like the you know, they've got the hot
Speaker 1: dogs and and everything I speak.
Speaker 2: From the other day, absolutely delicious.
Speaker 1: Well when you said, you could have said disgusting, because
Speaker 1: then by night you don't have to have a makeshift bed.
Speaker 1: Can you tell I'm like a perpetually sleepy person. My
Speaker 1: mind goes straight to I just want to bed, to
Speaker 1: be able to sleep at night. No, great, you're going
Speaker 1: to bed there even set them up like you know
Speaker 1: in the in the marketplace and not the marketplace, like
Speaker 1: the showroom section of Ikea. It's all set up and
Speaker 1: ready to go. The beds are there, go and have
Speaker 1: your dinner. Bed at night. They've got like that is
Speaker 1: an office spaces set up. You can pretend to do
Speaker 1: some work by day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's actually yeah, okay, No, you're right, you're
Speaker 2: actually right.
Speaker 1: Thank you. We just get that clean.
Speaker 2: You're actually right.
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm going to make that my ring tone.
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Speaker 1: Let us know. It's a new year, baby Dolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always. I think this comes out on Year's
Speaker 2: Eve maybe, but it's about it almost is the new year,
Speaker 2: So thank you for a wonderful year as well. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Is there any kind of Y two K bug issue
Speaker 1: like this year, any any concerns.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I think everything's going to be great.
Speaker 1: I won't get the camera. Get That's when you should
Speaker 1: have winked to the camera.
Speaker 2: A day wake everybody, Love you guys.
Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty six by