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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to furiously fail. Hello, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the pod. We have got a boomer of an

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Speaker 2: episode for you today. Lorna Jane Clarkson, Holy Mackerel. What

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Speaker 2: an epic human being. Incredible story, Also incredible human We

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Speaker 2: hung out for three hours just because she's a living legend.

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Speaker 2: But this human being has built an incredible active wear.

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Speaker 2: Also coined the term active where incredible active where, I

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Speaker 2: want to say empire from the ground up. Literally was

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Speaker 2: teaching aerobics classes and people would come up to her

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Speaker 2: after class and go, where can I get your outpit?

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Speaker 2: And she's like, well, I just made it. And then

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Speaker 2: she'd start making outfits for all the people in her class,

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Speaker 2: and then it kind of slowly was progressed to okay,

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Speaker 2: well now she bought it would bring a rack to

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Speaker 2: the side of the class. When she taught and then

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Speaker 2: by nineteen ninety she opened her first ever shop or store.

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Speaker 1: This human is unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: She's really I want to say, she's really excitable and

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Speaker 2: passionate and driven. And I think you're going to be

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Speaker 2: inspired by this human being. I know who I was

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Speaker 2: and I learned so much as well. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: Lorna Jane Clarkson, you are a legend. PS just want

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Speaker 2: to add on here. She's got a new book out.

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Speaker 2: It's called Nourish, the Fit Woman's Cookbook. I have had

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Speaker 2: more than a ganda through it. It's got her whole

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Speaker 2: health philosophy, but a ton of recipes and a whole

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Speaker 2: section on greens meetings.

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Speaker 1: So check it out.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, Lorna Jane Clarkson, you are founder and director of

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Speaker 2: Laurna Jane.

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Speaker 1: You're also a best selling author.

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Speaker 2: You're a speaker, a motivator, and I think a movement creator.

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Speaker 1: How does that sound. I think it sounds amazing. I

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Speaker 1: want to meet that girl.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can tell you we've just been having a

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Speaker 2: coffee together and you're a legend. So thank you for

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Speaker 2: jumping on this pod. What a great human being and

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Speaker 2: great story you have. But I have to tell you

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Speaker 2: my first ever memory of you. It was twenty fifteen. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I was in a room in Sydney with nine hundred

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Speaker 2: other women at a business chicks Brecky.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this? Of course I do that. It

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Speaker 1: was incredible. I was doing a tour of Australia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're in Melbourne right.

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Speaker 2: Well i'd been in Sydney for that one, but I

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Speaker 2: think you're just one Melbourne, just about in Melbourne. But

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Speaker 2: I was in I lived in Sydney for a little while.

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Speaker 2: And you're on the front cover of their magazine Latte

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Speaker 1: But was that when the waiter spilt the champagne all

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Speaker 1: over me? Oh my god, that was terrible. So I

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Speaker 1: think it was like twelve champagne flutes fell down my

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Speaker 1: didn't get my hair though, which was insame grace. If

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember it because was it to time

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Speaker 2: So that's my first ever memory of you. And then

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Speaker 2: I when I finally found out that, I was like,

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Speaker 2: did not know. First of all, I did not know

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Speaker 1: A dental net your a dentalness that right, get it right,

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Speaker 1: dental therapist, dental therapist, I get different. Well, you can

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Speaker 2: So, but you've always been so you're always super super

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Speaker 2: an outlet because you're like, I'm creative.

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Speaker 1: The exercise kind like fills avoid you know. I wasn't well.

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Speaker 1: Because I always have read a lot of books. I

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Speaker 1: So that's why it started. But then I started to

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Speaker 2: And then is it true you like you started kind

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Speaker 1: Really have done your research. Okay, so I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: perfect person to teach me how to sew. But the

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Speaker 1: because obviously actively and exists then, was because I just

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Speaker 1: here all these women who I've influenced already in so

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Speaker 2: And I think with you, it's a feeling too, like

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Speaker 2: And then there's a way of like actually having something

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Speaker 2: it's a beautiful I don't know, synergies are wrong word,

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Speaker 2: but okay, so I have to ask about the Jetsons.

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Speaker 1: I think off the cuff and have no regard at

436
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: all for you know, what the company represents and things

437
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, I still it was really interesting

438
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: because I did an interview once before and they asked

439
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: me a question about what. Oh, I can't remember the question,

440
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: but I had to ask my mother. The answer like

441
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: something about me as a child, what upsets you the most?

442
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: It was, oh, And I thought, like, I'm what was

443
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: as you're a child, what is the thing that used

444
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: to upset you the most? Or you didn't understand? And

445
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: I remember bringing up my mum and asking her, and

446
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: she actually wrote it down. I'm a very old school

447
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: and I still got it. But she said that even

448
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: as a child, I couldn't understand why people were mean.

449
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: So I would come home from school and someone would

450
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: have said something mean to me, and I was really

451
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: sensitive I still am, and they would say something mean

452
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: and I would just say, Oh, they'd be doing something

453
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: mean to someone else, and I'd say, Mummy, why are they?

454
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: Why are people so mean? Why are they picking on

455
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: that person? Or why a they're picking on me? And

456
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: I still don't understand that. I still don't understand that

457
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 1: people want to look for the bad in someone like

458
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, I consider myself. I'm going to blame on

459
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Trumpet here, but I consider myself someone who has done

460
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: a lot of good for women. And then there is

461
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: a hint or someone who nobody knows says something about me,

462
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: who has no credibility because no one knows who they are,

463
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: and then suddenly it's it's headlines. I just think all

464
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: the years of work that I've put in, you know,

465
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: wanting to genuinely have an impact on women's lives, and

466
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: then someone can say something that's so out of character

467
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: for me, and people want to believe it. Yeah, I

468
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: still don't understand that. So I think, out of everything,

469
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I can't that I battle with

470
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: and I still do. Like in the beginning, I think

471
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: the first thing that ever hit the press was that

472
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: I was advertising for a fit model, and you know,

473
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 1: as a business, we thought, well, maybe we can make

474
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: this into a full time position. So we'll have a

475
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: girl that we can fit our product and to make

476
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: sure that it's the right size, and we'll give her

477
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 1: hours on reception, so then we mean more to her,

478
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: she means more to us. And yeah, the ad wasn't

479
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: written that well, but you had to really try and

480
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: look for the negative to make it into Lorna Jane's

481
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: looking for someone who has to yes perfect size teams

482
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: to work on their reception, you know, like it was

483
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: just crazy and initially I thought that is so stupid.

484
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to even give it give it a comment.

485
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: And that was a lesson I learned, Like now I

486
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: know that if something happens, you've got to go out

487
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: there and you've got to say your piece and then

488
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: just leave it. But no, it's always hurtful. And you know,

489
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: I used to think you know, I don't really consider

490
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 1: myself a celebrity, but you know, celebrities would say I

491
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: don't read trash magazines, I don't listen to the media,

492
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: and I totally understand that now because you don't want to.

493
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Because I want my life to be based on doing

494
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: really good work. And that's my solution for all of this.

495
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: If something shitty happens, I just think, you know what,

496
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: say your piece, and then just go on and prove

497
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: them wrong by doing the stuff that you know that

498
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: you're trying to do and making a difference in women's

499
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: lives and just keep doing that and then all that

500
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: will go away. But yeah, it's awful, and I just

501
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: hate that it still continues and people still go through it,

502
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: and I feel for other people. Like when I see

503
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: things in the press now, I'm always like, yeah, well

504
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: that's probably not true. I have way more empathy for

505
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: people in the press now. I never believe anything on

506
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: face value. No, totally. One thing I'm trying to think.

507
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: I think it was in the Mark interview, and what

508
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: is I think it was my favorite thing.

509
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: It's you self.

510
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: Just you described yourself as having an inner tiger. I

511
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: love this so much, like cause like I would say

512
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm similar to you and that I'm really positive and

513
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: I love doing things that fuel a passion and that's the.

514
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Creative I feel as well.

515
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: But like when the chips are down, I know how

516
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: to like have hold my back strong. And when you said, no,

517
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: I've got in a tiger, don't get me wrong, and

518
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I want to hear about this

519
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: inner tiger.

520
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Speaker 1: Is that? What is it? Like the drive and the

521
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: determination and the gumption. I didn't realize I had this

522
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: inner tiger until a few people pointed it out to me.

523
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: But apparently my trainer tells me something that comes across

524
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: my face, like it's like a look like a you know,

525
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: sorry guys, you can't see it, but it's like this

526
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: like this look that's like it switches on amazing. And

527
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: it can be just something someone says to me, like

528
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: you can't do that, and I'm going to show you

529
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: I can do that. Yeah, or but it's also a

530
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: maternal thing as well, like if you know, if someone

531
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: says someth about someone or does something to someone I love,

532
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: like it clicks in as well. But yeah, I think

533
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: in business or when you have a dream and a

534
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: passion and drive to do something. You have to have

535
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: that because you know, there's so many challenges and you

536
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: have to you know, pick yourself up off the ground

537
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: and go for it again. And that's when you have

538
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: to find that extra strength and encouragement and passion to

539
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: say I'm not going to let this beat me. And

540
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: that's really what that is, I guess, that extra lift. Yeah,

541
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's like that unwavering fire. It

542
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you don't lie on the floor in a

543
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: heap for a day. We all do that, you know

544
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you don't want to see people

545
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: and you're upset and you're crying and all that sort

546
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: of thing doesn't mean you're not human, but you just

547
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: manage to put yourself back on track again. And you know,

548
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: sometimes that whole not showing that you've broken down is

549
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: probably a bad thing that I do. Like I hide that.

550
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: I look at it as a weakness because then people

551
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: don't see the impact that these things have on me,

552
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

553
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, I watch that story that you were talking about

554
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: just before, about the ad for the Fit Model, and

555
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: you cry in that interview and you feel and you're like,

556
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: oh no, I didn't want to do this. Like in

557
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: the middle of crack, You're like, I'm angry that myself

558
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: for doing this, but it showed such vulnerability that I

559
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: was like shivers, Like you don't realize the And that's

560
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: the other thing, and how you were saying you've got

561
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: you really feel for celebrities and whatnot, because no one

562
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: realizes the the.

563
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: Repercussions of stories like that.

564
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: Sure, so it's a clickbait story, but like, how does

565
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: it make you feel at the end of the day.

566
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: It can be horrid and so yeah, you're a legend.

567
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: I could talk to you all day about that. But

568
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: so another thing I'm really interested in just in your

569
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: take on do you believe in making mistakes? Forget that story,

570
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: like in life in general, do you believe in making mistakes?

571
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going to intentional thing, right,

572
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a mistake because I want to

573
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: have a lesson. I'm not I'm not going to do that.

574
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that the biggest learnings that you

575
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: make in life is because you do make a mistake

576
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: and you do feel pain, and you do have to

577
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: then find a solution to move forward. I mean, there's

578
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: so many quotes and I can't think of one off

579
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: the top of my head, but so many Edison quotes

580
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: and things like that. Was like how many times did

581
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: he fail before he invented the light bulb? You know.

582
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: There's so many things like that and stepping outside of

583
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: your comfort zone, making mistakes, learning lessons, growing like change

584
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: does not exist inside your comfort zone. I fully, I

585
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to touch on that because.

586
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: I know, I love the way you talk about why, yeah,

587
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: you don't go out going I want to fail today,

588
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: you know, But when it happens, and you've got retrosp

589
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: and you look back and you're like, actually, if that

590
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: thing didn't happen, I would have learned X, Y, and

591
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: Z about this thing, you know, And so I'm wrapping, And.

592
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: That's what's important. What you're saying there is that then

593
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: you look back, because when you make the mistake, it

594
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: could be a week, a month, six months, a year

595
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: before you actually appreciate that mistake totally. So the pain

596
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: that you feel from making a big mistake can last

597
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: a long time. But you all down the track realized

598
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: that it was a lesson, it was meant to happen.

599
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: What do they say things don't happen to you that

600
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: happen for you. Oh yeah, that's a good dy, that's

601
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: a real goody.

602
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: I know you're a yogi. I'm also a little bit

603
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: of a yog star. Do you get burnout? And if

604
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: you do, how do you handle burnout?

605
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I've had like a huge burnout as such,

606
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: because I'm I think the active living and move nourigably

607
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: philosophy doing the things every day really prevents that. Like

608
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: I never get that feeling that oh my god, I

609
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: want a holiday other than I need to change an environment.

610
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: So I think I've mastered this no burnout because I

611
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: do make sure that I have days of rest through

612
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: the week, Like I really keep it short term and

613
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: don't let myself get to that point. I mean that's

614
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: really easy to say now that I have a successful business.

615
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: I know, in the early days, when you're doing everything

616
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: yourself and you feel like there's no one to help

617
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: you and you have to do it all, it's never

618
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: going to happen and you are living, you know, hand

619
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: to mouth type thing. Yeah, it can be challenging, but

620
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: that's when meditation and yoga and just finding thirty minutes

621
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: and those sorts of things are the things that will

622
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: stop burnout. I think so, And it's very personal. You've

623
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: got to find what works for you. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

624
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: For me, I go to the movies. I'm like, I

625
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: need to chill out. I need to look at something

626
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: creative and escape.

627
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: Or reality TV. I just love reality Well, you know,

628
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: I feel guilty the whole time I'm watching it, but

629
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I it's like my dirty secret. I just like, do

630
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: you have a favorite reality show? Well, at the moment,

631
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: it's Maths. I should say Celebrity Print. Yeah, but yeah,

632
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I just think I don't know, I will. I shouldn't

633
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: say this, but it just makes you feel good about

634
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: your relationships because they're just showing these relationships that they're

635
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: just like basket cases. But no, but I think it's

636
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the same thing, right, it's escapeisn't Yeah? Yeah? What about Celebritry?

637
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna ask you about it, But in a nutshell,

638
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: what would you say if you could?

639
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: If someone said what on Earth was like?

640
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: Because as a viewer, I think what we see is

641
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: often different to what you are going through.

642
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: What can you share? For me, the hardest thing was

643
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: not being in control. So you know, I've had I've

644
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: had a business for thirty years, and I just felt

645
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: like I could have done things better. It's all obviously subjective,

646
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: but I just feel like for me, the challenging thing

647
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: is actually not being in control and not being able

648
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: to change things and make it better, and then shooting

649
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: the show and then not knowing till later. I mean,

650
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: as advisors we got to see the shows before they

651
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: were aired, but not knowing till later what it was

652
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: going to look like. You know, I would love to

653
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 1: have had more of a vision while it was happening

654
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: to make it better. I mean, it was one of

655
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: the top rating shows. It was fine, they didn't need

656
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: my help, but you know, it was that I just

657
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: like to be more creative than what I do. I'm

658
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: not really just someone that you can put in and

659
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: and just not that we were acting, but I don't know.

660
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Were you scared at all? Was it like there were

661
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: a bit of fear in it? Or you like, nah,

662
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: here I go.

663
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Everyone else on the show had done TV before, and

664
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: I've done TV, but just when being myself on TV

665
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: talking about myself, yeah, or promoting my book or you

666
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like it was really familiar, so

667
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know camera angles or where to look or

668
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, all that sort of thing. So daunty, yeah,

669
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: and if it's multi cam, and no one thought to

670
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: tell me. So I was thrown in the in the

671
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: deep end. But I enjoyed it. I mean it was

672
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: it was the middle of lockdown COVID. We've been lockdown

673
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: for so long and no one was doing anything, and

674
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: it was really nice to go to Sydney and spend

675
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: time with my friends and Ginine and I get on

676
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: so well, and and I met some amazing people. The

677
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: celebrities on our show were incredible, you know. So yeah,

678
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: I did enjoy it. Would I like it to be

679
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: my full time job. Probably not. It's long hours, isn't

680
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: it not for us? For your celebrities?

681
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, but you're all right, oh yeah far out.

682
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so funny. It's a good show though, it's a

683
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: really good show.

684
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Did you learn like how you said, like you know,

685
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: camera angles, where to look, I line marks, all that

686
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

687
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: Did you pick that up pretty quick? No? I don't.

688
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it was only watching it that I realized, well,

689
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, if I did it again, I would do

690
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: this differently, and you know what tells you know what

691
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: is it? It's the survival of the fittest. Like I

692
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: would never do that. I would, you know, I would

693
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: want like knowledge is power. So I just feel like

694
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: if you want a great show, you should.

695
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: Especially in the entertainment industry. I remember I watched an

696
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: interview when I first started doing more in TV and

697
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: Hamish Off Hamis Shandy was being interviewed back in.

698
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: The like heyday of their radio show.

699
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: And I remember watching him being interviewed on a multi

700
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: cam morning show and he told a joke but landed

701
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: it down the barrel of the lands and.

702
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you know to do that?

703
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I still don't know how to do that. He was

704
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: chasing the red light like he would have been looking

705
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: at it. If that was me, my eyes would be

706
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: going everywhere, my head would be going everywhere. But you know,

707
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: like in like in respect for Bridier planets too, though,

708
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: like I could have asked what was that? Why didn't

709
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: I ask? Was it my ego? You know what I mean?

710
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Like if you're overwhelming though there's a lot I mean,

711
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I get onto a set, I love being on a set,

712
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: but I start sweating straight away like it is overwhelming,

713
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: but it's.

714
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: Good to do something different. Like that was me stepping

715
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone because I was just getting

716
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: so bored because our life had turned into this really

717
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: small life of work, home, work, home, not being able

718
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: to go see your friends. You know. We couldn't even

719
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: go to a bea chance. It was just awful, like

720
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, and then you didn't want to complain because

721
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, people were getting really sick, you know. So yeah,

722
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: but good experience overall.

723
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got to talk about that. Okay,

724
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: there's so many things. Okay, this is going to be

725
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: such a random question. Okay, I I know that you,

726
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: like me, have a sweet too.

727
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Is it true that you eat dessert nearly every night?

728
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Every night? No, sometimes I have two I'm disgusting. Well

729
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm British, right, so you always. But I guess that's

730
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: my philosophy around food is like eat good food like

731
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: and you are what you eat so similar to you.

732
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, I find unprocessed natural waste of sweetened things.

733
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: You know. I have I call my chocolate balls, but

734
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: they're being really cacao and peanut butter balls with I

735
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: saw a reci before something like that in here. They're

736
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: my favorite things, so I freeze them. They're in the freezer.

737
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I have one every night. You know. My sister's living

738
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: with my husband I at the moment in Brisbane, and

739
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: she she watches like we've been watching Married at for

740
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Sad and she watches Bill come out with my chocolate

741
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: bawl and.

742
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: Give it to you.

743
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: What is that? I love it?

744
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: But it's so nice hearing because, like you know, as

745
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: someone that I've had eating disorders in the past, and

746
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: so sometimes desserts I have a.

747
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Bit of guilt around.

748
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: But and that's what I loved and that's why I

749
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: want to talk about the book. As you can see,

750
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm a virgo and it's got about forty five notes

751
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: in it. I'm obsessed with the smoothie section. Oh yeah,

752
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: I obsessed.

753
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: Did you like the way I broke down the different

754
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: types of smoothies because I think it's it's actually overwhelming

755
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: for people and they'll come to our house and they'll

756
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: have our green smooth and they, oh, I'm never drinking

757
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: that ever in my life. But it is like you've

758
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: got steps. Yeah, you can start like gentle and then

759
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: get to hardcore. I love hardcore.

760
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: I love.

761
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna have something green, I want green. Yeah,

762
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

763
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: But I'm a dessert person. There's like this, you've got

764
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: this like ice cream stop.

765
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I know, but you know, one of the best dessert

766
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: recipes in there is the watermelon cake. I saw the

767
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: watermelon cake. It's like it's incredible. So it's just half

768
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: a watermelon. You make it so it looks like the

769
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: shape of the cake, and then it's just ricotta, cheese

770
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: and honey and you put food on top of. But

771
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: what I'll do, like if I've got Bill's friends coming over,

772
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: it's like I'll completely put the ricotta all the way

773
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: around so it actually looks real cake, and they're like

774
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: super excited. It's really like the is like looks like

775
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: meringue on the outside, so it looks like whoa Laurna's

776
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: made a cake, and everyone thinks, oh, she's a pretty

777
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: good cook. Blah blah blah subjective again, and then I'll

778
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: chop it and they see the watermelon. They're so disflated

779
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: like it. But then they eat it and it's so delicious,

780
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: especially if you obviously we eat in seasons. Watermelon's really good. Oh, yeah,

781
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: try it's delicious.

782
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to definitely right another part that I

783
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: really loved about. By the way, we're talking about Nourish

784
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: the Fit Woman's cookbook. So this it came out the

785
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: end of last year, right.

786
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's a relaunch of the original, because this

787
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: is I mean, I think it's six books, so it's seven.

788
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: I can't remember how many of them done.

789
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: I actually I was looking like I've got question mark

790
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: next to books.

791
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: I think it's six. We'll say six today, So it's

792
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: out of all the books I've done. It was the

793
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: first cookbook, even though all my books have recipes in that,

794
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: and it's the most requested. So we'll do a print run.

795
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: We'll sell out. We'll do a print un we'll sell out.

796
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: And I actually couldn't bring myself to rerun it again

797
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: for this Christmas Christmas Traine twenty one without changing the images.

798
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Number One, I thought they were very dated. I've bit embarrassing.

799
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: But two, I just didn't want to be that woman

800
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: that shows keeps stays at a certain age, she keeps

801
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: using the same pictures.

802
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Can I say these photos are absolutely stunning?

803
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: I know, I love it. It's actually we just bought

804
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: a farm and we shot them all at the farm,

805
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: and I've got such an incredible Your farm looks so good.

806
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: I stalk your insta by the way at the farm

807
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: for sitting at the farm today.

808
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: You have the barn doors in the background. They're in

809
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: some of these shots. I'm so lucky. I'm so lucky

810
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I do.

811
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: The other section that I really love because it's seeming

812
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: so true to me as a nutritionist, is how.

813
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: You're really anti dieting. I loved reading this.

814
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: It was so refreshing for me, who has got a

815
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: diet book in that I wrote many years ago that

816
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: give them my time again. I wouldn't writ a diet

817
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: book because I also don't believe in them now. But

818
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: I love that your philosophy is don't like don't diet,

819
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: and you're all about just really simplifying it, right, that's

820
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: your whole jam.

821
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: Like just eat real food like you said before, real food,

822
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Like it's everyone knows what real food as well. Educate

823
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: yourself like the book, what you get the book, but

824
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: what you eat is so important. It's how you feel

825
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: your body. It's how you think, feel behave every single days.

826
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: Like put some time in experiment with your body, experiment

827
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: with foods eat what makes you feel good in the morning.

828
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: It won't be the same as someone else. It was

829
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: like I remember doing a talk in la in one

830
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: of our stores. I had Daniell Laporte there and I

831
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, sastruck. I was sitting next to each

832
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: other and people are asking us questions, and it was

833
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: constantly questions about what do you do for this? Lorna,

834
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: what do you do for this? Daniel, what do you

835
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: do for this? And Daniel was so good in that

836
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: she said, hey, guys, we can tell you what we

837
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: do and you can get tippits, but please be cause

838
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: they're all writing it down like it was you know,

839
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: God's words, you know, and we just said figure it

840
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: out for yourself. You've got to do the work. We

841
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: haven't come up with this just some reading books all

842
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: asking someone else what they did. We've actually played around

843
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: and had fun with it and worked out what works

844
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: for us, you know, And I think that's important. So

845
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: that's why diets don't work, because they're very prescribed, and

846
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: you know, you can't look at someone and think I'm

847
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: going to look like her if I follow her diet.

848
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: She has totally different genetics to you. Well you know

849
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: what that say.

850
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: And I think as well, the whole like depriving yourself

851
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: never works. It's like if I say, you're never going

852
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: to have the best brownie in the world ever again,

853
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: even if it's vegan and da da dah, you're going

854
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: to go buy five of them the.

855
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: Twenty I'm going to stock up on them. Totally Toyler's time.

856
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: I find it so refreshing and this was such a

857
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: joy I actually you're gonna laugh. I read it like

858
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: a novel because when I have authors on I like

859
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: to like really soak the book up. And it was

860
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: so much fun to read and review as well. I've

861
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: reviewed it on the pod so rip a book and

862
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: I because I haven't readen cookbooks for so long, it

863
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: was so much fun to look at and be like,

864
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I want to try that recipe.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to try that. I'm always drinking

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Speaker 1: one with a fish that looks insane. I always read

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Speaker 1: books like that. But can I tell you a story

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Speaker 1: about narration. You probably don't even realize this. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Women's Health Australia and they were looking at cookbooks.

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Speaker 1: They were looking at sports bras they were looking at

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Speaker 1: and you're one of the judges, so I don't you'll

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Speaker 1: know what magazine and you picked Nourish as the best

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Speaker 1: cookbook and that was the first original one I'm going

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Speaker 1: to find it. Oh my god, there was one of

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Speaker 1: my actual first experiences of someone who works in a

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Speaker 1: similar arena to me. So you were writing cookbooks, yeah, yeah,

877
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Speaker 1: and you actually said that mine was the best. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was even cookbook. I think it

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Speaker 1: was actually health books. So for you to actually say

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Speaker 1: that someone who was up against you in an arena

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Speaker 1: that I was the best, it actually meant a lot

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Speaker 1: to me. And we never met. No, how cool is that?

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Speaker 1: I thought? First of all, she is such a cool

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Speaker 1: chick because she is actually telling people that my cookbook's great,

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Speaker 1: and she writes cookbooks. You know. I just thought it

886
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: was so genuine and honest. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: tell you so that you go, that's why you like it,

888
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Speaker 1: because the second time around just just reworked.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that totally made my day, like totally

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Speaker 2: totally made my day.

891
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Speaker 1: Now I have to ask this.

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00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: You are such a go getter and your energy is

893
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: so infectious, and I knew it'd spent half this interview

894
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: cacking up laughing, Then that's just I love your nature.

895
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Speaker 2: But if someone's listening to this and they're like, I

896
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Speaker 2: want to have this courage. I've got this dream, but

897
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Speaker 2: you know, I think people get a little bit not

898
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Speaker 2: necessarily in their head, but I think you've got to

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Speaker 2: have this sense of real courage and this sense of

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00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: backing your dream, whatever that may be. What would your

901
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: advice be someone that's feeling a little bit like I've

902
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: got this dream, I just don't know how to take

903
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: that step.

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Speaker 1: I think it's to understand, I guess, and I can't

905
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: say in a few words because it's way more complex

906
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: than that. But I think to understand that it isn't easy,

907
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: and that's what makes it so fulfilling. If it was easy,

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00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: everyone would be doing it, and you'd see a million

909
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: successful people and a million people like living their life

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Speaker 1: that they love. But they're not. And I think the

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00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: ones that succeed are the ones that do find that

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Speaker 1: gumption that in a tiger to actually go, Okay, made

913
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Speaker 1: a bad decision, this is getting tough, but I'm not

914
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: giving up. So that's that never give up sort of

915
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: attitude that you need because so maybe maybe when they're

916
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Speaker 1: these people listening to the podcast chasing their dream, maybe

917
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Speaker 1: they need to think about you and I who have

918
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: had some kicks. You know, we'd been lying on the

919
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Speaker 1: bathroom floor, we've done all those things. But we then

920
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: decide that what we have is important. It's important to us,

921
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Speaker 1: it's important to other women in the world, and we

922
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Speaker 1: need to step up and keep going. Like what else

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Speaker 1: am I going to do for people listening?

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Speaker 2: Lorna's eyes lit up, you know how you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the Tieys As you were saying that even just like

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Speaker 2: to never give up is like I think people see

927
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Speaker 2: the success and you know they'll see your amazing. Like

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Speaker 2: I went hiking just on the weekend with my bestie.

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Speaker 2: She lives on the Gold Coast, so I drive up

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Speaker 2: and we do Bury Headland together and she was in

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Speaker 2: the sickest two piece and was bike shorts and a

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Speaker 2: crop and I was like where the f I was like,

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Speaker 2: where did you get them? They look amazing? And she's

934
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Speaker 2: like only the best. Lorna Jane love her and she

935
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Speaker 2: then said she goes you can never go wrong, And

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Speaker 2: this is a girl that's like worn all the cour

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Speaker 2: she always has the coolest active wear on no matter what,

938
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Speaker 2: and she was like, it stands the test that you

939
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: can go back over and over again and you're always

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Speaker 2: going to find something that's coming from someone that just

941
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Speaker 2: like didn't And I said, oh my god, I mean,

942
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Speaker 2: you know.

943
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Speaker 1: Like this isn't it crazy how small your world gets?

944
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Like you're going to be doing an interview, we're doing

945
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Speaker 1: the podcast and then you see Launa Jane everywhere people

946
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Speaker 1: start talking about and think, oh my god, it's like

947
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Speaker 1: this magnetic But it was.

948
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Speaker 2: So interesting and I just think you're such a force.

949
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Speaker 2: And I have no idea how we haven't run into

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Speaker 2: each other and got to hang out sooner. But thank

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Speaker 2: you so so much. You have totally made my day

952
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Speaker 2: and I hope the people listening have just got so

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Speaker 2: much out of this because you're an absolutely being legend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, And you know what, come to Lowe's Place

955
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Speaker 1: because the coffee is really good. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lulla Berry. This potty my word for

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Speaker 1: podcast is available on all streaming platforms.

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