WEBVTT - Elizabeth Smart 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.000 On a quiet June night in two thousand and two 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.560 in an affluent suburb of Salt Lake City, settled into 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:12.920 the ordinary rituals asleep, lights, dimmed, doors locked, the regular 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.960 traditions of a family turning in for the night, fourteen 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.040 year old Elizabeth Smart opened her eyes to see a 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.800 man standing in her room that she shared with her sister. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.720 The man was not a stranger. In fact, he knew 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.959 exactly where he was going. Elizabeth's sister went to their 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.040 parents to tell them that a man had taken Elizabeth. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.239 What followed would become one of the most harrowing and 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:44.520 closely watched kidnapping cases in modern American history. This, Georgia Love, 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.400 is a harrowing case of Elizabeth Smart. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.960 I've seen that there's a docor on Netflix about this, 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:50.800 and I haven't watched. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:01:18.199 As Oh great, Okay, you are in for an absolute doozy. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.960 Hey there, everybody, Welcome to Not Now the Crime Podcast. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.759 I'm Georgia Love, I'm Sammy Peterson, I'm a journalist. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.399 I am not. But tell you what, if you want 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.760 to skip ahead and just listen to the story, the 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.840 time codes are in the show notes, and I'll tell 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.080 you another little thing. We are recording a spontaneous podcast today. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.280 Well, yes, for the listeners, it's not spot Regularity's good 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:49.600 for you. Yeah, correct, Because I'm very bad at keeping 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.480 my calendar and i'm particularly abaud it. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.160 As you showed me before, you're going to five in May. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.320 You're going to had a memory that I might be 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.360 going to see five, So I searched the word in 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.120 my calendar, and I am going. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.280 The band, not just find things. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.160 Yeah, we'll probably going to five things the same day 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.760 because I forgot I was going there, and I don't 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.880 know who I'm going with anyway. So if you're listening 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:12.880 to this and I'm going with. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.640 You, just let me know. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.559 Alex comment below you please comment below. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.960 Like comment subscribe to let me know where I'm going. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.280 But yeah, I'm I'm really bad at putting things in 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.840 my diary if they' booked really far in advance. But 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.600 somehow there's a musical I'm going to that I put 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.680 in twice on two different dates, so I thought I 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.600 was going to it tonight. Turns out I'm not not 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.359 going for two weeks. So I had a spontaneous night off. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.919 You didn't you had a gig. I had a gig, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.960 but you got home at nine pm and said, why 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.120 don't you come on over? 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.360 When you come on dawn over, we'll record a podcast 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.840 episode because I've written a couple of episodes with cases 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.800 that I've seen recently that I've been really just really 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.799 kind of mesmerized by. And I will say before how 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:04.000 I mispronounced mesmerized. Was nothing on the intro which you 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.080 didn't hear. Maybe I'll put it in here, but I 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.320 couldn't pronounce Elizabeth. I think I said this Georgia Love 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:17.040 is the harrowing case of Elizabeth. So I'll play that here, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.720 so you know, the blue Puff, some of the hilarious 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.160 that we take out of the podcast, the gig tonights 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.359 and then and then let's record a good book. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.360 Hey, how was the gig fine? 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.840 Okay, it wasn't amazing. It was just that there's a 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.840 there's a certain thing I think in when I stopped 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.680 doing stand up for six years, and then when I 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.480 came back, I went, if I ever feel that aren't 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.720 fit for stage again, it is the scariest thing to do. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.280 So I promised myself that I would just do one 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.840 gig a week and I would always kind of keep 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.480 up that fitness. It's like exercise if you just kind 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.120 of keep moving and do something, you work that muscle 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.280 and you're not worried at all, Like someone calls out, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.400 I like crowded work with that. Yeah, but it's like 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.960 but first going back into it was terrifying, and so 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.400 I was like, I'll just do it once a week. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.360 And so someone offered me these two gigs unpaid. Two gigs. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.800 I've got a parking ticket, unpaid. Two gigs are in Collingwood. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.039 It's a great little place. It's an absolute bunker of 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.280 a place, like it's down two flights well down two 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.039 flights of stairs, but it kind of feels like an 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.560 American like I imagine an America. I haven't been to America, 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.960 but I imagine like a New York club. And so 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.920 you walk down these two flights of stairs and it's 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.520 like this little bun up and it's just it's always 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.320 like backpackers there. It's really interesting because I think it 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.960 kind of feels like a cool like different comedy club 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.240 or a comedy club that they used to and it 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:48.200 was so funny because it wasn't huge. But I always 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.440 if I can, I'll go and watch all the comedians 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.640 on before me, but none of the other comedians did that. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.279 So all of them asked where the front row were from, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.279 and they were all from England. And halfway through the 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.839 third guy, I wanted to go they're all from the UK. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.560 Yeah, and just listen to the people just it was. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.039 Pretty embarrassing actually for not that many people there, but yeah, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:09.720 it was. It was fun. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.240 Did you make a joke about that when you went 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:11.560 on them? 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.400 Yeah? I did, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just kept 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.920 saying with my friends from Brazil and they laughed at yeah, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.560 and that show baby, the old Razzle Dazzle. That's right. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.640 Well, I want to go back to New York this year. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:26.680 I mean. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.160 That's the end of the sentence anyway. But they announced 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.160 today that the new cast of Little Shop of Horrors, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.640 which is one of our fates. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:37.320 That's so good. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.320 Andy Carl, who is a Broadway legend but is also 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.800 performed in two shows right here in Little Old Australia, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:49.719 Groundhog Day and Beetlejuice, and he has been cast as 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.680 the dentist in Little Shop of Horrors. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.160 He's born to play that role. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.200 We watched the movie recently and watching it we were 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.800 like Andy Cole needs to play this. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.840 Yeah, yeah, he's got the comic timing and also like 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.920 he just he just looks like that kind of character 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.159 with a leather jacket. I can just see him do it. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.880 It's so cool. Like not because he's a monster dentist, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.680 I will say that. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.120 I don't think he's even a dentist at all. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.560 Oh really, not even qualified. And you can play the role. Yes, interesting, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.599 I guess the plant might not even be a real plant. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:17.920 Do you know who's playing Audrey too? 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:20.520 Audrey two is a plant. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.000 Ah, they're getting a real plant for it. A fern lady. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.200 How exciting, a beautiful lady fern. But that's so fun. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.280 So you're planning on going back to New York just 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.359 to see Andy Carl. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.279 That's the excuse. There's never it's not ever just for 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.320 one thing. But that's going to be the excuse. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.800 Can I say this? Because we went to go and 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:45.240 see Beetlejuice the Musical when Eddie Perfect was on and 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.320 Andy Carl was in the audience watching, Yes, and you 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.160 introduced me to Andy Carl and he couldn't have me 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.119 like been more down to worth and nice. So I thought, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.880 like kind of I don't know. There's something about like 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.839 an American star where he's usually Broadway star, where you're like, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.600 or they might be a bit intense or a bit 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.800 like or maybe he just kind of wants to just 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.839 talk to the famous people in the room or something. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.720 It was so lovely, like a really down to worth 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:09.240 nice guy. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:10.880 And then we saw him again at Tim Minchin. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:15.920 Yeah remember, Yeah, of course I had a good chat then. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.440 Like, it will never not blow my mind that a 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.600 Broadway star, yes, has just chats to me. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.680 Yeah, I know. Actually thought Meryl Streek did that as well. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:29.400 She does the famous musical Meryl Straight movie. Yeah, that's 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.440 good improv. Don't worry about it. It might be late, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.160 but we're firing at all cylinders. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.640 I think we're doing really well. I think we're going 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.840 to keep doing really well. We've got our jams. And 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.200 one of my friends who listens to the pod said 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.440 to me today, sometimes I can tell when you're drinking 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.120 jams because I can hear when you because I can't 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.440 hear the burp, but I can hear mid sentence when 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.760 you kind of go like stop a bit. I was like, well, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.240 it's actually carbonated drink. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.800 It's actually carbinated drink. But yeah, so this this documentary 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.440 rights so Elizabeth Smart documentary which which I just are 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.000 watch recently, I've been so I don't know what it is, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.440 but I think the Lucy let Be documentary has just 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.640 come out, and the Elizabeth Smart one. Elizabeth Smart was 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.920 not someone And we always talk about this that we 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:17.000 don't know all the crimes. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.240 We can't know all the crimes, but we will after 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.320 a few more years of this podleam. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.920 Yeah, yeah, asolutely. But this story in particular was something 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.440 that I was surprised not to know about. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.720 I don't know about it either. Yeah, And my friend Frannye, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.040 who's obsessed with true crime, said like message me the 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.160 other day, going, I'm watching the Elizabeth Smart documentary, but 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.200 I'm not loving it. I think I just know the 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.439 case too. Well, Yes, that's interesting, so it must Oh god, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.920 this is going to be one of those embarrassing ones 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.079 we say we don't know it. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.560 That's the thing, though, There's so many different crimes that 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.400 I think you and I have been fascinated with over 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.480 the years, and you know, like when you did Peter 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.360 Do Pass and the Joe Chinqua episode. For me, it's 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.480 like it's you have these episodes that you go, I'll 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.000 do that one because I know about that one. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.000 Something there just stick in your mind, stick in. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.960 Your mind, and everyone has one of those, and I 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.840 kind of think when when we go through this story, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.880 Elizabeth Smart is definitely one of those. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.680 For a lot of well, one of the stories that 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.160 we've done before. There's actually been an update on Oh wow, okay, yes, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.400 so it was. The episode was titled The wood Chipper. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.120 Oh yes, of course. Yeah. So a man well very 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.720 excited on that episode because you just got back from 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.719 New York City. Were chit chatting away and look, we 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.080 got lots of complaints on an episode about how chit 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.240 chatty you are. It's fine, go back. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:40.880 And so a man named this is This is an 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:46.960 Australian Bruce Saunders was murdered by his here we go. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.200 He was in a love triangle. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.640 It was in a love triangle. He didn't particularly know 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.840 that he was his fiance and slash kind of x. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.040 She says they had split up. She was string him along. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.560 Her name is Sharon and she was with another man 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:07.640 called Gregory Rosa. Gregory Rosa and his friend murdered Bruce 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.240 and put his body through a wood chipper to make 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.720 it look like it had been a terrible industrial accident, such. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.480 A brutal and horrifying death. Yeah, awful. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.240 Well. Gregory Rosa was sentenced to life in prison, but 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:27.120 appealed the sentence. Oh actually, sorry, appealed the conviction. The 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.040 appealed grounds were that his lawyers. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.280 Argued that he didn't want to go to jail. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.760 Yes, exactly, So he and Sharon were tried separately, and 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.560 his argument was that they shouldn't have been tried separately 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.720 because then that impact negatively impacted his trial because Sharon 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:46.960 had been found guilty. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.520 Take the heater. Ah right, okay, And just this. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.240 Week at the time of recording, the appeals court went, nah, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.200 so he's officially going to spend life in prison. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.480 Oh and good yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.480 that's really interesting. And also the Philip Island murder, there's 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:07.880 been no real update. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:12.120 There on has been an update, there's no final answer. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.520 The update is and so if you haven't heard, when 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.920 we discussed this before, a skull and vertebrae were found 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.520 in the backyard in Philip Island. Yes, yeah, that we 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.160 got very excited that that might be the body or 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.120 the remains of Vivian Cameron. That episode is called the 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.160 Philip Island Murder if you want to go back and 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:40.280 listen to that. Police have said that the forensic testing 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.160 on the remains is still ongoing, but they do not 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:51.240 believe it's linked to quote any active missing persons cases. Yes, yeah, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.680 which is interesting. You know what I've been thinking about 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.480 it since? Is Vivian Cameron an active missing person's case? 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.840 Because it didn't, haven't they ruled that? Yeah, I guess 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.600 she's not suicide. Yeah, Oh my god, I've just realized this. Yeah, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.239 maybe that's interesting. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.240 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like they Yeah, I 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.280 feel like they didn't stop anyone from talking about it. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.880 I don't know, can't get we can't get too into 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.440 this because who knows, but it would be really interesting. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.559 We have to have Vicki Patritis on to talk about it, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.760 who wrote the book with Paul Delaney, The Philippilo Murderers, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.360 has called that and it's fascinating and I've had a 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.360 few conversations with Vicky there in the last few weeks. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.280 There's been another thing in the news today. So we 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.840 haven't discussed this before because it hasn't been considered a 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:33.840 crime yet. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:34.320 Yeah. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.719 A four year old boy in South Australia called Gus 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.920 Lamont went missing back in September. He was at a 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:46.439 family like a rural property of sheep farm with family 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.679 members and he wandered off and went missing. There's been 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.760 extensive searchers and no trace of him has been found 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.959 at all. Just today. So that was in September. Now 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.000 in January, police have revealed that they do believe there 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.520 was foul play. Oh wow, and that the owner of 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.800 that property is their one and only suspect. Now it's 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.800 not the parents. They're very very very parents that they 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.760 had no involvement, but a family member is their one 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:15.720 and only suspects. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.440 Oh my god. Okay, that's so fascinating. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.880 When we find it, When or if we find out 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.920 more about that, we will be updated. But I just 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.800 thought if anyone, you know, our listeners have known that 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.160 from the news or anything, that was a big story 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.000 today because they were really adamant earlier saying it's not 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.240 any foul play, but today they've said yes, Oh my god. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.680 And sorry, I'm just going to stop because as we're 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.080 as we're doing this, we've had a speak pipe come 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.120 through from someone we know, and also I wanted to 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.600 do this before we actually really get into the podcast 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.200 today because we always do mailbag at the end. I 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.199 think that's I think that's great, but I just want 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.840 to kind of read a couple of things just quickly 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.920 because I really really kind of love this that came 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.320 in from someone called Wilm that came in late today 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.400 and I just wanted to read this. Hi, Sammy and Georgia. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.760 After recently discovering your podcast from the Epsamy did on 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.520 Miss New Body, I can confirm I am obsessed. Much 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.199 like Miss Previous bang on. It feels like I'm having 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.920 a veno with my mates. Your friendship is electric and 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.480 brings such lightness to heavy topics. I just listened to 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.360 your Joe Chinkway episode. Being from Canberra, I was drawn 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.560 to it immediately to provide a take on the title 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.880 of Helen Ghana's book, which was Joe Chinway's Consolation. I 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.360 think Joe's Consolation is the book itself. With all the 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.840 media focus on a new in a state of mind, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.760 the book sheds light on Joe and his family and 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.240 ensures he's known and not forgotten. And I absolutely love that. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.360 I love that as a small consolation in a senseless act. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.480 Thanks for giving me something new to obsess over. Vilma. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.480 I love Vilma as a name. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:56.920 So that's a beautiful name. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.920 Yeah, I want to say the last name, but we're 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.320 beautiful full name. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.680 not saying that people don't have full names, but don't 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:08.920 don't know me for that. Actually, you're right. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.680 Before youve doesn't God? 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.800 You all right? Well? Because this person we just spoke about, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.600 so I thought it'd be really funny that they've actually 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.400 sent in a speak pipe an hour ago. This is 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.080 someone that you know very well. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:28.200 Hello, Sammy and Georgia. It's Alex friend here, long time listener, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.400 first time call up. We've up the great work. I 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:35.000 love listening to your two episodes each week, usually when 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.560 i'm writing to work or from work, or out in 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.720 the garden when i'm doing some watering like i'm doing 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.840 right now. I just finished listening to an episode and 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.800 your poor dry peeved to which are where you complained 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.080 about not being able to complete an electronic declaration that 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.160 you have to use the pen and paper. Yes, I've 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.840 got some good news for you. Recently came back from 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.200 an overseas trip in Paloo and was pleased to see 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.960 on the Quantus app I could complete a custom was declaration. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.200 You then take a screenshot of it and then use 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:09.400 that when you coming back through customs. So something you 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.600 probably weren't aware of and you'll be excited to be 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.560 able to use when your next travel speak to you. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.360 Oh my god, Alex, I love you. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:19.200 Isn't that great? 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.080 Leave another speak pipe and let me know if I'm 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:21.760 going to five? 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.240 Did you? Can you let me know my plans over 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.240 the next few weeks. I want to say as well 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.240 before we get into it, because also if you want 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.760 to leave a beautiful speak pipe for us a voicemail, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.960 we would absolutely love that. The link is below to 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.120 do that, or you can write in like Filmer did 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.280 to Semi at just another company, dot com, dot you. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.080 We will do the mail bag at the end. But 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.680 I thought that was fun to do those at the front. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.440 I'm my god, that's great. How funny that I brought 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.080 up Alex, And I also love that he didn't just 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:48.680 text me that. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.520 Well, No, I thought I thought that was funny because 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.680 I thought because we had to reschedule dinner with him 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.800 next week, I've texted him to I thought it might 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.160 have been a message about that anyway. So Alex is 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.680 a beautiful friend of yours. Yes, and Alex, I've never 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.000 really hung out with one on one before until until 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.840 Alex came over here to check out my new place 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.800 and was so lovely and supportive about it. He brought 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.160 Digs a Christmas gift and like me, a housewarming gift, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.639 and it was just so nice. And Alex is just 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.000 one of those people that you're just like you immediately 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.960 just like them, You just like you're drawn to them. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.240 He's beautiful, He's so funny as well, and just like 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:29.840 the loveliest person around. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.920 Can I tell a great Alex story? So I had 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.800 news Eve at his house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.080 was talking to one of his friends who we were 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.440 talking about Halloween. And his friend is a gay guy 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.159 and I was talking to him about Halloween, said what 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.280 did you dress up as? And then I showed him 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.359 a picture of my costume and I didn't say what 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.320 it was. I just showed him the picture, yes, and 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:53.520 he didn't know what it was. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.879 And I dressed up as Rankenstein. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.920 No, that was h I'm so sorry I dressed up 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:04.720 as Nicole Sheer as normal Desmond in the Broadway remake 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.960 of Sunset Boulevard, so very niche. But I thought, you 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.920 know audience. Yeah, he didn't know, and I went, oh no, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.520 I'm so disappointed. And he said, whose party was it? 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.440 And I named the friends whose party was who were 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.560 who were all gay guys, very like kind of big 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.600 in the Melbourne scene. Do you know drag shows? And 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.840 I was like, you know, listing off the names and 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:34.000 I said, you know, you know not No Thomas Jasper, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.800 It's no calm now. No, do you know dog Crazy? No? Well, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.760 I was like, oh, Granny Bingo, you know Granny Bingo? 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.960 And He's like no, And I said, oh, you and 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.879 I moving different, very different gay circles. And Alex was 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.199 walking past and heard just that sentence and stopped and 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.239 said to me, gee, how many times do I have 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.120 to tell you you're not a gay? 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:59.680 Man's so funny? He showed me some of the funniest 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.840 video that night as well. 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.000 Yeah, I had a little MENTI bee. Well, I had 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.240 a huge, big mentib that day during the afternoon and 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.320 then went to his house that night and was just 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.399 a little bit a lot of bit drained from my 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:18.159 big MENTIB and it was only maybe quarter past midnight, 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:19.360 and I was like, you know what, I think I'll 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.560 go home. My friend was driving, and so I was like, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.840 I'll go with her and Alex's partner, my other very 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.320 good friend, Eugene said no. I was like no, no, no, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:28.639 don't go. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:28.879 Oh no. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.440 So Alex was saying, don't go, don't go, and Eugene disappeared, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.560 and I started packing up my stuff and Eugene had 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.840 left to put on the Chicago soundtrack, knowing exactly what, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.560 and so Eugene and I performed like full blown, performed 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.920 four different numbers from Chicago, and my friends would taking 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.520 like videoing me saying she was literally leaving two minutes 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.000 ago and was on the couch having a full blown 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.480 anxiety attack three hours ago. 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.040 Well, what I love about it as well is you 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.280 get quite angry in all of the videos when people 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.640 aren't doing the white choreography. He sits in your head. Yep. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.719 Well, because my best friend Arbor, he and I have 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.919 we've known each other for so long, our brains have 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.920 like SYNCD up, So there have been multiple times that 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.200 we've been and again like that, performing for our friends 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.680 and we'll just look at each other and know exactly 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.359 what we're going to do next. And we've done like 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.919 lifts and dips and stuff without ever practicing them or 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.919 discussing them. So I thought that Eugene would be the same. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:28.960