WEBVTT - Roofman

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to start today's episode by acknowledging the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we both have we each have beautiful men on

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<v Speaker 1>our T shirt. That's correct, I have one Michael Scott. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so a Christmas present you got me, Sammy is a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of Michael Scott holding his World's Best Boss mark

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<v Speaker 1>and it says, I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

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<v Speaker 2>I love good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing it. And then can you talk me through

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<v Speaker 1>your T shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing Dave Warnikee, who's wonderful comedian, wonderful podcast, a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful author, wonderful comedian, wonder my actor, friend, lover. But

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Warnikee, husband, our father, all those you to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know him intimately, very intimately. But yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>his bachelor T shirt that everyone gave out on his

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<v Speaker 2>day when he had his bachelor party where we went

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<v Speaker 2>to play Mario Kart in a cinema. Uh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>played Mario Kart in a cinema. Then we went to

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<v Speaker 2>a Text Mex restaurant all Day's favorite Things. We went

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<v Speaker 2>for a drink at a rooftop bar, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>went to watch Murray Wiggle play in his concert.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were all wearing those T shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all wearing this.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many years ago is that?

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<v Speaker 2>It was about four or five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you think anyone else from that bachelor party

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<v Speaker 1>has ever worn the T shirt? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I send us to Dave quite frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>And how often do you wear I got how often?

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<v Speaker 1>I say you you'd wear that at least once a month?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I reckon. I always take a photo of it

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm wearing it and send it to him. He

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<v Speaker 2>loves it. I think I've never asked. You're ready for this? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Wayne Scott ended a twenty year marriage and was

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<v Speaker 2>now a single mum. In two thousand and four, the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect man turned up to a church, the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>guy every girl would want. Soon they were dating. He

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<v Speaker 2>would constantly bring toys for her kids. But in January

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five, Lee was at work when a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer arrived at her work with a photograph. The

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<v Speaker 2>man who was in the photograph was the man that

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<v Speaker 2>she'd been dating. She said, that's John, But it wasn't John,

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<v Speaker 2>oh No. His real name was Jeffrey Manchester, an escaped

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<v Speaker 2>convict who'd been living in a Nearby Toys r US

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<v Speaker 2>for the last six months. This g Love is a

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<v Speaker 2>story of the roof Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, It's got everything, everything, toys, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>people called being divorced.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct everything everything you'd ever want. Merry Christmas Love. Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Alla Manchester aka the roof Man, was born in Sacramento, California,

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy one. Heit a typical Californian upbringing, nice weather.

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<v Speaker 2>He was always at the beach. He attended high school

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<v Speaker 2>and then enlisted in the military. No I know. I

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<v Speaker 2>said that about a typical Californian lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>And he started really high in the moon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen my favorite TV short all time? Frontline? Frontline.

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<v Speaker 1>I studied journalism, mate, that was that was my way

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<v Speaker 1>of study. Like that was my study. That was my bible.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an episode of Frontline to Frontline for people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. What's a current of Frere, A current of

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<v Speaker 2>fred We're doing well today, It's a current. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a whiskey sow a current A fair style show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a moat sitcom, a sitcom based on current affair

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<v Speaker 2>and especially like you know, news reporters in the nineties

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<v Speaker 2>and There is one episode where he would just read

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<v Speaker 2>anything off the autoque yeah, very very well way before

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<v Speaker 2>and he starts really high and he's going and of

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<v Speaker 2>course today three bodies were found. So good.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when I love. We should find some clips

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<v Speaker 1>of like examples of this when news readers will be

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<v Speaker 1>responding to like the end of a story or having

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of band with their co host and then

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the auto Q and realize it's really

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<v Speaker 1>sad happened. Like they go from going, ah, was a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderfullysta celebraction? Was it a four po were killed last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yea yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's find some examples of them, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey attended high school and then enlisted in the enlisted

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<v Speaker 2>in the military. He learned all the skills he needed,

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<v Speaker 2>including jumping from great heights, handling weapons, all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we're very familiar with in the military today.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is foreshadowing. Jumping from great heights

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<v Speaker 1>is not what I would usually put on the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list of things that I learned in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you.

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<v Speaker 2>At the age of twenty, he got married and started

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<v Speaker 2>a family. He had twin sons and a daughter. In

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen nineties, he traveled throughout the States, deployed to

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<v Speaker 2>several locations over that time. In nineteen ninety nine, he

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<v Speaker 2>and his family moved into military housing. The marriage deteriorated

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<v Speaker 2>over time, and around this time police were dispatched for

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<v Speaker 2>a domestic dispute. They soon divorced and she got custody

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, whatever the dispute was was enough for her to

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<v Speaker 1>get custody.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is what Jeffrey was accused of at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Over seven months, Jeffrey robbed over forty restaurants, most of

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<v Speaker 2>the McDonald's, for a total of seven hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>What he was the real life Hamburglar. Oh very good, now, Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that hamburg.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that Hamburglar.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what I do like Grimmins.

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<v Speaker 1>Hamburgers, Oh, yes, and Grimmens.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Jeffrey got better and better as time went on

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<v Speaker 2>at robbing these McDonald's. He had some problems early on.

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<v Speaker 2>One time he didn't know that the McDonalds was closed

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<v Speaker 2>for Thanksgiving and there's no money. But he eventually got

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<v Speaker 2>better and better with what he was doing. Armed with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun and a drill and power tools. He would

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<v Speaker 2>go on the roof before the store opened. He would

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<v Speaker 2>then hide in the bathroom until the store opened, and

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<v Speaker 2>at the perfect moment, reveal himself with a gun and

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<v Speaker 2>hold up the restaurant. He would then politely ask them

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<v Speaker 2>many to open the safe and the registers. He would

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<v Speaker 2>then direct all of the customers and employees in the

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<v Speaker 2>freezer to get them away, but he would always give

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<v Speaker 2>them a jacket first because he was very cold in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. He would then lock the freezer and

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<v Speaker 2>leave lock them in there well. On a few occasions

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<v Speaker 2>it would be known that he would fire a few

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<v Speaker 2>warning shots and people weren't listening to him, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was always very nice. He would then call the police

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as he left and tell them that the

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<v Speaker 2>hostages were in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>Please let them out so they wouldn't freeze it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Once people were all locked away, he would

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<v Speaker 2>raid any more registers and in the restaurant, and as

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<v Speaker 2>he was leaving, he would then call the police and

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<v Speaker 2>tell them about the people in the freezer so that

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<v Speaker 2>they would come and rescue them right away. He primarily

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<v Speaker 2>targeted restaurants in northern California, but he.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't, so he wouldn't be caught and labeled a cold

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<v Speaker 1>blooded killer because if they died, they would have had

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<v Speaker 1>cold blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Oh my god, that took me a second. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to explain it, but I really enjoyed it. A

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<v Speaker 2>edit this in here. That's also reference from Frontline edited here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's him in a promotional video trying to pretend he

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<v Speaker 2>knows what he's doing, and he goes edit it here

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<v Speaker 2>he's pointing, get a notepad. In northern California, but also Nevada, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>and Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to say, isn't It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>He did have a coast to coast reputation though, as

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<v Speaker 2>the most courteous thief in the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you have, if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>not have to. He didn't have to be known as

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<v Speaker 1>a thief. He could have just not thieved. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be known as a thief, I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nice one to be known as.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very polite. He was always apologizing, said would

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<v Speaker 2>you He would always say, would you please, ma'am get

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground. McDonald's at the time had a ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollar reward for his capture. He was a smooth operator,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were a few close calls. One time he

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<v Speaker 2>raced out the back door as police were coming through

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<v Speaker 2>the front door. There was another time where McDonald's employer

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<v Speaker 2>attacked him with a bucket, but it didn't go very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey piss a whipped a pistol whipped him to defend himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives knew he was military trained because he could hit

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<v Speaker 2>the floor from the ceiling and not miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 2>So he dropped right down from the ceiling, so they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh my god, here he knows what he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing here. He was cool, calm and collected, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>very polite. He could move really fast and without much sound.

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<v Speaker 2>In May two thousand, Jeffrey went to North Carolina. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasted little to no time getting to work. On May twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>he literally dropped into McDonald's in North Carolina, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>I did there, North Carolina? I'm just giving myself powdery back.

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<v Speaker 2>That had just closed for the night. He crept into

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<v Speaker 2>the restroom as he always did and stayed quietly. The

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<v Speaker 2>manager was checking the bathroom when he noticed there was

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<v Speaker 2>something off. Jeffrey appeared and moved everyone into the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the restaurant. There he had all the employers lie

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<v Speaker 2>on their stomachs. The manager was ordered to get the

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<v Speaker 2>money from the safe and then leave everyone else in

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<v Speaker 2>the freezer. He got in his car with one five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. Five hours later, he targeted another McDonald's, so

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't obviously happy with how much money he had

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<v Speaker 2>about to open, but this McDonald's was in Belmont, California,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where his luck finally ran out. He

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<v Speaker 2>climbed the roof as usual, about to cut the hole

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<v Speaker 2>using a raizor knife and then a power drill. It

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<v Speaker 2>took about forty minutes to get into the restaurant. Dropping down,

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<v Speaker 2>he waited in his hiding spot for them to open

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<v Speaker 2>the store. Then, once he thought it was the perfect time,

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<v Speaker 2>he went about his normal routine. He got the money

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<v Speaker 2>from the safe, then back then everyone in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>He had almost seven thousand dollars, this time from one

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<v Speaker 2>store in one store, as always. The manager later said

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<v Speaker 2>that he was very polite and was apologizing for what

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing, while his routine didn't change. Society had

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<v Speaker 2>at this time now silent alarms in the first door.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have one, but this one did. An employee

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<v Speaker 2>had actually set it off. There was a suspicious car

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<v Speaker 2>across the road at a local church. Jeffrey tried to

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<v Speaker 2>escape on foot, but police found him in some tall grass.

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<v Speaker 2>He was gracious when caught allegedly, saying, you guys did

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<v Speaker 2>a real good job today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's a bit hard not to like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, there's actually a film about it with Channing

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum who played Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, now I know he's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good looking guy. In court, they threw the

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<v Speaker 2>book at him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not literally, that would be very rude.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't confess to any other of the roofman crimes.

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<v Speaker 2>He admitted to the two in North Carolina that one night,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of said there was a copycat involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the others.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean smart defense, it's very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He told them that he had heard about the

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<v Speaker 2>roofman robberies and thought it sounded like a really good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was saying he was the kid heard about it. Ah, clever,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a smart defense.

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<v Speaker 2>By this point, he had robbed forty restaurants who he

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<v Speaker 2>was held on a one million dollar bond. He was

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced to a medium security prison. The sentence was forty

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<v Speaker 2>five years. Oh my god, in prison for the two

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald's in California. What hang on, I guess because it's

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<v Speaker 2>armed robbery. That's a severe sentence, though it's polite. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously the way you've told this is making me go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, nice about it. He got caught whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But she loved your going. Is this the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I'm not, because you started it. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about my good friend Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yes, but also the toys are don't forget the toys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the toys are ours.

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<v Speaker 2>The sentence was so harsh because of the added kidnapping

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<v Speaker 2>chargers where he had taken McDonald's employees to a freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, of course it's not. It's armed robbery and

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably breaking enter that's right, and kidnapping times. However,

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<v Speaker 1>many people were in the freezer each other. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be just one charge of like one count

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<v Speaker 1>of kidnapping. There were eight employees all in there. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>be eight counts of kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 2>And the greatest charge of all not loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, you just winked at the camera. That was so gross,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be a great clip.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a great clip. Didn't make it. Edit

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<v Speaker 1>it here and then use the bit of me going.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that lovely. Jeffrey was now thirty three years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, he played the perfect person inside. For the

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<v Speaker 2>first four years he was a model prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, if he looked.

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<v Speaker 4>Like person that takes it too far, well it's like

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<v Speaker 4>an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>For the first four years he was a model prisoner.

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<v Speaker 2>He got access to a metal plant where inmates made

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<v Speaker 2>bad frames and jungle gyms. The outside. Well, he also

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<v Speaker 2>paid very close attention to his surroundings and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the guards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he got.

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<v Speaker 2>In June two thousand and four, after less than four

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<v Speaker 2>years in prison, he enacted his plan. He had crafted

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<v Speaker 2>an escape patch made out of a piece of plywood

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<v Speaker 2>that would fit on the undercarriage of a delivery truck

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<v Speaker 2>that would leave the facility. He painted a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>cardboard black and held magnets to attach it so the

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<v Speaker 2>entire structure would appear invisible to any security guards who

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<v Speaker 2>were checking underneath the vehicle before it left. Really clever.

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<v Speaker 2>At three point thirty pm that day, the delivery truck

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<v Speaker 2>left the metal plant with Jeffrey underneath. He was actually

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<v Speaker 2>hanging underneath.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Whenever, Sorry, that's just made me think. I

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<v Speaker 1>my family went on holiday to Bali only like not

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<v Speaker 1>even a year after the Bali body eighty eight people,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we went there in a family holiday. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my mom saying I remember my mom saying it

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. You know, if anything were to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're together as a family, it's probably the safest time

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<v Speaker 1>to go because security is heightened. And never when we

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<v Speaker 1>went to like check into the hotel, the car that

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<v Speaker 1>had driven us from the airport into the hotel, they

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<v Speaker 1>then had security at all the gates that had mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>on long like long sticks that have mirrors, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they were like doing these mirror things. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember so clearly that the taxi driver turned to us

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<v Speaker 1>and they checked for the bomb, checked for the bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just so cute how he said it, like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just checking a bomb. Checked the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Check for the bomb. Is what I'm thinking they should

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<v Speaker 1>have done. Yeah, in this case, is the prison guard

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<v Speaker 1>should have took for the bomb check foot Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to GEP it alive. He'd intentionally chosen a rainy day,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's tracks and scent were hard to be tracked.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no we didn't there were no bombs on

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<v Speaker 1>our holiday. We were fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. He was the first prisoner to ever escape Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Creek Brown Creek Creational Institution. He was expecting the truck

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<v Speaker 2>to whisk him far, far away, but it stopped barely

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<v Speaker 2>outside the prison walls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, stay just stopped there. Yeah, So he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, sneaking away as quietly as he could. He

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<v Speaker 2>hitchhiked about fifty miles in Charlotte. He reinvented himself. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>lucky Charlotte. His name was now John Zorin, a generous

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<v Speaker 2>volunteer at cross Roads Presbyterian Church and working a very

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<v Speaker 2>secret and confidential job with the government. So how he

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<v Speaker 2>introduced himself. Oh, he had some cosmetic work done to

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<v Speaker 2>improve and somewhat disguise his appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very funny to say improved. No, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>change the way he looks. You're a firlot. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when people say they get a nose job for a

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<v Speaker 1>deviated Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, once the police found out he escaped. They assumed

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be heading back to Sacramento, but he didn't. He

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in the state. He found the perfect hiding spot

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<v Speaker 2>at Toys Are Us. It was a store.

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<v Speaker 1>You say that like it's a known thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>just pretend to be a cabbage patch kid.

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<v Speaker 2>The store had everything he needed. He had snacks and

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<v Speaker 2>baby food, bikes to ride at night for exercise, and

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<v Speaker 2>remote control cars to drive around the roof when he

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<v Speaker 2>was bored. Ah, there were also There was also an

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned Circuit City store, which is an electronic store next door,

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<v Speaker 2>which served as a perfect hideout during the day, so

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<v Speaker 2>when it was open, he could hide out next door.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't need to hide out there? Wasn't he going

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<v Speaker 1>to work at the church? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>But not always? So it's like, yeah, during the day when.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, yeah, is there?

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<v Speaker 2>He even set up baby monitors to watch the employees

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<v Speaker 2>come and go, oh my god, that's weird. Did he

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<v Speaker 2>know that they were coming so he could was like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's warning that he get out, but he's why weren't

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<v Speaker 2>his antiques caught on? In two thousand and four, Will

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<v Speaker 2>he worked out a way to cut the cameras at

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<v Speaker 2>night and restore them the next morning. By then he

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<v Speaker 2>was snuggled back at Circuit City to sleep. He had

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<v Speaker 2>built a tunnel from toys R Rush to Circuit City.

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<v Speaker 2>What Then he used a board which he painted to

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<v Speaker 2>match the wall, with a bungee cord to hold it

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<v Speaker 2>shut to make a door into the tunnel. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>used merch from toys R. Russ, a beard made out

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<v Speaker 2>of Spider Man sheets, and lots of other bits and

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<v Speaker 2>pieces to make his DIY homes. He had like soft

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<v Speaker 2>toy bears to sleep on, and he made it very

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Has gone Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>He also installed a smoke detector and alarm in his

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<v Speaker 2>hod out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>After a few months of smooth sailing, he started venturing

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world. This is where he started attending

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<v Speaker 2>a Presbyterian church. This is where he met Lee Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Scott and they hit it off right away.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was surviving as in like by eating Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>he literally surviving. We're eating baby food that they sold

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<v Speaker 1>it towards r that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, candy and that sort of stuff. Yeah, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>He totally worked for the government in a very secret job.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't tell her specifically what he did, and when

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<v Speaker 2>she asked to see his place, he'd say it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a government building, like a really sterile environment. You

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite a funny and clever way to hide that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a job, like rather than making up

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<v Speaker 1>a job and then hoping they're never asked to come

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<v Speaker 1>to your office. Or he's just saying I work for

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<v Speaker 1>the government and my job is secret. So I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that's actually really because people that will just go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well talking about the job. Just I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I am in the CIA.

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<v Speaker 2>If I told you, I'd have to kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA stop winking at the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey helped with Wednesday night Bible study, frequented a local

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<v Speaker 2>gym and went to the dentist regularly. He gave his

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<v Speaker 2>past because of all the candies. That's right. He gave

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<v Speaker 2>his past to the first few seasons of Signfeld, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Gift probably from the electronics store. I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut down, I'm sure, but like the circuit, city was abandoned.

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<v Speaker 2>A Charlotte police captain later said, I bet he spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone within a mile of the place. The church,

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<v Speaker 2>so It's like everyone knew him and as a lovely guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And why would you ever think this guy doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a home? No, so often because he only it's candy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well the Dentist's come back. I didn't mention

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<v Speaker 2>the dentist for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Reason, Okay, I mean I liked it anyway, just going

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<v Speaker 1>on flow never again that stop winking.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the guy who writes our themes on

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver Clark every time, because he would always I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he would be a big winker at the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be He's just got the energy of He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy of a winker. I love he does a thing

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<v Speaker 2>on stage, but I think he's one of the funniest

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<v Speaker 2>things ever. It's called the double take, where you you

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<v Speaker 2>look at someone and go, like, I say, you look once.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked twice.

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<v Speaker 1>But he does it to an audience and then.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, have you ever tried the three? And he

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<v Speaker 2>does the triple take? You stop on the Feds. Very good, Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>He does it much better, Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 1>To get Oliver back on the podcast because we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about himself and he could cover the Winter Bago.

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<v Speaker 2>Man and he could also do the Three take.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it just looks like you're shaky.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually he does it very well. Jeffrey helped with Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>Bible Study and gave his path to the first few

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<v Speaker 2>seasons of Sidepot on DVD. A Charlotte police officer later

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<v Speaker 2>said he spoke to everyone within a mile of the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Employees noticed lots of things going missing at the Toys

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<v Speaker 2>r Us and the police were called multiple times, so

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<v Speaker 2>we had quite a few close calls. Now, Jeffrey still

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<v Speaker 2>needed money to take his new girlfriend out on dates,

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<v Speaker 2>so he broke into a pawn shop and stall a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>He also managed pawn Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. He also changed employees rosters at Toys RS

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<v Speaker 2>to roam around the building freely. So so what he

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<v Speaker 2>just rostered?

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing Onyah, he started changing rosters.

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<v Speaker 2>So finally, the day after Christmas two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 2>he walked into Toys r US with a gun, not married,

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<v Speaker 2>going back to his old tricks. Police arrived very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Police dogs were brought in and found seven thousand dollars

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 2>worth of toys he'd hidden in the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you if you're going to rob somewhere for money?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but you'd set up to. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was getting a bit cocky, like he was

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<v Speaker 2>out in the wild a lot like well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say that out in society, not in the wild.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but he was out and about like I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was just getting cocky with it, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get found. He had that military training.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he thought, I'm the roof man, I

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<v Speaker 2>can get all over.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I suppose because he was set up in

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<v Speaker 1>there so well, he thought that would be like he

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<v Speaker 1>knew the workings of it, he'd be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>that more.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'm the roof man, not the roof kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop winking at the Okay, but.

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<v Speaker 2>This was all his undoing. So when they found the

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand dollars worth of stuff, somehow he got away.

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<v Speaker 2>A few days later, a Charlotte police officer was on

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<v Speaker 2>patrol and noticed a vacant circuit city store with the

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<v Speaker 2>power on but half of it blacked out. This officer

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<v Speaker 2>was curious to see what was going on, especially because

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<v Speaker 2>of the armed robbery that had just occurred. The officer

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<v Speaker 2>saw a makeshift door, and that's where he discovered Jeffrey's home.

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<v Speaker 2>There he found a fingerprint for the roofman himself. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Jeffrey Manchester.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so they'd found, had they They found seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of stolen stuff from toys r.

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<v Speaker 2>Uscal not him, not him, that's right. So he escaped

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<v Speaker 2>quickly and then they came back and power on there.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems really strange. It's abandoned while there's a power there.

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<v Speaker 2>The detective said that he'd never found someone so determined.

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<v Speaker 2>That night, his mugshot was plastered everywhere. Police finally wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to catch him and take him back to prison before sunrise.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey and that, sorry to interrupt. Imagine finding like a

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<v Speaker 1>store had been robbed and the seven thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of goods were taken, And you would never think that

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<v Speaker 1>that would then lead you to a man who escaped

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<v Speaker 1>from a forty five year.

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<v Speaker 2>Prison exactly, No, not at all. Yeah, before sunrise, Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>had returned to the dentist to retrieve his dental records

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>so they might be found and used against him. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he ended up setting the whole place on fire instead. Sorry,

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't find his records and he went, oh god,

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>just to the ground. Oh it was no use. People

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>already knew who he was. The people in the church

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 2>had their own suspicions about the clean cut, thirty three

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 2>year old who had just apparently fallen out of the sky.

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Detectives then went to speak with Lee. She eventually agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to help by arranging a meeting with Jeffrey. Jeffrey arrived

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 2>at Lee's apartment with a bouquet of flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>But light till the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then he was met with officers who placed

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>him under arrest. His ultimate mistake was going back for

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the girl one last time, said one detective. Jeffrey is

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<v Speaker 2>now serving his sentence and is due to be released

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and thirty six, where he will be

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>sixty five years old. He tried to change, so he

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 2>tried to escape once again. Of course, he did in

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine, and again in twenty seventeen. My god,

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>both attempts failed. He had a minor infraction in twenty

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 2>twenty where he had a substance possession somehow in Brisain chatting.

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum played Jeffrey Manchester in the twenty twenty five film Roofman,

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<v Speaker 2>which is worth a watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was kind of a I think an online

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<v Speaker 2>release film. Yeah, yeah, that g is the abridge story

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<v Speaker 2>of the Roofman Jeffrey Manchester.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it that the way his story is told

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<v Speaker 1>makes you completely flip whether you think this is like

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a good guy or a bad guy, Like obviously he's

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a bad guy kind of I'm like, oh, what a

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>shame his other escape failed attempts failed, like he could

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<v Speaker 1>have the best. Yeah, I don't know. There's something. There's

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>something about him that is I don't know a little.

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Or something like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not he's he's a criminal, armed robbery, thefts. Like there's

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>so much there that is very wrong. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Apart from the you know, there might have been a

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 2>domestic dispute. Apart from that, ye forgot about that. I

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think he ever hurt anyone.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, holding a gun to people and putting them.

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>In not everyone always is very polite, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so weird. I think it's his pretty privilege without

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>even me seeing him, but you're just saying he looks

0:25:54.840 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like Turning Tatum. This is like like unmitigated in the

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>back of my sub contest.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, it's pretty privilege. Dig says that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dum, Yeah, okay, he's very pretty.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I loved that story, so you.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that interesting. I just thought that was such

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>an interesting little story I could tell on a Thursday

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>as a bonus episode this week. And I've got lots

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>of ones I've been researching recently, and I love doing

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the Thursday treats. It's like, it's so there can be

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>a bit more uplifting, obviously than the.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Very much this I'm saying, like it's storytelling is so

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>funny in itself, Like the way you told that, We're like, yeah,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 1>it's uplifting, it's a treat. It's Thursday. We could have

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>told that from the perspective of one of the victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely like a heroin story.

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, and horrendous.

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And horrendous in all of.

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>The way, in all of the way.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to watch Roof Man.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>You watch Roof Mand You like it? I liked it. Yeah,

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not an incredible film, but they.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Make it a bit light.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they make it a bit light. Yeah, it's a

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>funny film. Watch us to kind of go, oh, this

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>is a true story. And I think when I watch

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>one of those kind of out there ideas and it's true.

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I like it a lot more.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you think like that story itself, like someone

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>hid in the roof of Toys are Us. If you

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>brought that script to a filmmaker, they go, oh no,

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that's so Yeah. Yeah, we have a friend. I want

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to message him and say, if he's available, I'm going

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>to call him and get him to do it on

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the podcast right now. Toys are Us? Who does the

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the Toys are Us closing call? Yes, and he remembers

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>it really well, and I want him to do it.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 2>That will be fantastic because yeah, this is kind of

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>his his party trick where he does this if you

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>just ask him politely or you don't even know to

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>ask him politely really, but he'll just do it for you.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's the closing call when he worked at Toys

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>r Us or Toy World or one of them, and yeah,

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and he just did it. He always does it at

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 2>a dinner party. It's like the final call of the night.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Once you've had a few drinks. You go, Bill, do

0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the do the Toys are.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't have to ask, if he'll just do it.

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>He's happy. Just call him, don't don't teach him. Just

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 2>call me.

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 1>I just said he's three for thirty seconds for me

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to call. But then I realized saying that, he'll be like,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>oh god, you know so I've said what we want?

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah great.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the kind of person if I just called,

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>he'd think I was having some kind of mentib.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, yeah, just going are you okay?

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Gee?

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>What's opening?

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Here?

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You go? Look, he has an answer, and I'm just

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>going to try to.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Call anyway, and if not, we'll insert it, edit it,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>edit it. Heah tension, ladies and gentlemen.

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 3>As the time is approaching nine pm, Toys r US

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 3>will be closing for trade in approximately ten minutes time.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 3>If you could please find Elijah purchases and make your

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>way through to the front registers, it'd be greatly appreciated.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, half of the whole team.

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>We'd like to thank you for shopping at the world's

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>largest toy store, Toys r US.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Try and call him. If it doesn't work, well, we'll

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>let it.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>This bit of house this is fun, you know what

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like. It's like live radio or something.

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Something like that. It's also the day before Christmas Eve,

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>when you're calling. That's a very funny time to be

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>calling someone out of nowhere. This is good.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm on.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>If he's screening your call.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>God, why do we look outside the window and we

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>seen walking past looking at his phone and just.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Putting back on.

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Hi.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Sorry his voice.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's leave that in though, because he's got such.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, let's put it in here if we get here

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 2>for the episode. Gee. Anyway, that is a story of

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the roof man.

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a question for you, saying Peter, more

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>than happy to answer. If you had to live in

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a store of any any sort for whatever reason, I

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>don't care what reason, What store would you choose to

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>live in?

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be McDonald's from me. I'm loving it.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Stop doing that. You guys need to watch this on

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube. If your podcast exclusive listeners not watch us,

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>please watch to this episode YouTube.

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Would you want to live?

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I have thought about this many times. I don't know why.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I think like a Captain's News, like a like a

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>furniture furniture.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 2>That's very smart. But I'd want to be somewhere where

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they have food as well, so I'd want to probably

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>be maybe a Harvey Norman here in Australia.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Norman doesn't have food. Oh hang on, I've got the

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>perfect answer.

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I care, I care everything.

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>And also like the you know, they've got the hot

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>dogs and and everything I speak.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>From the other day, absolutely delicious.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Well when you said, you could have said disgusting, because

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>then by night you don't have to have a makeshift bed.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell I'm like a perpetually sleepy person. My

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>mind goes straight to I just want to bed, to

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 1>be able to sleep at night. No, great, you're going

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to bed there even set them up like you know

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in the in the marketplace and not the marketplace, like

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the showroom section of Ikea. It's all set up and

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. The beds are there, go and have

0:30:54.920 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>your dinner. Bed at night. They've got like that is

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>an office spaces set up. You can pretend to do

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>some work by day.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's actually yeah, okay, No, you're right, you're

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>actually right.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We just get that clean.

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I'm going to make that my ring tone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it always. I think this comes out on Year's

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<v Speaker 2>Eve maybe, but it's about it almost is the new year,

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for a wonderful year as well. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any kind of Y two K bug issue

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<v Speaker 1>like this year, any any concerns.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everything's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't get the camera. Get That's when you should

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<v Speaker 2>A day wake everybody, Love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy twenty twenty six by