1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Nimmi Wards, we've unearthed here a cold case. We've had 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: some brilliant cold cases on this show recently. We'd love 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: nothing better than digging up something that's been festering over 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: the years. This one ten years, ten years a crime 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: was committed. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: A guy called Paulo called. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Us yesterday really upset, really traumatized by something. He came 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: to us cap in hand and said, boys, for ten years, 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: I've been accused of something which I didn't do, and 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: I want you to get to the bottom of it. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: So we are very happy to. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: Reopen the cold case in what is turning out to 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: be a humdinger of an investigation. 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: What is it? 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: It's a few years ago. 17 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 5: We were at university, but I lived in a house 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 5: with four boys because I have one night where we 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 5: just lent loose. We all have to have friends on campus, 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 5: so we all went to the different houses and the 21 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 5: next day there the story that someone had done it 22 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 5: too in one of the girls' bathroom bats. I get 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: accused of being the mat tour. 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 4: You've been hipper Pool criminal ed dwelling woodies who done it? 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: Kaisik Poh done it? Woods? We'll get everybody across it. 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: So in a nutshell, two houses they're at college together. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: We've got the boy's house, Paulo, Poss, Ditch, Wax, is 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: it Wax, Yeah, the boys. There are four boys there, Paulo, Poss, 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Dig and Wax. We've got the girl's house, Eve, Grace 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: and Prue. Right, they all party one night, they wake 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: up the next morning and in the girl's house there 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: is somebody has poohed on the bath mat in the 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: girl's house. 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: By day we established that Eve was the woman who 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: found the pooh on the mat, although she again she 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: had shady memory on it. She said, I've got holes here. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure if I was the 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: one who found it. That was a bit sus but 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: she confirmed that she was. If other people are saying it, 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: she's the one who found it. But to add a 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: little bit of souring us to puss his milk or 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: whatever that terminology. 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Vinegar and pussy his milk. 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: She has now flown to Europe. Yes, so we spoke 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: to in the queue of a plane which has flown 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: to Europe. 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: She's conveniently left the country and I think we've lost 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: the prime suspect. For me, she stank of guilt all 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: the way to the conversation yesterday. She was coy, she said, 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: she blacked out when she saw it. She doesn't even 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: remember it. So look, I think we need to speak 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: to another person in the house. By the way, if 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: you're following the amount of messages we've had on this case, 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: and it's enormous, like there are so many people who 55 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: are invested in this. There are people who were there 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: who parted with them, There are people are sending us maps, 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: people are sending as charts as they're trying to figure 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: it out in their homes. 59 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: I've got the map in front of me, by the way, 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: that someone has put together, which is extraordinary. Okay, something 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: that came up on the podcast Will and. 62 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Woody on the socials if you want to see this 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: stuff for yourself. 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Something that came up on the podcast. And by the way, 65 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: we go into this further on the podcast. So Will 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: and Woody rev get your podcasts from. We thought that 67 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: maybe it could have been an accidental pooing. 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's for me still a question. 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: Well, if you look at the mat which has been drawn, 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: the mat is in a completely different room to the toilet. 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: It's a bathroom mat to the shower. 72 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: Right, so I'm willing the toilet's more of a powder room. 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: I am willing to strike out accidental pulling. This is 74 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: a deliberate, deliberate, heinous crime. 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: Wow, that really adds something, doesn't Could someone have yeah, okay, 76 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't block it out to me. 77 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, they might have thought that the shower was like that. 78 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: We know they were all very drunk. I don't want 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: to they were kids, they're nineteen. We've all heard it 80 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: was a huge night. 81 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: There's half a chance that somebody couldn't hold it went 82 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: in the shower door instead of the butt the toilet. 83 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: For more of these answers, let's get to our guests today. 84 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Our first, our first witness that we call to the 85 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: stand is Preu, one of the three girls, Prue, Grace 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: and Eve, remember lived in the girl's house. 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: It's Pru's house. 88 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: It's Pru's bathmatt that was actually poohed on ten years ago. 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Pre welcome to whihim. 90 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 6: Hello, and thank you for investigating this crime. I've been 91 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 6: waiting for years to find out. So it happened to 92 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 6: my bath mat. 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: But over the last ten years pro Have you been 94 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: of the opinion that it is Paulo who did the poop? 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: Look, I have to be honest, I have believed that 96 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 6: it was Paulo. But since this investigation, I'm starting I 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know anything anymore. 98 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you run us through from your perspective what 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: happened on that fateful morning when the tusie was found 100 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: on the mat? 101 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: All right, So I'm in bed and I hear this 102 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 6: scream from Eve. What's happened? She And that's when she 103 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 6: yelled at there's a pooh. And at this point we 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 6: had a cat in the house, and I'm like, of 105 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 6: course it's a cat on a mat, Come on anyway, 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 6: So yell back, do you think it's a cat poo? 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 6: And She's like, no, there's definitely a human pooh. 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: Wow, Wow interesting. Okay, So then did you go and 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: did you go and have a look? Then did you 110 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: did you witness the tuesday on the mat? 111 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 6: So I jumped up and I've gone running in and look, 112 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 6: there's no doubt about it. This was a human pooh 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 6: right in the middle of my bath mat. And not 114 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 6: just any old bath mat. It was one of the 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 6: nice bath mats, you know, one of the ones with 116 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: the tussles on the side. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: So it's yours. So you was it known that you 118 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: loved the mat? 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 6: Pre Look, I don't know if I verbalize from the 120 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 6: people of campus and I loved it, but you know, 121 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 6: amongst my housemates, I knew I loved the mat, So. 122 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: That your housemates knew you loved the mat, because for me, 123 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find a motive here. 124 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: That's what I think we're lacking. We need the you. 125 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: Know, we need to know why someone would do this. 126 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: And if people knew that you loved the mat, see, 127 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: that's a revenge crime for me. 128 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: Or dare I say it? Preue? 129 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: You could have poved on your own bath mat as 130 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: a way to incriminate somebody. 131 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 6: Use absolutely not. I mean, what person whoo's in their 132 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 6: own house? 133 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: Well most people in their own house to be on 134 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: the on their on their matt pro. 135 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: At the time of the pooing. Did you have any 136 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: known people that you would deem an enemy or someone 137 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: who would want to get you? 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't think so, but I guess you 139 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 6: just never know. 140 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: No, you don't, Okay, Pru, what's your what's your relationship 141 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: with the man people called Poss. 142 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 6: So Poss was Eve's boyfriend and he lived in our house. Well, 143 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 6: so he was kind of floating. They lived with. 144 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: Us, right, okay, So so he's seeing Eve, he's over 145 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: there frequently. Do you think Poss would have a reason, 146 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: because I've heard that Poss was the man to roll 147 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: his sleeves up and clear out the Tusay he was. 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 7: It was a. 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: Heartbreaking moment when I had to say to him, just 150 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 6: put the mat in the bit. 151 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: Okay, so the mat. So he put the whole out 152 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: the bin. 153 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 6: Okay, he put the whole thing in and that thing's gone. 154 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: Okay obviously, so okay, Well, wood he shout himself recently 155 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: and decided to wash them those jocks, and he still 156 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: wears them. 157 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: It's not important. 158 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: Preu's down the fight. We're gonna go to a song. 159 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: We've got Poss, who's going to join us right up next. 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: We've got to dig deeper here. We got the post postman. 161 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: We've managed to get him. Thankfully, he's not on the 162 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: line for ano an international flight. 163 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: He's on the ground. Will and Woody Pooh done it. 164 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Ten years ago, a random log was found on a 165 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: bathroom matt in a college campus, in a girl's villa. 166 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: Three girls lived there, Grace, Pru and Eve. A guy 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 3: called Paulo was well. He was hung up to dry woods. 168 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: He was wrongfully. 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: Accused, we believe scapegoat scope goat of defecating on one 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: of those girls bathroom matts. Ten years later, he wants 171 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: his name exonerated, and we're here to clear it. 172 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: In a classic pooh done it? 173 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 8: What is it? 174 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: It's a pool criminal it dwelling woodies? Who done it? Okay? 175 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: So one person who didn't live at the girl's house 176 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: but stay there the night of the infamous pup was 177 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: a man called Poss who was dating Eve. 178 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 3: Is that right, Poss? 179 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, that was me. 180 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Boys, Welcome to the investigation. Now, Posse, I'm gonna be honest. 181 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: Your name has come up a lot. Yeah, yeah, and 182 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: I and I've got to ask you. The first question 183 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I've got for you is, what's your relationship like with Paulo? 184 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Who's our who's our current scapegoat? He's currently the bloke 185 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: where the blame lies with Oh, he. 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 7: Is top five if I have to give him a number. 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: Okay. 188 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 7: He slips around in there a little bit. 189 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: Of a jovial bit of a Lad's a relationship with him, right, 190 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: you know your mate, You know you're like a bit 191 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: of a dig here and there. 192 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: Have you got any reason at that time to dislike him? 193 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: Poss Oh, look. 194 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 7: He's a bit of a grub. At that time he 195 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 7: was easy to you know, point the finger out. 196 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: Because him didn't he pause? 197 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: You found the poo on the bath mat that morning, 198 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: Eve screams, goes, what the hell we've got We've got 199 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: a live. 200 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: One in the bathroom. 201 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: You're the man of the house, and you roll your 202 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: sleeves up, you get in there, you're the one who 203 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: finds it. And then at what point did you and 204 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: why importantly did you point the finger at Paulo? 205 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 7: Well, there there was an interrogation process and Paulo happened 206 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 7: to not be there so he didn't take part, but 207 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: the other boys were interrogated and we all just formed 208 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 7: the opinion it was Paula because a few weeks earlier 209 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 7: he was guilty of urinating in a fridge. So it 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 7: was it was. 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: Surprised, but was that was the evidence there? 212 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: I haven't heard one shred of evidence yet. 213 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 7: There was convicted, Yeah, convicted that's. 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: For the way in the fridge. It was convinced it 215 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: was in it. 216 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 7: I think it might have been in the glass, so 217 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 7: it's contained, but it was in a class. 218 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: What kind of a sick are we dealing with? 219 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: But it's a pretty sort of worms. 220 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 7: You've opened a cand of worms. He made a few 221 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: segments here. 222 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that. 223 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: And we're getting messages from your friends and friends of 224 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: friends who were on campus at the time, who were 225 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: giving us more information. Somebody, there are maps and charts 226 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: that are getting drawn and sent to us. 227 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: No, I want to hear more about So you interrogated 228 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: a few of the other guys, So I'm assuming that's Ditch, 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 4: Wax and Wax. 230 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they were around the next day 231 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 7: the boy's house. 232 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: So, other than Paulo not being present for the interrogation, 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: which I appreciate, does look pretty suss, was there any 234 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: evidence to suggest that Paulo was our poor not. 235 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 3: Really in the character, evidence that he'd weed in a 236 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: glass previously? 237 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: Poss I've got another question for you. Well, I've got 238 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: two things to tell you, right. Well, I'll start with 239 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: the question. Firstly, how is there. 240 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: Any way that Paulo could have got in the house 241 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: and pooh on the mat. 242 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 7: Is it a yeah, there was no we started locking 243 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 7: the doors. 244 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: No, but before before before that, though, you're saying he 245 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: could have walked in. Is there any was there a 246 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: window in the bathroom? 247 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: Could he have crawled in? Is there a way he 248 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: could have got in there? 249 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: Because right now, right now, passive, I'm being totally honest 250 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: with you, mate, there's a lot of heat on you. 251 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: Let's let's let's just cut to the chase here, because 252 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: Prue said that. 253 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: It could have been you. You're the guy who goes 254 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: in there. 255 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: I know if I did it, I'd be in there 256 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: pointing the finger at somebody straightaway as well, which is 257 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: exactly what you did. 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: You're on the radio right now putting the blow torch 259 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: on him again. 260 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: So, and you're the only one who actually had access 261 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: to the house of the boys, the only one unless 262 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: you're going to say it's one of the girls. So 263 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: you're probably going to need to give me a reason 264 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: or away as to how he could have got in 265 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: there and actually done it. 266 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 7: Well, what I can say, leaving Paula aside, these girls there, 267 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 7: they're they're grubby. Yes, I went into the bathroom one days. 268 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: These are very beautiful girls at the top shelf, right. 269 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 7: But I went into the bathroom and next to the 270 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 7: toilet I found an a four sheet of cardboard. 271 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 4: What's this? 272 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 7: I slip it over and it's got in caup of 273 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 7: letters expert mode written on it, and it had a 274 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 7: little hole cut out of it, and it was to 275 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 7: put on top of the toilet. These girls, someone was 276 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 7: in need of training or something, because it was like 277 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 7: a practice tool for them. Hang on, I've never seen anything. 278 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: You're suggesting right now that one of the females in 279 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: the house wasn't toilet trained. 280 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 7: They could have overshot the ball. 281 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: That is, I mean, there is ab outrageous to answer 282 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: some of these. I've got Pro, who lived in the 283 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: house on the phone line as well. 284 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: Pro. 285 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: Welcome, Hello, Poppy. 286 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: You've heard all of what poss has had to say. 287 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: What what? 288 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: What? 289 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: What's it making you think about rage? 290 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: Over the past I've never once even thought for a 291 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 6: second that it was passed. And all of a sudden 292 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 6: he's come out on national radio and called the girls. 293 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: Grubb, hasn't it? 294 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 7: So? 295 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: Is it true, though, that one of someone in that 296 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: house was effectively getting toilet trained with some sort of 297 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: cardboard apparatus to help them. 298 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 6: Absolutely not. 299 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: You've got a photo poss We need to see that. 300 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 4: And sorry, I want another question for the two of 301 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: You'll go with you first post. When's the last time 302 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: you said you saw Paulo on the night. 303 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe three beers before I went home, 304 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 7: so about an hour before I fell asleep. 305 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: And where was that back at the boy's house? 306 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: So you never you never saw him in the girl's house, 307 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: You saw him at the boys. 308 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: In the world is it pro I know that you 309 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: blamed Paulo? 310 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: What world is that bloke running? How far away is 311 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: the girl's house from the Boy's house? Okay, that's quite 312 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: much closer than I thought to whiz. 313 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: All right, there's a lot of evidence that's come to 314 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: light him. But you guys are not off the hook. 315 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: Don't you dare think about leaving the country. By the 316 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: ways managed to sneak out. We've got a tracker on you. 317 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna have an escort arrive at your house within 318 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: half an hour, turning over all of your drawers, fleecing, 319 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: fleecing everything you've got these two for me, there's a 320 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: real Bonnie and Clyde operation going on here? Woulds they are? 321 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: They're sick? 322 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: I think I think even could be. 323 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: I agree. 324 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to the Pooh Done It Debrief. This 325 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: is obviously exclusive to the podcast. We'd love to put 326 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: all this stuff in the show, but truthfully, we're just 327 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: running out of space in the show. 328 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: We can't talk about the Pooh Done It for two hours. 329 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: We would, but we were very late finishing the show 330 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: because we just wanted to keep asking questions of two 331 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: more suspects who join us on this show. 332 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: I no, you just heard that Woods, you just heard those. 333 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: This is a PostScript on that chat is a much 334 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: better idea. 335 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: So now everybody's up to speed. We don't have to 336 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: get you guys up to speed on it. You're up 337 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: to speed. 338 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: You heard the chat with Prue and Pass. Let's get 339 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: down to business because there's so many questions here. Poss 340 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: as guilty as all hell for mine. 341 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: He's throwing accusations like a guilty person. Yes, few things 342 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: that we picked up on on the chat. He said 343 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: that when because he led the investigation as to who 344 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: took the Pooh on the. 345 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: Mat Originally, originally he cleared the pooh, and then he 346 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: led the investigation on it. 347 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: And the word he said was on the show today, 348 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: which I've just heard, is I ran an interrogation with 349 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: the boys. Paulo wasn't there. And the exact word and 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: he used was it was easy to pin it on Paulo? 351 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: Yes? Easy? 352 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 353 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: Who would want it to be easy to pin on 354 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: someone else? The bloody pool of themselves? 355 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 356 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: I feel like yeah, but it could have actually objectively 357 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: been easy to pin it on him. 358 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: I think pinned on him is the words. 359 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: So the evidence he had was it's been easy to 360 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: figure out that he was the guy who did it. 361 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: But the only evidence he gave us all the reasons 362 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: for pinned on Paulo were firstly, a few weeks before 363 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: he took a piss in the fridge, very different crime 364 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: for mine, if we. 365 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, I was saying what I was going to say before, 366 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: which is a in court, that evidence is called character evidence, 367 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: and it's indadmissible. 368 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,239 Speaker 3: Interesting because you can't because. 369 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Then that smears a person's name, and that that leads 370 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: the jury into thinking something about someone without actually taking 371 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: the facts of this particular case on its merits, because 372 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: they go, oh, he's the kind of person to do that. 373 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: So now that means he's the kind of person to 374 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: do this, which isn't fair. But also you can't, so 375 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: it's it's yeah, it's character evidence. 376 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: You can't lead that. 377 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: But even I mean, it's been on air now, so 378 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: everyone's heard it. 379 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: But isn't it funny what it does to your brain? Though, 380 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: it's totally because that's why they keep like, that's why 381 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: they keep jeuries. That's why you don't talk about a 382 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: case in the media because character evidence is for the 383 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: for the for the jury. 384 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: But even if you do take them on board that information, 385 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: at the very start of all of this, Paulo said 386 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: that he's not a confident poor. 387 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and ones and twos are very different. 388 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Just because you can win a fridge 389 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that you can all of a sudden, fridge 390 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 4: doesn't mean you can. He's a nervous poor. He's a 391 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: nervous poor. And it's a huge hole in Post's case. 392 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: And then the other thing that we saw posta was 393 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: then he starts saying that there's a piece of cardboard 394 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: and implying that one of the girls in that we're 395 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: still toilet training. 396 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: That that's stunk of a lie. It's absurd, said he 397 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: had a photo about it. 398 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 4: I have to see the photo, actually, Kate, did you Okay, 399 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: no one listens to us. 400 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: No one listens to us. 401 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: He l J girl asking Kate if a photo has 402 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: been sent through of that cardboard toilet training device that 403 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: Poss claims was there. Kate as then of the cardboard, yeah, 404 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: she says. Now it's dodging the other thing you brought up, Will, 405 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: which is interesting. This was more off air, I believe 406 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 4: was the lock system. 407 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think for me, we need 408 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: to you said it before. 409 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: It's the evidence around Paulo. And this is what I 410 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: was trying to ask Poss as well. And I think 411 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: this is the line of questioning that's important. We need 412 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: to rule out or we need to really Oh, hang 413 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: on a sec. 414 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: We've got a photo. This is the photo. Is it 415 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: definitely ten years old? 416 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: God, he's got them. No, he's got it. So this 417 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: is exactly what he described. 418 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: So what is the photo? 419 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: It says expert mode. It's a piece of cardboard with 420 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: a tiny hole. I think it's actually it's not a 421 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: toilet training device. 422 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: So hilarious. So they're saying, if you can piss through 423 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: the whole. 424 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, bloody and present. In the photo there is a 425 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: condom in the corner as well. This this house was 426 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: absolutely warm. 427 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: Well it's a girl's house in college. 428 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: As a condom in the corner, Oh wow, yeah, totally wild. 429 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: That's actually really funny. So there's a girl sharehouse in college. 430 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean there's sorts of gags that get around. 431 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: Isn't this a male winging gag though? Or do you 432 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 4: sit on that? 433 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: And then I think they're saying you sit on it? 434 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: So it's just stand yeah, but the girls might be 435 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: having a bit of a laugh. 436 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: I guess Possa's point though, was he said they're a 437 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 4: bit grubby in here, yes, and that would be one 438 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: piece of evidence exhibit A to suggest that, you know, 439 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: I mean, a drug like that funny as it is 440 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: a bit grubby. 441 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: So but so that that evidence is we're essentially saying 442 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: because they've got a piece of cardboard in their toilet, 443 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: which is a bit of a gag as to where 444 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: you can piss. 445 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: Mean, as you. 446 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: Said beforewards, just because you can piss through a piece 447 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: of cardboard, does that mean you can take a ship 448 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: on a mat. 449 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: It's totally different. 450 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: It feels like it's it feels like it's a quantum leap. 451 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it absolutely as well. 452 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: But I mean, yes, it means they're laddsie. Yes, it 453 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: means they have a bit of fun. 454 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: But I think we need to we need to realize that, like, yeah, 455 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: as you've pointed out before, that just the heinousness of 456 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: this crime, because that's still i mean, your urine still 457 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: going in the in the toilet. They're sure you might 458 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: get a bit of splashback, but it's different. 459 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: The condom on the floor. I mean sure, taking a 460 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: ship on a bath mat. 461 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, some thing you brought up was the locks. 462 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, so this is yeah, we were before. So 463 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: how do we rule out Paulo? How do we how 464 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: do we how do we close the case on Paulo? 465 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: Because so only so Poss, Grace, Eve, and Prue they're 466 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 4: staying in the poo house. 467 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: They're the only people, so we know they're all in. 468 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: The house that had obviously all of them could have 469 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: got to the bathroom Matt to go and take a 470 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: pool on it. Yeah, Paulo, given that he wasn't in 471 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: the house, would have need to have gained access. And 472 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: that's where you had a line of question there with 473 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: pass that poss it did his best interest basically said, no, 474 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 4: the house is open. But you seem to think these 475 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: college locking systems would be more. 476 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: Well advanced, a bit more advanced than them. 477 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: Well, I had a lot of friends who went to college, 478 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: and it was really hard to stay the night with 479 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 2: a friend at college, and the college was like regimented 480 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: on that you had to sign in and stuff if 481 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: you're going to stay there, because they don't want strangers 482 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: rocking up at college. 483 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Because the university has got a duty of care, so 484 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: often they're really really careful about who can go in 485 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: and out of college. 486 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: To keep in mind that poss was staying there, yeah, yeah, 487 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: the house is twenty meters away, by the way, we 488 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: found that out to that that was a huge moment 489 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: right at the end, where because we were like, no, 490 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: you saw Paulo two hours before you went to sleep. 491 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I was binding him here then. 492 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: And then he wheeled out the fact that the other 493 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: the boys house was only twenty meters away, so he 494 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: that So Paulo could have conceivably said to his friends Yo, I'm. 495 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: Going to go to the toilet and then run over. 496 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, run the twenty meters to the girl's house, got 497 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: in there, assuming he can get in there and then 498 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: done it. I mean, like, yeah, I thought the distance 499 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: and the timing and everything would have ruled him out. 500 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: I thought he would have needed to have you know, 501 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: time traveled doctor Pooh, Well. 502 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: We need to speak to Wax and Ditch. We need 503 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: to speak to Wax and Ditch then obviously. 504 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't spoken to Wax or Ditch, have we? 505 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: Because that the other boys in the other hair. It's 506 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: interesting that in the investigation they've all pinned it on Paulo. 507 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: But like, surely if I'm waxing Ditch, say, if you 508 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 4: and me are some of the boys at the boy's house. Yeah, 509 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 4: if I was going to do the heinous crime of 510 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: going to take a pool on someone's but the girl's bathroom, 511 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: Matt to get the most out of what I thought 512 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: was a funny prank, I would tell you I'd. 513 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: Go, oh, yeah, boy, I think I don't think. I 514 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: don't think shitting on someone's mat it's a funny prank. 515 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: And that's why I think everyone's being a bit weird 516 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: about this because at the end of the day, like 517 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: all's fair in love and war, apart. 518 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: From shitting on someone's bath mat. 519 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: But quite seriously though, like if you found out that 520 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: someone's shutting your bath mat, you know what? Like where 521 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: Jimmy Chinese burn me? Glad wrap everything in my house, 522 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: put stuff in my freezer. We used to hide eggs 523 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: in remote corners of people's rooms so they go off 524 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: and then'd be a rank smell in their room. 525 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: All of these gags. Gag, gag, gag, gag gag. Fine, 526 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: we're at college. Have a bit of a laugh. You 527 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: take a shit on my mast, you've got an issue 528 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: with me now. And I reckon that's why there's a 529 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: lot of lying. 530 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: Going on, because I reckon there's actually something, as I 531 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: said before, nefarious. There's something evil, there's something nasty between 532 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: two people here, and that's why there's. 533 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: A cover up. 534 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 4: But Will sober Woody, I agree with you. I don't 535 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: think it's funny. I think it's awful. I think it's hainous. 536 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: I think it's nefarious. Ask what ten beers deep? Obviously 537 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 4: I had those beers responsibly, but ask me that, and 538 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: potentially it's funny to again, I can't know. I'm not 539 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: ten beer Woody right now, but I. 540 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: My way to find out. We can we can pause 541 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: the recording. 542 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: But but but I've heard of stuff like this happening, 543 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 4: like and I think this is gross, But I'm going 544 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: to tell the story. 545 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: But I think they are nineteen year olds. 546 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: Nineteen year olds, I've heard stories before. 547 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: George is George chatting the matt recently, You would you, George, 548 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: would you like pulling on matts? 549 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: The realms of people's mond. 550 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 8: But we go over to over to America and like 551 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 8: one of the we had a bunch of challenges you 552 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 8: had to do, and one of them was top decking, 553 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 8: where you take the top of the toilet bit off 554 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 8: where you flush, and you do a poo there so 555 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 8: when they flush, it's just pooh that comes into the toilet. 556 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: But like discuss it's not out of it. Yeah, it's 557 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: not what it's not why you in the system when 558 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: they flushed, it. 559 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: Comes that, But like, wow, getting dared to do you know, 560 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: like like you know, the girl's house, like the wild 561 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: Girl's House. You'd be like, oh my god, yeah, go 562 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: and quickly run in and do it. 563 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: I think I think that discussion could have absolutely happened 564 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 4: and then maybe but maybe. 565 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: Out of all the boys. 566 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: So you think it could still be a gag. Okay, 567 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: so you don't think there's something nasty going on. 568 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not gonna I'm not going to round 569 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: out some sort of revenge attack on Preue given that 570 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: it was her bathroom Matt. 571 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Prue's definitely the victim here. Well necessarily, That's 572 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: what I was kind of My gauge on Prue was 573 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: she was relieved that this was getting discussed because she 574 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: she like at the time, she would have been embarrassed, 575 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it actually would have 576 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: been something that she was like, she's ever really want 577 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: to know who did. 578 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 7: That to me? 579 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: And I lost a match, she lost her favorite. 580 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: It's a weird thing to do to someone. Gag or not, 581 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: you'd want to know, I believe. 582 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: For me, I'm getting the vibe that pro it actually 583 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: actually is like gee, someone chatting my mat. You know, 584 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: I joked about the fact that she's shout in her own. 585 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: Mat, but you know she'd be. 586 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: For the truth. I don't want to know, you know 587 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: what I mean? 588 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: Absolute psychopath trouble. 589 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's shitting on your sitting on your own bath 590 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: at block her up serious problems. 591 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: We shouldn't put her on it, absolutely not. We should 592 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: direct the authorities to her house immediately. But and for you, George, 593 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: you're shitting assistant and you're sick. 594 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 7: Boy. 595 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: That's funny. Ye're sick, man, it's funny. 596 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: I think I think Monday, we need to probably I 597 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: think we probably need to get the other boys on 598 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: Wax and we need to figure out whether it was 599 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: possible for Paula to do it. 600 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't possible. 601 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Because if it's not possible Woods, if we can rule 602 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: out the fact that those boys were able to get 603 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: into those house, all of a sudden, we're down to 604 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: just the girl's houses suspects, then we're down to Eve 605 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Grace pro and and that's it. Can we rule out 606 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: the boy's house, That's what we need to do. And 607 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: I think once if we can't sure, we're still in 608 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: the open. But I think we need to try and 609 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: rule out the boy's house or just get down to 610 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: the mechanics of how the hell how Paulo got into 611 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: the girl's house. 612 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: And it's an apartment, it's not a big place. We 613 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: need to go how do you get in there? And 614 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: do it? We go to the house. 615 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: Where's the housing? We need to start doing some analytical 616 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 4: like what do they do with the crime scene? 617 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: Do you reckon? We can get in there? 618 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why not? 619 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: Can we do? 620 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: Know? 621 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: What's what's up? What's up? Miss video? 622 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: I spoke to one of them earlier and they said, 623 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: if the UNI finds out that this is them, they 624 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: will go off the chops because they didn't like them 625 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 4: when they were attending the school. 626 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: But we just. 627 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: Students. There's electricians or something. You could be like people 628 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: that want to go to the UNI. 629 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: Exactly, But well you produce around. 630 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: You want to send my daughter there or something in 631 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: we'll say you were her parents. 632 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll say this is our daughter. She's thinking a 633 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: man studying. 634 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: Can we have a tour of the villas. 635 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: And then we obviously wear body cameras or whatever so 636 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: we can get the scopes specs of the because I 637 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: need to see the distance that the boys have traveled 638 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: to the other villain. 639 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: I think we just need to get on the ground. 640 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 7: I agree. 641 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea and I'm keen for that. 642 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: But let's talk to the boys on Monday, so we 643 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: can figure out whether or not it was plausible. 644 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: If we need to do a wreki on the ground, 645 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: we can. Hell, we might even shop on a man. 646 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: But I think that's actually important because the other thing 647 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: that was keep the wheel turnings. It does get a 648 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: bit sick. But actually Poopban's brought up the point that 649 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: so poss is the one who moved the pooh, and 650 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: and poop Bans you went to the point where you said, 651 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: moving someone else's pooh is almost an impossible task, and 652 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: so that is sick. Moving your own pooh doable. 653 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: He was the man of the house though, like it is, 654 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: it is the thing to do, you know, like you'd 655 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: be like, oh and get it for your girls. 656 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: But I guess, I guess we need to ask some 657 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: of the other girls how much resistance was that, how 658 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: much struggle was that when he was moving said poo 659 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 4: or was it a walk in the park for him? 660 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: Yep, that's a great point. You also made the point 661 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: that in. 662 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: Murder mysteries, what the cops will often do is they'll 663 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: thrust photos of the victim in front of the. 664 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: Suspect to see if they get a reaction and if because. 665 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: Apparently if they did it, if they're guilty, they can't 666 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: look at their own crime. 667 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: And then you suggested that we just. 668 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: Photos of shit in front of boss to see if 669 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: we can get a reaction out of you. 670 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: That's important, I mean, that's really important. I leave it 671 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: with this, guys, we need to find him take some 672 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: photos of poo. All right, everyone, well, enjoy I mean this, 673 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't even started. 674 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm back any closer. I cannot. 675 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I cannot shake this feeling in the pit of my stomach. 676 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 2: Ech that Eve is living it up in Greece, shitting 677 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: on some poor unsuspecting Matt crimes to Europe. 678 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: Ok, she's clean, set of heels. 679 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: She worked with Poss as well. 680 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: She Eve was sick. 681 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: They're the only two people who saw the poost. Sorry, 682 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: that's just that. We can talk about this for hours. 683 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: Eve and Poss are the only two people who saw 684 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: the No proof said she's. 685 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: Human. 686 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I drop that, Okay, all right, if you've got 687 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: there's obviously a lot of theories and stuff flying around, 688 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: lots of people messaging it's already. But if you've got 689 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: anything that you think is going to help us, here 690 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Ry Woody, hit us up on the socials or email 691 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: emails Hello. 692 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: At Woody dot com. I don't think anyone's ever use that. 693 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 7: Write. 694 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: We've got a young, hip audience. 695 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: They're on the gram Mate, they're not emailing yes, and 696 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: at least doesn't even add in an email. 697 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: She knows how to use WhatsApp though. Tell you what 698 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: she sent us eight o'clock on Friday morning. Totally wild. 699 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: Al Right, see you guys. 700 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: Now you're done with that, why not check out more 701 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 4: from Will and Woody on The Full Show podcast