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Speaker 2: Kids are definitely going to wake up and that's gonna
Speaker 2: suck be ten o'clock at night.
Speaker 3: Why did you want to do it in the kitchen?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Why don't I want to do it in the kitchen?
Speaker 3: You've never ever, ever wanted to do it in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: Ever, And by do it we mean podcasting.
Speaker 3: We've never had sex in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: We've never had sex anywhere, and we have sex in
Speaker 2: the bedroom literally very safe. We've got children and we
Speaker 2: live in a small house. They could find us and
Speaker 2: see us, and that shit is traumatizing.
Speaker 3: If we were going to have sex in the kitchen,
Speaker 3: where would you have it? Oh?
Speaker 2: People eat on this table? Yeah, we'd start here and
Speaker 2: then we'd end up in the bedroom.
Speaker 3: When I say start, we'd just be like eh.
Speaker 2: Someone points at the bedroom.
Speaker 3: How about it all? Right, let's go and shuffle off
Speaker 3: to the bedroom once again.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Lifetime. Cut.
Speaker 2: It has been a hot minute. It's not really lifelung cut.
Speaker 2: You're not Britney Hockley.
Speaker 3: It's bat chunk cut.
Speaker 2: Here we are back. It's me Laura and my darling,
Speaker 2: Matthew David Johnson.
Speaker 3: Now your husband.
Speaker 2: Oh, do you know what I think every time I
Speaker 2: say your name, though, Matthew David Johnson. I think it's
Speaker 2: so weird that your mum gave you the middle name
Speaker 2: David and then had another son and named him David.
Speaker 3: She really liked the name David, but like what, like
Speaker 3: it's a.
Speaker 2: Fine name, but like, David is so nice that she
Speaker 2: named both her children David.
Speaker 3: I think it was biblical, Yeah, very biblical. Why are
Speaker 3: you attacking my mom like that? How dare you? Kelly
Speaker 3: did her best as a mother and you're pulling apart
Speaker 3: the way that she named her children.
Speaker 2: Because it is ten o'clock at night, and the reason
Speaker 2: why we're recording this so late is because Matthew's beautiful mother,
Speaker 2: who I love more than anything. She is wonderful. She
Speaker 2: has been here.
Speaker 3: She cooked a great lasagna.
Speaker 2: She's been staying in our house.
Speaker 3: You guys love a chat you guys start a chatting,
Speaker 3: So I checked out we do.
Speaker 2: Matt leaves us to talk, and then what he does
Speaker 2: is he'll just trail off and watch the TV, which
Speaker 2: means that then I'm the one who's only having the conversation.
Speaker 2: He's just not even a part of it, and it's
Speaker 2: not even in the room.
Speaker 3: Mentally, I was like, it's nine o'clock and we still
Speaker 3: haven't started recording.
Speaker 2: And this is why batch on cart is always a
Speaker 2: mad dash to the finish line.
Speaker 3: It always is, It always is it is.
Speaker 2: Can I just say and every year we say we're
Speaker 2: never going to do it again, and then every year
Speaker 2: here we are. And do you know why we say
Speaker 2: when ever going to do it again?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Because each year we say, oh, this is the year
Speaker 2: that the Bachelor is going to get canceled, and I
Speaker 2: just keep on coming back.
Speaker 3: I suggested the idea, and I in no way put
Speaker 3: any pressure on you whatsoever. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: Just one night, as we're going to bed, you were like,
Speaker 3: let's do it, and then here we are, and then I'm.
Speaker 2: That's literally how both of our children were born as well.
Speaker 3: But yes, here we are. This is on you. I
Speaker 3: didn't force this upon you. This is not my doing
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: No, no, no no. I came to the table fully, wholeheartedly
Speaker 2: and willingly. And you know what, there is so much
Speaker 2: to unpack. And on past seasons, I feel like we
Speaker 2: have been like I feel like we're equipped to talk
Speaker 2: about the Bachelor. You know, we've obviously done it, We've
Speaker 2: been on it. We know that we understand the format
Speaker 2: of the show. I feel like we, if anything, were
Speaker 2: probably the most equipped to talk about it. You know,
Speaker 2: out of people who have chosen to this season, I'm
Speaker 2: not so sure because I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: is happening here.
Speaker 3: What do you mean you think it's changed so much?
Speaker 3: You're watching it being like, I don't ever know what's happening.
Speaker 3: It's still there's usher, there's a mansion, there's roses, there's girls.
Speaker 3: It's not that different.
Speaker 2: It's completely different.
Speaker 3: It's not like it's a fight to the death and
Speaker 3: the winner gets a Bachelor.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much what it is.
Speaker 3: It's okay, why do you think it's so different?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, firstly, I'm sure this is no spoiler
Speaker 2: to anyone, But there are three bachelors. Sure one of
Speaker 2: them wasn't holding the show strong, so they needed to
Speaker 2: go for three and spread it out more evenly. So
Speaker 2: we have three new bachelors. No longer is there like
Speaker 2: the red carpet entrance, and no longer is there like
Speaker 2: the glitz and the glab.
Speaker 3: It just feels, hey, hey, hey, it's the gold Coast.
Speaker 3: It is very glamorous, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: It feels grungy and dirty, and they know that that's
Speaker 2: going to end up being taken as like a headline.
Speaker 2: I don't mean dirty, is in like sinful, a little
Speaker 2: bit sinful, But I just feel like it's a bit
Speaker 2: more massy, It's a bit grit. It doesn't have like
Speaker 2: the fairytale romance element to it anymore, which I think
Speaker 2: is what the Bachelor franchise has been built on.
Speaker 3: I did miss the red carpet arrivals. For me, that
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite parts of the entire series.
Speaker 3: So when they cut that out, I was a little
Speaker 3: bit like really.
Speaker 2: And even ashes like, I don't know what's happening here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's in the corner smoke and a cigarette.
Speaker 3: He's not even wearing a suit. Anymore. He's just there
Speaker 3: and pluggers and a pair of board shorts, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like the chicks are over there. I guess like get
Speaker 3: stuck in boys.
Speaker 2: The other thing is, we've got three episodes to unpack here,
Speaker 2: so pull up your undies and strap on in. Matt
Speaker 2: and I both have a gin choose my love? All right,
Speaker 2: Well we've got three episodes. We have three episodes to unpack,
Speaker 2: which is so much fucking TV. It is three hours
Speaker 2: and it's like almost four hours of TV. Why this
Speaker 2: is my first gripe. This is before we get into
Speaker 2: like the format changing and the men and Felix making
Speaker 2: out with every single woman. Why are they putting three
Speaker 2: episodes on a week and the episodes are going for
Speaker 2: an hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: They're fucking long episodes.
Speaker 2: Who are they doing this too? We have children.
Speaker 3: I would be happy with half an hour episodes.
Speaker 2: I have a job, like I have a life. We've
Speaker 2: all got other things that we need to do. The
Speaker 2: reason why people are going to listen to these recaps
Speaker 2: is because nobody has enough time in their life to
Speaker 2: watch that much of the Bachelor.
Speaker 3: It's because there's three of them. Now that's why it's
Speaker 3: taking so long. And there's there's like eighty girls. There's
Speaker 3: eighty girls. There's actually like a giant pit, and within
Speaker 3: that pit is like one hundred or so women who
Speaker 3: are like, how freed me?
Speaker 2: I have a theory. This was actually a film just
Speaker 2: during school is and they just hoarded a whole bit
Speaker 2: of women who were seeing in a hotel together and
Speaker 2: they're like, here, it's Survival of the Fittest. All right,
Speaker 2: Well let's start with episode number one. Now, we sat
Speaker 2: down to watch The Bachelor's and for a moment there,
Speaker 2: I was pretty confused as to whether it was actually
Speaker 2: The Bachelor that we were watching or an episode of
Speaker 2: Lux Listing.
Speaker 4: You'll be seeing a lot of this stunning seventy fourth
Speaker 4: floor penthouse.
Speaker 3: These men put each other.
Speaker 4: There's a lot to love about this place. The pull,
Speaker 4: the gym, this bag nific view.
Speaker 3: But I reckon that penthouse would sell for at least
Speaker 3: ten million dollars surely more.
Speaker 2: Oh No, I was thinking the whole building. No, I
Speaker 2: don't reckon the penthouse would be ten million, the whole building.
Speaker 3: It's Q one. Laura on the concost.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much primity costs anymore. Okay, The
Speaker 2: thing though about this, and I don't know if anyone
Speaker 2: noticed this, but there was a part of it that
Speaker 2: made me go, oh, that feels a little bit seedy
Speaker 2: and uncomfortable. So the penthouse that the guys are staying
Speaker 2: in looks directly into the mansion that the girls are
Speaker 2: living in as well, which I like that.
Speaker 3: It's great. Why because you can be like, hey, everybody,
Speaker 3: you know, you can stay in contact whilst you're not
Speaker 3: on an actual date.
Speaker 2: They don't have like a tin can and a piece
Speaker 2: of string. They've all got mobile phones and could WhatsApp
Speaker 2: each other. I think it's like really privacy intrusive. I
Speaker 2: reckon they could sit there with binoculars if they wanted
Speaker 2: to and look into the girl's backyard where the pool is,
Speaker 2: and the girls, at least I know from my season
Speaker 2: that they all kind of sunbaked, hop plus and I
Speaker 2: think that that's like kind of a bit gross.
Speaker 3: It's poor man. I think it's disgusting as well. And
Speaker 3: let's talk about Jed, who I know that people keep
Speaker 3: saying it's it's like the longest running joke, but Jed
Speaker 3: is machine gun Kelly.
Speaker 2: Oh, Like we did some forensic investigation.
Speaker 3: Today I went identical.
Speaker 2: I got stuck in the deep dark web and I
Speaker 2: was looking at photos of actual machine Gun Kelly and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is this is where the
Speaker 2: budget's gone. They literally hide machine Gun Kelly to come
Speaker 2: and do the Australian.
Speaker 3: Bachelor and he's just changed his name to Jed and
Speaker 3: thinking that no one's going to notice it is machine
Speaker 3: gun Kelly. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: If you haven't looked at this, please go and google
Speaker 2: machine Gun Kelly, same bone structure, everything, same person, drummer
Speaker 2: or maybe his younger brother.
Speaker 3: He's twenty five too young too, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I know that there's going to be people listening
Speaker 2: to this podcast who are twenty five and they're married,
Speaker 2: and they'll probably take offense to this. And I don't mean,
Speaker 2: I don't mean to say that all twenty five year
Speaker 2: olds are too young to get married.
Speaker 3: Ninety nine but no, no, I'm joking, sorry, joking, not
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent.
Speaker 2: But anyone who is twenty five and signs up to
Speaker 2: be the Bachelor's is not someone who is ready to
Speaker 2: settle down. I don't think so anyway.
Speaker 3: When twenty five year old's like, I'm going to find.
Speaker 2: The love of my life through a reality TV Reality
Speaker 2: TV is your last resort. I dated everyone in fucking
Speaker 2: Sydney before I signed up for a reality TV show.
Speaker 2: It is not your first line of contact.
Speaker 3: He's also very religious and grew up on a farm
Speaker 3: apparently as well. That's jed.
Speaker 2: He's a real oxymoron, Isn't.
Speaker 3: He very oxymorony?
Speaker 2: Is that what that means? When I have lots of
Speaker 2: things going no idea, that might be the word.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yes, if all the oxmornation on this
Speaker 3: is unbelievable, Laura.
Speaker 2: Also, if that was an insulting thing to call someone,
Speaker 2: I might look it up, because that's not what I
Speaker 2: didn't mean to call him a moron. Let's like an oxymoron.
Speaker 3: Let's just move on to Felix. All right, Well Felix,
Speaker 3: Holy shit, holy shit. I really liked him. I saw
Speaker 3: him on the project and I really liked him. He
Speaker 3: seemed like he had like a nice, nice persona going on.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about fuck boys, though, Matthew jo Yes,
Speaker 2: They're very good at fooling you until all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you're like, holy shit, why is he making up
Speaker 2: with every single woman in front of me.
Speaker 3: If I was a woman, I'd fuck him. I would.
Speaker 3: I would. I was watching him being like, he's very cute,
Speaker 3: and he's handsome, and he played sport and he's so strong,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, he would fuck me over in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: I would say, because you're so nice, You're a nice guy,
Speaker 2: Maddie Jay, I would be.
Speaker 3: In tears to you, being like, why has Felix not
Speaker 3: messaged me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why has he messaged me back? I thought I thought
Speaker 2: he liked me. I thought he was into me.
Speaker 3: He said that he wanted something really serious. That's that's
Speaker 3: how that's how good he is.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Felix, I thought. When I first saw Felix,
Speaker 2: I was like, why have they even bothered having other bachelors? Like,
Speaker 2: surely he is, you know, strong enough, he's.
Speaker 3: Of bachelor pedigree.
Speaker 2: I was like, surely he's strong enough to like carry
Speaker 2: the show on his own. But now, after watching three
Speaker 2: episodes and I'm sure we'll get into it all very
Speaker 2: very shortly, I understand why maybe he wasn't chosen to
Speaker 2: be this single only bachelor, because as much as he
Speaker 2: says that he's looking to settle down, he's never been
Speaker 2: in a relationship before, which I always find this interesting
Speaker 2: because it's like, how can you say that you're ready
Speaker 2: to settle down if you've never ever been in a
Speaker 2: relation you don't know what you're settling done to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what you're having. It's like someone saying
Speaker 3: I love skiing. I really want to just go skiing,
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, why have you been before? And
Speaker 3: I've never been, but I.
Speaker 2: Know that I'm gonna love it, and I know I'm
Speaker 2: ready to see. You're not ready to see. You've never trained,
Speaker 2: you've never tried. How would you know?
Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: At the very least, it does seem like Felix is
Speaker 2: aware of the reasons why. Maybe it's never worked out
Speaker 2: with anyone in the past.
Speaker 4: Me, it's always been a hook up culture. The first
Speaker 4: and foremost thing I look for is physical attractiveness, and
Speaker 4: that's what I've been looking for my whole life. And
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm twenty seven. I've never been in
Speaker 4: a proper relationship. Have I been looking for the wrong thing?
Speaker 4: I guess some I'm about to find out, Okay.
Speaker 3: And then we have Thomas, who very different to the
Speaker 3: other two bachelors. He's thirty five. He's one of the
Speaker 3: oldest or the oldest bachelor we've ever had.
Speaker 2: They speak about him later on in the episodes as
Speaker 2: though he's a geriatric like the guy's thirty five. They're like,
Speaker 2: you are the oldest of all the bachelor's. Look at
Speaker 2: your gray hair.
Speaker 3: A set of stairs and they're like, are you okay
Speaker 3: to walk up these? Thomas? Are you sure?
Speaker 2: Although, to be fair, it's a ten year demographic between
Speaker 2: Jed and Thomas, and I guess maybe they're trying to
Speaker 2: appeal to a really wide audience by having these three different,
Speaker 2: diverse characters. But the thing that I found, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: to be fair, I really like Thomas. I think he
Speaker 2: seems genuine. I hate that one, but he seems authentic.
Speaker 2: He seems like, wait for it, he's there for the
Speaker 2: right reason.
Speaker 3: Ah, shut up, I.
Speaker 2: Hate my just vomiting my own mouth that I said
Speaker 2: that literally, But okay.
Speaker 3: The thing about he's so quintessentially Eastern suburb Sydney. The
Speaker 3: thing about Thomas is that he's found himself. He's found
Speaker 3: this enlightenment and he really loves Bondai a little too much.
Speaker 3: While I have Italian heritage, this is the place I
Speaker 3: call home, and this is the place I want to
Speaker 3: spend the rest of my life with. I spend the
Speaker 3: rest of my life with.
Speaker 2: So at this point, now that we know our bachelors
Speaker 2: and we've been introduced to who they are in a
Speaker 2: very top line way, we get to know a little
Speaker 2: bit more about how the actual mechanics of this season
Speaker 2: are going to work. And like the fact that like
Speaker 2: the formatting. And that's one thing about this that I
Speaker 2: will give it credit to. So many people for the
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons of Batch have really pushed against
Speaker 2: the formatting and said, you know, it's too formulaic. You know,
Speaker 2: there's no surprises anymore. Everybody is just cut and copy
Speaker 2: and this complete repeat of season after season. And I
Speaker 2: do feel like the producers have listened and they have
Speaker 2: tried to provide something very very different in terms of
Speaker 2: the formatting. Now, one of the differences is the fact
Speaker 2: that the three bachelors, after we've been introduced to who
Speaker 2: they are, they're standing there and Osha comes out, and
Speaker 2: it comes as a surprise to even them that at
Speaker 2: the end of this experiment they're going to have to
Speaker 2: propose to someone. Imagine, imagine, signing up for The Bachelor,
Speaker 2: being the Bachelor, and then on the show being like, well,
Speaker 2: you're really in for it. Now you've better fucking propose
Speaker 2: to someone.
Speaker 3: No, but I don't think I agree with the first
Speaker 3: part of your statement and that they have really tried
Speaker 3: to mix things up. But then when they talk about
Speaker 3: the proposals, it's still a question of if you feel ready,
Speaker 3: you will propose? Is it not? Well are they saying
Speaker 3: like Osha will be there gun to your head, being like,
Speaker 3: get on your fucking knees.
Speaker 2: Now you know what you signed up for. We need
Speaker 2: the ratings.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, please fucking do it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, when you with the Bachelor, did they not
Speaker 2: strongly suggest okay, never, No, No, it was, But did
Speaker 2: they strongly suggest that you should propose? Or is it
Speaker 2: always just an option?
Speaker 3: It was always like it's entirely up to you.
Speaker 2: So then therefore it feels different this time because it's yes,
Speaker 2: it is up to them, but it's been strongly suggested
Speaker 2: that if they feel strong enough of the person that
Speaker 2: they should propose.
Speaker 3: So do you think they're trying to like America where
Speaker 3: in their seasons of Bachelor it's always a proposal. Do
Speaker 3: you think that's what they're trying to do now one percent.
Speaker 2: And I also think that they're sexying it up in
Speaker 2: the same way that you know, the American Bachelor, you
Speaker 2: can have sex on the Bachelor. The American Bachelor you
Speaker 2: get overnight stays. I think that they're trying to like,
Speaker 2: you know, dirty it up a little.
Speaker 3: Biteah, because American Bachelor's been around for like one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty years, so they're like, whatever they're doing, we
Speaker 3: want in.
Speaker 2: Although when you think about it, not that I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure the American Bachelor actually makes for better TV,
Speaker 2: but the success rate of the couples is very low
Speaker 2: in comparison to the Australian Bachelor.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Maybe they are making it more like
Speaker 3: the American Bachelor because it's been around for one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty years.
Speaker 2: Dirtier six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've had way too much gin. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: speed dating.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, this is the other big difference is that
Speaker 2: instead of everybody arriving on the red carpet and having
Speaker 2: a little one or one time giggitddy giggddy, instead the
Speaker 2: guys are going out and doing shall help you are
Speaker 2: going out and doing speed dating, and they're given ten
Speaker 2: slightly dead roses.
Speaker 3: If the roses are different, aren't they.
Speaker 2: The roses were dying okay because them had been out
Speaker 2: of water for too long.
Speaker 3: When we used to get the roses on site, there
Speaker 3: was like a special van that would come. They had
Speaker 3: like a refrigerated unit within the vans. The roses were
Speaker 3: like the crem Dela creme of the rose industry, whereas
Speaker 3: these ones are like picked up from the fucking BP
Speaker 3: down the roads.
Speaker 2: These are Gold Coast roses.
Speaker 3: They're hod for the record, big fan of the Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Lovely people there.
Speaker 2: Matt is kind of from the he's from Brisbane.
Speaker 3: Can't have a rose. If you look at a roses,
Speaker 3: do not get the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: What I meant by a Gold Coast rose is that
Speaker 2: it's very fucking hot in the Gold Coast. So the
Speaker 2: roses don't stay perfectly like roses. They're like a bit.
Speaker 3: Wilty, very wilder.
Speaker 2: They're just so wilted. Anyway, So the boys are running around.
Speaker 2: These three bachelors are running around Australia with ten roses each,
Speaker 2: and it is the most brutal speed dating I think
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. So you don't agree with me, Matt.
Speaker 2: There was many different dates. Basically the guys had to
Speaker 2: go and have these like short interactions with the women,
Speaker 2: twenty minute little interaction dates, and at the end of
Speaker 2: it they had to either give them a rose or
Speaker 2: say hey, you know, I wasn't really feeling it. I
Speaker 2: think the men handled the Hi, I sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: have the connection. And then they walked off into the
Speaker 2: sunset particularly fucking badly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was like they didn't get briefed, probably by producers,
Speaker 3: like if you don't like someone, you can just say,
Speaker 3: thank you so much, I had a great time, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry, this won't go any further. We shure the
Speaker 3: best goodbye.
Speaker 2: Jit just gets up and walks away, mostly.
Speaker 3: Literally, like mid sentence, he's like, all right, fucking see
Speaker 3: your like just starts storming off with his drumsticks in hand,
Speaker 3: and the chicks are like looking at the camera, and
Speaker 3: then then one girl even says, is that is that
Speaker 3: it to the producer off camera, and it was.
Speaker 2: It was wild and I think the thing that's made
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation and I've seen it. I saw
Speaker 2: it in the Facebook group, I saw it on and
Speaker 2: across social media. The very first speed date was with
Speaker 2: a woman and Caitlin, blonde, beautiful, gorgeous woman. She was
Speaker 2: a psychologist and Jed and now Jed tried to give
Speaker 2: her a rose because after twenty minutes he was like,
Speaker 2: you are the perfect package or everything I've ever been
Speaker 2: looking for, and she, incredibly politely, very well spoken, said,
Speaker 2: do you know what, I'm actually not feeling this. I
Speaker 2: don't think you're the right person for me.
Speaker 3: Hey, and Jed took it really really well, very mature
Speaker 3: at twenty five. I wasn't sure how he would handle it,
Speaker 3: but well done to Jed.
Speaker 5: Will you accept this rose?
Speaker 1: So it has been lovely to get to know you,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately I'm not going to accept this rose.
Speaker 2: I'd love to say friends and stay in contact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, well it was lovely, madden't you.
Speaker 5: Cheers?
Speaker 3: Please don't hate me.
Speaker 4: Don't think I'm more.
Speaker 3: What a bash to the eg?
Speaker 4: Do you know what better to know?
Speaker 1: No, Jed, tell me what happens.
Speaker 4: It was brutal, absolutely brutal.
Speaker 1: I just thought I was the one making those decisions,
Speaker 1: but apparently not onto the next one.
Speaker 2: I guess me, this is outrageous to me. You cannot
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, just because you're the bachelor does not mean
Speaker 2: that all women will want to be with you.
Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
Speaker 2: It absolutely fucking does not.
Speaker 3: It casts a spell over them and they can't refuse you.
Speaker 2: But also, like, how childish to react in such a
Speaker 2: petulant way.
Speaker 3: Because Jed is twelve and a half. They've gotten a
Speaker 3: bachelor who's not even hit puberty.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the problem with this is then this then
Speaker 2: goes on to affect Jed on every single date he
Speaker 2: has after that, because for the next fifty four women
Speaker 2: that Jed goes on a date with, he can't get
Speaker 2: over the fact that he's been his small, fragile male
Speaker 2: ego has been bruised, and he just then he rejects
Speaker 2: people in a really brutal way because of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a girl sneezes and he's like, you're out next.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Crystal for a second. I like her
Speaker 3: a lot. I love Crystal, plenty of time for Crystal.
Speaker 3: She was on a date with Felix.
Speaker 2: She was like, she came in hot and ready and heavy.
Speaker 2: But I really like and like as each episode has
Speaker 2: kind of evolved the last three episodes. I like how
Speaker 2: assertive she is, but She also is like very witty
Speaker 2: and very funny.
Speaker 3: I think she's English people are so good.
Speaker 2: Do you know why they're so good? Why because it
Speaker 2: rains so much that they can't just rely on their
Speaker 2: good looks. They have to have good chat.
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. And Australia literally like if you want to
Speaker 3: be anything in life, it's like get abs, get a tan.
Speaker 2: You can just be hot. If you live in Bondai,
Speaker 2: you can just be hot. You don't have to be
Speaker 2: funny because you can just walk down Bondai beach and
Speaker 2: people like, oh look another hot person.
Speaker 3: But in the UK you're in jeans, boots, jacket, beanie.
Speaker 3: The hotness can never get out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never. No one knows.
Speaker 3: I have to have a personality, and I know I
Speaker 3: know that on EP one they're always going to throw
Speaker 3: in what looks like a really amazing connection. But her
Speaker 3: and Felix are getting along for twenty minutes. I'm like,
Speaker 3: holy shit, okay this these guys have got great chemistry.
Speaker 2: This is my only question, right, and like I'm all
Speaker 2: for again.
Speaker 3: This is your only question. No more after this, And.
Speaker 2: I've asked a lot of questions. These speed dates are
Speaker 2: only twenty minutes. That's twenty minutes, so cameras on twenty
Speaker 2: minutes of spending time with each other. Things progressed on
Speaker 2: a lot of these dates, very very quickly. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine myself ever with no alcohol, with middle of the
Speaker 2: day twenty minutes no alcohol.
Speaker 3: It could have been morning, it could have been like
Speaker 3: eight thirty am.
Speaker 2: Probably was going on like a coffee date with a
Speaker 2: guy and then having him eat my face twenty minutes afterwards. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed by how quickly they have managed to
Speaker 2: get to having a connection, Like I really, I don't
Speaker 2: know whether this is like a produce thing, whether they
Speaker 2: were encouraged like hey, if this goes well, kissed them
Speaker 2: at the end of it, But like there seemed to
Speaker 2: be so much physical attraction that was happening so early on,
Speaker 2: especially for twenty minute, which is why twenty minutes is
Speaker 2: like a coffee date. It's a walking date.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but most of my dates
Speaker 3: back in the day Laura would have ended after twenty
Speaker 3: minutes with me and my undies rubbing my bake. God,
Speaker 3: do you have one gin and you turn into this animal?
Speaker 3: But yeah, Crystal, will she win?
Speaker 2: I don't think So what did your twenty one dates
Speaker 2: end up in. I we need to know what aut like.
Speaker 3: I never, I think literally would shake their hand and
Speaker 3: be like, thank you very much. I yeah, pleasure to
Speaker 3: meet you. I may give them a hug. I probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't even kiss on the first date. Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: You're also old school bachelor. You're not a you know,
Speaker 2: a Jed Fields.
Speaker 3: Hey, Felix von Half I think that's his name. Will
Speaker 3: he Will he end up with Crystal? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Will she make it to the end? Yes, not only
Speaker 3: does she have great chemistry, but she is like the
Speaker 3: number one narrator for the season. She's it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what? We didn't do what? We didn't
Speaker 2: pick our winners because we've just we haven't placed our
Speaker 2: bets yet.
Speaker 3: We've talked about two girls so far. We've got so
Speaker 3: many speed Days to go through.
Speaker 2: To be honest, there were so many girls, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: at this point in time I was watching the episodes,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: No idea that there was an Anna.
Speaker 2: There was cheese, there was some tantry moves. There was
Speaker 2: a part day. Yeah, body painting. Oh, there was the
Speaker 2: life drawing classes. There was a lot of things. Wait,
Speaker 2: there was this one which I thought was quite special.
Speaker 3: So beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't feel so zen, I feel so great.
Speaker 2: And you're beautiful. You really are going on from that
Speaker 2: very Unfortunately she didn't get a rose, but you know,
Speaker 2: they had a special moment. She was the one who
Speaker 2: was confused.
Speaker 3: For a split second, I thought, this is it. Thomas
Speaker 3: will marry this woman. It didn't make any sense. He's
Speaker 3: very confused.
Speaker 2: They didn't meditate their way through BONDI literally literally I
Speaker 2: would walk past them definitely in the morning at Bondo
Speaker 2: Beach doing like a silent retreat on the sand. So
Speaker 2: they're doing some sort of whim Hoff freathing techniques and
Speaker 2: then an ice bath after. Do you feel a personally
Speaker 2: victimized by that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did my first I spar session last week.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm turning into Thomas and.
Speaker 2: I love and found myself in Bunde.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about Tilly for a quick second, for
Speaker 3: a hot minute, like not even that thirty seconds she
Speaker 3: went on the date with Felix. She was doing the
Speaker 3: cricket date.
Speaker 2: I do like Tilly. She is a hot minute.
Speaker 3: She's beautiful, beautiful again.
Speaker 2: She has abs on her forehead, there's so many apps.
Speaker 3: Some people would look weird with abs on their forehead,
Speaker 3: not till she looks fantastic.
Speaker 2: Tilly with the abs on her forehead.
Speaker 3: Very very nice, great makeout session as well with Felix.
Speaker 3: Felix is getting stuck.
Speaker 2: You're right there.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Look, I'm just really enjoying watching Felix do his thing.
Speaker 2: Well, something that I thought was pretty notable to bring up.
Speaker 2: And I think that this is completely overproduced. Tell me
Speaker 2: if you think that I'm I disagree if I'm being
Speaker 2: too much of it was beautiful and negative, Nancy, it
Speaker 2: was beautiful. So the very last date is Felix on
Speaker 2: a date. The girl named Abigail who brings her pussy
Speaker 2: to her date. She brings her kitty cat in her backpack.
Speaker 2: She is a self proclaimed crazy cat lady. I have
Speaker 2: lady a fucking time because I am lady in a cat.
Speaker 2: You can't get much more crazy cat.
Speaker 3: She rocked up with this little scooter thing and she
Speaker 3: had twelve cats with her. She had twelve. The whole
Speaker 3: time was she's.
Speaker 2: Like she had one of them was jumping out of
Speaker 2: her hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Literally, she was just like trying to like retain
Speaker 3: the cats on the day and then.
Speaker 2: It's like that woman on the Simpsons. She opens the
Speaker 2: door on the cats fall out onto the street. One
Speaker 2: is like in a cleavage.
Speaker 3: She was throwing cats at Felix. She wouldn't kiss Felix
Speaker 3: until he started kissing the cats.
Speaker 2: No, she wouldn't. She wouldn't kiss Felix until he started
Speaker 2: to me out and lick her like a cat. Okay,
Speaker 2: this has got anyway, lots of cats. Her name is Abigail.
Speaker 3: Put the record, there was one cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cat's name was Minnie or Mimi. I
Speaker 2: heard the name so many times I remembered the cat's
Speaker 2: name more than I remembered half the girl's names on
Speaker 2: the speed dates. Okay, but the thing that I think
Speaker 2: has contrived is Felix went on this speed date with Abigail,
Speaker 2: who's super lovely, and he wants to give her a rose,
Speaker 2: but he's got no roses left, no more dunt dunda.
Speaker 2: But Jed has a rose. And then there's this contrived drama,
Speaker 2: some suspense that's been created where Felix has to call
Speaker 2: Jed and Jed is like, oh yeah, man, I'll give
Speaker 2: you my.
Speaker 3: You're the kind of person that watches an action flick
Speaker 3: and they're like, no way it all he'd be able
Speaker 3: to survive if he fell off that.
Speaker 2: It was so to me, it was like an unnecessary
Speaker 2: fake Jeopardy.
Speaker 3: Just enjoy it for what it is, fake jeopardy. Just
Speaker 3: enjoy the twelve cats flying across the screen. It was
Speaker 3: it was beautiful. Okay, look all at all. There were
Speaker 3: thirty girls I got roses, and I think it's fair
Speaker 3: to say the ones that didn't get a rose took
Speaker 3: it really well. He seemed like a bit of a
Speaker 3: dick anyway.
Speaker 4: And to be honest, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we're coming to the end of episode one, Thank
Speaker 2: the Lord. So episode one finishes at the cocktail party. However,
Speaker 2: it's not a cocktail party anymore, Matthew.
Speaker 3: But it is a cocktail party.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a house party. It's a dingy house party.
Speaker 2: Now it's a Gold Coast house.
Speaker 3: Party's like, hey, there's no fairy lights you can see
Speaker 3: anywhere around here.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, why is Osha shitting on the old Bachelor
Speaker 2: so hard? Like he's like, there's no fake candles, no
Speaker 2: fairy lights, no fake flowers. Yeah, it wasn't the fairy lights.
Speaker 2: All the fake flowers, all the candles that were the
Speaker 2: fucking problem, and.
Speaker 3: Also a couple of fairy lights wouldn't hurt anybody.
Speaker 2: What is the face? The face it kind of like
Speaker 2: reminds me of like a big Brother thing, the face
Speaker 2: on the outside of the building that they keep flashing
Speaker 2: to every so often.
Speaker 3: For anyone who hasn't seen the show so far, the
Speaker 3: Batch mansion is this like white building and it has
Speaker 3: this face where it's just like the outline of like
Speaker 3: the like is it a Picasso.
Speaker 2: It's an abstract artwork of a face and.
Speaker 3: It personally I like it. I think it's a nice touch.
Speaker 2: That's why you aren't in control of anything that has
Speaker 2: to do with interiors.
Speaker 3: And however, the girl who studied fine arts is like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that is what is that?
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't understand why it's used as
Speaker 2: like the reset. Every time it goes to ad break,
Speaker 2: it's like dim dim and it goes to that base.
Speaker 3: It's like the big Brother.
Speaker 2: I yes, it's the Big Brother. I do you know what?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's trying to I feel like this season is
Speaker 2: trying to be a cross between like Love Island, The Bachelor,
Speaker 2: Maths and a bit of Big Brother.
Speaker 3: It is a bit of Badge in Paradise, I find
Speaker 3: no let's talk about the cocktail party.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So this episode ends with not a
Speaker 2: cocktail party, it's a house party. And the thing that
Speaker 2: happens that's like everyone's like, oh my god, no shock
Speaker 2: ha ha ha. And it goes on for about ten
Speaker 2: minutes too long. Is that all the girls find out
Speaker 2: that there's not one, but there's actually three bachelors, and
Speaker 2: it's truly shocking for them. They can't believe that that's
Speaker 2: the case. I don't know what I would do if
Speaker 2: I found out that there were three batters, Like if
Speaker 2: I was in the house going back to our season
Speaker 2: and I found out that there're was three, you'd be
Speaker 2: You'd just be sussing them out right. You'd be like, okay,
Speaker 2: well did I get the best one? You'd be like, fuck,
Speaker 2: how did I get that one?
Speaker 3: Well? I do feel like everybody would look to Felix
Speaker 3: as being Numero uno.
Speaker 2: Yeah, except for the way that he behaves on the
Speaker 2: next episode, which will get to very shortly. Maybe now,
Speaker 2: I was like, are we where are we going? Maybe
Speaker 2: to an ad break? Take this time to go to
Speaker 2: the toilet, get a refreshment, and we'll be back around
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about episode two. Cocktail party. But it's not
Speaker 3: a cocktail party. It's a house party thing.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you finally agree with me. It's not a
Speaker 2: cocktail party. It's a house but it is.
Speaker 3: A cocktail party.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's a school's house party. There's no roses.
Speaker 2: Once again, there's no candles. There's no twinkles, no champagne. No,
Speaker 2: they looked like they were drinking.
Speaker 3: They were champagne.
Speaker 2: Sorry, they actually looked like they were drinking margaritas. And
Speaker 2: that's a cocktail party. I can get behind spicy marks anyone. Hello.
Speaker 2: Do you know who did look like that had a
Speaker 2: few spicy marks? Tash when she walked in and just
Speaker 2: passed jed in front of everyone.
Speaker 3: That was aggressive, Wasn't it?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Okay? There was a lot of passion that went on
Speaker 2: at this cocktail party. Some of it we feel more
Speaker 2: strongly about than others.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever been a make out session
Speaker 3: in full view of everyone.
Speaker 2: Yes, there has as there. Yes, do you remember when
Speaker 2: a Laura tried to kiss you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, but it didn't actually happen.
Speaker 2: Should be fine about that again now.
Speaker 3: Like, okay, stop record. Laura's had twelve gins.
Speaker 2: So she's going to try and fight me about something
Speaker 2: that I don't care about anymore.
Speaker 3: But I don't think anyone. I don't think there's always
Speaker 3: been attempts at kisses a cocktail parties, but I don't
Speaker 3: think there's actually been like a full on mayke out session,
Speaker 3: do you know? In full view? I agree, I agree,
Speaker 3: I agree, agree, I agree with me, thank you.
Speaker 2: I feel no, No, I think it was did matt
Speaker 2: Ig knew somebody? Somebody? No, it was Lucky someone did
Speaker 2: it and we were like, oh, the dirty pash rat,
Speaker 2: like someone has done it before. There has always been
Speaker 2: an unspoken rule. No one cares about the rules anymore,
Speaker 2: of course, but look, we are old school. We cared
Speaker 2: about them at the time because we had to stick
Speaker 2: by them. And the rules were that you don't make
Speaker 2: out with someone in front of the other girls, if
Speaker 2: you don't make out with your bachelor or bachelorette in
Speaker 2: front of the other people, because obviously you.
Speaker 3: Know that people are hooking up. It needs to be
Speaker 3: out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 2: And the reason for that is because it's kind of.
Speaker 2: It's not so much the fact that you're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, they actually really are making out with someone.
Speaker 2: Oh it hurts my feelings. It's not about not seeing it.
Speaker 2: It's the act of feeling like somebody is manipulating you
Speaker 2: in a way. So like, let me describe this properly,
Speaker 2: but it's like if you see somebody at a cocktail
Speaker 2: party make out with the bachelor, it's a real manipulation
Speaker 2: tool for them to be like, I have got this
Speaker 2: in the bag. It's like them pissing on their turf
Speaker 2: to say, ow, I own this, and it makes everybody
Speaker 2: else feel inferior about their connection. So it's a real
Speaker 2: way of just like marking your territory and owning it,
Speaker 2: which you know, some people might look at that and
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, independent, strong person going after what they want,
Speaker 2: and other people might look at it as being like,
Speaker 2: that's pretty disrespectful, speakful to the other people who were
Speaker 2: also feeling like they have strong connections and have also
Speaker 2: kissed the guy who whatever. I don't you know, we
Speaker 2: can all have our own opinions on how this plays out.
Speaker 2: But Tash was pretty forward. She walked up, she kissed
Speaker 2: jed he seemed a bit taken.
Speaker 3: Aback head is quick. Yeah, to be honest, I didn't
Speaker 3: even see it.
Speaker 2: I was I looked at your phone, I looked.
Speaker 3: Away for a second, look back, and you're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Tash and Jed have just made out.
Speaker 2: But that didn't seem to have a lot of backlash.
Speaker 2: The one that did have the most backlash the one
Speaker 2: that has been causing Oh, at a stir of god,
Speaker 2: let's talk about Felix.
Speaker 3: Ah, Felix for a moment there. Episode one. I was
Speaker 3: really into you, and then.
Speaker 2: They did the old bait and switch. Although I do
Speaker 2: feel that to do a bait and switch by episode two,
Speaker 2: it's a bit early in the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really did. He didn't want any quickly, didn't he.
Speaker 2: Is he showing his through colors or has he gotten
Speaker 2: a bad edit?
Speaker 3: I think he's just gotten carried away. I think because
Speaker 3: it is it is easy on you know. It's just like,
Speaker 3: this is a few days into filming. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: he's surrounded by ten beautiful women, and he's like, do
Speaker 3: you know what I'm going to get fucking stuck in?
Speaker 3: And he's like, and he's and he's got the mentality
Speaker 3: of I'm Stacky English, but it just was so bogus.
Speaker 3: I've been watching to get Stacky, that's the thing. And
Speaker 3: he kind of has this mentality of like I deserve this.
Speaker 3: I'm now I've gotten to the position of being the bachelor.
Speaker 3: It's my inherent right to now get stuck into the girls.
Speaker 2: He is like a kid in a candy store.
Speaker 3: Literally is there. We cut back to Felix and he's
Speaker 3: there with his cock out and he's massive. He's masturbating
Speaker 3: furiously in the corner in the pool is illegal, and
Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh my god, Felix, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 3: the bachelor, let me have my moment. And it's it's confronting,
Speaker 3: it really is.
Speaker 2: And then he got arrested and the season was finished. No, Okay,
Speaker 2: what he did do is he was the one that
Speaker 2: was instigating the kissing and it was obviously just with Tilly,
Speaker 2: and it was in front of all of the girls.
Speaker 2: Like he was he did not care how anybody felt.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, but how can you anyone with
Speaker 3: any kind of emotional intelligence would know that doing that
Speaker 3: is going to absolutely rattle everybody else.
Speaker 2: I can piss everyone, Like if that was me and
Speaker 2: I was in that house and I had been match
Speaker 2: with Felix, and I know that there was one girl
Speaker 2: who did leave, but you know, like she left and
Speaker 2: she said, I've just come out of a relationship. I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm emotionally in the right place to
Speaker 2: deal with this. The thing is the woman who left,
Speaker 2: her name was Ella. She said she didn't feel like
Speaker 2: she was emotionally ready for this. I reckon, she is
Speaker 2: the emotional MVP of this whole thing. Like she left
Speaker 2: because she was like, hey, this seems like a bit
Speaker 2: of mind fuckery is going on. And Felix, the little
Speaker 2: dirty dribble over there in the corner, dribbling all over
Speaker 2: Tilly isn't really someone I want to get myself involved with.
Speaker 2: And so she left.
Speaker 3: He is such a dirty dribbler.
Speaker 2: Basketball to get the pun dirty dribble, Felix the dirty dribbler.
Speaker 2: So Felix dribbled all over Tilly and.
Speaker 3: Then twice locations.
Speaker 2: Tilly went inside and then they relocated to another area.
Speaker 2: She dirty.
Speaker 3: She was like, all right, I'm going to leave you
Speaker 3: you can talk to other women. And he was like ah,
Speaker 3: and like hunted her down, like another corner of the
Speaker 3: Batch Mansion.
Speaker 2: To be fair, the second time she looked like she
Speaker 2: was more into it than the first. The first time
Speaker 2: she actually looked like she had a grimace on.
Speaker 3: A blanket, and they just covered their faces as if like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's kind of no.
Speaker 2: It's like when Marley or Lola they want to play
Speaker 2: hard and seek and they just pull the blanket over
Speaker 2: their heads, like no one could see me. Mummy, where
Speaker 2: did I go? That's literally what Tilly? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it was a bit of a disaster. And look, I
Speaker 2: think unfortunately from this this is kind of really set
Speaker 2: a precedent with the girls as much as a lot
Speaker 2: of the girls are still wanting time and they're still
Speaker 2: wanting to kind of be in Felix's orbit. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of them are now looking at him and
Speaker 2: going like I do I like, do I want to
Speaker 2: be chosen by a guy who doesn't seem to care
Speaker 2: about my feelings at all?
Speaker 3: But also also it's up to Felix.
Speaker 2: Things can change.
Speaker 3: Felix is getting a little excited. But let's let's not
Speaker 3: rule them out entirely just now. We've got a long
Speaker 3: way to go to the end.
Speaker 2: Now. To be fair, so many people at this point
Speaker 2: in time, may claim editing, may claim Frank combining, like,
Speaker 2: there's lots of different ways that somebody can be cast
Speaker 2: to be a bit of a villain. But in saying
Speaker 2: that and assuming that the edit is not trying to
Speaker 2: fuck Felix, like assuming that, you know, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if the Bachelor would intentionally try and like frame
Speaker 2: one of their main characters.
Speaker 3: I think, like, I don't know, I might sacrifice. There's
Speaker 3: three of them, so they're like, hey, we could, we
Speaker 3: can make everyone turn on one of you because we've
Speaker 3: got two others.
Speaker 2: Because this is something they've never done before. I feel
Speaker 2: like in the past they've always protected their bachelor's or
Speaker 2: bachelorettes and kind of like, you know, they will always
Speaker 2: get the hero edit because they are the main character.
Speaker 2: But I guess with having three people, I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to give benefit of the dart. I'm trying to play
Speaker 2: Tevil's advocate here. Maybe Felix is kind of getting a
Speaker 2: bit of a dud edit because it works to have
Speaker 2: this dynamic between the three different bachelors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we've always had a villain, but it's always
Speaker 3: been a woman, and all of a sudden, now we've
Speaker 3: got potentially a villain who's going to be one of
Speaker 3: the leads.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, look I mean editing aside, he's
Speaker 2: certainly not doing himself any favors.
Speaker 3: In this process.
Speaker 4: If I've got a connection with someone, I'm going to
Speaker 4: kiss them.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold myself back at risk of
Speaker 3: offending someone else.
Speaker 4: If they're insecure with that, then it's off putting to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this whole thing is so much easier at three am
Speaker 4: at a nightclub.
Speaker 3: I don't regret kissing silly. I regret getting caught kissing silly.
Speaker 4: So I got carried away.
Speaker 3: Not a bad way would get carried away again.
Speaker 2: Yes, there is so much going on at this point,
Speaker 2: and now we've only covered Felix and he's like kissing
Speaker 2: little makeout sessions, but there was more. How much do
Speaker 2: you love that noise?
Speaker 3: I hate it so much.
Speaker 2: I do it to Matt all the time whenever, like
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, honey, you give me a kiss, and
Speaker 2: then I'll like make that noise at him.
Speaker 3: And it's now made its o into the podcast and.
Speaker 2: It repulses him so much that he's just like he
Speaker 2: dries up like the Sahara can you be wet then
Speaker 2: to start with them?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, just keep going, like, let's just let's
Speaker 3: just steamroll through this.
Speaker 2: You dry out like the Sahara. Do shrivel? Do you
Speaker 2: shrivel up like a little reason.
Speaker 3: Having fun over there. You're so proud of your jokes.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a kiss that we forgot to mention.
Speaker 3: Is this There's just so.
Speaker 2: Many that were going on. But Jed Jed Jed had
Speaker 2: another little pash, not the pash with tash, the tash
Speaker 2: pash he pashed and girl he passed another.
Speaker 3: Girl, Alicia, yes Elsa Eliza.
Speaker 2: Alicia Alicia, who was the ice skating girl. So he
Speaker 2: pashed her out in the front lawn and the garden.
Speaker 2: No one saw, which I know, like, it's weird. It's
Speaker 2: weird that it's okay to pash someone if no one
Speaker 2: sees it. But it seems to be a bit better.
Speaker 3: I was a little outrage at all the kissing going on,
Speaker 3: But now I'm also looking at Thomas and being like,
Speaker 3: come on, mate, hurry.
Speaker 2: Up, lift your game.
Speaker 3: What are you waiting for?
Speaker 2: Nice? No one likes a nice guy. Thomas picked last.
Speaker 2: I bet you Thomas is the one that doesn't end
Speaker 2: up getting proposed the proposing anyone.
Speaker 3: Oh bless his cotton.
Speaker 2: So bet you are Felix and Jed and they're going
Speaker 2: to end up breaking up within three months as soon
Speaker 2: as the contract ends. That's a joke. There is no contract. Okay,
Speaker 2: you are okay. So the house party ends, they go
Speaker 2: on a group date.
Speaker 3: Think about the group date, is that only those who
Speaker 3: go on a group date are able to be eliminated.
Speaker 2: They are, And I guess that that's one of the
Speaker 2: other double edged sword. I kind of like that though.
Speaker 2: I think that if you go on a group date,
Speaker 2: and it's like it makes sense that you should be
Speaker 2: up for elimination because that's the people who have had
Speaker 2: the most time with the bachelor's I don't I don't
Speaker 2: dislike that change the format, but I do agree with you, Matt.
Speaker 2: When you kind of think about it, it was like, you.
Speaker 3: Know that was so formal. Well, yes, I do agree
Speaker 3: with you, Matt.
Speaker 2: Well you're not fucking wrong. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you. They have a group date.
Speaker 2: The thing that has gotten everybody riled up about this
Speaker 2: group date, the reason why Felix has become the dirty
Speaker 2: dribbler and the public enemy number one is because he
Speaker 2: got all his girls together. He apologized for kissing Tilly
Speaker 2: in front of them. However, he woke up the next
Speaker 2: day and realize that, you know what, making out with
Speaker 2: people and completely disregarding everybody else's feelings in the interim
Speaker 2: whilst you're trying to find the one is probably not
Speaker 2: a smart way of going about looking for your future wife,
Speaker 2: because all that's going to do is kiss everybody off,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna end up having people walk out. So
Speaker 2: he gets everyone together at the pool, he apologizes, He says,
Speaker 2: you know, he acknowledges he got a little bit carried away.
Speaker 2: He's growing, he's acknowledging he did wrong.
Speaker 3: This is great, he's learning. Yeah, good on him. Until
Speaker 3: hang on a second, Felix, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Is that, Naomi, that you've got your tongue down?
Speaker 3: Literally sees one girl in a bikini and he can't
Speaker 3: help himself.
Speaker 2: He's just he's so shallow. I think he's just a
Speaker 2: very shallow creature. I'm honestly so surprised that not more
Speaker 2: girls have walked out, Like if that was you, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a weird thing to ask if you were
Speaker 2: in that situation and you were one of the girls,
Speaker 2: would you stay, like, would you wait around and hope
Speaker 2: that Felix pitched you, or would you by this point
Speaker 2: in time be like, this is a real mind fuck.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's it's so hard because you're right at the very
Speaker 3: beginning and you're like, I don't want to No, I've
Speaker 3: just started this marathon, you know, I'm literally moments into it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to then throw my toys out of
Speaker 3: the pram and leave, not knowing what could have been. Obviously,
Speaker 3: it's not looking good at this stage right now. But
Speaker 3: you're like, surely, you're thinking to yourself, I've got to
Speaker 3: give it. It's a little bit of time to see
Speaker 3: if this guy is actually a massive player or not.
Speaker 3: But also at the same time, there is a part
Speaker 3: of me that is thinking, thank goodness that Felix is
Speaker 3: in the mix, because he's making some good TV.
Speaker 2: Finally, one hundred percent, And do you know this is
Speaker 2: the thing. Right For so long, we've all complained about
Speaker 2: how boring The Bachelor is. We've all complained that it's formulaic,
Speaker 2: We've all complained that it's carbon copy. All the things
Speaker 2: I said earlier this, Do I think that this is
Speaker 2: going to save the Batch franchise? Not necessarily. No. I
Speaker 2: think that people are kind of over, you know, just
Speaker 2: they're just over in general.
Speaker 3: But what do I really want to see how this
Speaker 3: plays out with Felix? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that you can dislike people right
Speaker 2: like we You know, I can watch Felix on TV
Speaker 2: and I cannot like the way he's behaving. I cannot
Speaker 2: like him as a person whatever it is, I don't
Speaker 2: know him, But as a character on a show, I
Speaker 2: cannot like that. But I still think it makes for
Speaker 2: really interesting TV. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the other thing that I think is important is that
Speaker 2: as much as we take the piss out of these
Speaker 2: episodes and we have a big laugh about it, it
Speaker 2: also makes you unpack what isn't isn't okay in relationships
Speaker 2: as well. You know, it makes you question, like how
Speaker 2: do I want to be treated?
Speaker 3: What is so? For anyone out there thinking how do
Speaker 3: I behave at a pool party? Little lesson, don't do it.
Speaker 3: Don't do what Felix does.
Speaker 2: Everything Felix does does do the opposite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, young guys out there listening, write this.
Speaker 2: Down three women go home on this episode. No one
Speaker 2: knows who they are, where they come from. I don't
Speaker 2: even think we've seen their faces.
Speaker 3: One had short hair, one was blonde, one of black hair.
Speaker 3: Rest in Peace.
Speaker 2: Episode number three, Well, don't things get spicy in this one?
Speaker 2: The do you know what we do? Okay, so you
Speaker 2: guys understand a bit of the behind the scenes of recording.
Speaker 2: We we record like each episode, we kind of like
Speaker 2: sit down together, we unpack like the episode we record
Speaker 2: episode one, and we take a quick break we record
Speaker 2: episode two.
Speaker 3: And when we say quick break, it's to get more gin.
Speaker 2: So as these episodes progress, we just get slightly more
Speaker 2: tipsy and we're having a fucking great time, but also
Speaker 2: the quality of the unpacking goes rapidly downhill. So I
Speaker 2: asked Matt to make me another gin and he said no, we.
Speaker 3: Were happy to have another one. I don't think you
Speaker 3: need any more.
Speaker 2: He was like, how the fuck are you gonna edit this?
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's that's latest problem. He's like,
Speaker 2: they're not words. I was like, yeah, for later problem.
Speaker 3: But also, who's going to get up in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night you.
Speaker 2: Because I will still be awake editing these Sorry, this
Speaker 2: great episode.
Speaker 3: How dare you know?
Speaker 2: What they say? You can't polish a turd, But the
Speaker 2: truth is you can. You can polish about young cut episode.
Speaker 3: And this is why I didn't give you another gin.
Speaker 3: Listen to how you are talking right now? Episode three.
Speaker 3: You don't know me?
Speaker 2: Okapisode three.
Speaker 3: We've not spoken about Tash. Obviously, she's been there since
Speaker 3: episode one.
Speaker 2: She brought me, but she's not an intruder.
Speaker 3: No, we haven't. We've not mentioned her. We mentioned her
Speaker 3: episode one, she brought dogs to the park. She wanted
Speaker 3: to look up with Felix. Jed rocked up and she
Speaker 3: was like, what the but then was just in it
Speaker 3: to win it with Jed. Yeah, I don't see any
Speaker 3: kind of chemistry with Jed whatsoever.
Speaker 2: So unpacking Tash a little bit, I mean I do
Speaker 2: see the chemistry now, but I feel like she jumped
Speaker 2: from being like, oh, Felix is my perfect type to
Speaker 2: now being like Jed is my They're very, very diff
Speaker 2: different people.
Speaker 3: It literally could have rolled out a fucking log and
Speaker 3: she'd be like, he's great. I love him. I can't
Speaker 3: wait for him to meet my parents. This is going
Speaker 3: to be fantastic.
Speaker 2: And our chemistry is amazing.
Speaker 3: Literally, anybody could have rocked up and she would have
Speaker 3: gone in hook line and sinker.
Speaker 2: Okay, so tash Pool's jedocide because she has some dirt
Speaker 2: on one of the other girls. One of the girls.
Speaker 2: Her name's Jessica. She is Felix's favorite girl. It is
Speaker 2: kind of how she's been framed at this point in time.
Speaker 3: Anyway, looks like Holly, looks like Holly.
Speaker 2: You think she looks like Holly from Jimmy, She's one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised no one's talking about she doesn't look.
Speaker 2: Like Holly at all. She just has blonde hair.
Speaker 3: She looks like Holly. Put a post on Life on
Speaker 3: cart and say is this not holy? And people will
Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, I'm mind blown.
Speaker 2: No, she looks nothing like Holly. She just has blonde hair.
Speaker 2: But the thing that's so interesting about this point in
Speaker 2: this conversation is that Jessica has been framed as being
Speaker 2: this like sweet, wholesome, wholesome, your wife Matia, just like
Speaker 2: the perfect girl that Felix will eventually pick at the
Speaker 2: end once he finishes making out with every single other person.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like where we're getting to. However, Tash
Speaker 2: has some dirty secrets that she has to uncover and
Speaker 2: tell everyone to really throw Jessica under the bars. Basically,
Speaker 2: she's found out that Tash has found out that Jessica
Speaker 2: is in an open, polyamorous relationship with somebody outside of
Speaker 2: the experiment.
Speaker 3: Damien is that his name? His name is Damien. Hey Damien,
Speaker 3: if you're listening right now, either from Townsville. Oh, that's
Speaker 3: as much as I know.
Speaker 2: My dad lives in Townsville. Maybe Terry Byrn can go
Speaker 2: say hello to Damien and Jessica probably not.
Speaker 3: That that Laura Burn was unhelpful was a terrible joke.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to pull you up right now and say,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not even going to fake laugh.
Speaker 2: Oh for that one, how often did you fake laugh?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Tash pulls jedocide to tell Jed that Jessica
Speaker 2: you reckon.
Speaker 3: Anyone knows who the any of these people are? No,
Speaker 3: because Damien said to Tash that jess wasn't there, which
Speaker 3: is why Jed was angry at Felix.
Speaker 2: And Terry Burn is going, Okay, let's try and get on,
Speaker 2: let's try and make sense of this and with you
Speaker 2: and with you.
Speaker 5: So Tasha says to Jed, yep that Jessica, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: go on.
Speaker 2: That Jessica is in a polyamorous relationship with who with
Speaker 2: the guy, and then bump bump bum doom doom. They
Speaker 2: go and they tell Felix. And so the big problem is.
Speaker 3: Is that it's just hang on a second. It doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense because Tash is not even trying to
Speaker 3: get with Felix. She's with Jed.
Speaker 2: But she likes the drama, and so she comes at
Speaker 2: it with the opinion of like, well, I would want
Speaker 2: to know if someone I was dating was in a
Speaker 2: polyamorous relationship. Of course, of course you would want to
Speaker 2: know if someone you're dating's in a polyamorous relationship. However,
Speaker 2: let's get really clear, jess has not made out with Felix.
Speaker 3: Jess has literally, oh, well, hang on a second, that
Speaker 3: we know of.
Speaker 2: She hasn't. We haven't seen it. They've spoken for twenty
Speaker 2: minutes on a speed dating She hasn't had the opportunity
Speaker 2: all the time to actually tell her about her sexuality,
Speaker 2: about her relationship preferences. She hasn't been given that opportunity
Speaker 2: to share something that is very intimate about herself. But
Speaker 2: not only is it very intimate about herself, it's something
Speaker 2: that the wider public deemers being shameful. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Tash has seen it as being a shameful thing. Tash
Speaker 2: sees it as being a very negative thing, and so
Speaker 2: she has decided to take matters into her own hands
Speaker 2: and tell who she knows is gonna tell Felix. However, interestingly, though,
Speaker 2: even though Tash has told everyone about Jess's secret, she
Speaker 2: still thinks, oh, you know what, maybe Jess should be
Speaker 2: the one to tell it herself, but she wants to
Speaker 2: tell you. She wants to have that chat with you,
Speaker 2: So I don't want to take that away from hair.
Speaker 3: Poor old Felix, he doesn't take the news well at all?
Speaker 3: Does He is rattled?
Speaker 2: Considering that Felix is currently in a polyamorous relationship and
Speaker 2: is making out with everybody else. I feel like he
Speaker 2: should be okay with it. What's good for the goose
Speaker 2: should be good for the gander.
Speaker 3: Felix, isn't it rich that he's there being like, how
Speaker 3: dare you? I mean?
Speaker 2: I think? And we do. We see it later on
Speaker 2: as well, because Tash is kind of using people's quote
Speaker 2: unquote weaknesses against them as a way of like pitting
Speaker 2: these people, like pipping them out of the competition, getting
Speaker 2: rid of them.
Speaker 3: But again, it doesn't make any sense because Jess isn't
Speaker 3: competition for her because she's with Jed and Jess's with Felix.
Speaker 3: So what is she fucking doing.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's using it as a way of getting closer
Speaker 2: to Felix. She's like, well, I had this information and
Speaker 2: I felt like I needed to tell you because I
Speaker 2: only want what's best for you and your friend.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I guess it works because she then gets
Speaker 3: a single date.
Speaker 2: She gets a single date, she becomes vulnerable, she's upset
Speaker 2: that everyone's against her, and she gets a single date.
Speaker 3: And also, hang on a second, I guess the relationship
Speaker 3: between Jed and Felix would progress a lot quicker given that,
Speaker 3: you know, then becomes apparent that Jed is like, hey, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm looking out for you. Any information that I get,
Speaker 3: I'm coming straight to you for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the reason why I say that
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bit manipulative is because.
Speaker 3: I hang on, it's very manipulative.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason why I say that is because of
Speaker 2: something that happens a little bit further on in this
Speaker 2: episode as well, which if you watched it you would know,
Speaker 2: but if you didn't, Oh, the suspense is coming. So
Speaker 2: now we progress into the single dates and every like,
Speaker 2: each one of the bachelor's gets to choose someone. Felix
Speaker 2: was supposed to choose Jessica, that's who he wanted to
Speaker 2: have a single date with, but because of the whole
Speaker 2: polyamory conversation, he's decided that he's too rattled. He doesn't
Speaker 2: want to have a singlet with her.
Speaker 3: I did think it was weird that he did that, Like,
Speaker 3: surely he could have just picked somebody else, Right, he's
Speaker 3: got he's got nine or eight other women to choose
Speaker 3: from the other two.
Speaker 2: So Jed goes on a date with Tash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got nothing from that date.
Speaker 2: Also from that so Thomas also chose to go on
Speaker 2: a date with Leah. Now we haven't spoken about Leah yet,
Speaker 2: and she is just the most sweet, divine, like wonderful
Speaker 2: little thing who she's never been in a she's never been.
Speaker 3: In love, even in love.
Speaker 2: But she she said something that I thought was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: She has this fear about being left on the shelf
Speaker 2: and that maybe love is gonna like miss her or
Speaker 2: she's me left out of it, and she seems to
Speaker 2: be really throwing herself into this whole experiment.
Speaker 3: Can I say one thing, yes, my only bit of doubt.
Speaker 3: I do agree everything she's saying is quite beautiful, and
Speaker 3: you know, I think a lot of people can relate,
Speaker 3: myself included. But then at the same time, she has
Speaker 3: been on The Proposal, the Channel seven show where you
Speaker 3: literally meet someone and then by the end you get
Speaker 3: proposed to.
Speaker 2: She was on that one, so you think maybe she's
Speaker 2: a bit of a little reality TV.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do, I do. I think she's saying addict.
Speaker 3: Don't want to sound like I'm being skeptical here, but
Speaker 3: everything she is saying is so perfect. It's coming from
Speaker 3: someone who's been down this path before on reality TV
Speaker 3: or watched a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Bachelor and knows exactly the thing to say.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think she is like beautifully lovable. The
Speaker 2: only thing I was wondering And you were like, can
Speaker 2: go either way? Do you think she's getting the clinger edit?
Speaker 3: Well, you one hundred percent, she definitely is getting the
Speaker 3: clinger edit. But it's it's being done in a way
Speaker 3: which makes her seem so vulnerable and relatable, and I
Speaker 3: think people are really warming to her, which is nice
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the same thing. I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: because she So we haven't spoken about Leah yet, but
Speaker 2: she actually seems to be quite an important player in
Speaker 2: a piece in the puzzle so far, because she's one
Speaker 2: of Thomas's favorite girls.
Speaker 3: Because they literally had a speed date again twenty minutes,
Speaker 3: and off the back of that, she was like, holy crap,
Speaker 3: this guy is amazing. I've never had a date that's
Speaker 3: been as amazing as this. But then at the same time,
Speaker 3: Thomas was also in tears off the back of their
Speaker 3: speed date.
Speaker 2: And she has also cried multiple times. I mean we're talking,
Speaker 2: it's like it's probably day five in all of filming,
Speaker 2: like it's day three, it's the third episode, probably day
Speaker 2: five of filming. And both of them have cried multiple
Speaker 2: times when they've been each other's company. So that's pretty
Speaker 2: reassuring that things are going well.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about their date, the fact that it
Speaker 3: was just just a swing, just a swing hanging there
Speaker 3: from the branch of a tree. I mean, gone to
Speaker 3: the days of single dates being helicopters and super yachts
Speaker 3: and you know Ferraris, it's a swing. It's a swing.
Speaker 3: Budget cuts. That was it.
Speaker 2: No no cheeseboard, not even a cheeseboard. Even if I
Speaker 2: think that Lee is going to be there until the end,
Speaker 2: I think she's going to be maybe not the final,
Speaker 2: but I think she's going to be a very strong player.
Speaker 3: And then it was time for a group date. But hey, look,
Speaker 3: let's be honest. Nothing really happened on this group date.
Speaker 2: I mean they went to Dreamland and jed Dreamland or
Speaker 2: it's a dream world. Oh Dreamland closed down because people
Speaker 2: passed away. That was awful. There was a terrible, terrible
Speaker 2: accident laughing dream World, dream World, great place to visit.
Speaker 3: Highly recommended, Family Pass fifty four five. Be mad not
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 2: After the group date, it was back to another house
Speaker 2: party where some people went home. But the thing about
Speaker 2: this house party, which was also.
Speaker 3: You mean Rose ceremonial.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a house party or was it just Ros?
Speaker 3: I don't reckon that was a house party, to be honest,
Speaker 3: all the episodes are kind of blurring into one right now.
Speaker 2: So much bachel Litte, It's so much content to get
Speaker 2: through that. I don't know who I am. I don't
Speaker 2: even know who's gone home.
Speaker 3: Is there anyone still listening to this episode? Probably not
Speaker 3: for your hand up.
Speaker 2: If you are, send us a message. If if you
Speaker 2: go on to this point in the episode, just send
Speaker 2: us a message and say it was me I got there, because.
Speaker 3: We need some kind of encouragement to come back for
Speaker 3: week terms.
Speaker 2: Trust me, watching all these episodes back to back is
Speaker 2: hard work. And it's now very late in the night anyway. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we go into a rose ceremony. But the thing
Speaker 2: about this rose ceremony, once again the format thrown out
Speaker 2: the window. When you're in a rose ceremony, traditionally you
Speaker 2: are not allowed to speak, so you walk.
Speaker 3: Can't breathe, can't breathe, I have to hold your breath.
Speaker 2: Why everyone faints as as soon.
Speaker 3: As you walk in out like okay, that's it, big breath,
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 2: No, okay, but genuinely, I'm not thanks for clarifying.
Speaker 3: Are allowed to breathe, Row ceremony room.
Speaker 2: But you can't speak. So we would walk into that
Speaker 2: Row ceremony room and Rifka, who is like our producer
Speaker 2: unless she was like that, she was the boss person
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 3: She'd have a cane and she'd whip you for you.
Speaker 2: She was like, don't speak to each other, don't even
Speaker 2: look at each other, look at the front, look pensive,
Speaker 2: look sad. So we all had to stand there and
Speaker 2: look sad, even if we weren't sad, even if we
Speaker 2: were just a bit drunk and all had the giggles.
Speaker 2: We had to stop and do it again and again
Speaker 2: and again and again.
Speaker 3: You're telling me at all those times you had quite
Speaker 3: a somber look on your face, says you were staring
Speaker 3: into my eyes.
Speaker 2: The amount of times they made us re record the
Speaker 2: fucking rose ceremony, tell me, because we were all a
Speaker 2: bit drunk and giggling and they needed us to look sad.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2: It over and over. Okay, So normally you can't speak
Speaker 2: in a rose ceremony. You've got to be really somber
Speaker 2: and pensive because it's very sad. Someone's going home. However,
Speaker 2: the girls kick off and have like a little fisticuffs.
Speaker 2: Jasmine gets upset that Tash has uncovered Jessica's secret and
Speaker 2: told Felix and told Jed. But then things really escalate.
Speaker 3: I thought, just for a second, I thought it was
Speaker 3: very very rude that in a group setting, like Osha
Speaker 3: was kind of saying like, hey, you know you had
Speaker 3: a single day, good on you, and Tasha's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm someone who I think has the attributes
Speaker 3: of what it takes to be in a relationship with Jed.
Speaker 3: Osha says, what do you think it is? And she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm honest, unlike jess over here who's got a boyfriend
Speaker 3: and just tries to call her out in front of everybody.
Speaker 2: But the thing that I so so, the thing I
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier where I was like, I think that Tasha's
Speaker 2: behavior was like weaponized manipulation is because so she added
Speaker 2: Jessica and the fact that she's in a polyamorous relationship.
Speaker 2: But then in the same episode, she also outed the
Speaker 2: fact that Jasmine, who is the girl that she was
Speaker 2: having a bit of a fight with at the Row ceremony,
Speaker 2: she outed that Jasmine had an OnlyFans account. Now we
Speaker 2: saw this play out on Maths, We're going to see
Speaker 2: it playing out again on Bachelor. Nothing good comes from
Speaker 2: shaming someone who has an only fans acount. Nothing good
Speaker 2: comes from making someone feel shameful for living their life
Speaker 2: in the way that they choose to live their life.
Speaker 2: And the other thing about this that I think is
Speaker 2: like really quite important is that because Tash thinks that
Speaker 2: this is something that Jasmine should feel embarrassed by, she's
Speaker 2: using it as a weapon to try and make other
Speaker 2: people not like her. And by other people, I mean Jed.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, if Jed finds out that Jasmine has
Speaker 2: an only fans account, he won't like her, And that,
Speaker 2: to me is a reflection of Tash. It's absolutely not
Speaker 2: a reflection of Jasmine, the girl who has the only
Speaker 2: fans account.
Speaker 3: It was disgusting behavior. Can I just say loved Love Love,
Speaker 3: Love of Love?
Speaker 2: Crystal the Voice of Reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they go from Essex. She was there like absolutely not.
Speaker 3: This is shit. I'm going to call it out. I'm
Speaker 3: going to defend it. Obviously. It gets a little bit
Speaker 3: messy when people are kind of because in the row
Speaker 3: ceremony rooms there's like the three clusters of girls, so
Speaker 3: they kind of like at each other from across the room.
Speaker 2: But also, are we not at a time like I mean,
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty three, is it twenty twenty three? Who
Speaker 2: fucking knows it's twenty twenty three. We have seen this
Speaker 2: storyline play out on many reality TV shows now, Like
Speaker 2: how can somebody like Tash not have watched last season
Speaker 2: of MAVs and know that nothing good is going to
Speaker 2: come out of it for her by by trying to
Speaker 2: shame someone for having an OnlyFans account? Like why is
Speaker 2: this still something that is like, yeah, well, you know
Speaker 2: you're less than me because you do this, And I
Speaker 2: think that that's a really massive problem and this is
Speaker 2: going to come back and absolutely bite Attashed in the house.
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for her. I really think that she's Tash. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do, because I think, deep down, I think she
Speaker 3: probably has a lot of insecurities, and you know, I
Speaker 3: think the wrath that she's going to feel right now
Speaker 3: from the viewers of this show, I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I just hope that she's strong enough to come out
Speaker 3: the other end and also be aware of what her
Speaker 3: actions were like and how disrespectful they were, and how
Speaker 3: she needs to have a lot more empathy.
Speaker 2: I think that that's a really important way that we
Speaker 2: can kind of head towards wrapping this episode, is that
Speaker 2: all the things that we talk about All the things
Speaker 2: that we unpack on this are purely based on the
Speaker 2: stuff that we've seen on the show, all that we've
Speaker 2: experienced ourselves because we've done the show. But obviously we
Speaker 2: all need to be super aware that editing plays a
Speaker 2: huge part in this. That these people who are on
Speaker 2: these shows are humans, They're not characters. Everybody makes mistakes,
Speaker 2: they say things that they shouldn't say in these environments.
Speaker 2: Am I saying that that gives someone the grace of
Speaker 2: just being able to be a terrible human? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: But there's so many more layers to it. And I
Speaker 2: think that most people are aware of that now because
Speaker 2: we all understand the nature of how reality TV works.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think, like, be gentle,
Speaker 2: don't go and fucking bully people online. Be conscious about
Speaker 2: the things that you're saying, whether it's your commenting on
Speaker 2: a post or you're adding to the conversation. Is what
Speaker 2: you're adding just being nasty or is it adding to
Speaker 2: the actual like unpacking of what's happening on the show.
Speaker 2: That's a big question, and they think we wanted to
Speaker 2: ask ourselves.
Speaker 3: Laura Burn that was very well said from someone who's
Speaker 3: had twelve gins goodness me, how you're still being articulate.
Speaker 3: I'll never know put it.
Speaker 2: On at my tombstone, but I feel like that is
Speaker 2: you've got your hand. I was going to say, we're
Speaker 2: wrapping the episode.
Speaker 3: I am. Can I just say, just really really quickly
Speaker 3: shout out to Abby Emma and I can't remember if
Speaker 3: it was Pallen, Callen or Fallon. She went home.
Speaker 2: Oh, we had three more people who left who nobody
Speaker 2: knew who they were, but we never knew you.
Speaker 3: I did enjoy it. Just for the record, I know
Speaker 3: that it was different. People are saying it's a hot mess.
Speaker 3: One key reason why I did really enjoy the first
Speaker 3: three episodes is that every season that I've watched previously,
Speaker 3: after our season, I've always been able to guess it.
Speaker 3: I've always been able to guess who was going to
Speaker 3: end up with the Bachelor or Bachelor.
Speaker 2: I have no fucking idea, no.
Speaker 3: Idea, And that's great, That's exactly what I wanted. I
Speaker 3: think that overall, I'm still coming to terms with the
Speaker 3: new format, but I'm into it. I like it.
Speaker 2: As a man who doesn't like change.
Speaker 3: I'm episode three, episode two, I wasn't sure Episode three.
Speaker 3: I'm into it. Also, when they were teasing what happens
Speaker 3: in episode four and five, there's a lot of drama.
Speaker 3: I'm into it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I watched episode one and I was like, this is
Speaker 2: a shit show. I cannot believe we have to watch
Speaker 2: so many episodes now that we've committed to doing bat
Speaker 2: Chun Kat. I watched episode two and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: there's a lot happening here. I have feelings this is
Speaker 2: qunjuring up some stuff. And then I watched episode three
Speaker 2: and I was like, I think I enjoy this, and
Speaker 2: I feel weird about it and conflicted, but I'm I'm
Speaker 2: fucking I am strapped in.
Speaker 3: It's a bit like anal sex right.
Speaker 2: Hey, the third time is always a charm. Anyway, guys,
Speaker 2: that is it from us. It has been a long
Speaker 2: time between drinks. I say that because it's been a
Speaker 2: long time since we've had a Life Uncut episode. Come
Speaker 2: into your libraries, Matty Jay. I love making these.
Speaker 3: Episodes with you and I love them too.
Speaker 2: Laura Byrne, thank you the end.
Speaker 3: Good luck editing this. I'll see you in bed.
Speaker 2: Okay. Anyway, you know the drill. Guys, Tell your mom,
Speaker 2: tell your dad, tell your friends and your dog, and I,
Speaker 2: though I always forget it, brid it always says it
Speaker 2: shad alaw because we love love